Official Panasonic 2011 TC-PxxST30 Thread [No Price Talk] - Page 74

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I use the shop cloths .they are a heavy duty paper towel that is very soft.These seem to work great for any type screen.

Just got back from BB & saw the '30 demoing, and was liking the 3d detail, but not nearly bright enough. I've yet to find, at least @ any local retailers, anything that matchs the pop/brightness of the Sony HX8 series that was on demo @ my local Costco. That model also had things popping out of the screen, where i don't notice that as much on the ST30.

It'll be bright enough in your home. Unless you've got big Costco florescents hanging on your ceiling.

Not on my screen.

Do you have florescent lighting running full force in your viewing room?

What issues are you having with the ex723?

What are your settings?

Maybe I can help you get your ex723 setup better to avoid the return. Maybe not.

I just have it set in cinema mode.
I see a lot of blue tint in standard mode

I also read that 3D was not that good on the ex723

The demo model ST30 they had my local BB had a ticker tape scene going on and the freakin' ticker tape was so very "close" to my eyes that I almost instinctively tried to swat it away. I bought the TV on the spot and would have bought the 3D glasses kit, too, if I didn't have good reason to believe the prices were going to be cut drastically this summer (crossing my fingers).

Each of the SCENE modes can be further adjusted on a wide range of picture settings. In some cases a particular SCENE mode may turn off a function.

In order to get the best picture from the EX723/720 you really need to dig down and explore the adjustments you can make and how they contribute or detract from the image quality you would prefer.

I don't think there was a single SCENE mode I would have left "as is" and I would not judge the potential of the ex723/720 on what the default settings of the various SCENE modes provide.

Again, each of the SCENE modes offers a particular starting point and range of image setting options. In some cases, switching from one SCENE mode to another can cause a change in the image, even if they are set the same as far as the range of adjustments they offer. Such is the case with GENERAL and CINEMA. I have GENERAL/Standard and CINEMA 1 set exactly the same, yet there is a white balance shift between the two with the CINEMA 1 mode a little more red.. I'm not sure why.

It's also a good idea to see what you can achieve with any contrast enhancement or black level enhancement turned off. The native on/off contrast of the ex72x panel is 5000+:1, which is very good.


EDIT: I would rate the 3D performance of the ex720 as good. If want very good, you probably have to consider a plasma in this price range. I don't care about 3D on this display, so it's one feature I am willing to trade for better performance elsewhere. That being said, I have only tested 3D with Side by Side HBO 3D. I really see what the ex723 can do, I need to hook up our 3D blu-ray and watch a 3D title from blu-ray. Broadcast 3D runs at half resolution when displayed as a side/by/side source image. I amy do that later tonight and file a follow up report on ex723 and 3D.

Paper towels (regardless of how soft and fluffy they may be) are abrasive and are detrimental to the plasma screen's delicate treated surface.

The manufacturers say to only use soft cloth to clean the screen, and it's for good reason. There is no good reason to use anything different.

Hello, Today I had just purchased a Panasonic Plasma TV ( TC-P46S30 ) - This is the first plasma I have purchased. I have been and still do own many Samsung LCD panels, to which i am happy with.

My question is after reading through this posts here, and people saying the black levels on this panel are not good, is making me wonder if I should just return the set (since I have not opened the box yet) and get a Samsung Plasma ?

Also , Is there any calibration settings that are posted for this Panasonic TC-PS30 ? Maybe to tweek it. I have used this site alot in the past for my samsung screens, to manually setup calibration. Was wondering if anyone could help.

Thank you

who said the black levels are not good??

Well I read that people like older model panasonics, to the S30 series --- The GT series was one.

I just want to get best performance out of my panel, so I popped on here to see if any one had posted any calibration settings.

I guess the panel is very new, so many people do not have it yet. I am excited to crack open the box and try it, but was just doing some reading to make sure this panel is good

well the GT series is above the ST series. It's marginally better, but you pay for it.

I take it you own a ST30 ? what are your thoughts ? Any specifics on settings used to tweek it ? Or is it just good from out of the box state ?

unfortunately no, so I'm not the one to ask. I'm only going off past Panny experience and reviews + people here. I'll be buying one in the next couple months though

There are settings posted in this thread, I think. Or check out high def junkies forum and search for D-Nice. He has great settings always.

Ya I was trying to find those settings in question ... But I can not seem to, I tried a search for calibration / d-nice, but did not find any specifics to mode / picture settings....

There is a thread for S30 owners. This is the ST30 thread. You might get better information in the S30 thread.

The Panasonic 2011 plasma line starts at 3X, S30, ST30, GT30, and the top display is the VT30.

It might also help if you say why a happy LCD owner would switch to plasma.

He does not have any settings for the S30 series. He does have settings for the ST30 series, but they're posted on a different forum. Regardless, your S30 is a very different TV than an ST30 so his settings won't really work on your S30.

You have a PM.

Hi, does anyone know the panasonic tc-p50st30 mounting hole dimensions for a wall mount ? the manual didn't show this !! Maybe I just overlooked it? also there are so many wall mtg. out there any recommendations ? also what do you recommend the height of the mount from the floor ? Thanks

The center of the screen should be approximately eye height.

Peerless is one of the good companies. Sanus and Chief are others.

So the S30 and ST30 are 2 different panels ?

Actually, I read a few forum posters who used the ST30 break-in slides and settings with their S30 and were very happy with them after a few slight tweaks. D-Nice's ST30 settings do not require you to enter SM so it's worth a shot imo.

Yes, they're completely different. The ST30 panel has the much higher-performing NeoPlasma panel which is also used in the higher GT30. The S30 has a regular entry-level non-Neo panel, and it also does not have an Anti-Reflective bonded filter like the ST30/GT30 does.

After some frustrations trying to find a good LCD, I pulled the trigger on a 46 inch ST30 yesterday.


Got it home and immediately got my satellite running on it. I was immediately struck by the smoothness of the picture, but then I noticed that the "motion processing" was on by default. So with that turned off it's still very smooth, but not as perfectly smooth as I would have expected. Panning shots in various shows still showed the slightest touch of stutter to them. Still noticeably better than an LCD without motion processing turned on though.

I then loaded up a PS3 game called Joe Danger. It's a fast moving racing/action game, that moves like an old school videogame Excitebike. As I was playing I kept noticing this odd artifact on certain edges of objects. It almost looked like what you'd see if you looked at a 3D image without the glasses on. But it was only on the edges of certain objects. Then I loaded up Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2. I started seeing the exact same thing on some edges, and then it dawned on me. I'm seeing "green phosphor lag". Anytime there was a bright object moving quickly it was be noticeable on the edges. I was seeing it everywhere playing Call of Duty.


Regarding the specifics of this ST30. Just as it was mentioned in CNET's review, only the Cinema picture preset has remotely accurate gamma. Every other setting was way off, and the blacks were crushed. I played with it a bit, and it became very apparent that just as the CNET review mentioned, I would only ever use the Cinema setting with this TV, as all the other presets were not adjustable enough to fix this gamma problem. The only problem with the Cinema setting is that it's max light output is kinda low. Fine for a dark room, but if I ever wanted to open the windows a bit on a nice day it wouldn't be so good.

So after a couple of hours it became clear to me that I wouldn't be happy with this TV. The green phosphor issue was not something I could get used to, or accept. It also bothered me that Panasonic intentionally gimped this TV by only giving it 3 HDMI inputs, and one of them are on the side, where the cable sticks out when plugged in. It's annoying when companies just intentionally gimp a TV like that. Panasonic is offering 4 HDMI inputs on some of their much cheaper LCD models, but they decide this 3D plasma should only have 3?

I wouldn't consider the GT30 because of it's floating blacks, and I won't consider any of the Samsung plasmas because they buzz and that is a no no for me. Although this ST30 did buzz a bit, contrary to what some people said in this thread, it was certainly quiet enough to be acceptable to me.

So I just don't think I'm a plasma guy. If I were just into movies and TV viewing, I very well may be, but with games being my primary focus, the green phosphor and the worry of burn in are enough to push me away.

Getting a replacement from Amazon after calling them today. Will be here in 2 days.

Tired of the green tint, color banding, brightness flux and line bleed. Panasonic is no help what so ever on the issue. They always refer you to a 3rd party. So yeah... Time to roll the dice again and see what I get.

LOL! Typo? Or not?

larry

everytime I read all the complains in here about the ST30 I fill more lucky of having a perfect set...