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post #6481 of 8217
We just tried viewing a movie via the wireless adapter directly to the 5600. Even though I'm getting 11Mb/s download speed via my U-verse access, we received so many "buffering" events that we finally just gave up. I killed the DVR and logged the computer off the net, but it didn't help. Is there a better way? The sales guy that sold me the TV said I should use the DVD player instead of the TV as the wireless interface for streaming content, but didn't know why.
post #6482 of 8217
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Originally Posted by saholz View Post

I had my set calibrated using the recommendations given here for the Cinema menu. Picture quality was excellent with vibrant colors, good contrast levels, and only slight edge bleeding on blank screens.

I recently tried the Expert calibration settings from post #2405. As much praise as these settings have gotten, I was totally underwhelmed with the results on my set. Using DirectTV satellite as the source, the picture seemed very flat. Contrast and color levels, as well as sharpness, were down; although edge bleeding was less.

I do like somewhat higher contrast levels and vibrant colors with a sharp picture. I've since gone back to the recommended Cinema calibration and it really looks much better to me.

Am I the only one here who doesn't like the #2405 calibration results? Can there be that much variation between sets, or is it just viewer preference?

It's all viewer preference, and the desire to watch TV the way some set of "standards" tells us how we should view our material. Personally, I could never watch anything using some of these "calibrated" settings, which makes me think I'm watching a fifty year old TV set. IMO, any "movie" or "cinema" preset in a TV looks like crap. Dark, dull and lifeless. And I also don't get the preference towards a "warm" picture, which makes whites look a brownish/orange, like a dingy, old sock. I've always preferred a "cooler" picture, to bring out the whites, as that's the way I see the real world. Bright and cool!
post #6483 of 8217
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Originally Posted by Tony R View Post

We just tried viewing a movie via the wireless adapter directly to the 5600. Even though I'm getting 11Mb/s download speed via my U-verse access, we received so many "buffering" events that we finally just gave up. I killed the DVR and logged the computer off the net, but it didn't help. Is there a better way? The sales guy that sold me the TV said I should use the DVD player instead of the TV as the wireless interface for streaming content, but didn't know why.

I have 6Mb Uverse and have no problems with Netflix using the Wireless adapter
post #6484 of 8217
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Originally Posted by saholz View Post

Menus should come up quickly with no lag. Picture, even with the factory "Standard" defaults, is good. Were you able to get WiFi connected so the set could do its firmware updates?

Nothing you're describing is normal so, if it doesn't clear up with the firmware updates, it certainly sounds like a damaged unit that needs to be replaced.

Call the store and see if they can arrange for a UPS pickup and ship a replacement, rather than have you make the trip again.

Yeah, it is going back. The company wants me to ship it back, they will inspect, and then ship me another unit.
post #6485 of 8217
Can someone please tell me where I can find this "THX Bright Room" setting? I used the ISF calibrated values but I am not too happy with the picture. It's pretty dim for a bright room. By the way I don't see THX picture option in the 5600 menus. Do I need to enable it in the service menu? Thanks.
post #6486 of 8217
Don't know if anyone else noticed this, but with local dimming off, the clouding changes by touching the panel. I cleaned off the panel and noticed that the clouding was different, then cleaned it while the TV was on and watched the clouding, brightness change according to where I was wiping the panel and the direction.
post #6487 of 8217
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Originally Posted by yenal View Post

Can someone please tell me where I can find this "THX Bright Room" setting? I used the ISF calibrated values but I am not too happy with the picture. It's pretty dim for a bright room. By the way I don't see THX picture option in the 5600 menus. Do I need to enable it in the service menu? Thanks.

Thx cinema and bright room are enabled by accessing the service menu for the 5600
post #6488 of 8217
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Originally Posted by TheGoatLantern View Post

Thx cinema and bright room are enabled by accessing the service menu for the 5600

Once I enable that, is there a special setting to apply or I just choose THX bright room?
post #6489 of 8217
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Originally Posted by yenal View Post

Once I enable that, is there a special setting to apply or I just choose THX bright room?

OR...you can check out post #943 over at the 6500 thread in the 3d section. I have used these settings with a few modifications and found them to be the best. I would also agree with Rooski that the warm setting leaves the picture with too much of a yellow / orange cast. I use the medium color setting and now the whites are white!
post #6490 of 8217
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Originally Posted by Tony R View Post

We just tried viewing a movie via the wireless adapter directly to the 5600. Even though I'm getting 11Mb/s download speed via my U-verse access, we received so many "buffering" events that we finally just gave up. I killed the DVR and logged the computer off the net, but it didn't help. Is there a better way? The sales guy that sold me the TV said I should use the DVD player instead of the TV as the wireless interface for streaming content, but didn't know why.

This is not your TV's fault its your connection, have no problems streaming netflix with out any buffering going on through the wireless.
post #6491 of 8217
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Originally Posted by abba1 View Post

OR...you can check out post #943 over at the 6500 thread in the 3d section. I have used these settings with a few modifications and found them to be the best. I would also agree with Rooski that the warm setting leaves the picture with too much of a yellow / orange cast. I use the medium color setting and now the whites are white!

I am assuming that you're referring to this post:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...&postcount=943

So I should try that and maybe change the color temperature to medium? By the way I've enable all the THX options. It was pretty easy with my harmony remote.
post #6492 of 8217
How do I enable the service menu? Can anyone walk me through the steps for the 55lw5600. Do I need a special remote or code because I just do not see it.
post #6493 of 8217
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Originally Posted by morgancha View Post

How do I enable the service menu? Can anyone walk me through the steps for the 55lw5600. Do I need a special remote or code because I just do not see it.

I followed this guide:
http://openlgtv.org.ru/wiki/index.ph..._menus_/_modes
post #6494 of 8217
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Originally Posted by yenal View Post

I am assuming that you're referring to this post:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...&postcount=943

So I should try that and maybe change the color temperature to medium? By the way I've enable all the THX options. It was pretty easy with my harmony remote.

Yep, that's the one. But if you have already enabled the THX settings, then you're already there! As for the warm vs medium temp. Most calibration posts seem to favor the warm setting. But as I already mentioned, the warm setting produces too much of a yellowish, orange hue for my tastes. When I switched from warm to medium, white is white! So, yes, try it and see how you like it!
post #6495 of 8217
Sure see a lot of posts and inquiries about accessing the THX settings and all sorts of other ideas and questions about accessing the service menue etc. to get a good picture. Maybe I don't know a good picture when I see it I don't know, but have found just making some picture adjustments in the Cinema mode leaves me with what I consider an excellent picture. Not really sure how it could get much better. Faces look normal, green looks green, whites look white, blacks look black, colors look great to me, picture detail excellent with lights on or off.
post #6496 of 8217
Does anyone know if there's any sites that have the service manual available? I'm still trying to find out what that CNETV option is.
post #6497 of 8217
how does the 3d quality of the 5600 stack up to the 6500..?
post #6498 of 8217
someone post the link to the universal remote via amazon so i can get to the hidden menus. thanks.
post #6499 of 8217
Please excuse the newbie question.

The manual for my brand-new LG 55LW5600 says "Avoid displaying a fixed image on the TV screen for a long period of time (2 or more hours for LCD, 1 or more hours for the Plasma TV) to prevent image burn."

I was under the impression that LED/LCD displays did not get image burn-in, but the manual indicates otherwise. So I have two related questions:

1) Should I worry about burn-in?

2) When I watch DVDs (which so far seem to have black bars at top/bottom of screen, and thus fixed images for more than 2 hours), do I / should I muck with aspect ratio to force my DVDs to fill the screen?

I finally made the switch from my old 35" CRT which never experienced burn-in, but wanted to be sure I didn't do something stupid here to start out.

Thanks!
post #6500 of 8217
Hi guys!
Just bought a 55" 5600 model LG LEDTV.

I just can't watch any video from browser, eg. Youtube etc.....says I need a flash download.
When I tried that,i dont know what to choose for operating system and no.of bits etc....

What o.s. Is it in the tv, that I should choose to get that flash player installed? Pls share, thanks!
Kris
post #6501 of 8217
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Originally Posted by kris2001 View Post

Hi guys!
Just bought a 55" 5600 model LG LEDTV.

I just can't watch any video from browser, eg. Youtube etc.....says I need a flash download.
When I tried that,i dont know what to choose for operating system and no.of bits etc....

What o.s. Is it in the tv, that I should choose to get that flash player installed? Pls share, thanks!
Kris

I set up the TV to my WiFi and then when I tried the smart features, it asked for 3 or 4 updates. I did nothing but authorize the updates by selecting OK, I believe. Nothing complicated. I don't understand why you would need to choose operating system and number of bits. Perhaps you are getting into settings that will be automatically generated after you log into your Wifi signal.

Good luck
post #6502 of 8217
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Originally Posted by kris2001 View Post

Hi guys!
Just bought a 55" 5600 model LG LEDTV.

I just can't watch any video from browser, eg. Youtube etc.....says I need a flash download.
When I tried that,i dont know what to choose for operating system and no.of bits etc....

What o.s. Is it in the tv, that I should choose to get that flash player installed? Pls share, thanks!
Kris

To my knowledge, there's no Flash available in the browser. Use the YouTube app instead.
post #6503 of 8217
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Originally Posted by zhelder View Post

Does anyone know if there's any sites that have the service manual available? I'm still trying to find out what that CNETV option is.


These are the CNET settings:


HDTV picture settings forum: LG 47LW5600 picture settings

by: katzmaier June 17, 2011 10:24 AM PDT

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LG 47LW5600 picture settings

by katzmaier CNET staff - 6/17/11 10:24 AM

Review:
http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-t...-34468431.html

Related products:
LG 55LW5600

Calibration report using these settings:
http://scr.bi/l1P1nv

Below you'll find the settings we found best for viewing the LG 47LW5600 in a dim room via the HDMI input at 1080p/24 resolution. Your settings may vary depending on source, room conditions, and personal preference. Check out the Picture settings and calibration FAQ for more information.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-9996461-1.html

Picture menu:
Aspect ratio: Just Scan
Energy Saving: Off
Picture Mode: Expert [1 or 2]
Backlight: 34
Contrast: 90
Brightness: 54
H Sharpness: 50
V Sharpness: 50
Color: 50
Tint: 0
TruMotion: Off
LED Local Dimming: High

--Expert control menu
Dynamic contrast: Off
Noise reduction: Off
MPEG Noise Reduction: Off
Super Resolution: Off
Black level: Low
Real Cinema: On
Color Gamut: Standard
Edge Enhancer: Off
xvYCC: Auto [grayed out]
Expert Pattern: Off [grayed out]
Color Filter: Off

Color Temperature: Warm
Gamma: 2.2

Method: [set both, see below]
Pattern: Outer

-- Method: 2-points
Red Contrast: 0
Green Contrast: 6
Blue Contrast: -43
Red Brightness: -1
Green Brightness: 1
Blue Brightness: 2

-- Method: 10 point IRE
Luminance: [130 @ 100, otherwise grayed out]
IRE: [Red, Green, Blue respectively for each IRE point]
100 [13, 0, 6]
90 [8, -1, 4]
80 [7, 3, 6]
70 [3, 1, 3]
60 [6, 6, 6]
50 [4, 4, 4]
40 [2, 2, 2]
30 [2, 2, 3]
20 [1, 1, 2]
10 [-2, -2, -1]

Color management system
Red Color: 1
Red Tint: -10
Green Color: 6
Green Tint: 4
Blue Color: 7
Blue Tint: 0
Yellow Color: 3
Yellow Tint: 3
Cyan Color: 8
Cyan Tint: 0
Magenta Color: 4
Magenta Tint: -1


As mentioned in the review, we also performed a calibration with Local Dimming set to Off. It uses all of the same values as above, with the following exceptions. To compare the two, you can utilize the second Expert memory slot.

LED Local Dimming: Off

Gamma: 2.4

-- Method: 10 point IRE
Luminance: [130 @ 100, otherwise grayed out]
IRE: [Red, Green, Blue respectively for each IRE point]
100 [13, 0, 4]
90 [6, 3, 4]
80 [5, 4, 3]
70 [4, 2, 0]
60 [3, 1, 0]
50 [3, 3, 3]
40 [4, 3, 3]
30 [5, 4, 5]
20 [4, 4, 4]
10 [3, 3, -2]

Found here:

http://forums.cnet.com/7723-19410_10...;threadListing
post #6504 of 8217
I enabled the THX and THX bright room but is there any benefit to editing these as opposed to editing the expert ones?

I'm a bit confused on the benefits of the THX options.
post #6505 of 8217
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Originally Posted by Rooski View Post

It's all viewer preference, and the desire to watch TV the way some set of "standards" tells us how we should view our material. Personally, I could never watch anything using some of these "calibrated" settings, which makes me think I'm watching a fifty year old TV set. IMO, any "movie" or "cinema" preset in a TV looks like crap. Dark, dull and lifeless. And I also don't get the preference towards a "warm" picture, which makes whites look a brownish/orange, like a dingy, old sock. I've always preferred a "cooler" picture, to bring out the whites, as that's the way I see the real world. Bright and cool!

While you are free to choose anything you want for your TV, there is a reason why "warm" is the correct option. There are standards for NTSC/ATSC that try to ensure that the colors that were originally captured (or chosen by the director since it's trivial to manipulate that stuff nowadays) are recreated as acurately as possible on your screen. The "Cool" setting doesn't conform to these specifications, and comes from computer standards instead.
post #6506 of 8217
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Originally Posted by saholz View Post

I had my set calibrated using the recommendations given here for the Cinema menu. Picture quality was excellent with vibrant colors, good contrast levels, and only slight edge bleeding on blank screens.

I recently tried the Expert calibration settings from post #2405. As much praise as these settings have gotten, I was totally underwhelmed with the results on my set. Using DirectTV satellite as the source, the picture seemed very flat. Contrast and color levels, as well as sharpness, were down; although edge bleeding was less.

I do like somewhat higher contrast levels and vibrant colors with a sharp picture. I've since gone back to the recommended Cinema calibration and it really looks much better to me.

Am I the only one here who doesn't like the #2405 calibration results? Can there be that much variation between sets, or is it just viewer preference?

I agree with you. The #2405 ISF calibration looks good for some TV shows (particularly those that weren't show on film), and I really like it for gaming (I used it to setup my Game mode). But for film based material like movies (and a LOT of TV shows) it looks very washed out. The CNET calibration looks amazing for that sort of material. I have the #2405 ISF calibration set to Game mode and Expert1. I use the CNet calibration on Expert2 and use it most of the time. You could also use it on the Cinema mode which is similar anyway.
post #6507 of 8217
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Originally Posted by ddoshan View Post

Sure see a lot of posts and inquiries about accessing the THX settings and all sorts of other ideas and questions about accessing the service menue etc. to get a good picture. Maybe I don't know a good picture when I see it I don't know, but have found just making some picture adjustments in the Cinema mode leaves me with what I consider an excellent picture. Not really sure how it could get much better. Faces look normal, green looks green, whites look white, blacks look black, colors look great to me, picture detail excellent with lights on or off.

Calibration does make a difference, but I've found that you are correct. The Cinema mode is very good. That's not unusual actually. On many TV's the Cinema mode is actually the closest to the NTSC/ATSC spec.
post #6508 of 8217
Turned on the DVR function, hooked a hard drive to USB 1. The TV sees the drive, I formatted it and see the Time Machine app. Now my question is, how do I pause live TV? The pause button on the remote that came with the tv doesn't do anything.
My normal remote is a Harmony 720.
Thanks in advance.

Jody
post #6509 of 8217
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Originally Posted by nmate2oo2 View Post

how does the 3d quality of the 5600 stack up to the 6500..?

can anyone answer this...6500 vs 5600 for 3d...does the 240 hz 6500 make for better 3d quality as far as ghosting etc goes..?
post #6510 of 8217
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Originally Posted by Tony R View Post

We just tried viewing a movie via the wireless adapter directly to the 5600. Even though I'm getting 11Mb/s download speed via my U-verse access, we received so many "buffering" events that we finally just gave up. I killed the DVR and logged the computer off the net, but it didn't help. Is there a better way? The sales guy that sold me the TV said I should use the DVD player instead of the TV as the wireless interface for streaming content, but didn't know why.

I tried U-Verse a year and half ago and I honestly can't see why anyone would have it after trying it for a week. Your problem seems to go along with the rest I've seen.

I couldn't keep sustained data rates because the node was to far away, was the final thought after "7" visits of wasting my time.

Their equipment isn't reliable and always stated my data rate was good for 3 standard TV feeds and 1 HD feed plus the 12 mbps internet rate.

VOD looked like a very poor IPTV channel with ghosting, lags, jerkiness, and digital artifacts large enough to question if this was better than 200 kbps video.

Channels would continuously shut off if left on for 2 hours or so and go to a screen saver. They said this was the design to save data?!!!

They had copy protection flags on every channel that I was legally able to record to Tivo, DVD-RW, or VHS! So I couldn't record to anything other than their crappy built in, 2 tuner, 'for the whole house', DVR! Also those 2 tuners were shared feeds, so I had to watch on 2 tvs what I was recording on those 2 tuners!

Then I had a none erasable VOD history that was available to everyone in the house. We cherish our privacy and don't feel like answering movie review questions to anyone who want to know how a show was.

I went to Comcast, have 2 High Definition DVRs with 2 tuners per DVR, 2 standard cable boxes, excellent quality VOD, privacy, recordability, and a cheaper bill!

Fiber optics vs thin copper phone lines is a pretty obvious outcome.

So I really hope you have better luck than me. I know a few who have only 1 TV, and don't watch much, are happy with them, but we like our features and shows.

Sorry about the rant, I've just been holding it in every time I see someone complaining about another problem with U-Verse. They actually lost me as a phone customer of over 20 years because of their U-Verse incompetence.

I truly hope you get your problem resolved and hope within the last year, their service has improved 2 fold in customer service and performance.
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