Official Panasonic 2011 TC-PxxST30 Thread [No Price Talk] - Page 52

ok cool so you used the settings that he had after he did the "break in: and it looks great to you?

Yup. Side note to get the most out of those settings you need a dim to dark room. If you have light coming in from the outside during the day those settings will look dull.

thanks for the heads up....any settings you have for the day time?

Basically I just up the panels brightnes in the pro setting from LOW to MID then lower the color to about 35-37 everything else is D-Nice settings.

Anyone else find it odd that Plasma TV's preset Game Picture Settings have contrast at 100?

Odd? No. What's wrong with a 100 contrast?

I thought I read that 100 is more likely to cause burn in which is why people generally run the slides at 100 contrast b/c it ages the panel quicker.

I thought that too. That being said, I usually play games with high contrast newayz.

Have you played Dead Space 1 and 2 on this? Looks amazing and no hud. I tried all of my old games but after a couple of minutes of being floored by how good they look I get bored b/c I already played them way to much before....I need new games now lol.

If you have a ps3, try heavy rain.

No, i havent played ds 1 or 2 because they don't offer southpaw controls. I desperately need to send off a controller for the southpaw mod where they swap the functions of your sticks for you. It's a service.

I too agree that my games look amazing on this set. Just like the gt25 there is significant (imo) judder with a ~30fps game, which most are. With a game that runs at 60 most of the time, like ratchet and clank a crack in time, its amazingly smooth most of the time, though. In that game, you often get that cherished fishbowl look that one so often gets when running 3d games at high framerates on a nice computers.

It's not a flaw with the panel, its just the way 60hz pdp tech makes 30 fps games look, at least it is from my experience (2x gts 2x sts). Still though, there is no blur as with lcd tech, only the double image judder, which can be mistaken for blur at times. Overall the motion handling on my plasma is much better than any led/lcd ive ever seen with perhaps the exception of some specialty gaming lcd monitors that use tn panels. However, tn panels look like washed out crap otherwise.

what is a better plasma ST 30 or a PN7000?

ahhhhhhhhhh if all questions like this had a simple objective answer, I don't think we'd be here.

lol, Welcome to AVS. That's basically what this site does. Makes tons of problems out of nothing. They make them for more drastic them they really seem to be. Do what I do. Ignore them and see for yourself. Otherwise, the only thing this site is going to make you do is second guys every purchase you make.

Dude I just got mine today and havent stopped watching it since!!!! I would say go for it. Its the best picture I have EVER seen on a tv.....amazing.

Cheers!

Well, my TV is about 70 hours used and I've been seeing alot of green tint with D-nice settings as of the past 10 hours. When my TV was new I seen none. I also didn't see the green blob untill around 50ish hours.

It is very distracting the green tint on light shadow areas, somkey greys and even visible on flesh tones.

The green blob is pretty well hidden untill a greyish black screen is on and can be see when there is light color tones like grey, brown and clay.

From going to not seeing this, to visibly seeing these defects... I can only assume that it will not go away... Possibly increasing with time.

I'll continue to note stuff as I watch my TV age hour by hour.

Morbid, I just got mine yesterday and set it up with D-nice's setting and I also had the green skin tone, so what I did was make my own using his settings, i just tweaked them a bit and i have a perfect picture, I am only about 9 hours into my TV but i LOVE it so far!!!

also he said that his settings were only to be used after the 100 hour break in slides... idk if it matters that much thou.

Keep updating and I will do the same so we can see if its just settings or the tv!

Remember not all channels broadcast at the same calibration, to test D-Nice settings you should try a true source like a blu ray or a dvd or a game.

I have about 120-130 hours on mine and I do still see some green tint. It has lessened from what it was though. Like previously mentioned I see it mostly on greyish parts and skin tones. I think it may be related to a certain luminance (maybe not right word but can't think of it). I see it on some skin tones, again it has improved, but I see it on the NBC show Parenthood the most. They must have a certain "look" that must reach that "luminance" range.

I will post more updates as the panel ages.

Exactly right. A fair number of TV shows and movies intentionally used a non-standard white balance and visual effects (the Twilight series, for example). Even "regular" broadcast material often differs widely in white balance/skin tones.

Well, I just did a few hours of testing on the green tint and blob. It seems that the DVD's I've been playing are indeed causing green tint and blob effect.

3 DVD's to note. 2004 re-release of the Terminator. 47 mins and 20 seconds is the part with a ton of green tint. I played this disc in both my PS3 and 360 using media bridge ultra HDMI cable and a Monster 400 HDMI. Both showed the same green tint.

The blob can be well seen in Evil Dead THX remastered DVD and Army of Darkness DVD re-release. As well as some green tint.

DVD's in general seem to show case the tint of green. I have no idea why? Compression maybe? Blu Ray on the other hand I cannot see green tint or the blob. This is also true for games.

So, in conclusion... DVD's that I've tested so far are found to reproduce green tint and green blob effects. Every thing else excluding cable/sat and streaming do not cause this issue for atleast me. I do not have cable or sat so I cannot test this. I do have netflix but... I did not see anything odd other then a movie with light blue as a purple tint. Other 2 movies I did not see anything of note.

I have a light colored verticle band ( you probably do too ) about 2 inches from the right bezel. both my gt25s and both my st30s all had it in the same spot. So its normal to a point. However, my current st30 has the most prominent band out of all 4 pannys ive owned. On the previous models the band couldnt be scene in any content accept color slides. On this model, anything less than full hd will expose it. All dvd quality material Ive tried shows it off. It especially shows up in panning scenes. Its not terrible, and I can live with it, but its there. Pop in a bluray movie and you cant really spot it. Higher quality source material seems to hide uniformity imperfections for some reason.

Very true. I notice many channels with the green edge on faces and such.

Pop in a DVD or BD in a good DVD player and then judge the pic.

finally got the tv, and here's my experience.

OTB, the picture settings aren't that great, I'd rate OK, but that can be kind of expected. standard look the most accurate of the options, but will only work in pitch dark rooms imo. cinema looks too yellow, like an attempt to make it look like old film or something. game looks like an LED on store display mode. custom looks vibrant, with lots of washed colors and the whites are way too hot. vivid... lets not even go there. summary... WTF... i understand it's not THX certified, but I think better attempts at settings could been made OTB. Haven't tried any settings suggested online.

The motion seems very solid. I've seen no issue watching anything. I think any complaints about this are off the mark or just being unrealistic in expectations for a tv at this price.

I'd say glare on a scale of 1-10 is a 5. Not the best tv in settings where the sun comes in the windows at all in the room, or bright tracking lighting etc. If light could be an issue, I'm not sure this tv is for you.

It does the 3d very well. One bummer for me, even though the tv does 3d very well, my left eye astigmatism isn't having it. Some 3d is fine, but the parts of movies where they really try to make it feel like it's coming out of the screen, it's totally messed up for my eyes. Someone else never had the issue so I know it's my eyes. Unless shutter glasses aren't needed, I'll never be able to truly enjoy 3d.

I'm not going the break in route. the most i'm doing is leaving it on standard as it's very dim and watch full screen content or stretched content. I see no point in doing anything more then this. I've watched all kinds of content at this point, and I've played video games, and I've seen no image retention at all. IR is really not an issue with this tv imo.

TV is very easy to setup, and very easy to operate, and I think it's fantastic to get into a 3d tv with this nice of a picture at this kind of a price point.

You really only need to keep it on dim mode if your gonna walk away from it as a safety precaution in case for some reason the video freezes on whatever your watching lol. I used D-Nice settings and couldnt be happier. Just google search for them. HIGH DEF JUNKIES Forum and go to D-NICE's section.

Has anyone tried playing Battlefield Bad Company 2 yet on the st30. I just picked it up since I haven't played the campaign in some time. I noticed a crap load of horizontal lines running across the screen when I'm playing it. Its most noticeable when panning up and down. It is distracting and annoying. For a second I thought it might of been the TV but I pop in Crysis 2 and Black Ops with no issues. just curious if anyone else has seen this. If so is it the games frame rate?

I played multi player through my pc for about 15 minutes. I thought it looked great.

sounds like tearing. your 360/PS3 might not be syncing correctly with the refresh rate, but then again I sometimes get tearing on Lego games even though mine is set up correctly on my Kuro.

so are you suggesting there is a way to correct this? its a ps3

I think i fix it. restarted my ps3 seems to have fixed the issue.