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post #1411 of 8349
4/5/11 at 9:37am
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OK I have them on my computer, Now call me stupid what's next ? Heck I don't know what to do with them.........
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4/5/11 at 9:43am
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OK I have them on my computer, Now call me stupid what's next ? Heck I don't know what to do with them.........
The easiest way to use them is to upload them onto a clean usb stick. Once you do that plug them into your tv's usb port, click viera tools on your remote, open media player, open photos, press the red button on your remote to open slideshow options, set interval to slow, and start the slideshow.

The default is set on repeated playback. Once you start the slideshow it will safely loop all 20 images as long as you leave it running.

If you are using D-Nice's calibration recipe DO NOT forget to adjust the picture settings for panel prep. You can find those settings in his HDJ thread. You can find the thread by googling it.
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post #1413 of 8349
4/5/11 at 12:16pm
Picked up the 55" st30 last night from Fry's. I'll give my thoughts but remember I'm just a guy that likes a quality tv and I don't go into any technical details. I haven't even changed any settings out of the box cause it just looks so nice as it sits.

So far I'm very impressed. It was kinda heavy and it looks really thin to me. Of course the tv it's replacing is an almost 6 years old 42" toshiba lcd that was wide as hell. The stand is very sturdy and it doesn't swivel but I'm okay with that because it so well made. Black levels look amazing to me. I really never had any black levels on the old toshiba. Everything was just a dark gray but I didn't really ever notice it. Now looking at a true black on the tv looks kinda weird but I like it.

3d looks amazing as well. I watched Tangled last night and I was really impressed by the tv as well as the movie. I am not new to 3d. I have a computer that is using nvidia 3d vision and a 120hz monitor and so far I'm going to have to say panasonic does a better job on 3d than my nvidia kit.
There seemed to be more depth using the panasonic and objects seemed to be able to come in more like you could almost touch it.

I do have one annoying issue though. It looks like panasonic has some kind of automatic brightness adjustment. I'm not sure what it is but I'll notice that the picture will all of a sudden get brighter or darker depending on the scene. It is noticeable to me when it happens and it kind of annoys me. Is there any way to turn it off?
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post #1414 of 8349
4/5/11 at 12:18pm
I believe its the CATS that does that you can turn it off. I use custom mode so I can turn all that crap off like auto brigthness in dark scenes.
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4/5/11 at 12:32pm
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Originally Posted by Oilfieldtrash View Post

Picked up the 55" st30 last night from Fry's. I'll give my thoughts but remember I'm just a guy that likes a quality tv and I don't go into any technical details. I haven't even changed any settings out of the box cause it just looks so nice as it sits.

So far I'm very impressed. It was kinda heavy and it looks really thin to me. Of course the tv it's replacing is an almost 6 years old 42" toshiba lcd that was wide as hell. The stand is very sturdy and it doesn't swivel but I'm okay with that because it so well made. Black levels look amazing to me. I really never had any black levels on the old toshiba. Everything was just a dark gray but I didn't really ever notice it. Now looking at a true black on the tv looks kinda weird but I like it.

3d looks amazing as well. I watched Tangled last night and I was really impressed by the tv as well as the movie. I am not new to 3d. I have a computer that is using nvidia 3d vision and a 120hz monitor and so far I'm going to have to say panasonic does a better job on 3d than my nvidia kit.
There seemed to be more depth using the panasonic and objects seemed to be able to come in more like you could almost touch it.

I do have one annoying issue though. It looks like panasonic has some kind of automatic brightness adjustment. I'm not sure what it is but I'll notice that the picture will all of a sudden get brighter or darker depending on the scene. It is noticeable to me when it happens and it kind of annoys me. Is there any way to turn it off?

I wonder if youre witnessing the floating blacks that are still present in 3d.

Are you located in North America? If so, how would you judge the 3d picture in terms of crosstalk? Based on the review I linked above, there is little to no crosstalk on the North American st30 model.
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post #1416 of 8349
4/5/11 at 12:37pm
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Originally Posted by Lord_Spanky View Post

You are witnessing floating blacks I believe. Last years models all had floating blacks in 2d and 3d. It seems to be fixed in 2d on the st30, but they still exist in 3d from what i read. I dont think there is anything that can be done about it.

Are you located in North America? If so, how would you judge the 3d picture in terms of crosstalk? Based on the review I linked above, there is little to no crosstalk on the North American st30 model.

No it's the whole screen gets brighter or darker not just the blacks. It was also happening in 2d mode. I'm in North America and as far as crosstalk I did notice very little to none. I just watched one 3d movie so far but it looked great to me.
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4/5/11 at 12:37pm
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Originally Posted by Lord_Spanky View Post

The easiest way to use them is to upload them onto a clean usb stick. Once you do that plug them into your tv's usb port, click viera tools on your remote, open media player, open photos, press the red button on your remote to open slideshow options, set interval to slow, and start the slideshow.

The default is set on repeated playback. Once you start the slideshow it will safely loop all 20 images as long as you leave it running.

If you are using D-Nice's calibration recipe DO NOT forget to adjust the picture settings for panel prep. You can find those settings in his HDJ thread. You can find the thread by googling it.

I don't feel stupid anymore, I will purchase a new usb stick and follow the instructions you have provided, YES! Thank YOU for your help!

Are all D-Nice's setting's accesible thru myTV?

Thank you for all your help, !!!!!!!
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post #1418 of 8349
4/5/11 at 12:41pm
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Originally Posted by Oilfieldtrash View Post

No it's the whole screen gets brighter or darker not just the blacks. It was also happening in 2d mode. I'm in North America and as far as crosstalk I did notice very little to none. I just watched one 3d movie so far but it looked great to me.

Oh, I see. Yeah, I was confused about that. I think I remember this issue being covered previously in this thread. Did the CATS suggestion work?

Your report of little to no crosstalk is similar to the hdguru review.
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post #1419 of 8349
4/5/11 at 12:43pm
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Originally Posted by Double16 View Post

I don't feel stupid anymore, I will purchase a new usb stick and follow the instructions you have provided, YES! Thank YOU for your help!

Are all D-Nice's setting's accesible thru myTV?

Thank you for all your help, !!!!!!!

Accessible through your tv?

What do you mean by this?

D-nice has posted calibration settings for a variety of panasonic plasma models to date. There are calibration settings/instructions specific to the north american st30 model on HDJ.
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post #1420 of 8349
4/5/11 at 1:09pm
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Originally Posted by MASKOAA View Post

I believe its the CATS that does that you can turn it off. I use custom mode so I can turn all that crap off like auto brigthness in dark scenes.

It'd be nice if it was that simple.
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post #1421 of 8349
4/5/11 at 1:11pm
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Originally Posted by SRrobin981 View Post

It'd be nice if it was that simple.

?? It is..
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post #1422 of 8349
4/5/11 at 1:30pm
Can someone tell me if it's normal for a bright white dot in the very upper left hand corner to be there when running scrolling bar?
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post #1423 of 8349
4/5/11 at 1:34pm
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Originally Posted by Oilfieldtrash View Post

Can someone tell me if it's normal for a bright white dot in the very upper left hand corner to be there when running scrolling bar?

Yep, it's normal
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post #1424 of 8349
4/5/11 at 1:36pm
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Originally Posted by Lord_Spanky View Post

Yep, it's normal

So this is on all panny plasma's?
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post #1425 of 8349
4/5/11 at 1:41pm
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Originally Posted by Oilfieldtrash View Post

So this is on all panny plasma's?

It is on my current st30 and my previous one. Several others have reported the same thing on their st30s. Its normal for st30s I believe.
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post #1426 of 8349
4/5/11 at 1:48pm
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Originally Posted by Lord_Spanky View Post

It is on my current st30 and my previous one. Several others have reported the same thing on their st30s. Its normal for st30s I believe.

Thanks so much. My heart dropped when I spotted that dot. I bought it locally but still loading the tv up, a 20 mile trip one way, and then dealing with Fry's horrid customer service was not on the top of to do list. Now it's more tv time. Cant wait for football season.
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4/5/11 at 1:58pm
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Originally Posted by Oilfieldtrash View Post

Thanks so much. My heart dropped when I spotted that dot. I bought it locally but still loading the tv up, a 20 mile trip one way, and then dealing with Fry's horrid customer service was not on the top of to do list. Now it's more tv time. Cant wait for football season.

Just try to remember that perfect panels are the exception, not the rule.

However, the white dot thing is normal. It seems to me like you got a winner with your purchase.

Cheers and enjoy
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post #1428 of 8349
4/5/11 at 3:18pm
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Originally Posted by SRrobin981 View Post

It'd be nice if it was that simple.

It is. It's a menu option you set to OFF

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Originally Posted by Oilfieldtrash View Post

Can someone tell me if it's normal for a bright white dot in the very upper left hand corner to be there when running scrolling bar?

Yes, it's normal.
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post #1429 of 8349
4/5/11 at 4:27pm
According to another web site that gave a review of the st30. they said that Custom mode is the only mode that allows adjustment of all the picture controls.
is this true
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post #1430 of 8349
4/5/11 at 5:41pm
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Originally Posted by tazz3 View Post

According to another web site that gave a review of the st30. they said that Custom mode is the only mode that allows adjustment of all the picture controls.
is this true

Its the only mode that includes black level, gamma, panel brightness, and some moderate white balance control. They are in the Pro menu, which is greyed out in the other picture modes.

If you know what you are doing I suppose you can adjust those things in any picture mode so long as youre willing to use the service menu to do it.

All picture modes contain basic picture controls such as color, tint, contrast, brightness, and sharpness.
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post #1431 of 8349
4/5/11 at 5:46pm
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Originally Posted by MASKOAA View Post

?? It is..

Gosh, so many ways to follow up on this one.

Finally, somebody did it. Maskoaa just solved the issue that has caused so much head-scratching among AVS users and spawned YouTube videos and apparently a class-action lawsuit - or attempt - or threat. I dunno -- I didn't really investigate that one (Maybe that was designed rising black levels).

Heck, I keep waiting for Ms. Marie Antoinette to be fitted with a straightjacket over unstable luminance plaguing Panasonic plasmas. Just turn off CATS and all of those pesky floating blacks stop floating and all of that fluctuating brightness stops, um, fluctuating.

Less over-the-top response: Meaning turning off CATS does not necessarily solve the issue. This is not exactly news. This topic - "floating blacks"/"fluctuating brightness" - is what got me hooked again on AVS after five years off.
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post #1432 of 8349
4/5/11 at 6:01pm
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Originally Posted by SRrobin981 View Post

Gosh, so many ways to follow up on this one.

Finally, somebody did it. Maskoaa just solved the issue that has caused so much head-scratching among AVS users and spawned YouTube videos and apparently a class-action lawsuit - or attempt - or threat. I dunno -- I didn't really investigate that one (Maybe that was designed rising black levels).

Heck, I keep waiting for Ms. Marie Antoinette to be fitted with a straightjacket over unstable luminance plaguing Panasonic plasmas. Just turn off CATS and all of those pesky floating blacks stop floating and all of that fluctuating brightness stops, um, fluctuating.

Less over-the-top response: Meaning turning off CATS does not necessarily solve the issue. This is not exactly news. This topic - "floating blacks"/"fluctuating brightness" - is what got me hooked again on AVS after five years off.

Dude, what are you going off on? You can stop the TV from dimming itself when the lights go out with a menu option. Neither he nor I said you will fix floating blacks/brightness by doing this. You are confused. OilField said he wants to turn off the automatic dimming when the ambient lighting is dimmed. That is done through the menus.
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post #1433 of 8349
4/5/11 at 6:39pm
I don't even know why Panasonic has the C.A.T.S. option on the tv. It makes no sense.
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post #1434 of 8349
4/5/11 at 6:44pm
Got my new ST30 today in, and everything that wasn't working on the old item, works perfectly now! i'll add that once again, it was delivered by a single person from Pilot.

However, I have a new strange issue - two actually.

#1 There is a dead pixel on green slides, but none on any of the other colors.
#2 The green slides show a light blob of discoloration in the middle of the screen. The other colors are uniform.

Anyone know what's going on and how serious this is?
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post #1435 of 8349
4/5/11 at 6:55pm
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Originally Posted by humphrey11 View Post

Got my new ST30 today in, and everything that wasn't working on the old item, works perfectly now! i'll add that once again, it was delivered by a single person from Pilot.

However, I have a new strange issue - two actually.

#1 There is a dead pixel on green slides, but none on any of the other colors.
#2 The green slides show a light blob of discoloration in the middle of the screen. The other colors are uniform.

Anyone know what's going on and how serious this is?

I dont consider it serious, and in fact, these types of defects are all too common. Returning the unit for such defects has a high likelyhood of getting similar or same defects on the next one.

My last st30 had a dead pixel, and my current st30 has a defective pixel like yours.

Your pixel is dead on green slides because the green sub-pixel is most likely dead.

My defective pixel has a dead red sub pixel. this leads to normal blue, normal green, black on red, and light blue on white.

Im guessing yours has normal red, normal blue, black on green, and purple on white.

My last st30 had a totally dead pixel.

Panasonic considers a certain number of defective pixels to be within normal spec.

Unfortunately, as buyers, such things are always upsetting and we dont usually feel the same way they do. Fortunately, a single defective pixel is nearly impossible to spot in normal viewing from a normal viewing distance, even if youre looking for it.

My last st30 had uniformity issues in the form of blobs. This one does not, but it does have mild verticle banding. Your blobs may get better as the panel ages. See if you notice it in normal viewing. I would guess it doesnt show up. My verticle banding only shows up on color slides, so did the blobs on the last set for the most part.
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post #1436 of 8349
4/5/11 at 7:53pm
So I purchased a 55st30 on march 28 from panasonics website, at first my receipt said "will ship in 7-10 days" and now shows "this item is on backorder" has anyone had experience with panasonic backorders and what kind of time table im looking at?

Only reason I ask here is panasonics CostumerService online and by phone both have only stated " we will inform you week to week until your item ships"

Thanks
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post #1437 of 8349
4/5/11 at 7:57pm
It could be a few weeks or it could be a lot long given the recent events in Japan.
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post #1438 of 8349
4/5/11 at 8:33pm
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Originally Posted by sheshechic View Post

It could be a few weeks or it could be a lot long given the recent events in Japan.

Well I suppose it will be a nice surprise when it shows up out of the blue
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post #1439 of 8349
4/6/11 at 6:49am
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Originally Posted by SRrobin981 View Post

Gosh, so many ways to follow up on this one.

Finally, somebody did it. Maskoaa just solved the issue that has caused so much head-scratching among AVS users and spawned YouTube videos and apparently a class-action lawsuit - or attempt - or threat. I dunno -- I didn't really investigate that one (Maybe that was designed rising black levels).

Heck, I keep waiting for Ms. Marie Antoinette to be fitted with a straightjacket over unstable luminance plaguing Panasonic plasmas. Just turn off CATS and all of those pesky floating blacks stop floating and all of that fluctuating brightness stops, um, fluctuating.

Less over-the-top response: Meaning turning off CATS does not necessarily solve the issue. This is not exactly news. This topic - "floating blacks"/"fluctuating brightness" - is what got me hooked again on AVS after five years off.

Since the "issue" you're going on about has not been observable in the st30 line so far, the evidence supports MASKOAA on this one.
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4/6/11 at 7:00am
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Originally Posted by SRrobin981 View Post

Gosh, so many ways to follow up on this one.

Finally, somebody did it. Maskoaa just solved the issue that has caused so much head-scratching among AVS users and spawned YouTube videos and apparently a class-action lawsuit - or attempt - or threat. I dunno -- I didn't really investigate that one (Maybe that was designed rising black levels).

Heck, I keep waiting for Ms. Marie Antoinette to be fitted with a straightjacket over unstable luminance plaguing Panasonic plasmas. Just turn off CATS and all of those pesky floating blacks stop floating and all of that fluctuating brightness stops, um, fluctuating.

Less over-the-top response: Meaning turning off CATS does not necessarily solve the issue. This is not exactly news. This topic - "floating blacks"/"fluctuating brightness" - is what got me hooked again on AVS after five years off.

Did you read the post from the guy they are trying to help? Read what I highlighted in bold below and tell me if you don't agree that turning off CATS is a good idea? Or are you implying that he should leave it on?

This guy hasn't even tweaked his set out at all like all these head-scratching AVS users who do see the FB's. The 1st step is to tweak the set, and then you can worry about FB's or fluctuating brightness. Since this guy likes the set as-is out-of-the-box I don't think he fits into that category; at least not yet.


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Originally Posted by Oilfieldtrash View Post

Picked up the 55" st30 last night from Fry's. I'll give my thoughts but remember I'm just a guy that likes a quality tv and I don't go into any technical details. I haven't even changed any settings out of the box cause it just looks so nice as it sits.

So far I'm very impressed. It was kinda heavy and it looks really thin to me. Of course the tv it's replacing is an almost 6 years old 42" toshiba lcd that was wide as hell. The stand is very sturdy and it doesn't swivel but I'm okay with that because it so well made. Black levels look amazing to me. I really never had any black levels on the old toshiba. Everything was just a dark gray but I didn't really ever notice it. Now looking at a true black on the tv looks kinda weird but I like it.

3d looks amazing as well. I watched Tangled last night and I was really impressed by the tv as well as the movie. I am not new to 3d. I have a computer that is using nvidia 3d vision and a 120hz monitor and so far I'm going to have to say panasonic does a better job on 3d than my nvidia kit.
There seemed to be more depth using the panasonic and objects seemed to be able to come in more like you could almost touch it.

I do have one annoying issue though. It looks like panasonic has some kind of automatic brightness adjustment. I'm not sure what it is but I'll notice that the picture will all of a sudden get brighter or darker depending on the scene. It is noticeable to me when it happens and it kind of annoys me. Is there any way to turn it off?
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