Official LG 47LW5600/55LW5600 "Passive 3D" Owners Thread - Page 231

would this be able to work on my tv? Its a Yamaha YHT-S400BL home theater system.Don't really know anything about systems and would like to get one for my room.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/AS...7WIA/yama0e-20

I went thru some ARC troubleshooting last week when I first bought my TV.
It's.. finicky.. but once you set it up it should hold that setting.

Enable ARC on TV
Enable ARC on Receiver
ARC will NOT play until you use Simplink, set it to watch TV, and set audio output at bottom of simplink screen to "HT audio". it's likely on TV audio now.

That should do it.
As far as I can tell, HDMI 1.3 cables can still pass thru ARC. I'm pretty sure one of my cables is older, the other two are 1.4.

FIRMWARE QUESTION
I have a LW5700, My TV is on 4.02.28 and won't find an OTA update.
If I manually copy 4.02.62 on a USB and update my firmware.. will I loose my Local dimming and THX settings that I unlocked in ezmenu? Also will I loose my video tweaks? I've spent all week adjusting to my liking. I'd hate to loose all that on an update.

One of the weak points of Plex is subtitle support. That has always been the case compared to say XBMC. Five days is nothing. Some have waited for years when it's come to subtitles. The moment I hear subtitles is the moment I think of XBMC or some other media player. Other than that Plex is great.

Philip

The youtube author mentioned that it went from 130-160ms down to 70ms with the latest firmware.

I almost forgot about people mentioning to use HDMI3. Maybe the youtube author isn't using it. Does anyone know for sure if HDMI3 has lower input lag than the other HDMI inputs?

Netcruzer,

Can't answer your firmware question, but I wanted to say thanks, thanks, thanks for your explaining Simplink. Because the sound on my LG was its weakest link, I bought a Sony HT-150 soundbar which is great, but could never get it to work via the TV set's WiFi link to Netflix. ARC was enabled on the Sony and the LG and worked fine for DVDs and my cable feed, but I had to use the regular TV sound for the Netflix.....until you came along.

I just wish the owner's manual had information on this. Unless I missed it, I saw nothing.

It seems it would be fine, but, as I've never used that piece of equipment, I don't know for sure. I think I did read somewhere that it doesn't support ARC (see posts between this one and yours), so that may be a consideration. There are many soundbars out there that do support ARC, so, if this one doesn't and you feel it would be a beneficial feature, you might open up your search to include ones that do.

I really am enjoying my Sony HT-150, but it has the disadvantage of limiting the sub's placement options because the IR receiver for the remote is built into the face of the sub. For me, that's not a big problem. For you, it might be.

There is a whole section here at AVS dedicated to discussing soundbars. Scroll down to the Audio Related section and you'll see it. Here's a link.http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/forumdisplay.php?f=195

Whatever you decide, make sure you really learn to get the most out of your soundbar. As you've done here, I'd do a search of AVS to find if there's a dedicated thread dealing with setting it up and dealing with problems you might encounter. I can't tell you how lost I'd be without the good folk here at AVS.

A couple of months ago, a guy on this thread said he had a problem with a Vizio VSB200 sound bar and a LG LW5300. Was wondering, if anyone can confirm that the LG LW5300 will work with the Vizio sound bar?

I have all my regular sources (cable, blu-ray, etc.) coming into my Yamaha receiver then into the TV. For Plex, Netflix, Amazon (any TV source), I have the digital audio out cable from the TV connected to my receiver. When I need to watch Plex (or any of the Smart TV apps), I switch the audio input on my receiver to match the TV Out audio (AV4 in my case). This is all a lot easier with my Harmony remote. I never listen to the TV speakers. The only downside is that audio out on the TV does not support DTS. Dolby Digital (surround) work fine.
I haven't experimented with ARC yet. My existing setup works for me. Maybe I should???

I have not messed with the tv settings much. I have it the way I like it for normal veiwing. Blockbuster is closing stores so picked up some newer dvds and blue rays (5 for $7.50) just to see if flicks of newer viintage make a difference...have not tried them yet.

I also popped in some old tv series dvds...Quincy (remember that show) Very grainy as well...not noticable on the tube tv...allbeit smaller. I have also noticed that thes old tv shows do not look as bad when rebroadcast on regular tv vs this blue ray player. I guess the real test is trying some of the videos I bought last night.

So, is it safe to say a movie like: Sherlock Holmes (Robert Downey verion) is shot digitally...ie not on film...so it should look real good? What about the same movie on regular dvd. I am just trying to set my expectations....

Yeah, there's no perfect set. Not unless you spend a serious amount of money anyway.

I had a Samsung 6xxx briefly but I hated it. Black levels were good but it had annoying flashlighting at all four corners, something that is inherent to the panel design (i.e. not a flaw).

Thank you for the info! I tried but no success yet. Not sure if my Denon fully supports ARC.

I will likely run the digital optical cable.

I couldn't get ARC working, will likely use the method you've described here as well. Thanks.

And the off axis viewing with the Samsung's is poor. The backlight bleed on my two D6000's isn't all that bad. My old LW6500 had near perfect screen uniformity, and a very wide viewing angle.

I've been having the TV disconnect/crash from DLNA when streaming high-rez movies (BDrips/3D). So I decided to manually upgrade to 4.02.62 to see if it's any better.

USB upgrade when well, I did not loose my THX video modes, local dimming, trumotion menus, or my custom video settings. So it's safe to upgrade for those who've made changes from ezmenu.

DLNA works a little bit better.. it sometimes soft-fails back to the DLNA menu, but it still randomly disconnects completely (Throws you back to TV tuner). DLNA implementation is buggy, I searched and saw lots have disconnect issues. No known fix.

I tried different DLNA servers on my Mac (Rivet/Playback/iSedora), they all have various issues. iSedora works the best and is the fastest, but the TV will still disconnect. Only seems to happen on large high-rez files.
Example, open a BDrip with 5.1 audio and start FFx32. If you can make it all the way thru without the TV disconnecting from DLNA, let me know your setup!

I'm on pure Wifi N 5Ghz, static IPs on both server and TV. I also tried 2.4Ghz G/N network and DHCP.. no matter what I try, the TV will randomly disconnect before I can finish a movie.
PS3 does not have any problem, so it's a TV software issue as far as I can tell.

UPDATE - Had a chat with an LG support rep today, he's going to escalate and see if there is a file size limit. I've also asked they they test DLNA streaming of large 1080p content, FF thru it and see if the TV disconnects. The spec sheet says 1080p DLNA is supported, so I'm hoping they look into it.

Sherlock Holmes should look better as it's a MUCH better film transfer. It's still shot on 35mm film, which can and does look amazing, but the transfer to video / DVD / Blu, makes all the world of difference.

Remember too, that cheap disks are usually cheap for a reason and it will show in the overall quality. There are a few low cost gems out there and a lot of overpriced garbage. It takes a considerable amount of time and investment to make a good transfer from a film to a video source and that cost will usually be passed down into the price of the disk. A good transfer of a movie shot 50 to 60 years ago will look better if done right than a bad transfer done last year.

I had a previous Samsung CCFL (A590 I think) and I loved it. No backlighting issues, great picture. It met an unfortunate end (kids, thrown toy, long story).

The newer LED LCD's look nice but they definitely have their issues. The VA panels in the LED Samsungs seem to all suffer from the corner flashlighting, but they have decent blacks. The IPS panels in the LG 5600 have better uniformity and don't have the corner light bleeding, but they're inherently brighter, hence the local dimming.

Maybe the newer OLEDs will get it right?

I've noticed that you did not let us know the size of the tube tv. Keep in mind that the larger the screen the more of the imperfections you will see. Plus - your reference material (Quincy, Field of Dreams, Fletch) are dated and therefore would need a lot more work to get it looking "pristine" on bluray. Time=money so the studios will probably not commit as much resources to these discs as it would not be as profitable to them as other shows/movies.

As for Sherlock Holmes - I've seen it recently on bluray on my set and have to say it looks amazing! As for DVD - to be honest I don't think I would ever watch a dvd movie again - not after bluray. It would be like going from driving to a porsche to driving a honda.

I do second the suggestion of taking a look at the Bluray review section of this forum. Ralp and the gang over there do a pretty through review and can give you a much better idea of what to expect from a movie. Here's his review on Sherlock Holmes - http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...herlock+holmes.

GL.

When you say "Plex is great," are you talking about Plex in general, or Plex on your LG?

Plex has not worked all that great for me on the 5700. I get audio lag with most of the video channels (which I can kind of correct with the tv settings, but that gets annoying after a while), Spotify doesn't work, half the time my video stops working part of the way through a show, and I am unable to fast forward or rewind without receiving an error, so I have to completely start over again. The video quality is also much worse than it should be, because when I connect my laptop through VGA and run all of the same content through the browser, it looks a ton better. And the support over on the Plex forums for MediaLink is non-existent.

I didn't buy this TV for the MediaLink feature, I didn't even know about it when I bought it, so my complaints aren't real serious. But it would be nice if they supported it and fixed some of the issues since they're advertising it as a feature. I'm running PMS on my 4 year old iMac, so maybe it just doesn't have the juice to run everything (although running a Plex client on it along with the media server seems to work fine.) For now I'm better off connecting my laptop to it and running everything from there.

I didn't buy the 55LW5600 for 3D. I bought it because my old plasma seemed to be fading as far as picture quality was concerned and I had read some good things about this TV's 2D picture.

3D to me is very hit or miss, sometimes seeming like a gimmick and, at other times such as Avatar, adding a "you are there" dimensionality to a film which I really like.

So, having all the equipment to play a 3D BluRay, I bought one off of Amazon. At first, my eyes and brain were having to adjust to the DVD, but after around 15 minutes, I just was absorbed into the viewing. And, the experience was wonderful. I just had a great time.

Also, maybe helpful to some of you, I bought LG's clip on 3D glasses as the ones that come with the set just done jive with my glasses. These were super comfortable, although you could see the clip part a bit through the glasses.

Now, I'm glad I bought a 3D TV.

I had the same concept. I was blown away by the 3d demos. Although when I brought the tv home and watched 3d blue-ray movies the excitement went away. I Enjoy 3d but not as much as I did in the beginning still great option to have it!!

If you guys are having trouble with your HDMI input like me, check these out:

http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2
http://www.monoprice.com/products/se...+saver&x=0&y=0

Helps me protect my inputs and route my wires better.

I have seen that may people are unsuccessful with audio DTS and optical out. I am having 2 problems. First problem... no laughing... I have canceled my premium TV service a few months back as I just can't cope with paying $50+ per month for TV ( do subscribe to netflix and hulu, and have apple TV). I actually use an over the air antenna which pick up about 20+ HD Channels in my area. The problem is that I can't get sound via optical and sound only comes out the TV speakers. This is also the same problem when I play video files from the USB. Sound is only coming out the TV speakers. I am shocked that I do not have any audio RCA/Phone outputs although I prefer the optical.


Any suggestions or is the TV limited for audio out?

First - no laughing here. I also cut my cable a few months ago and use my htpc and assorted programs to satisfy my viewing pleasure. I get live tv through my roof antenna hooked directly to the set and no problem with optical audio out to my sound bar. Have you gone into the service menu and done the "audio change". Not sure if that will help you or not but one of the first things I did (even before scanning for channels) was doing the hacks shown in previous posts.

Trying to read through this thread but it's damn long I was wondering the following:
>Has the 3D issues with the PS3 been resolved?
>It seems for a while, the 55" could be found for ~$1200 pretty consistently but the best I can find locally or big name etailer is $1500. I'm wondering why the jump in price?

I was wondering about that also. I got mine back before the New Year and expected prices might actually come down post-CES and in the runup to the Super Bowl; but so far I seem to have gotten the set at a very good time. I don't understand it either.

OK. I've had the set about three weeks now, so I'm finally prepared to comment on it, FWIW.

Overall I'm very happy with the set. The PQ is very, very good to my eye, using mostly the picture wizard settings and occasionally one of the others (vivid, standard, or THX Bright Room) depending on the source material. With local dimming set to medium or high I haven't seen any of the edge flares or uneven portions, blooming, etc. that some have mentioned. Even on a blank screen I see just a slight, slight uniform glow, similar to the appearance of my Dell LCD computer monitor with a blank screen saver but even less light. I guess I was lucky and got a good panel.

I'm even pleasantly surprised by the unit's sound -- it's not great but it's not as bad as I'd expected. I have a Sony soundbar/subwoofer, and I seldom use it unless I'm watching a movie or sporting event with big dynamic sound. The set's internal speakers seem perfectly adequate to me for just watching regular TV.

One thing I will complain about is the unit's SD picture quality. SD channels or older DVDs (I have an upscaling DVD player) don't look so great. But I've gone back and forth with another set, and I think it's more that it's not really that the SD picture quality is any worse than an SD set so much as that it looks so poor in comparison to the picture from an HD source. And, too, it's a lot bigger than an SD set, so of course it's going to look less sharp.

One other thing I will complain about is the way the set formats 4:3 source material from e.g. DVDs. It seems to me that it should scale these at 4:3 to fill the screen vertically, but I get a small centered picture with bars all the way around, and the cinema zoom feature won't expand it without stretching it to a distorted 16:9 aspect ratio. I think I read that this is just the way the set handles this stuff, which if true is pretty dumb. Am I missing something?

All told, I'm very happy with this set. I had pretty much decided that I wanted to go with an LED because brightness is most important to me (very bright room), and a quick look through the threads here on comparable models from Sony and Samsung seem to suggest that sets from those OEMs have more issues with picture quality generally. I really can say that I'm very happy I got this set and have no regrets at all.

Ok, I just popped in my used Sherlock Holmes Blockbust Blue Ray. It is much much better than: Field of Dreams....but still not as nice as my hd channels.

This begs two questions...
1) Why do old tv shows like Seinfeld pop on my hd channel and films do not.

2) Why would a studio take a classic like Field of Dreams and do such a crappy transfer job with it...just makes me less likely to buy any movies made prior the the last few years.

I've been waiting for the price to drop again to pull the trigger on the 55" but I can't find anything less than $1299.

I think you need a proper calibration. Blu rays have, in my experience, the best pq out of any format, and to hear you say that the Sherlock Holmes BD is not as good pq-wise compared to your BD channels tells me something is off....

I noticed a huge difference lately also, and I am running the latest update. I did not have any problems streaming using the nero software when I purchased the TV back in Sept. I could easily watch 1080p content. There have been at least two updates since then that i can remember. I am running a wired setup because my wireless N could not keep up. I thought that it may have been a problem with my network and have yet to verify/confirm that (need to test my lines). I find it strange to just stop working all at once. I can't watch any content anymore without it crashing or the loading screen showing up. This is very frustrating and I am very interested in what you find out. I now have to play content from USB storage instead of the network. I haven't tried any others severs but will if my network is good.