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post #7381 of 8217
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Originally Posted by sdjhome View Post

Yes, if you input the THX settings manually on Expert 1 or 2 you will get the same effect. Someone has posted the settings on the forum and I tried them after I enabled the THX settings through the EZ menu. IMO they look the same, plus you will be able to tweak individual settings to fit your preference. By the way, I also enabled 5.1 pass-through to the optical out and found that I had annoying sync problems. I eventually turned it back to factory settings for that.

I also enabled 5.1 pass through via the service menu and found the same sync issues . I went restore factory settings back by hitting the reset in the AC3 EDID/DL box and now I get no sound or picture via HDMI. I get NG on all but no picture or sound. How did you get back the factory AC3 settings...how did you do it specifically..
post #7382 of 8217
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Originally Posted by sdjhome View Post

I have the same problem that you are experiencing and also tried changing HDMI cables and inputs and I still continued to have the same issue. I tried swapping my DVR/cable box with a different unit that I had in the house and still had the same problem. I got tired of hearing the family calling me at work complaining about it so I just switched to component video cables from the DVR to TV and it works fine.

Re: using component cable
Will component cables work with 3D video?
My cable company offers a good selection of 3D PPV movies that I would like to watch. I'm under the impression that HDMI is required for 3D.
post #7383 of 8217
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Originally Posted by Sgooter View Post

Re: using component cable
Will component cables work with 3D video?
My cable company offers a good selection of 3D PPV movies that I would like to watch. I'm under the impression that HDMI is required for 3D.

That is correct, you will need to use HDMI for 3D content sent in 1080p from the cable company. From what I understand, Component will only work up to 1080i. Thats how it works on my DVR/cable box anyway. Don't know if there is a way around it or not.
post #7384 of 8217
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Originally Posted by morgancha View Post

I also enabled 5.1 pass through via the service menu and found the same sync issues . I went restore factory settings back by hitting the reset in the AC3 EDID/DL box and now I get no sound or picture via HDMI. I get NG on all but no picture or sound. How did you get back the factory AC3 settings...how did you do it specifically..

In the service menu it is #11 "PCM EDID D/L". Then "ok" should change it back to original setting.
post #7385 of 8217
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Originally Posted by Sgooter View Post

I don't want to risk going into the service menu to activate THX, but I would like to see the THX settings/numbers, then I could select a picture mode, say Expert 2, and apply those THX settings - the results should be the same as activating THX, right?

Someone else mentioned that what you're looking for has already been posted to this thread. I, too, wanted to use those settings and considering the huge size of this thread I copied & saved the post so I wouldn't have to search for it later. I failed to copy the author, so I can't give credit, but here is the information to save some people the pain of doing the search:

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Originally Posted by Most Excellent Poster View Post

Here are the settings I get under THX Bright Room. You should be able to go to "Expert1" or "Expert2" and put most of these in to see how they work for you:

Backlight: 50
Contrast: 83
Brightness: 51
H. Sharpness: 50
V. Sharpness: 50
Color: 53
Tint: 0

Under Advanced:
Dynamic Contrast: Off
Noise Reduction: Low
Super Resolution: Off
MPEG Noise Reduction: Off
Black Level: Low
Color Gamut: Standard
Edge Enhancer: Off
Color Filter: Off
Color Temperature: Warm
Gamma: 1.9
Method: 10 Point IRE
Pattern: Outer
IRE: 100
Luminance: 200
All the rest: 0
post #7386 of 8217
Is there a way to completely shut off "Real Cinema"? I really do not like the effect it gives my bluray movies. I mean, I can live with but I was thinking of trying to see what the difference would be without it turned on.

Can it be turned off in the service menu?
post #7387 of 8217
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Originally Posted by flex727 View Post

Someone else mentioned that what you're looking for has already been posted to this thread. I, too, wanted to use those settings and considering the huge size of this thread I copied & saved the post so I wouldn't have to search for it later. I failed to copy the author, so I can't give credit, but here is the information to save some people the pain of doing the search:

Thanks flex,
The O.P. was by mchaney and is #943 in the "LG Passive LW6500 dedicated thread" in the "3D Displays" forum. What I don't recall seeing here are the THX settings/values for an 47LW5600 TV; not sure if they are the same.
At any rate, I plan to give mchaney's THX settings/values a try this weekend in the Expert 2 mode, mainly out of curiosity. Right now, I'm actually very pleased with this TV's PQ from the few little tweaks I applied to the CNET calibration settings, and this reminds me to copy them down for safekeeping.
post #7388 of 8217
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Originally Posted by letsee13 View Post

A few questions:

1. I enabled THX but find it is somewhat dark and doesn't pop (like some have mentioned). Stunningly, I almost like the brightness of "Standard." My TV is in a room that has 3 windows and a good deal of light during daytime and then dark at night.

Are there suggested setting changes to brighten THX a bit or should I input the settings someone posted with the actual THX settings into one of the Expert modes and then change those settings (and what can you experts suggest)?

2. If I make a change to a picture setting (Standard, Cinema, etc.) and decide I don't like the changes, I see there is a choice to do picture reset, but if I choose that option does it reset only that picture setting or all of them?

3. I have plasma TVs right now and have had horrible luck with finding dead or stuck pixels. Is there anything I need to specifically look for on this TV (the 47LW5600)? I saw a few posts about dead pixels and bleeding. For example, on the Panny plasma there is a brightness issue that was fixed after a certain date and serial number. Is there something easy I can do/check on the LW5600 to look for the most common problems right away? My set was built in January and came with the latest firmware already.
(I know dead pixels don't always show on regular programming but I'd prefer a set that doesn't start with dead pixels just to avoid possible future issues.)


Thanks! I'm sure the answers will help others here as well!

Trying again. Thanks for any help!
post #7389 of 8217
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Originally Posted by Sgooter View Post

Thanks flex,
The O.P. was by mchaney and is #943 in the "LG Passive LW6500 dedicated thread" in the "3D Displays" forum. What I don't recall seeing here are the THX settings/values for an 47LW5600 TV; not sure if they are the same.
At any rate, I plan to give mchaney's THX settings/values a try this weekend in the Expert 2 mode, mainly out of curiosity. Right now, I'm actually very pleased with this TV's PQ from the few little tweaks I applied to the CNET calibration settings, and this reminds me to copy them down for safekeeping.

Feel free to post what tweaks you made to the CNET settings that you like (and what your viewing conditions are that led to the tweaks)!
post #7390 of 8217
Hey guys...could use some help/thoughts here...

I'm in the market for a 55'' TV, and this LG 55LW5600 one has really caught my eye, despite me having always been a Sony person.

I'll definitely try to dive into the thread, but since it's so long, I was hoping a few people could share their thoughts on the following:

1) Regarding the bezel...is this a protruding bezel, or more monolithic and flat (sort of behind the glass, like some Sony's?)

2) Are there any overwhelming concerns that a lot of people tend to have with this TV? Does anything break? Is there a preponderance of flash lighting, clouding, or any other problems that hinder the picture quality? Any problem with the sound quality?

3) Have you noticed any input lag when video gaming? Does the TV come with a Game Mode?

4) How is the local dimming? Do the blacks look very deep? Any drawbacks to the local dimming feature?

5) How is the 120Hz Tru Motion? I would primarily use it for Sports--does it help the picture/blur greatly? Any drawbacks in using it?

6) Also, can you turn off the Tru Motion? And if so, how in the settings does it allow you to do that? Is it something like: Off, Low, Medium, High?

7) How's the Wi-fi? Easy to connect to? Are the apps quick to use or kind of slow and buggy? And also, does downloading updates to your TV cause it to perform strangely sometimes? That's my only fear with the updates and TV wifi.

8) I'll try to look on YouTube for this answer, but in your opinion, how easy or clunky are the settings on the TV? Easy to navigate? Cumbersome?

9) And lastly, how's the 3D? I understand it uses sort of a different tech, and therefore you can utilize the more simple glasses. I've heard this is actually better, but is it? And is there any concern that passive 3D will be phased or whatever, and that LG's use of this will become null and void? Because every other TV manufacturer uses the bigger, darker glasses, right?

Thanks guys.
post #7391 of 8217
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Originally Posted by PacMan2006 View Post

Hey guys...could use some help/thoughts here...

I'm in the market for a 55'' TV, and this LG 55LW5600 one has really caught my eye, despite me having always been a Sony person.

I'll definitely try to dive into the thread, but since it's so long, I was hoping a few people could share their thoughts on the following:

1) Regarding the bezel...is this a protruding bezel, or more monolithic and flat (sort of behind the glass, like some Sony's?)

2) Are there any overwhelming concerns that a lot of people tend to have with this TV? Does anything break? Is there a preponderance of flash lighting, clouding, or any other problems that hinder the picture quality? Any problem with the sound quality?

3) Have you noticed any input lag when video gaming? Does the TV come with a Game Mode?

4) How is the local dimming? Do the blacks look very deep? Any drawbacks to the local dimming feature?

5) How is the 120Hz Tru Motion? I would primarily use it for Sports--does it help the picture/blur greatly? Any drawbacks in using it?

6) Also, can you turn off the Tru Motion? And if so, how in the settings does it allow you to do that? Is it something like: Off, Low, Medium, High?

7) How's the Wi-fi? Easy to connect to? Are the apps quick to use or kind of slow and buggy? And also, does downloading updates to your TV cause it to perform strangely sometimes? That's my only fear with the updates and TV wifi.

8) I'll try to look on YouTube for this answer, but in your opinion, how easy or clunky are the settings on the TV? Easy to navigate? Cumbersome?

9) And lastly, how's the 3D? I understand it uses sort of a different tech, and therefore you can utilize the more simple glasses. I've heard this is actually better, but is it? And is there any concern that passive 3D will be phased or whatever, and that LG's use of this will become null and void? Because every other TV manufacturer uses the bigger, darker glasses, right?

Thanks guys.

I'm no expert so I can't answer most of those questions. What I can tell you is the bezel is raised a little from the screen.
The 3D is the hands down best I have ever seen on a tv. You won't be disappointed.
The stock setting on the tv sucked when I got mine. That was several firmware updates ago so I don't know if the stock settings are different now or not. After tweaking the settings, the picture looks good.
post #7392 of 8217
Would someone who has activated the THX Bright Room mode on their 47LW5600 please post their settings/values for this picture mode?
Also, does activating the THX mode affect the audio settings?
Below are the THX Bright Room settings for the 65LW6500, and I would like to know if they are exactly the same for the 47LW5600.

THX Bright Room Settings for LG 65LW6500:

Backlight: 50
Contrast: 83
Brightness: 51
H. Sharpness: 50
V. Sharpness: 50
Color: 53
Tint: 0

Under Advanced:
Dynamic Contrast: Off
Noise Reduction: Low
Super Resolution: Off
MPEG Noise Reduction: Off
Black Level: Low
Color Gamut: Standard
Edge Enhancer: Off
Color Filter: Off
Color Temperature: Warm
Gamma: 1.9
Method: 10 Point IRE
Pattern: Outer
IRE: 100
Luminance: 200
All the rest: 0
post #7393 of 8217
9) And lastly, how's the 3D? I understand it uses sort of a different tech, and therefore you can utilize the more simple glasses. I've heard this is actually better, but is it? And is there any concern that passive 3D will be phased or whatever, and that LG's use of this will become null and void? Because every other TV manufacturer uses the bigger, darker glasses, right?

Toshiba and Vizio both offered passive 3D last year with the same type of glasses. Panasonic is offering 2 models of this type for next year. You can view any 3D programming with either type of system so there is no danger of obsolescence with a passive system. As to whether it's better, you can go to a store like Best Buy and decide for yourself.
post #7394 of 8217
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Originally Posted by Sgooter View Post

Would someone who has activated the THX Bright Room mode on their 47LW5600 please post their settings/values for this picture mode?
Also, does activating the THX mode affect the audio settings?
Below are the THX Bright Room settings for the 65LW6500, and I would like to know if they are exactly the same for the 47LW5600.

THX Bright Room Settings for LG 65LW6500:

Backlight: 50
Contrast: 83
Brightness: 51
H. Sharpness: 50
V. Sharpness: 50
Color: 53
Tint: 0

Under Advanced:
Dynamic Contrast: Off
Noise Reduction: Low
Super Resolution: Off
MPEG Noise Reduction: Off
Black Level: Low
Color Gamut: Standard
Edge Enhancer: Off
Color Filter: Off
Color Temperature: Warm
Gamma: 1.9
Method: 10 Point IRE
Pattern: Outer
IRE: 100
Luminance: 200
All the rest: 0


I have the 47lw5600 and it is exactly the same. But i changed mine to medium and 2.2 gamma.
post #7395 of 8217
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Originally Posted by da9lsintegra View Post

I have the 47lw5600 and it is exactly the same. But i changed mine to medium and 2.2 gamma.

Thanks for clearing up this issue.
post #7396 of 8217
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Originally Posted by da9lsintegra View Post

I have the 47lw5600 and it is exactly the same. But i changed mine to medium and 2.2 gamma.

What setting did you change to medium?
post #7397 of 8217
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Originally Posted by monse120186 View Post

I just used this yesterday and it works perfectly. You have to make sure they are both connected to WiFi, if the app does not recognize the TV just type the IP address manually.

You can be at any input and you will get thepairing message on your TV.

I am trying to use the LG TV remote app on my Motorola Atrix, it just does not find the tv, the TV shows the pairing key box with dots in it, but nothing on the phone.
You mentioned that you entered the IP address, but i dont see any option to key in the IP address in the app on the phone.
can you let me know how you entered the IP address?
post #7398 of 8217
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Originally Posted by PacMan2006 View Post

Hey guys...could use some help/thoughts here...

I'm in the market for a 55'' TV, and this LG 55LW5600 one has really caught my eye, despite me having always been a Sony person.

I'll definitely try to dive into the thread, but since it's so long, I was hoping a few people could share their thoughts on the following:

I have the 47LW5600, so I'll answer based on the smaller TV.

1) Regarding the bezel...is this a protruding bezel, or more monolithic and flat (sort of behind the glass, like some Sony's?)

Standard frame/bezel. The new 7600 has a 1/2" behind the frame, bezel.

2) Are there any overwhelming concerns that a lot of people tend to have with this TV? Does anything break? Is there a preponderance of flash lighting, clouding, or any other problems that hinder the picture quality? Any problem with the sound quality?

Use local dimming and the clouding is gone. The flashlighting is minimal and truely acceptable.

3) Have you noticed any input lag when video gaming? Does the TV come with a Game Mode?

I don't video game. Not enough extra time to play games.

4) How is the local dimming? Do the blacks look very deep? Any drawbacks to the local dimming feature?

Very black. There are minor anomalies. Really small objects that are the only items on a totally black screen tend to be dimmer when set to high. Low local dimming leaves blacks to bright. I found Medium to offer deep blacks while allowing these super rare scenes to be brighter.

5) How is the 120Hz Tru Motion? I would primarily use it for Sports--does it help the picture/blur greatly? Any drawbacks in using it?

Makes the wife dizzy and looks really bad and not natural. We leave it off. It creates the Soap Opera Effect as others have labeled it.

6) Also, can you turn off the Tru Motion? And if so, how in the settings does it allow you to do that? Is it something like: Off, Low, Medium, High?[/color]

Yes it can be turned off, it has the settings of OFF, LOW, MED, Hi and a custom adjustment. Using the Antiblur makes items jerky or studder, while the smoothing gives the SOA. Leave it OFF and be happy.

7) How's the Wi-fi? Easy to connect to? Are the apps quick to use or kind of slow and buggy? And also, does downloading updates to your TV cause it to perform strangely sometimes? That's my only fear with the updates and TV wifi.

WiFi works great but no one can get the latest update to download through the Wifi. Apps are pretty useless and geared to a Korean audience. Previous Updates worked well.

8) I'll try to look on YouTube for this answer, but in your opinion, how easy or clunky are the settings on the TV? Easy to navigate? Cumbersome?

There are some deeper menu levels but pretty easy at least for me.

9) And lastly, how's the 3D? I understand it uses sort of a different tech, and therefore you can utilize the more simple glasses. I've heard this is actually better, but is it? And is there any concern that passive 3D will be phased or whatever, and that LG's use of this will become null and void? Because every other TV manufacturer uses the bigger, darker glasses, right?

This is the NEW, second generation 3D called Passive and it blows away the crappy active 3D on competeing sets and even LGs Plasma TV. Blows away is a very good term because active 3D causes annoying flickering and jerkiness and crosstalk (3D image separating and bluring) compared to the new Passive 3D. Active 3D flickering resembles an old school CRT 60Hz flickering which induces headaches and fatigue.
post #7399 of 8217
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Originally Posted by rahulp001 View Post


I am trying to use the LG TV remote app on my Motorola Atrix, it just does not find the tv, the TV shows the pairing key box with dots in it, but nothing on the phone.
You mentioned that you entered the IP address, but i dont see any option to key in the IP address in the app on the phone.
can you let me know how you entered the IP address?

He was taking about the LG Service Menu Explorer app. You can enter the IP address on that app (but it still doesn't work if you are having that pairing key issue on the LG TV Remote app).

I am having the exact same issue with the LG TV Remote app. Spoke with them several times and they don't know what to do.

Best advice I can give you is to call them and when they don't know, ask to be escalated.

I got transferred to an American who was a Communications Supervisor in the Executive Services department. He conferenced an engineer on with us. They said they would follow up with me when they had a fix.

Maybe if they know the issue is widespread they will work a little faster.

The regular frontline LG support didn't have any idea though. They told me everything from "it's not an LG app," "it's not supported," "have to call back tomorrow to get a different department," to "you have to call your cell phone service provider for help." Every call to them was a different frustration.

They also said they would call me back the next day after researching it (several times) and never did. Every call to them ended with them needed to research it further and promising to call me back the next day (which never happened).

You pretty much have to ask for a manager (in the department I listed) if you want to get anywhere with this.
post #7400 of 8217
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Originally Posted by Sgooter View Post

What setting did you change to medium?

color temperature. I'm not a fan or warm.
post #7401 of 8217
Is it just me, or does the OTA programming guide suck on this tv? I can only get it to display about 12 hours of programming and usually only on the channel that I am watching at that moment....
post #7402 of 8217
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Originally Posted by Sgooter View Post

OK, I'll work toward getting a new cable box, per your, COMPUTIAC's, and NLN987S' suggestions - though it won't be soon...a lot of programs still to watch on the DVR.
This SA 8300HDC cable box has always been reliable, and it worked perfectly with a new Vizio 3D TV that I returned 2 weeks ago in favor of the LW5600.
Thanks folks - much appreciated.

My "no TV audio at turn on" problem is fixed. Per suggestions and comments from NLN987S, COMPUTIAC, sdjhome, and flex727, I replaced the SA8300HDC cable box this weekend. The new box is a Cisco 8642HDC and the TV audio now works perfectly. Thanks again to all.
post #7403 of 8217
I'm still waiting for the 55" to go on sale locally It looks like online it has been as low as $1370 but locally $1599 is about the best I can find.
post #7404 of 8217
Looks like you can order it from best buy and then have it shipped to the store for that price. Does that work? I am still in the same boat too. I don't think it will go too much lower then it is now. I don't have any Fry's near me, so my only option is Best Buy or the local store for $1599 too. I could do the 5700 from Costco or wait an see if any of the e 2012 models will have any good deals.
post #7405 of 8217
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Originally Posted by da9lsintegra View Post

color temperature. I'm not a fan or warm.

Medium is too BLUE - basically messing up the greyscale & classic Black & White movies like Casablanca, etc..

ISF Calibrator's will immediately choose WARM (some sets term = Theater) prior to calibrating the primary colors using their color analyzer. (CNET Labs uses Sencore's CP5000 color analyzer to calibrate the color temperature).

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The following is from Home Theater.com ...

Color Temperature

Temperature, measured in degrees Kelvin, represents the hue and intensity of the light source in which the images are seen. Light sources play an important role in how we see color, so temperature affects the entire palette of colors on the screen. Generally you should select the warm or low setting for the closest temperature to NTSC standard of 65,000 Kelvin.

Most of us will not invest in a $4,000.00 Color Analyzer, so a simple consumer choice is to Calibrate the Color & Tint using a calibration Blu-ray disc like Digital Video Essentials HD Basic or similar calibration disc that includes the necessary color filters & test patterns to calibrate the HDTV to the NTSC standard of 6,500 Kelvin.

Better yet, find a reputable HDTV review website like Home Theater.com or CNet that reviewed your HDTV model of choice and copy their Video Calibration results based on their test equipment. Great way to save $250 - $400 ISF Calibration cost!

I did that with my 55LW5600 using Home Theater.com 2D & 3D Video Calibration values, verified the picture with my Digital Video Essentials HD Basic disc, color filters / test screen and have been enjoying my NTSC Calibrated display ever since.

All TV broadcast & Movie Studio's create their product viewing a NTSC standard 6,500 Kelvin Calibrated screen / display. So, if you want to experience the same Director's view (color or black & white), calibrating your home HDTV to the same NTSC standard 6,500 Kelvin is a no-brainer.
post #7406 of 8217
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Originally Posted by grif32 View Post

I first bought the LG 55LW5600 but I couldn't get past all the lag issue's, clouding etc. I then purchased the ST30 and it blows the LW5600 out of the water for gaming and PQ IMHO and it's far from. My ST30 does not have the green phospher trail BS going on . It's a perfect TV for me. Not bashing the LW5600 but LED is just not for me. Gaming on the ST30 is awesome colors "Pop" and games like Uncharted look like a movie more then a game.. I now own 4 Panny Plasma's but I did give LED a try.

3D did look good on the LW560 on it but to many issue's for me to keep.

However, my brother just bought this set a couple days ago and he says the clouding is pretty bad. He updated the FW to the latest and used the settings someone posted here. He has his PS3 hooked up to it and can not stand the lag on it for gaming.

Is there anyway to improve it or is this the best it will do for gaming and clouding? I was trying to read through this thread and someone stated the latest FW fixed the lag for gaming but he said he has the latest FW. I am going over tonight to help him try to fix his issues with the TV before he takes it back.

Any help would be great.

Like I said I am not bashing this set it just wasn't right for me at the time. Hopefully there are settings he might be missing to help with the issue's..

Thanks

It's a good thing you state multiple times that you're not bashing this set. Anyone reading your post would think otherwise and perhaps think you're a troll. PQ, lag, clouding, some crappy plasma blows it out of the water..... are those the good points? You come into a thread 250 pages long to critique the bad points? What a joke.
post #7407 of 8217
I have already posted this question in the LW5700 thread but thought I ask it here as well.

Need some help, have used service menu to turn on DVR option on the LW5700 but I need to know how to start a recording since the remote does not have a "Rec" button. I have a harmony remote (628) so if some one has the codes for the DVR commands I can program them inot the harmony. Other option would be to set the harmony to an LW6500, would the normal 6500 commands work on a 5700?

Any help most welcome
post #7408 of 8217
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Originally Posted by grdunbar View Post

I have already posted this question in the LW5700 thread but thought I ask it here as well.

Need some help, have used service menu to turn on DVR option on the LW5700 but I need to know how to start a recording since the remote does not have a "Rec" button. I have a harmony remote (628) so if some one has the codes for the DVR commands I can program them inot the harmony. Other option would be to set the harmony to an LW6500, would the normal 6500 commands work on a 5700?

Any help most welcome

This is from the 6500 forums, the thread search tool is your friend. Just search for DVR in the lw5600, 5700 and 6500 forums.
Good luck
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Originally Posted by khjr
Anyone know where I can find information on operating the DVR Time Machine option? I've unlocked it and have been messing around trying to set up recording shows but would like the official operating instructions to read thru? Any LG owner manual that may contain this?

Thanks
The Singapore LG support page has DVR instructions - go to this url and search for e.g. 55LW6500:

http://www.lg.com/sg/support/product...rt-product.jsp
post #7409 of 8217
I just tried that link to Singapore LG and got "We are sorry. The page you requested does not exist" ?
post #7410 of 8217
Questions regarding the DVR function:

All i need to do is put my external HDD into one of the USB outlets for this to record correct?

Does this record TV shows that stream from a cable box through an HDMI into my TV? Or does the cable signal have to go directly into the TV's Coax input?
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