To those like me who use Cinema mode for almost all inputs, once you set the Cinema preset, it does carry over to all inputs. From what I see of being hooked up directly to the cable outlet, PS3, and 360, these are what I use...
Black Level: Light (Dark works the same, but either the brightness or the source device settings will have to be changed dramatically. Light is just more source device friendly IMHO, and keeps it around the 50's.)
Cable jack (I don't use a cable box): Can't touch settings obviously, but the brightness at 55-57 was perfect from my local HD channel testing, just like the PS3 and 360 with these settings.
PS3: HDMI Full Range (Limited will make Brightness have to be around 26 unless you set the TV Black Level to Dark, where 55-57 will be perfect again, but setting it to Dark will affect the other inputs.) People think the PS3 HAS to be on Limited when they don't realize that setting the PS3 to Limited with the TV black level set to Dark, is essentially the same thing as setting it to Full with the TV black level set to Light.
360: HDMI Expanded (Intermediate and Standard will make Brightness have to be lower than 55)
Computer: My desktop seems to have an internal HDMI Limited range setting I can't touch, so my brightness goes down to 26 with Black level Light, which is why I have the computer HDMI input being the only one in Custom Mode with D-Nice settings with Black level Dark, and Brightness at 55. Using the same images for calibrating brightness, the images become identical to the 360 and PS3 with these settings.http://imageshack.us/f/82/75285378fbutmplsgreysca.jpg/http://i55.tinypic.com/2h6yrd5.png
^These are two of the images I use to calibrate brightness. I save them on all my devices. The 2nd image, the background around the squares is 0 black, FYI. I personally set my brightness low enough to where the first square just starts to have dither, or even one or two notches lower since 1 out of the 255 isn't gonna be discernable to most of us anyway.
Brightness setting is gonna be very dependent on source devices. I find the PS3 Full, 360 Expanded, and my Computer's non-adjustable settings (though it has to be with Dark Black level) to be near similar, so the brightness doesn't have to be adjusted at 55-57. 0-255 greyscale will be pretty much the same at Brightness 55-57 at the point 0 black becomes actually as black as it can be without crushing anything else.
People may not realize this, but hitting the 3D button will not carry over any of your settings made in 2D mode, so you have to do your settings for 3D mode too. Again, Cinema in 3D carries over to other inputs. Custom doesn't and has to be adjusted by input.
Also from testing, only Cinema and Custom will display the full range. The other presets crush either the low end or the high end, no matter what I do. I've tested them for a long time, and it seems that they all innately have CATS on because depending on the image used, the brightness fluctuates quite heavily. Dither looks HILARIOUS on the Standard preset if you use an all black image and adjust the brightness slowly. You will get some crazy light shows of dither on certain Brightness notches. Honestly, I wouldn't bother with anything but Cinema or Custom. Vivid has a cool trick in that it shuts off the display if it senses an all black image. It's very quick too. Can't find how it does it with any other preset.
Those who THINK they need Game Mode, they don't. Custom/Cinema with the extra options off has pretty much the same input lag as Game Mode. Game Mode crushes blacks to hell, and looks downright terrible in every way any ways.
Originally Posted by Teremei
I'm seriously thinking about getting either the 60st30 or 65st30. See I have the Samsung HL67A750a or something like that. Which IS 3D compatible but only with blurays and I have an expensive $500 bluray player that is INSANELY slow that I absolutely hate.
Anyway now seems like a great time bc the 60 inch is (oh yeah I won't mention price) let's just say the 60 inch is at a very good price for the size. The 65 inch is a whole $1000 more expensive but size REALLY is important to me. I mean I'm already downgrading from 67 inches DLP to the 65.
I just want to hear from people who might have owned my same TV in the past or just know alot about it. I'm going to go see this TV in person but how much better are my blurays going to look on this baby compared to what I have?
Previously owned the HL67A750 LED DLP. Loved it. You will love the 65ST30 even more. It is a clear and worthy upgrade. You won't miss the 2" when you see the upgrade in PQ.