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Originally Posted by MASKOAA View Post
Something I just noticed when testing some wallpapers I had on a Flash. The TV's menu gives off IR really easy if right after looking at it you go to an image with solid black. Seems like White text on Black background it happens really fast. I threw in a letterboxed video and I could see the INFO button from the TV'S media player at the bottom of the screen. It goes away if you zoom in for 20 seconds but I was surprised how fast that scenario gives IR. Dont think I'll ever watch ENCORE now...lol...=(
What you're seeing is likely not IR, but instead a separate phenomenon in which PDPs retain their last displayed image when immediately switching to a black screen. Even well-broken in plasmas that do not get visible IR will exhibit this issue from mere seconds of high contrast content followed by a black screen. What distinguishes this from IR is that it will be eliminated instantly upon displaying actual content and should not be visible with other solid color content, just black.

I wish there was a term for this (maybe there is, but I don't know of one) so we could call it something and distinguish it better from IR. I might suggest "black screen persistence" or something along those lines, since low APL content is required for it to be visible.
post #1472 of 8347
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Originally Posted by Noah View Post
What you're seeing is likely not IR, but instead a separate phenomenon in which PDPs retain their last displayed image when immediately switching to a black screen. Even well-broken in plasmas that do not get visible IR will exhibit this issue from mere seconds of high contrast content followed by a black screen. What distinguishes this from IR is that it will be eliminated instantly upon displaying actual content and should not be visible with other solid color content, just black.

I wish there was a term for this (maybe there is, but I don't know of one) so we could call it something and distinguish it better from IR. I might suggest "black screen persistence" or something along those lines, since low APL content is required for it to be visible.
Thanks for the info. I nearly had a heart attack when I saw it I was liek OMG WTF HOW DID THE MENU BURN IN.
post #1473 of 8347
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Originally Posted by Noah View Post
What you're seeing is likely not IR, but instead a separate phenomenon in which PDPs retain their last displayed image when immediately switching to a black screen. Even well-broken in plasmas that do not get visible IR will exhibit this issue from mere seconds of high contrast content followed by a black screen. What distinguishes this from IR is that it will be eliminated instantly upon displaying actual content and should not be visible with other solid color content, just black.

I wish there was a term for this (maybe there is, but I don't know of one) so we could call it something and distinguish it better from IR. I might suggest "black screen persistence" or something along those lines, since low APL content is required for it to be visible.
I've seen it referred to as phosphorescence.
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Tried the Youtube function, kinda sucks b/c it doesnt play the video in highest quality possible which makes watching Youtube on a big HDTV pointless lol.
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Originally Posted by Orta View Post
I've seen it referred to as phosphorescence.
Yes, that's it. Thank you...was trying to come up with something.
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Originally Posted by Lord_Spanky View Post
Holy Crap! I swore I wouldnt watch avatar again until I got 3d glasses and the 3d bluray, but after getting into it on my new st30 I couldnt stop watching. I was hypnotically compelled to watch the entire movie. I checked some other blu-rays and they look decent, but avatar is ridiculously good quality. Did anyone else have the same experience with avatar and their st30? Im sooo happy now. I cant believe I was so worked up over a defective pixel that you cant see when youre watching the tv normally newayz. 100 hours of color slides was depressing me I think.
I didn't even bother with the slides... Just played Avatar 5 times over, 4 times in 3D and 1 in 2D.

I got alot of 1:85 DVD's and they just look like poop even upscaled to 1080p. The grain is gigantic and the black levels suck. Heck I even seen on my Evil Dead disc that there is a 10 pixel (maybe bigger) dot on the center of the screen that looks like dead pixels... But it is not.

Just waiting for more movies to be remasterd on blu ray... Predator, Alien(s), 5th element... All look like totally different movies.

The sucky thing is that 3D mode doesn't let you change the aspect ratio. So, my other 3D movies I can't watch them yet.

My TV has about 50 hours on it so far and I played a good bit of games... Never seen any IR or odd stuff. Prob because D-nice settings have the panel set to a lower brightness.
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Im going out to get a flashdrive to download the slides. How much memory will the slides take up? Thanks
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Originally Posted by E.C View Post

Im going out to get a flashdrive to download the slides. How much memory will the slides take up? Thanks

...its just 20 pictures.
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Ok. Can anyone recomend a good site to download some highdef wallpapers?
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Originally Posted by Noah View Post

What you're seeing is likely not IR, but instead a separate phenomenon in which PDPs retain their last displayed image when immediately switching to a black screen. Even well-broken in plasmas that do not get visible IR will exhibit this issue from mere seconds of high contrast content followed by a black screen. What distinguishes this from IR is that it will be eliminated instantly upon displaying actual content and should not be visible with other solid color content, just black.

I wish there was a term for this (maybe there is, but I don't know of one) so we could call it something and distinguish it better from IR. I might suggest "black screen persistence" or something along those lines, since low APL content is required for it to be visible.

I believe what he's seeing when the scene goes to black is Residual Charge, which is when the pixels go from bright to dark it leaves a slight ghost image visible in the black area, but is soon wiped away by bright content.

Phosphorescence is a sort of afterglow where you see the ghost images of previous content on the screen after you turn the TV off or switch to a blank-input/no-signal screen. All plasmas and tube TVs do this.
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Originally Posted by E.C View Post

Ok. Can anyone recomend a good site to download some highdef wallpapers?

http://interfacelift.com/wallpaper/downloads/date/any/

1080P images as well as other resolutions.
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Thanks, that's exactly what I was looking for.
post #1483 of 8347
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Originally Posted by E.C View Post

Ok. Can anyone recomend a good site to download some highdef wallpapers?

Here are a few more sources for HD Wallpaper pictures that i've used:

http://www.freehdwallpapers.com/

http://www.ewallpapers.eu/search_siz...080-HDTV-1080i

http://www.wallpaperweb.org/wallpaper/1920x1080_1.htm


Make sure all the pictures you choose are 1920x1080
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Originally Posted by fpileggi View Post

http://interfacelift.com/wallpaper/downloads/date/any/

1080P images as well as other resolutions.

my favorite wallpaper site
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I watched Tangled in 3d one time and thats my break in period and now it's ready to go. I have taken the precaution of limiting brightness to 61 and contrast to 72 for a week or two. Anyone have thoughts on my break in procedure? Should I be okay? Oh yeah will be gaming on it this week. Just got it three days ago.
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Also forgot to add the main reason I bought this plasma was for watching NBA games. My old LCD was a scrambled mess when the players got to moving around. Last night watched Every minute of a game and it was great. No motion blur whatsoever. Come on playoffs.

Thanks Avsforum. Frys salesman kept trying to get me to buy a edge lit LCD and even asked me why I wanted a plasma. Lol. Noob.
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Originally Posted by Noah View Post

What you're seeing is likely not IR, but instead a separate phenomenon in which PDPs retain their last displayed image when immediately switching to a black screen. Even well-broken in plasmas that do not get visible IR will exhibit this issue from mere seconds of high contrast content followed by a black screen. What distinguishes this from IR is that it will be eliminated instantly upon displaying actual content and should not be visible with other solid color content, just black.

I wish there was a term for this (maybe there is, but I don't know of one) so we could call it something and distinguish it better from IR. I might suggest "black screen persistence" or something along those lines, since low APL content is required for it to be visible.

No, it seems like mild IR. My tv does it too, and it doesn't just go away the next time something is on the screen. It stays there for seconds or minutes during the displaying of other content depending on how long the IR image was there to begin with.

For example, on the ps3 xmb if I have Killzone 2 in the drive, and then go to the killzone disk icon so that the Killzone backsplash comes on the screen, the very bold white killzone title will remain on the screen after its gone even after it was up for only 5 seconds. If i get it, and watch 30 seconds of tv, then switch back to a black screen it is still there, only more faded. It will go away pretty quickly, but it forms very quickly too, and I would definately classify it as IR.

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Originally Posted by RandyWalters View Post

I believe what he's seeing when the scene goes to black is Residual Charge, which is when the pixels go from bright to dark it leaves a slight ghost image visible in the black area, but is soon wiped away by bright content.

Phosphorescence is a sort of afterglow where you see the ghost images of previous content on the screen after you turn the TV off or switch to a blank-input/no-signal screen. All plasmas and tube TVs do this.

So is this a different phenomenon than IR, or is IR the same phenomenon of a different level?
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Originally Posted by MASKOAA View Post

...its just 20 pictures.

Each slide is 25 KB, so about 0.5 Mb.

Best,
Greg
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I have a question for those who have an ST30. I currently have the 46GT24 which Panny makes for Costco. It is essentially the GT25 series. I like the set but I am not totally sold on it at this point and find myself tinkiering with its video settings more than I would like due to the variences in source material. I'm not married to the GT's THX mode and actually prefer the Custom mode for Cable. The thought of returning the set and getting a 50ST30 or even a 46ST30 has crossed my mind even though the Costco price was outstanding. Can any of you make an honest comparison between the GT24 or 25 sets and the ST30 series? I know that the GTs are, in theory, moer full featured but could that be, in part, negated by better 2D/3D PQ (if that's the case), more effective Anti-glare properties, or any other factors where the ST30 may be better? The new GT and for sure the VT series may be a bit too pricey for me right now and I've got another 50 days or so on my Costco return. Thanks in advance for your help.
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I've had the same problem with my new 42" st30 that somebody reported earlier in this thread, corrupt sound from Netflix played through Viera Connect. I've found that I only get it on HD source material. If anyone else notices this issue please submit it to Panasonic Customer Support. I queried Panasonic Customer Support and here's the response I got.

Thank you for your inquiry. The issue that you are experiencing is currently being investigated by our research department. Your case will be forwarded to research. Your case number is 28540399. Please allow or research department some to research this issue. Once a solution is determined, you will be contacted through e-mail. If we can further assist you please call the Panasonic Customer Call Center at (800) 211 7262. Our hours of operation are Monday thru Friday 9 A.M. to 9 P.M. and Saturday ? Sunday 10 A.M. to 7 P.M. Eastern Standard Time. Please reference your case number at the time of your call. Thank you for contacting Panasonic.


On April 6, 2011 at 2:28 PM, stsva@aol.com wrote:

I have a TC-P42ST30. The TV has an 802.11g wireless Internet connection using the provided Panasonic USB wireless adapter. It automatically updated to software version 2.0 when I first opened Viera Connect. I have an issue with the sound on HD programming from Netflix through Viera Connect. The sound is corrupted on all HD sources from Netflix, but is not corrupted on non-HD sources from Netflix. Netflix customer support confirmed that my connection is more than fast enough. Is this a known issue? Will a software update be provided to fix the issue?
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I cant get the side HDMI slot to work....anyone else? I tried different coords and different devices and when I go to inputs it just says NOT IN USE.
post #1492 of 8347
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Originally Posted by MASKOAA View Post

I cant get the side HDMI slot to work....anyone else? I tried different coords and different devices and when I go to inputs it just says NOT IN USE.

I haven't tried hdmi 3 yet (located on the side), but hdmi 1 and 2 both work fine.
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Originally Posted by MASKOAA View Post

I cant get the side HDMI slot to work....anyone else? I tried different coords and different devices and when I go to inputs it just says NOT IN USE.

Have you tried going into Menu | Setup | Input labels to see if the port is labeled as "Not Used"? If it is, you can just change it to a valid label and see if you can select it after that.

Best,
Greg
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Originally Posted by Oilfieldtrash View Post

Also forgot to add the main reason I bought this plasma was for watching NBA games. My old LCD was a scrambled mess when the players got to moving around. Last night watched Every minute of a game and it was great. No motion blur whatsoever. Come on playoffs.

Thanks Avsforum. Frys salesman kept trying to get me to buy a edge lit LCD and even asked me why I wanted a plasma. Lol. Noob.

Salesmen are the devil, lol. My poor mother wanted a new TV last year because her old TV died. So she wanted something cheap around the 42" size. She didn't ask my advice before buying, so of course the salesman swindled her into buying a $1500 Mitsubishi LED TV that had like 16 built in 2-watt speaker meant to produce 5.1 surround sound

After catching wind of this, I told her to take it back and get a 42" S2 and the salesmen at first kept talking her out of it. They told her that the government is trying to outlaw plasma, that all plasmas die after a year. Then when she wouldn't budge, they told her "Why would you settle for a Corolla when you can have a Mercedez Benz"

Thankfully she held her ground and got a 42" S2 for $550 with a 5 year warranty, this was even before the S2 started dropping in price last year.
post #1495 of 8347
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Originally Posted by PreventerWind View Post

Salesmen are the devil, lol. My poor mother wanted a new TV last year because her old TV died. So she wanted something cheap around the 42" size. She didn't ask my advice before buying, so of course the salesman swindled her into buying a $1500 Mitsubishi LED TV that had like 16 built in 2-watt speaker meant to produce 5.1 surround sound

After catching wind of this, I told her to take it back and get a 42" S2 and the salesmen at first kept talking her out of it. They told her that the government is trying to outlaw plasma, that all plasmas die after a year. Then when she wouldn't budge, they told her "Why would you settle for a Corolla when you can have a Mercedez Benz"

Thankfully she held her ground and got a 42" S2 for $550 with a 5 year warranty, this was even before the S2 started dropping in price last year.

lmao

what a friggin dirt bag.

edit:

http://www.pcworld.com/businesscente...lasma_tvs.html

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Originally Posted by PreventerWind View Post

Salesmen are the devil, lol. My poor mother wanted a new TV last year because her old TV died. So she wanted something cheap around the 42" size. She didn't ask my advice before buying, so of course the salesman swindled her into buying a $1500 Mitsubishi LED TV that had like 16 built in 2-watt speaker meant to produce 5.1 surround sound

After catching wind of this, I told her to take it back and get a 42" S2 and the salesmen at first kept talking her out of it. They told her that the government is trying to outlaw plasma, that all plasmas die after a year. Then when she wouldn't budge, they told her "Why would you settle for a Corolla when you can have a Mercedez Benz"

Thankfully she held her ground and got a 42" S2 for $550 with a 5 year warranty, this was even before the S2 started dropping in price last year.

To Best Buy's credit, I've never heard any of their TV salseman do this. Frys is constantly pushing high-margin models which is understandable, but as you saw, they will flat out lie. Every time I've listened to Best Buy salesman, they've told customers up front that plasma offers the best picture quality then let the customer go from there.
post #1497 of 8347
I will be getting my 50ST30 tomm! I am really excited for it. Someone tell me what I should do with it first!!!!!
post #1498 of 8347
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Originally Posted by PreventerWind View Post

Salesmen are the devil, lol. My poor mother wanted a new TV last year because her old TV died. So she wanted something cheap around the 42" size. She didn't ask my advice before buying, so of course the salesman swindled her into buying a $1500 Mitsubishi LED TV that had like 16 built in 2-watt speaker meant to produce 5.1 surround sound

After catching wind of this, I told her to take it back and get a 42" S2 and the salesmen at first kept talking her out of it. They told her that the government is trying to outlaw plasma, that all plasmas die after a year. Then when she wouldn't budge, they told her "Why would you settle for a Corolla when you can have a Mercedez Benz"

Thankfully she held her ground and got a 42" S2 for $550 with a 5 year warranty, this was even before the S2 started dropping in price last year.

That's actually true.

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Originally Posted by BDS23420 View Post

I will be getting my 50ST30 tomm! I am really excited for it. Someone tell me what I should do with it first!!!!!

Use it
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Originally Posted by BDS23420 View Post

I will be getting my 50ST30 tomm! I am really excited for it. Someone tell me what I should do with it first!!!!!

Personally, I followed D-Nice's calibration formula, which i finished yesterday. I am totally glad I did it. To each his own, though. Above all, try to enjoy it.
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Originally Posted by JukeBox360 View Post

That's actually true.



Use it

by the time plasmas are outlawed in europe there will probably be affordable oled units newayz.
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