Official LG 47LW5600/55LW5600 "Passive 3D" Owners Thread - Page 236

I tried these settings and i find them more better than these

HDMI 1 Input
ISF Expert 2

Energy Saving Off for Day Time ( Mimimum or Medium at night)

Range of Values based on user reports.
Backlight 41 (27-65) Higher setting causes wash out.
Contrast 87 (83-96) Higher setting casues white clip.
Brightness 55 (50-65) Higher setting causes wash out.
H. Sharpness 62 (62-71) 50 is neutral, higher may casue halos
V, Sharpness 55 (55-64) 50 is neutral, higher may casue halos
Color 50 (42-59) 50 is neutral, higher may casue color bleed
Tint 0

Expert Control
Dynamic Contrast Off (Try Medium for more pop. Low or High causes black crush)
Noise Reduction Off
Dig Noise Reduct. off
Black Level Low
Real Cinema Off
Color Gamut BT709
Edge Enhancer Low
xvYCC Auto
Expert Pattern Off (normaly)
Color Filter Off

Color Temperature Warm

Gamma 2.2

Method 10Point

Pattern Outer (Inner if you have no calibratone DVD )

IRE 100 Luminance = 115

IRE Adj. Points R, G, B

100 3, 2, -1
90 2, 4, -2
80 2, 3, -3
70 3, 1, -4
60 2, 1, -6
50 3, 0, -6
40 3, 0, -5
30 1, 1, -5
20 1, 3, -2
10 2,-1, 3
0 1,-2, 1

Color Man. System

Red Color -12
Red Tint -7
Green Color -15
Green Tint -6
Blue Color -6
Blue Tint 0
Yellow Color 7
Yellow Tint -15
Cyan Color 6
Cyan Tint 7
Magenta Color -12
Magenta Tint 13

Just received my 55LW5600 and I did the hidden service menu (wow). I originally purchased the 55TL515U and that was a great set too! The comparisons at times is like splitting hairs but a few things just works better for me on the LG. I did the iPhone remote and that is way cool. If you have not done so already do yourself a favor and get that free app! I love the user interface of the LG over the the Tosh and the picture just seems more vibrant to me. I understand thats a settings issue and both would look great but I just like the way the LG feels overall. I manage to overcome the lag on the LG but the Tosh was superior in that regard. This Tv is simply amazing and the THX settings just wowed me! I am a very heavy gamer and movie watcher and this tv is such a great addition to the entertainment department!! My previous set was the KDL XBR2 40" and the 55 is perfect. Now my sony sits in the bedroom! Anyway this is a great forum and my set hit the ground running thanks to everyone's contribution. For those who have any questions on the Tosh feel free to ask me as I did run them side by side. Now its time to find some good deals on 3D Blu-rays!

yes the thx settings really are nice. Have you messed with the trumotion settings on the lg and how it compares with the toshiba? Do you use the true motion and if so what is your settings..ie.. low/high or user. I like the "soap opera effect" and keep mine set on low with thx bright room setting.

I thought I read that the THX settings could not be enabled on this set without problems arising. Is this not correct?

If that is incorrect, could you give any details of what the THX settings offer beyond what is normally available (i.e. without going through the service menu?)

Thanks,

Larry

Before I start chasing this issue down, does anyone know how common it is (if at all) for this to simply happen once in a while? In other words, is this behavior (pink tinted screen) something that can simply happen once in a while due to HDMI handshake or other issues? Or, does this symptom definitely point to an actual malfunction? It seems like the previous posters in this thread that mentioned this did not do anything to fix it.

Thanks again,

Larry

When I turn local dimming off, I get fairly significant flashlighting/blotchiness on the screen. There is no particular pattern -- it's just a bunch of random "cloudy" areas of higher brightness. It's very obvious even in a brighter room. When I turn local dimming back on the issue pretty much goes completely away on a black screen, but as bright objects move around a black screen, I can see these "problem spots" show up where the bright "clouds" appear.

I don't think it's a deal breaking issue, and I know that at least "some" of this behavior is expected, but I want to make sure that what I'm describing is normal behavior and not a problem specific to my set. I don't have much experience with LG LW series sets, or with edge lit LCD/LED sets in general, so I want to make sure sure that this isn't a malfunction.

Thanks,

Larry

Yes, that's completely normal. IPS panels do have higher black levels than other panels due to their nature. But they provide the best off center viewing angles, colors and contrast. Local dimming is really needed with IPS and it creates some really deep blacks better than a lot of plasma TVs.

With Edge Lit LEDs, you will have what's called clouding. It's a brightness uniformity issue where there are splotches of brighter areas on the TV. That's completely normal. If it's more splotchy than you like, try using the cleaning cloth that came with the TV and wipe the screen. These screens are really sensitive and you can actually change the clouding pattern just by wiping the screen. Not trying, but mine was left from my last screen clean with very minimal clouding. It's pretty uniform right now, but if I clean it again, it'll likely change. Also, some of the clouding does get better after using the TV for extended time periods. Even though not considered a burn in, it does help with clouding. I think it helps stabilize the LEDs light output, but have no evidence, it just looked better after using it with no screen cleaning in between.

When using local dimming, it turns off or lowers the output of the LEDs in dark areas and completely alleviates this clouding issue when it's set to LOW, MED, or HIGH.

When a small, very bright white object is surrounded by a large black area, you will see some blooming, or what's referred to with LED TVs as Flashlighting. Since local dimming either turns off or turns down the light output of the LEDs, when a bright white object needs light, the edge lit LEDs that need to be ON, have to shine across the black areas. This brightens up those specific black areas between the edge of the TV and the bright object that's being lit up.

To do away with flashlighting, you can turn off local dimming, but then your black areas are bright again. OR you can try the LOW setting which allows brighter black areas (but darker than OFF), and produces less flashlighting. Medium really does nothing as far as I can see. It's essentially the same as High.

I prefer HIGH local dimming. While it produces more flashlighting than OFF or LOW, it produces great blacks while the other settings do not. As far as I'm concerned, I can have a little flashlighting that only lights up a small area of black, or have none that brightens up all the black areas. I would rather have as much dark black areas as possible. I think local dimming is great and can not see why anyone would not want it on their set. Flashlighting is pretty rare also, usually only seen on rare scenes that highlight it. The benefit of a truly dark black far outweighs the minimal flashlighting that does occur on those rare scenes.

Then again if high black levels don't bother you as much as the flashlighting, you may want to try the local dimming "LOW" setting. This is actually the default setting on most video modes. LOW setting is still MUCH better than OFF, but you don't really get the super deep blacks that HIGH provides.

Now some VA panels from Samsung can produce as good or better blacks due to the panel itself but from what I seen on a Samsung LN52B750, you get no detail in the dark black areas. It's just like super dark blobs where you get no detail as individual hairs on someones head and the like. I'm struggling to get a good picture on my father-in-laws Samsung LN52B750 which looks to have better black levels than our 47LW5600 (he has one as well) without local dimming (it's a CCFL LCD, not LED), but it has no detail, not as much contrast for pop, and viewing angles aren't as good. We both prefer the 47LW5600 much better.

So it sounds like you may like the "LOW" setting on local dimming more. Good luck with getting what you like the most.

I turned up the 3D setting to plus 5 and enjoyed better 3D. I watched Transformers 3 in 3D and it popped out of the TV. Before the increased setting, 3D had little pop out effect. Movie was slow though.

Does anybody know where I can find a 55LW5600 for $1200 or less??

Maybe used.

On black Friday, after a dispute with employees, and a manager forgiveness price, I was able to get the 47LW5600 for $750 and other members were able to get it for $850 and $820 with a Bluray player and extra glasses. The 55" goes for $500 more than than the 47", so at best, you'll be looking at $1250. In honesty, no one has been able to get the 47" that cheap from a reputable dealer new after black friday. The cheapest I've seen now is $1000 with extra glasses. So you'll likely be looking at $1500 for the 55" with some extra glasses.

i see the 47 for 929 @ EastCoastTvs but thee 55 is still 1350ish. 1200 is my #. Maybe 1250

OldSchool, that was hhgregg, right? I'm in Arkansas so there not an option unless they ship free....

Sams club, FTW-$1247. Here we go....

Uggh, i ain't paying $125 in taxes, hell no.

Trying to get my new 55LW5600, DirecTV satellite box and Sony HT-CT550W sound bar to work all together. I am hoping someone might give me some tips. I was working with it today made some progress but it is not all working right yet. Hope someone else here has a similar setup and can give me some advice.

I turn on my LG 55LW5600, DirecTV box and my Sony HT-CT550W. Everything is working and the sound is going through the Sony soundbar. I have the DirecTV box plugged into the Sony receiver and then the HDMI out going to the LG TV in. I have ARC turned on for both the LG TV and the Sony soundbar. My soundbar is in the SAT/DVR input mode. I open my LG menu and go to input. I turn on SimpLink and it finds HT Speakers as an option. I select them and it connects. When I adjust the volume on the TV it now says Home Theater Volume and shows on the screen as well as the receiver display. This is great, I really like that capability. It does the same when I use the volume control on the DirecTV remote. When I turn off the power from the DirecTV remote, the TV, DirecTV box and Sony receiver all shut off.

Here is where I have the problem. When I turn it on through the Sony receiver does not come back on. Now I did at one point have it so the Sony receiver would come on, but when it did it would always come on in the TV mode, so I wasn't getting any sound. It would be in SAT/DVR mode when it went off, but would come back on TV mode. I tried some different configurations and now I can't seem to get the Sony receiver to turn back on when I turn everything else on.

So I am hoping someone can direct me so that I can get the Sony turning back on with the ON button. Also I don't know why it's not coming back on in SAT/DVR mode.

Thanks

That's the 55LW5700, not the 55LW5600. LW5700 is a lower model with only LED not LED Plus w/ local dimming. Yes, that was H.H. Greg but the 55LW5600 is now $1600 there since it's not black friday anymore. You can get it at East Coast, but it's cheaper because they offer no refund or exchange policy! You have it shipped and after you sign off of it, it's all yours with no recourse but LGs own warranty. They expect you to set it up and test everything out on it, while the shipper waits for you to sign off on it. Yeh right, this is shady for sure. That's why I don't buy from New egg either. I've had my fair share of electronics with problems that were not seen initially but after extensive use. No support, no business from me. Plus they even want to charge for shipping.

If anyone wants a barely used 475600 send me a PM. Bought it a few months ago at Best Buy and currently am working on another project, so its not even hooked up now. Anyway, by the time I get around to using it, well, who knows when I'll get to that, so might as well give someone else the chance if interested. If local to DC/Northern Virginia area that would be a bonus. LMK

Thanks Josh for the info on updating. I used it successfully on my 47lw5600.

Is the screen really THAT sensitive to touch? Is it the pressure that does this? I installed my set myself (it's only about 50Lbs, which is completely manageable in my opinion), and when I put it onto the wall mount, I had to have it lean against my chest a bit while I aligned the hangers to the bracket. I was very careful -- the foam cover was still on, and I wore a soft robe for extra protection -- but if the screen is ultra sensitive to pressure, I'm now a bit concerned that this could have potentially caused an issue. I thought that the concerns about the screen were primarily to prevent scratches, and I would have thought that the screen was able to easily withstand this type of handling -- I've heard of people laying them face down on a blanket or bed in order to install or remove the stand, which I would think could cause more pressure than just "leaning" against my chest with it relatively upright. With your comments about simply "wiping" it to change the cloudiness, however, I'm not so sure, and now I find myself rather worried about having held it this way even briefly. Other than the cloudiness I don't notice any issues, but did I potentially blow it?


Regarding the brightness clouds, what is considered "minimal" clouding on these sets? Are some people able to get almost unnoticeable clouding even in a totally dark room? On my set, in a totally dark room the clouding is obvious (with local dimming off), and it's definitely not even across the screen.


Unfortunately, I also like good black levels, and in my opinion this set doesn't come close to achieving good blacks this without local dimming on HIGH.

Thanks for the feedback,

Larry

I set up the dvr/pvr functions on my 47LW5700 and added a usb harddrive. Its great for recording antennae tv. My only complaint was that the tv's remote doesn't have a "record" button to immediately begin recordings.

I've got a Logitech Harmony 700 multi-function remote. It has a "record" button but it does nothing when set up to work with the tv. I checked around the internet and decided to try setting the remote to work with an LG 50PS70FD which I think was one of LG's first tv's with a built in dvr/pvr. Now the "record" button on the Harmony remote does exactly what you'd expect and immediately starts recordings on the dvr/pvr. All the other buttons also work just like you'd expect.

With the instant "record" button, the dvr/pvr now works perfectly for me.

Hope this helps someone.

5700 is same set with a different bezel if you go in to the service menu and activate local dimming. In Asia it comes on by default. I actually like the bezel on the 5700 better.

As I stated before, I would not trust to unlock an option as the rest of the circuitry may not be designed for it.

It may cause performance or reliability issues down the road. That feature may require more capacitors or the such, which as cheap as they are, do add to the overall price of the TV. So makers skimp on certain models and sell them at a lower price, just as Costco and Sams Club do in the USA with the LW5700.

It's your TV and you can do with it, what you will, but if the TV was designed to have that feature, it wouldn't be locked. Just my opinion.

NOW, if there was any evidence that this model is the same as the LW5600 by scrutinizing all the circuit boards, the components, circuit runs on them, and the power supply, and they are found to be the same, then I may agree. BUT no one here has done that and no professional reviewer to my knowledge has done this as well.

$1200 w/out tax was a BF price. Low $1300s is a steal for an "everyday"price. Like I said, I paid $1330, no tax. Free shipping, too. I just went over to Amazon and five sellers had them between $1310 and $1350. That's as cheap as you are going to get for now.

Comp USA is selling the 55LW5600 for $1300. I bought mine at one of their retail stores outside Chicago.

Same circuits and boards for both here are the training manuals. They both use the same power supply boards. The main boards have a different part number but are chip for chip exact. Repair voltage specs are the same as well. Both manuals show 16 blocks of local dimming. The difference is to give big box retailers protection against price matching.

http://136.166.4.200/contents/Displa...esentation.pdf

http://136.166.4.200/contents/Displa...esentation.pdf

http://136.166.4.200/contents/Displa...V/55LW5700.htm

http://136.166.4.200/contents/Displa...V/55LW5600.htm

The tru motion on the LG is just as good as the tosh. I mean at times it was hard to discern. The Lg has more tweaks however. I kept it off mostly on the tosh and leave it on low with the LG. Overall I think the 3D on the LG when doing the 2D to 3D has more depth then the tosh. That and the user interface just makes it a much better set to me. I dont have 240hz now but in all my research that seems subjective anyway to which is superior. If I had notice it right away I would have kept the tosh but honestly they seem pretty much the same in motion department. But the tosh has slightly more soap opera effect then this LG.

The THX setting seem much more sharp and true to colors to me. My friends whom have seen it also thinks so. The bright room THX settings are really crisp and not overly washed out. I have enabled it and I have not had any issues on it what so ever. I think honestly if you try hard enough you can duplicate most of the settings and get similar results on expert 1 or 2. So I dont think anyone really misses out that much if you dont enable it. one thing is for sure this set out of the box needed much less tweaking then the tosh I bought.

Just a heads up guys, there is an Android app to control our TVs. You need to be an a hone wifi network but it's pretty sweet. Search "lg remote app"on the market. You can volume up/down, channel up/down, play pause rewind fast forward record, you can use the phone touch screen to control the on screen cursor....AMAZING!

Great post, and I just wanted to add from my experience that turning the THX and local dimming on using the service menue was a snap (got a $9 universal remote at Wal-Mart and was good to go) and I've had zero issues since then. I've even manually updated to the latest firmware from the website using a USB stick and it worked without a hitch and without turning off these features. Like the above poster said, the reason they do this is to prevent pricematching.

If you're looking for the 55" set in the 1200-1300 price range Sam's Club or Costco are really your best options right now. I would recommend the 5700 series without any reservation.

Also available for iOS. Great app.