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post #7591 of 8097
3/31/12 at 7:32am
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Originally Posted by Sgooter View Post

badlands7,
Star Trek quote: "Resistance is futile."
When I need to exchange my STB's, I go in person to the customer service department at the cable company's local branch office, and politely tell them what box I want, and I don't leave until I get it. Maybe they'll give you a new box to try out for a few days without having to surrender your SA box. My cable company is Brighthouse (aka TWC), and they do not use the Cisco 8642HDC box for whole house DVR.
Exchanging the cable box as the "proven solution" may also be your only way of confirming whether you need to return/repair the TV.
Good luck.


badlands7,


Excellent advice !

There have also been others who have resisted in the past(as you have read). When they finally woke up to reality and saw the light(or heard the sound)the shock and awe was amazing.

Now, these same people who resisted, give the same advice to the next person, to try to show them the light.

Resistance is not worth the wait.
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post #7592 of 8097
3/31/12 at 3:14pm
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Originally Posted by lanzemurdok View Post

I don't know why i didn't do this before, but i finally managed to get my tv to have as little input lag as possible. For the longest i had it under the "pc input" label thinking that is the best mode to have it under. On a random night i decided to start playing around with it yet again and i selected game mode under input, game mode under picture settings and game mode on "av mode" under quick settings. after testing it everything felt more responsive. The weird thing is that i know i've done those settings before but i guess i didn't pay attention to them. It might just be me but it feels wayyyyy better compared to pc input. To prove it i have a link of me testing it out. I know that it isn't entirely 0ms lag but it's low enough to not notice it. Anybody getting these results?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_hV8...H3xm_ROeBg-Ww=

I've recently started to wonder if the way people are switching to "Game Mode" might be making the difference in the various experiences. When you use the AV button to select Game mode it's true that it also changes the Picture Mode to "Game" but you can also switch the picture mode to Game WITHOUT switching the AV Mode to Game. I've always switched to the game mode using the AV Mode button and haven't experienced lag issues when I do. I wonder if other users aren't using the AV Mode, but changing the Picture Mode directly instead. It might explain why the AV Mode button is even there, since at first it seems redundant and doesn't offer many choices. Just a theory.
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post #7593 of 8097
3/31/12 at 5:21pm
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Originally Posted by Sgooter View Post

badlands7,
Star Trek quote: "Resistance is futile."
When I need to exchange my STB's, I go in person to the customer service department at the cable company's local branch office, and politely tell them what box I want, and I don't leave until I get it. Maybe they'll give you a new box to try out for a few days without having to surrender your SA box. My cable company is Brighthouse (aka TWC), and they do not use the Cisco 8642HDC box for whole house DVR.
Exchanging the cable box as the "proven solution" may also be your only way of confirming whether you need to return/repair the TV.
Good luck.

Thanks, guys! I guess I will try to get a Cisco box. My local suburban office says they never get any, so I will probably have to make a 50 mile round trip trek, but it will be worth it if it works (and I have double the hard drive). BTW, from what I've heard, the 8742 box is the best, followed by the 8642 and then the 8640.

Even if it works, doesn't that still indicate an issue with the TVs' HDMI if boxes that work on other TVs don't work on this one?
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post #7594 of 8097
3/31/12 at 5:59pm
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Originally Posted by MentalDistortion View Post

that is a nice score, but the other team is lagged out, while your team all has green bars. not only that, but the other team is full of split screeners, and one on your team. i remember when i used to play mw3, the team that had more splitscreeners always lost. i'm sure you are a good player, but are you sure that there is ZERO LAG input? just curious what are your overall stats? i sold mw3 awhile back, the aim assist on consoles and spawn points made it too easy to rack up kills, plus the fact that the knife is stronger than a bullet close range never made much sense to me.

i used to be a hardcore gamer a few years ago, mainly counter-strike on the pc because i couldnt stand the p2p for console games.
don't get me wrong, i do enjoy FPS games, but i'm more into the fighters like SF, MvC, SfxTekken and having minimal lag input is pretty important.

i think the tv is very nice for watching movies, but i havent seen a led tv that has ZERO lag as you claim.

I never said the other team was good... just that it was my highest kills in TDM since playing COD 2.

And I'm not sure of absolute "zero" lag. But I'm not lagging like I guess most are. Not even close. The TV before this one was a 42" Samsung Plasma, HP-T4264. And I see/feel NO difference. Anyways, I already made a video... http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...postcount=7557
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post #7595 of 8097
3/31/12 at 6:24pm
not sure if mentioned already, posting just in case.

Xbox 360 + 55LW5700, I still had lag issues after setting game\\game\\game on input 3.

It was the TV size set in Xbox that was causing the lag

-I had to set Xbox to auto-detect\\discover tv settings.
-Then went to tv size, and forced it to detect size.

XBox found my tv at 7" <-
Lag gone.
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post #7596 of 8097
3/31/12 at 8:27pm
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Originally Posted by jmh32 View Post

not sure if mentioned already, posting just in case.

Xbox 360 + 55LW5700, I still had lag issues after setting game\\game\\game on input 3.

It was the TV size set in Xbox that was causing the lag

-I had to set Xbox to auto-detect\\discover tv settings.
-Then went to tv size, and forced it to detect size.

XBox found my tv at 7" <-
Lag gone.

That wasn't it....


My tv detects 47 just fine and RB3 is at 75 ms video and 117 ms audio at BEST
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post #7597 of 8097
4/1/12 at 8:24am
I have run into a little glitch and I need to enlist the help of you guys here.

My setup - Htpc w/radeon 7600 connected to my 55lw5600 running windows 7 with media center.

Today I went to watch home videos and it feels like I have a strobe light on. They are very jumpy. I tried checking settings and can't isolate the problem. At 1080p my video card defaulted to 1080/24. My tv is setup with trumotion off and real cinema on.

I don't remember changing anything and I feel like my home videos used to play ok, although I've only had this tv for 2 months.

If anyone has any recommendations I would really appreciate it (tv or video card settings). I also do not want to have to switch settings back and forth when I watch home videos vs watching blu rays and 3d blu rays if possible. Thanks!
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post #7598 of 8097
4/1/12 at 10:32am
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Originally Posted by QuadraQ View Post

I've recently started to wonder if the way people are switching to "Game Mode" might be making the difference in the various experiences. When you use the AV button to select Game mode it's true that it also changes the Picture Mode to "Game" but you can also switch the picture mode to Game WITHOUT switching the AV Mode to Game. I've always switched to the game mode using the AV Mode button and haven't experienced lag issues when I do. I wonder if other users aren't using the AV Mode, but changing the Picture Mode directly instead. It might explain why the AV Mode button is even there, since at first it seems redundant and doesn't offer many choices. Just a theory.

With controller lag a non issue with you, how can you stand the choppiness when moving around with Game mode on? "Without" Trumotion on, its like watching a slideshow, not smooth at ALL. I can live with a little lag but this set produces some of the choppiest gameplay I have ever expierenced.
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post #7599 of 8097
4/1/12 at 11:52am
anyone have good calibration picture settings?
i'm using the televisioninfo settings and they seem too soft and warm for me.
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post #7600 of 8097
4/1/12 at 5:00pm
Anyone with an HP Touchpad running CM9 have any luck getting LGs android app working? It works on my HTC Inspire running ICS.
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post #7601 of 8097
4/1/12 at 10:15pm
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Originally Posted by harpo1 View Post

Anyone with an HP Touchpad running CM9 have any luck getting LGs android app working? It works on my HTC Inspire running ICS.


I haven't gotten it to work either. It just force closes. However I have to think that the phone is better for what it does anyway, smaller trackpad for the cursor.

For anyone who hasn't tried the LG android app, it is surprising useful. It can be a bit buggy, but when it works, it's pretty cool. I was able to use the browser to surf the web with some friends over almost as well as using a laptop.
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post #7602 of 8097
4/2/12 at 4:37am
how is the PQ between the lw5600 and the lm6700 models?

is there a BIG difference in PQ in 2d and 3d? i don't care about the built in hulu or netflix. all i care about is the 2d and 3d PQ from blurays.

Thanks
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post #7603 of 8097
4/2/12 at 6:59am
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Originally Posted by jmh32 View Post

not sure if mentioned already, posting just in case.

Xbox 360 + 55LW5700, I still had lag issues after setting game\\game\\game on input 3.

It was the TV size set in Xbox that was causing the lag

-I had to set Xbox to auto-detect\\discover tv settings.
-Then went to tv size, and forced it to detect size.

XBox found my tv at 7" <-
Lag gone.

Are you saying you left it at the 7" setting? I was recently in the settings as well and when I saw that I forced it to a 55" setting. I haven't done any gaming since then so I can't say if it has had any effect. I wasn't seeing any lag prior to that.
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post #7604 of 8097
4/2/12 at 8:20am
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Originally Posted by MelonSplitter View Post

With controller lag a non issue with you, how can you stand the choppiness when moving around with Game mode on? "Without" Trumotion on, its like watching a slideshow, not smooth at ALL. I can live with a little lag but this set produces some of the choppiest gameplay I have ever expierenced.

I haven't really noticed any "choppiness" when playing games. The set always runs at 120 hz. Trumotion is just adding more frames to reduce blur and judder. I suppose it could depend on what kind of game you are playing. When playing Batman: Arkham City, Super Street Fighter IV, Uncharted 3, etc. I haven't noticed what your describing. Then again in a FPS I might, I just don't care for that type of game.
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post #7605 of 8097
4/2/12 at 9:09am
can someone pls educate me on the LG 3D tv models. I am interested in Passive 3D so I got a 55 vizio from costco. I am not very happy with it and the fact that it does not convert 2D into 3D plus I find that it takes a while from pressing the tv on button for it to actualy display images around 15-20 sec. is this normal?

So I am looking for LG passive tv's now. 55" which is last years model and which is this years model. Can Ii get the LG 55 3D for under $1400.

Any general problems with the Lg 3d sets?
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post #7606 of 8097
4/2/12 at 11:50am
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Originally Posted by MentalDistortion View Post

how is the PQ between the lw5600 and the lm6700 models?

is there a BIG difference in PQ in 2d and 3d? i don't care about the built in hulu or netflix. all i care about is the 2d and 3d PQ from blurays.

Thanks

I have the 5600 and checked out the 6700 the other day. I found there to be little difference and it is more than likely going to give you similar picture, which would be very good on HD. Remember, the greatest weakness on this TV is SD which is average at best. Other than that, it is one of the best values out there.
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post #7607 of 8097
4/2/12 at 12:22pm
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Originally Posted by braves22 View Post

That wasn't it....


My tv detects 47 just fine and RB3 is at 75 ms video and 117 ms audio at BEST

Exactly. I'm using the 55", latest FW. This TV is crap for hardcore gaming. I love the TV for everything else, but the best I've ever been able to get is 77 ms for video. Using RB3 with RB2 guitar for auto calibrate is the only true way to measure this.

I spent about an hour the other day doing all sorts of tests, HDMI 2/3, Label input from PC to Game, took screenshots of my timings. I got it down to 77 ms and was the best I could attain and I'm begrudgingly okay with that. My settings were "HDMI 2 (Labeled Game) / Picture mode (Game) / AV mode (Game)". Yesterday I was playing Gears of War 3 and couldn't active reload for anything. I knew I was getting input lag. I fired up RockBand and it read 146 ms!

You know how I got back to 77ms?

I "rebooted the TV" (Turned it off and back on). I didn't do anything else. I guess everytime I want to game I'll need to play the rock band calibration game. Or once I've rebooted the TV and see that that fixes it enough times. I'll just reboot before each gaming session.
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post #7608 of 8097
4/2/12 at 2:16pm
So I finally got around to manually installing the latest firmware update from the website. I had been waiting, hoping my tv would detect that there is a firmware update eventually. My tv never detected it, so I just downloaded it to an SD card and followed the instructions on the website.

The update went without any problems. And now, my LG TV Remote app works fine. Equally as important, the LG Service Menu Explorer app also works fine, and I turned on the TXH.

For anyone having trouble getting the LG app to connect to the TV, manually update the firmware, and it should fix it.
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post #7609 of 8097
4/2/12 at 2:57pm
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Originally Posted by Falkinator View Post


Exactly. I'm using the 55", latest FW. This TV is crap for hardcore gaming. I love the TV for everything else, but the best I've ever been able to get is 77 ms for video. Using RB3 with RB2 guitar for auto calibrate is the only true way to measure this.

I spent about an hour the other day doing all sorts of tests, HDMI 2/3, Label input from PC to Game, took screenshots of my timings. I got it down to 77 ms and was the best I could attain and I'm begrudgingly okay with that. My settings were "HDMI 2 (Labeled Game) / Picture mode (Game) / AV mode (Game)". Yesterday I was playing Gears of War 3 and couldn't active reload for anything. I knew I was getting input lag. I fired up RockBand and it read 146 ms!

You know how I got back to 77ms?

I "rebooted the TV" (Turned it off and back on). I didn't do anything else. I guess everytime I want to game I'll need to play the rock band calibration game. Or once I've rebooted the TV and see that that fixes it enough times. I'll just reboot before each gaming session.

Well if it makes you feel any better I think I'm the only person working extremely hard on altering and changing things to try and get good solid numbers through RB...

We will see what shakes out as I am still doing quite a bit more testing to see what I can come up with....

The couple things I have found to be certain myths...

MYTH: PC mode makes for less lag....utter crapola!

MYTH: HDMI3 is the input that allows for the least lag....GARBAGE I tell you! All the inputs played just as nice and just as mean....


But like I said, still working on it
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post #7610 of 8097
4/2/12 at 7:53pm
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Originally Posted by QuadraQ View Post

I haven't really noticed any "choppiness" when playing games. The set always runs at 120 hz. Trumotion is just adding more frames to reduce blur and judder. I suppose it could depend on what kind of game you are playing. When playing Batman: Arkham City, Super Street Fighter IV, Uncharted 3, etc. I haven't noticed what your describing. Then again in a FPS I might, I just don't care for that type of game.

Uncharted 3 is the game I'm talking about. Are you serious! No chopiness or studder while turning? There has got to be something wrong with my set or my settings. I'm using source:Game, A/V:Game. What other settings are there. I will try and make a video to post.
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post #7611 of 8097
4/2/12 at 9:27pm
Anyone having any Netflix app issues? I had to input my login info again for some reason tonight. Now it no longer shows if the movies are HD or not when browsing and movies that I know have 5.1 audio no longer show any audio options. They look to be HD when playing back but no 5.1 anymore. It worked fine a few nights ago.
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post #7612 of 8097
4/2/12 at 10:24pm
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Originally Posted by jaymerkramer View Post

Anyone having any Netflix app issues? I had to input my login info again for some reason tonight. Now it no longer shows if the movies are HD or not when browsing and movies that I know have 5.1 audio no longer show any audio options. They look to be HD when playing back but no 5.1 anymore. It worked fine a few nights ago.

Over on the Sony 590S blue ray player thread they were saying that the problem is on Netflix end. Same issues you are having.
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post #7613 of 8097
4/3/12 at 9:05am
so far there's no choppy or frame lag on my tv while playing BF3.
HDMI 1 set to game mode with trumotion off.
going to test out uncharted 3 this week.

bluray 3d mkv files, divx, mp4, etc. all work great directly from a usb thumb and hard drive.
DLNA with playstaiton media server works great too. can't fastforward tho.
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post #7614 of 8097
4/3/12 at 6:29pm
Anyone try to enable the DVR feature? I'm worried it might brick the tv
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post #7615 of 8097
4/4/12 at 4:10am
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Originally Posted by jaymerkramer View Post

Anyone having any Netflix app issues? I had to input my login info again for some reason tonight. Now it no longer shows if the movies are HD or not when browsing and movies that I know have 5.1 audio no longer show any audio options. They look to be HD when playing back but no 5.1 anymore. It worked fine a few nights ago.

I have been having problems playing anything in HD with 5.1 audio from Netflix since around March 20. The audio drops out and the picture freezes and then it might resume playing only to do it again. It happens over and over and since I stream with my LG LHB536 HTIB I thought it was the problem because the problem did not start until just after a firmware update. Reading this I do not know what the problem is, but my other setup in my bedroom that uses a Panasonic BDT210 to stream has not had any issues.
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post #7616 of 8097
4/4/12 at 6:40am
Are you using wifi? I've found the wifi adapter for the lg is very inconsistent. Set static ip address and use an ethernet cable if you can.
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post #7617 of 8097
4/4/12 at 12:07pm
So are we getting voice control?

http://www.engadget.com/2012/04/04/v...agi/#continued
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post #7618 of 8097
4/4/12 at 2:36pm
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Originally Posted by madpoet View Post

So are we getting voice control?

http://www.engadget.com/2012/04/04/v...agi/#continued

This is an April Fools day bit right? That commercial was terrible and the text on the screen makes no sense. Let alone the mention of a "mocrophone".
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post #7619 of 8097
4/5/12 at 7:07am
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Originally Posted by talk show host View Post

Anyone try to enable the DVR feature? I'm worried it might brick the tv

I have it enabled, and it's just as easy to do as any of the other service menu hacks.

The DVR now appears on the TV menus, but I haven't tried it yet because (1) I don't have a spare USB HDD, and (2) it wants to format any HDD I attach to the TV. Need to buy a spare HDD.

Jim
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post #7620 of 8097
4/6/12 at 8:06pm
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Originally Posted by COMPUTIAC View Post

badlands7,
There have also been others who have resisted in the past(as you have read). When they finally woke up to reality and saw the light(or heard the sound)the shock and awe was amazing.

Now, these same people who resisted, give the same advice to the next person, to try to show them the light.

Resistance is not worth the wait.

Okay, you guys were right!

I was able to get the new Cisco 8742 box from Time Warner (it's so hard to get these things, you'd think they were gold plated!) and the "no audio" issue is gone, baby, gone.

Now that issue is apparently resolved, I have another one. The TV arrived with a few dents on the back (there was no box damage, so it was definitely shipped that way). I probably would have exchanged it immediately, but they were already out of stock by the time I received it. The dents themselves aren't a huge concern (although annoying on a new TV). However, on black screens, there is some light leakage on the top right of the screen where the dents are. Is this something warranty service would come out and fix?
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