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post #4381 of 8097
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Originally Posted by mrjktcvs View Post

Never mind, I fixed it by turning off the auto-update of the firmware. I'm in this forum often enough to read when the next one occurs.

This is not working for me. I am having the same issue. I updated to the latest rev, but every time I turn on the TV it says a new update has been found and I click OK. On the Home screen in the premium apps area it continuously is circling with the downloading progress message. I have turned the autoupdate check to off, but this is not helping with the situation.

The only thing I have left to try is unplugging the TV so that it has to do a full reboot. However; I really don't want to do this as then I have to go through and adjust all the settings again.

Any ideas?
post #4382 of 8097
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Originally Posted by HDUDE View Post

This is not working for me. I am having the same issue. I updated to the latest rev, but every time I turn on the TV it says a new update has been found and I click OK. On the Home screen in the premium apps area it continuously is circling with the downloading progress message. I have turned the autoupdate check to off, but this is not helping with the situation.

The only thing I have left to try is unplugging the TV so that it has to do a full reboot. However; I really don't want to do this as then I have to go through and adjust all the settings again.

Any ideas?

Same boat here. Would love a solution other than resetting everything.
post #4383 of 8097
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Originally Posted by GLAbel35 View Post

Has anyone gotten ARC to work on this TV with a denon 791/1911? I've tried everything I can think of and can't seem to find much documentation on the subject. I set ARC mode on LG 55LW5600 to on as well as simplink. I should note that even with simplik on all the options are greyed out. My Denon AVR 1911 is set to the TV input and has HDMI control set to on. I had no luck with my "non-ethernet" HDMI cable so I bought one "with ethernet" from Amazon (media bridge part # 91-02X-15B) and I still can't get it to work. FTR, I'm not really buying this ethernet option since so many have posted using ARC with "non-ethernet" cables and I haven't seen conclusively that there is an addition pin for ethernet. But I'm not overly educated on the subject and I'm sick of screwing with this so I'm HOPING that someone else out there has some info that can help me start elimiating variables..... Any help is appreciated. Thanks also for all the other great info I've been getting from this thread!


I don't have a denon AVR but i did have a system that support ARC. In order for ARC to work, both system needs to have ARC enable. Did you enable ARC on your Denon AVR? HDMI control is not the same as ARC. Check again and make sure you enabled ARC on your Denon.
post #4384 of 8097
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Originally Posted by turbobuick86 View Post

slickkeng = skyguy3d? :d

yes...who the f thanks theirself?
post #4385 of 8097
After updating the firmware, I also had a longer than normal "software Download progess spinning wheel" it took about 3 minutes. But after that all is good. So perhaps just let is load for a couple of minutes.



If you don't want to do the soft reset or hard reset there's another option you can try.

>menu>setup>network setting > smart tv setting >setting >Reset
"Delete all IDs added and applications installed on the TV. Please be aware
that all your paid applications may be deleted."
post #4386 of 8097
I work for a major cable network (several actually) in both media prep and master control and I can tell you it is normal to see some shows or commercials in 4x3 (with black pillar box, or side bars) and some fullscreen 16x9. Worst is letterboxed video in 4X3, where you get bars on top, bottom and sides but again that is normal.

Unlike other channels that will arbitrarily stretch 4x3 video to make everything they broadcast fullscreen, we are very meticulous about maintaining the correct aspect ratio for the home viewer. Unfortunately this means it is constantly changing because our media comes from many different sources.

Some of our programs are still upconverted 4x3 SD shows that will have black side bars, though most of the new shows we get are now produced in true HD 16x9.

Same with commercials and promos...they come from many different sources and can be either 4x3 upconverts or 16x9 HD.

The point is that if a channel is broadcasting proper aspect ratios, you will probably see it change all the time, from program to commercial and possibly even within a commercial break. At least until the day when EVERYTHING is produced in 16x9 and the old stuff is purged.

This is all assuming that your local provider is not tweaking anything downstream from us.

Also, the correct setting for your television is 16x9 or Just Scan. I can't stand it when I see displays set to "zoom" or whatever just so that 4x3 content will fill the screen. Looks horrible. You're supposed to see those black bars on the side!

On a related note, since our material does come from lots of different places...various post houses and production companies...the audio/video levels and quality can be all over the place. We try to make them as consistant as possible, but you will still see variation. That's why I think it's never a great idea to evaluate or calibrate a television with broadcast material.
post #4387 of 8097
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Originally Posted by Black Maiden View Post

Darn, so only stereo out from the TV's optical port? So even Netflix/Vudu movies thru the TV's apps will only be stereo regardless if the stream offers surround sound? Bummer.

As for the speakers, they're ok. They'll never live up to even a basic, cheap dedicated sound system. No bass whatsoever. Also the volume is wonky. I have to constantly ride the volume while watching movies. Dialog will be quite so I have to turn it up to hear anything, then when the action starts I gotta turn it down. I know about auto leveling etc, but even a decent soundbar will be much better.

I watehed a VUDU 3d movie and it was in digital surround.. my received switched to digital..
post #4388 of 8097
having problems here....... main menu kept saying new firmware updated. New firmware somehow also made my ps3 to not reconize any of 3d movies or games. . Tried to play Shrek 3d and it only plays as 2d with just 2d-3d convert option and same for COD black op. Killzone3 says no 3d TV detected.. Anyone having same issues?? Please help.
post #4389 of 8097
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Originally Posted by sonagi1972 View Post

having problems here....... main menu kept saying new firmware updated. New firmware somehow also made my ps3 to not reconize any of 3d movies or games. . Tried to play Shrek 3d and it only plays as 2d with just 2d-3d convert option and same for COD black op. Killzone3 says no 3d TV detected.. Anyone having same issues?? Please help.

did you go to your PS3 setting and redetect your tv after your new firmware?
post #4390 of 8097
Just noticed a blue "cube" on the 3D depth setting. Any ideas what that is?
post #4391 of 8097
how do you guys fix the Sportscenter bottom ticker, where the letters look to be moving and jitter as they scroll by?
post #4392 of 8097
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Originally Posted by scb175 View Post

how do you guys fix the Sportscenter bottom ticker, where the letters look to be moving and jitter as they scroll by?

Trumotion should fix that but we all know how much people like that.
post #4393 of 8097
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Originally Posted by tyga View Post

Trumotion should fix that but we all know how much people like that.

Yah, i have Trumotion set to "low" and it still does it. I am not sure what to think about trumotion in general. I like the picture, but when the camera moves, it really bothers me a lot. Seems like i'm in some warped world.
post #4394 of 8097
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Originally Posted by Danosaurus View Post

I work for a major cable network (several actually) in both media prep and master control and I can tell you it is normal to see some shows or commercials in 4x3 (with black pillar box, or side bars) and some fullscreen 16x9. Worst is letterboxed video in 4X3, where you get bars on top, bottom and sides but again that is normal.

Unlike other channels that will arbitrarily stretch 4x3 video to make everything they broadcast fullscreen, we are very meticulous about maintaining the correct aspect ratio for the home viewer. Unfortunately this means it is constantly changing because our media comes from many different sources.

Some of our programs are still upconverted 4x3 SD shows that will have black side bars, though most of the new shows we get are now produced in true HD 16x9.

Same with commercials and promos...they come from many different sources and can be either 4x3 upconverts or 16x9 HD.

The point is that if a channel is broadcasting proper aspect ratios, you will probably see it change all the time, from program to commercial and possibly even within a commercial break. At least until the day when EVERYTHING is produced in 16x9 and the old stuff is purged.

This is all assuming that your local provider is not tweaking anything downstream from us.

Also, the correct setting for your television is 16x9 or Just Scan. I can't stand it when I see displays set to "zoom" or whatever just so that 4x3 content will fill the screen. Looks horrible. You're supposed to see those black bars on the side!

On a related note, since our material does come from lots of different places...various post houses and production companies...the audio/video levels and quality can be all over the place. We try to make them as consistant as possible, but you will still see variation. That's why I think it's never a great idea to evaluate or calibrate a television with broadcast material.

Good post, it confirms what I suspected. I never use the stretch to fit options but have to admit I often pass on shows that are not HD.
post #4395 of 8097
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Originally Posted by Elevatorman#9 View Post

yes...who the f thanks theirself?

someone like you probably.
post #4396 of 8097
I don't know if I am just missing something by having the tv in standard since I coudld never get calibration remotely better for me. But at least in standard I don't see the great PQ people say the gtv has. Assuming it's not the fact that the tv is 55 inches causing it I would have to return it solely because I am more impressed with my 4-5 year old tv in PQ at this point and I feel like why buy a tv if it doesn't improve onw hat I have? The 3D is nice, but so far I was not impressed with 2D in a blu ray I watched. Also I had to constantly turn up and down the volume during a blu ray which I don't know if it's the fault of the blu ray, the player, or the tv without AV equipment hooked up. And I ahve a feeling the Sonys will be too reflective so I'm just screwed.
post #4397 of 8097
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Originally Posted by midnight77 View Post

Assuming it's not the fact that the tv is 55 inches causing it I would have to return it solely because I am more impressed with my 4-5 year old tv in PQ at this point and I feel like why buy a tv if it doesn't improve onw hat I have?

If you like your old tv better, then you should quit torturing yourself, return the LG, and set up your old set again. If you're not satisfied with your purchase, then there is no reason to try to force yourself to like it. You can use the refunded $$$$ for something else. If I were in your shoes that is what I would do.

Personally, I love my LG (it replaced a 50" Samsung plasma...which I still have and love). But each individuals experience and preference may vary.
post #4398 of 8097
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Originally Posted by midnight77 View Post

someone like you probably.

LAME! your a nutcase........
post #4399 of 8097
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Originally Posted by Wilson333 View Post

If you like your old tv better, then you should quit torturing yourself, return the LG, and set up your old set again. If you're not satisfied with your purchase, then there is no reason to try to force yourself to like it. You can use the refunded $$$$ for something else. If I were in your shoes that is what I would do.

Personally, I love my LG (it replaced a 50" Samsung plasma...which I still have and love). But each individuals experience and preference may vary.

As I said, I don't know if calibrating could make it better. I used oens given in here and in the real world not many people like that look where it's all subdued and bland. So since many on this site like it thatw ay there's no examples on how to get it looking vivid enough for me. Also I don't want to go back to the old one because it's 40 inches. But ghetting a bigger set with worse PQ isn't ideal either.
post #4400 of 8097
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Originally Posted by HDUDE View Post

This is not working for me. I am having the same issue. I updated to the latest rev, but every time I turn on the TV it says a new update has been found and I click OK. On the Home screen in the premium apps area it continuously is circling with the downloading progress message. I have turned the autoupdate check to off, but this is not helping with the situation.

The only thing I have left to try is unplugging the TV so that it has to do a full reboot. However; I really don't want to do this as then I have to go through and adjust all the settings again.

Any ideas?

Yer right, it came back. As long as it's just limited to the menu, I can live with it.
post #4401 of 8097
Watching the Browns game on CBS.... says it is transmitting in 1080i, and the picture is in HiDef but the image is at 4:3. Just scan is enabled... why?
post #4402 of 8097
I don't know, but that reminds me that on another set I was watching a netflix movie which was advertised as HD yet was in 4:3.
post #4403 of 8097
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Originally Posted by scb175 View Post

Watching the Browns game on CBS.... says it is transmitting in 1080i, and the picture is in HiDef but the image is at 4:3. Just scan is enabled... why?

the broadcast signal...
post #4404 of 8097
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Originally Posted by Elevatorman#9 View Post

the broadcast signal...

he just told yoyu the broadcast signal is 1080i.
post #4405 of 8097
Come on guys, a couple of guys already explained that. HD does NOT mean wide screen.

Say I take an HD picture with my digital camera, and I take a same HD picture with my phone. The dimension of it will not be the same even though they're both in HD.

And if I try to show it on the TV the HD picture from the camera will have black bars on the side, and since my phone is widescreen, the HD picture from the phone will fit nicely on the screen.
post #4406 of 8097
Chances are your local affiliate is having issues on their end with acquiring the HDfeed from the network. Their signal is still 1080i, but the content is a 480i source that is up converted to the 1080i signal.
post #4407 of 8097
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Originally Posted by ryguy5254 View Post

Come on guys, a couple of guys already explained that. HD does NOT mean wide screen.

I was told years ago that if I bought a 32 inch 4:3 HDTV back then that it was "impossible" to get true HD on it as "HD by definition is widescreen". Nobody seemed to argue with him either, so it shows even more how hard it is to get straigfht information on something and be sure when purchasing.
post #4408 of 8097
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Originally Posted by midnight77 View Post

he just told yoyu the broadcast signal is 1080i.

you really need to read a book about a/v,or take a course
or something before you type, your on the audio/video short bus.
you don't understand anything that has to do with a broadcast
siginal, 1080 doesn't mean it won't be cropped.

Do us all a favor, return your lg, and go away.
post #4409 of 8097
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Originally Posted by Elevatorman#9 View Post

@ GLAbel35


Try this:

1...turn off the tv and reciever
2...unplug the cable on both ends
3...turn on the reciever and turn hdmi off with cable out
4....turn tv on ,deactivate arc, plug the cable into arc port first,then re-activate arc
5.....turn on reciever activate your hdmi control, without the cable in !
6.....after you activate the reciever hdmi feature plug the hdmi in, it should
recognize 5 volts from the tv and communicate with the hdmi port.

Thanks for the reply. I followed this procedure and didn't have any luck. Any other ideas?
post #4410 of 8097
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Originally Posted by nsky171 View Post

I don't have a denon AVR but i did have a system that support ARC. In order for ARC to work, both system needs to have ARC enable. Did you enable ARC on your Denon AVR? HDMI control is not the same as ARC. Check again and make sure you enabled ARC on your Denon.

Thanks for the reply, according to the AVR1911 manual as well as the dedicated thread on here, turning on HDMI control is how you activate ARC on this receiver.
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