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post #7741 of 8347
I've had my 65ST30 for several months and I am very pleased with it - especially after getting it pro cal'd. No, it's not perfect, but a great value for the money.
post #7742 of 8347
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Originally Posted by agent8 View Post

Thanks, That's what I was looking for guys! Now I just need to gamble on when to pull the trigger...

I wouldn't wait any longer. I got the last one at one at the local BB near me. They told me that there were only 2 left in the state (fl.) Don't know how true that is, but I don't think you want to mess around at this point. You could wind up almost where I was and be forced into buying a 2012 model at rediculous pricing....
post #7743 of 8347
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Originally Posted by DavidHir View Post

I've had my 65ST30 for several months and I am very pleased with it - especially after getting it pro cal'd. No, it's not perfect, but a great value for the money.

Well put. Did you ever post your settings after your prof. calibration?
post #7744 of 8347
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Originally Posted by av_freek View Post

On a positive note, this TV is spectacular, especially for the price I paid for it. It kicks the picture on 59" Samsung I had square in the a$$ and it doesn't buzz like a swarm of bees and crickets and I haven't even gotten the settings dialed in to half of how good I know they can be.

Funny - I could have said your above statement myself, except the exact opposite way around! I am quite enjoying the PQ on my (non buzzing) pn59d550 versus the 55st50 that I had to return. What panny model do you have now, and what model Samsung did you have?
post #7745 of 8347
All finished with the slides (125 hrs). Have a July build, less than the 1213 serial number and 32.5c PDP EEP value (I know).

Have no problems, at least to me, with the green/pink problems, FBR, buzzing or stuck/dead pixels. Panel pristine.

Using D-nice settings with an outstanding picture on cable (HD exclusively), blu-ray, dvd or roku. No 3D glasses yet.

Just going to enjoy my new Panny!

Thanks to everyone and especially D-nice,
Robert
post #7746 of 8347
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Originally Posted by WayneNumm View Post


Funny - I could have said your above statement myself, except the exact opposite way around! I am quite enjoying the PQ on my (non buzzing) pn59d550 versus the 55st50 that I had to return. What panny model do you have now, and what model Samsung did you have?


The original tv was a PN58c500. Always had a great picture but buzzed like hell from day one and the panel died exactly one month after my Samsung 1 year warranty expired. Luckily I purchased an extended warranty and BB came through for me. They were out of all Panasonics under 65" so I got another Samsung as a replacement, a PN59d650. Picture looked great but it buzzed even louder than my last Samsung so sent it back and said that's it with Samsung. Luckily I had just purchased the 60ST30 from Costco for my basement.

I ended up moving the Panasonic 60ST30 upstairs and BB gave me a credit which I used towards a 65GT30 that I put in the basement. Samsung picture was great and I would have kept it if not for the buzzing b/c it wouldn't have cost me more money. I prefer Panasonic's picture over Samsung as a general rule but I understand why people prefer Samsung given their brighter panels and colors that pop more.
post #7747 of 8347
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Originally Posted by av_freek View Post

I ended up moving the Panasonic 60ST30 upstairs and BB gave me a credit which I used towards a 65GT30 that I put in the basement. Samsung picture was great and I would have kept it if not for the buzzing b/c it wouldn't have cost me more money.

I guess I should consider myself lucky that my PN59D550 is silent (so far)!

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I prefer Panasonic's picture over Samsung as a general rule but I understand why people prefer Samsung given their brighter panels and colors that pop more.

Got it. I must say that I am enjoying the brightness and pop and lack of posterisation with the Samsung. That's what I was expecting out of the 55ST30 because my 4 year old Panasonic plasma 42PX80U is substantially brighter than the 55ST30 was (and doesn't exhibit the posterisation, or green tint). But, my 55ST30 must have been somewhat defective and not indicative of the good ones, so I think I'll just shut up now!
post #7748 of 8347
Well, the pink and green blobs made themselves visible to me for the first time tonight It is the first I have seen them, since my PS3 background screen cycled to grey. They are faint, and I can't see them during the slides, which i thought was strange. Anyone know if these things end up getting worse or end up being visible when the tv is in motion? I am not worried if it only exists in certain strange situations like this. Still no FBR, so I am happy.
post #7749 of 8347
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Originally Posted by WayneNumm View Post

I guess I should consider myself lucky that my PN59D550 is silent (so far)!



Got it. I must say that I am enjoying the brightness and pop and lack of posterisation with the Samsung. That's what I was expecting out of the 55ST30 because my 4 year old Panasonic plasma 42PX80U is substantially brighter than the 55ST30 was (and doesn't exhibit the posterisation, or green tint). But, my 55ST30 must have been somewhat defective and not indicative of the good ones, so I think I'll just shut up now!

My 65ST30 is the same or brighter than my 50px80u and has far better picture quality. Many have noted that sizes smaller than the 65" are a lot dimmer, though, which is a shame. Also, my first 50px80u had a green blob just like people are getting today so it is still a crap shoot...which is also a shame.
post #7750 of 8347
has anyone been able to get the facebook app to work? I keep going to vieraconnect.facebook.com and entering the token, but it keeps saying token or pin invalid. anyone have any insight?
post #7751 of 8347
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Originally Posted by dtbreen76 View Post

I figured as much. I can tell you that I love my 55" ST30, which I bought recently for 999. At that price, I don't think you can buy a better performing set by any manufacturer, regardless of what technology is used. I have owned a Mid range Sony LED and a Toshiba DLP in the past and this panasonic has a better overall picture by far. After comparing it to my friend's 240hz LCD 60" Sharp, I cannot recommend it over the panny.

I agree 100%. I just bought my 55ST30 for the same price at the same store and I do agree the price will go down even more, but they are getting so scarce and hard to find that I jumped at this one. I did watch some videos of the new 2012 models coming out and they are SWEET! But , I just could pass up this price. Plus BestBuy had the Panasonic BDT210 wireless 3D blueRay player on sale so I got that too. Bought my Xpand X103 glasses online. The reviews said they worked very well with the ST's so I'll let you know how that goes when they arrive.
post #7752 of 8347
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Originally Posted by hawkman427 View Post

I agree 100%. I just bought my 55ST30 for the same price at the same store and I do agree the price will go down even more, but they are getting so scarce and hard to find that I jumped at this one. I did watch some videos of the new 2012 models coming out and they are SWEET! But , I just could pass up this price. Plus BestBuy had the Panasonic BDT210 wireless 3D blueRay player on sale so I got that too. Bought my Xpand X103 glasses online. The reviews said they worked very well with the ST's so I'll let you know how that goes when they arrive.

Awesome! yes, there are others here on this forum with those glasses and they all report that they work well.
post #7753 of 8347
Reading up on the green blobs, IR and people still having fbr and buzzing. I got second thoughts and decided to wait and save up for a sharp 70" because they are supposed to drop in price at the end of April.

Then I look and the Panny dropped in price 2 times yesterday and once more over night. It's like someone is twisting my arm. It's now just $150 out of my budget. Knowing my luck, I could borrow the $150 from somewhere and then it will go a lot cheaper or I will wait and it will be out of stock. The stress this is causing is 10 times worse for me than buying a car.

I searched and found people with a line of dead pixels on the sharp 70" and diamond patterns and everything else. I know it's a noob thing to say but why can't they make a perfect tv?! I swear, I hate tvs.
post #7754 of 8347
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Originally Posted by dtbreen76 View Post

Well put. Did you ever post your settings after your prof. calibration?

I typically do not share settings because they do not translate from set to set properly (especially grayscale) and some changes were done in the service menu that integrate with basic adjustment settings so it would be meaningless.

If you don't get the set pro cal'd, you are far better off using a calibration disc vs using another person's settings.
post #7755 of 8347
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Originally Posted by DavidHir View Post

I typically do not share settings because they do not translate from set to set properly (especially grayscale) and some changes were done in the service menu that integrate with basic adjustment settings so it would be meaningless.

If you don't get the set pro cal'd, you are far better off using a calibration disc vs using another person's settings.

I would have to agree with you. I didn't know if they went into service menu on your calibration or not. I presume you utilize Custom setting most of the time for the calibration that was done?

I plan to just use DVE on the Cinema setting and compare that to D-Nice's Custom setting. I know I will not be able to convince wife that we need to spend $400 getting our tv calibrated, because I am the only one in the house that will even appreciate it.
post #7756 of 8347
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Originally Posted by agent8 View Post

Reading up on the green blobs, IR and people still having fbr and buzzing. I got second thoughts and decided to wait and save up for a sharp 70" because they are supposed to drop in price at the end of April.

Then I look and the Panny dropped in price 2 times yesterday and once more over night. It's like someone is twisting my arm. It's now just $150 out of my budget. Knowing my luck, I could borrow the $150 from somewhere and then it will go a lot cheaper or I will wait and it will be out of stock. The stress this is causing is 10 times worse for me than buying a car.

I searched and found people with a line of dead pixels on the sharp 70" and diamond patterns and everything else. I know it's a noob thing to say but why can't they make a perfect tv?! I swear, I hate tvs.

Lol, I understand. I will tell you that you are right, no TV or technology is perfect. The 2011 Panasonic's are certainly not perfect, but you have to take all of this with a grain of salt. You might not even see this stuff that we are complaining about. Most of us in this forum (particularly the plasma section it seems) are VERY critical. The issues with this tv are very minor and don't impact viewing (other than fbr, which has been fixed.) Plasma handles motion much better than LCD and will have better picture than the Sharp you are looking at. Don't worry about having a failure on the TV, as that can happen to any tv and is rare. Panasonic has a great reliability from everything that I have read.
post #7757 of 8347
Guys. I bought 2 55ST30 to replace my "42 Panny PX60Us.

The first one was mfgd August 2011 and has serial # greater than XX1215.

Just got the second one home and the serial # on the box is XX1132 and it was the only one left in that particular store.

I'm worried about FBR even though I don't know what it is! So can I resolve the issues discussed here by loading a firmware update or similar or is there a chance it will need hardware replacement etc? If that's the case I'm thinking I might travel to another store that's a little farther but has 3 units left in stock and see if I can get a later build date?
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Originally Posted by PRO710HD View Post

Guys. I bought 2 55ST30 to replace my "42 Panny PX60Us.

The first one was mfgd August 2011 and has serial # greater than XX1215.

Just got the second one home and the serial # on the box is XX1132 and it was the only one left in that particular store.

I'm worried about FBR even though I don't know what it is! So can I resolve the issues discussed here by loading a firmware update or similar or is there a chance it will need hardware replacement etc? If that's the case I'm thinking I might travel to another store that's a little farther but has 3 units left in stock and see if I can get a later build date?

Panasonic will take care of it, if your unit does not already have the update. Don't worry about it, the fix that they have DRASTICALLY reduces the issue to the point where I have not seen it at all. I did see it on my S30 and I was very sensitive to it, so I can tell you not to worry about it.
post #7759 of 8347
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Originally Posted by dtbreen76 View Post

Panasonic will take care of it, if your unit does not already have the update. Don't worry about it, the fix that they have DRASTICALLY reduces the issue to the point where I have not seen it at all. I did see it on my S30 and I was very sensitive to it, so I can tell you not to worry about it.

So is it an update via SD card or similar or do they have to open unit?
post #7760 of 8347
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Originally Posted by dtbreen76 View Post

I would have to agree with you. I didn't know if they went into service menu on your calibration or not. I presume you utilize Custom setting most of the time for the calibration that was done?

I plan to just use DVE on the Cinema setting and compare that to D-Nice's Custom setting. I know I will not be able to convince wife that we need to spend $400 getting our tv calibrated, because I am the only one in the house that will even appreciate it.

Yes, some of my calibration was done in the service menu. If using Custom mode exclusively, it's not necessarily needed. I use Custom most of the time, but sometimes Cinema mode as it has a bit more linear gamma. However, color is very slightly more accurate in Custom. I also have two different Custom settings which depend on how much light output I want (48fl or 32fl). All three modes I use look great though.
post #7761 of 8347
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Originally Posted by dtbreen76 View Post

Panasonic will take care of it, if your unit does not already have the update. Don't worry about it, the fix that they have DRASTICALLY reduces the issue to the point where I have not seen it at all. I did see it on my S30 and I was very sensitive to it, so I can tell you not to worry about it.

Thanks for the information here ^^^^^

I have the fbr issue, certain of it and I have a Nov 2011 build with a serial number of xx1205xx I made my first call yesterday to get a case started and got some person that had NO IDEA what I was talking about...she put me on hold forever and was obviously reading off a script when she came back on the line...then after going through all the stuff I already tried, I got put on hold again...only to get disconnected...too bad for her, Panasonic called me back in 10 minutes with an automated survey!?

The Custom mode helps to reduce, but its still apparent on my set. Its ALMOST where I could just get by and live with it...now its too much of an annoyance to let it go.

I will try my 2nd attempt later today, anyone have any idea how to get to a Tier 2 or upper level tech on the phone when I call Panasonic, that can actually help?
post #7762 of 8347
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Originally Posted by DavidHir View Post

Yes, some of my calibration was done in the service menu. If using Custom mode exclusively, it's not necessarily needed. I use Custom most of the time, but sometimes Cinema mode as it has a bit more linear gamma. However, color is very slightly more accurate in Custom. I also have two different Custom settings which depend on how much light output I want (48fl or 32fl). All three modes I use look great though.

How did you manage two custom modes? Maybe I am missing something, but I thought we could only save one set of settings. Is it the panel brightness that makes the brightness difference between the two?
post #7763 of 8347
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Originally Posted by 11underpar View Post

Thanks for the information here ^^^^^

I have the fbr issue, certain of it and I have a Nov 2011 build with a serial number of xx1205xx I made my first call yesterday to get a case started and got some person that had NO IDEA what I was talking about...she put me on hold forever and was obviously reading off a script when she came back on the line...then after going through all the stuff I already tried, I got put on hold again...only to get disconnected...too bad for her, Panasonic called me back in 10 minutes with an automated survey!?

The Custom mode helps to reduce, but its still apparent on my set. Its ALMOST where I could just get by and live with it...now its too much of an annoyance to let it go.

I will try my 2nd attempt later today, anyone have any idea how to get to a Tier 2 or upper level tech on the phone when I call Panasonic, that can actually help?

Just to make sure, you do have an ST30 correct? Because they will not do anything for an S30
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Originally Posted by 11underpar View Post

Thanks for the information here ^^^^^

I have the fbr issue, certain of it and I have a Nov 2011 build with a serial number of xx1205xx I made my first call yesterday to get a case started and got some person that had NO IDEA what I was talking about...she put me on hold forever and was obviously reading off a script when she came back on the line...then after going through all the stuff I already tried, I got put on hold again...only to get disconnected...too bad for her, Panasonic called me back in 10 minutes with an automated survey!?

The Custom mode helps to reduce, but its still apparent on my set. Its ALMOST where I could just get by and live with it...now its too much of an annoyance to let it go.

I will try my 2nd attempt later today, anyone have any idea how to get to a Tier 2 or upper level tech on the phone when I call Panasonic, that can actually help?

Something doesn't seem right. With that serial number you have a July build. August models have a 1215#. Of course anything can happen. You may want to go into the service menu and see if you have the latest update:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...postcount=3775

If you do then it may be counterproductive to exchange the A-board with another with the same programing.
post #7765 of 8347
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Originally Posted by dtbreen76 View Post

Just to make sure, you do have an ST30 correct? Because they will not do anything for an S30

Yes, I waited 6 additional months to ensure I would get a later 2011 build date. it IS the 55ST30...thanks.
post #7766 of 8347
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Originally Posted by whipit View Post

Something doesn't seem right. With that serial number you have a July build. August models have a 1215#. Of course anything can happen. You may want to go into the service menu and see if you have the latest update:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...postcount=3775

If you do then it may be counterproductive to exchange the A-board with another with the same programing.

thanks for that info, I read that a few weeks back and makes sense, the back of my TV states Nov 2011 and then my serial number...which didnt really make a whole lot of sense to me. My TV says its software is updated at 2.200

So if the A board isnt the fix for my particular TV, am I SOL?
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^You probably don't have FBr and are seeing some other defect on a low quality source. That being said, where are you noticing FBr?
post #7768 of 8347
On a few different sources actually...i brought up a bluray, waited until I got an entirely black screen...then pressed the Viera Link button...when the Blue box comes up on the left part of the screen, the blue box starts of grayish blue, the pops to a bit brighter blue...that was the latest test ive run....I realize that my TV was not a Nov 2011 build as stated by the sticker on the back, my serial number... is more indicative of a July build.

was going to check the firmware but cant find the link as to where those instructions were at...
post #7769 of 8347
It's in my signature (check PDP EEP, not firmware). Based on your comments you haven't seen an FBr yet. You need to test with actual high quality blu-ray content, not screens/boxes where signals are changing and who knows what else.
post #7770 of 8347
thanks...so a very stupid newbie question for you...
when in the menu, would I be adjusting these values myself to match the 'post' values shown or listed below the instructions?
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