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post #8101 of 8439
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Originally Posted by PRO710HD View Post

Has anyone been able to a snag a good deal on 3D glasses for their ST30 yet?

If you don't mind aftermarket, I got the PS3 ones and I am pretty impressed, no ghosting or anything and the color seems to stay nice and bright. They can be found on amazon for i think around 50 but i snag them on ebay for about 35 or so.
post #8102 of 8439
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Originally Posted by whipit View Post

If you didn't adjust the Standard def matrix the settings are still there and can be copied to the HD side.

You can adjust cool, normal and warm. They correspond to cool2 normal and warm2. Warm 1 and cool 1 are averages.

After an adjustment you have to leave the service mode to see any results.

Alright sounds like I am good then, basically all I did was just change the cool/warm/normal field. I didn't know if that was a setting or just showing different menus. Thanks for the response and also with the SD mode idea. I can end all paranoia
post #8103 of 8439
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Originally Posted by Shinyav View Post

Alright sounds like I am good then, basically all I did was just change the cool/warm/normal field. I didn't know if that was a setting or just showing different menus. Thanks for the response and also with the SD mode idea. I can end all paranoia

Unless you touched volume up or volume down when you were in the service menu you didnt really change anything, all you did was cycle thru the various color temps as if you were going to adjust one of them.
post #8104 of 8439
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Originally Posted by larkowski1 View Post

I bought my set (46ST30) at Christmas time (december) from Amazon. It's an April build with a corresponding older serial number and PDP EEP value of 42.5c. I updated the firmware to 2.20 because I was seeing what I thought was fbr (dragging images from my laptop screen onto the TV screen caused substantial fluctuations in brightness) and that firmware fixed that problem. I was told on this forum that a firmware update doesn't fix fbr, but I wasn't seeing it afterward so I was counting myself as fortunate.

Well, last night my wife and I watched "Everything Must Go" on BluRay and there is a scene where Will Ferrell is talking to the neighbor across the street and every time the camera switched from Ferrell to her, I definitely saw fbr (very obvious and noticeable). Argh. Guess I'll call Panasonic on Monday.

Interestingly, on my post-A board swap 42" ST30, I can still see FBr on the Pandora screen saver, albeit not as severe as before. However, on my 60" ST30 (which according to SM, is also is post A board swap) the background did not flicker once to a brighter or darker shade on the same screensaver.
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Is the fluctuating brightness or flickering still a problem on these sets? I currently found a good price on the 55 inch ST30 at a local store.
post #8106 of 8439
Sad to see this thread dying out. I can see why people "upgrade" even when the panel they have is still working. It's freakin' addictive, the excitement of it all, researching and reading all the reviews/threads...then next year's models come out and we're all kind of just left with nothing more than the memory of the emotional high of achieving technological brilliance while watching in envy all the present buyers experiencing that which we crave..ah well.
I'm really impressed with my 42" and 60" ST30 panels. I never think the 60" is too dim. I did sometimes with the 42", when it was in the living room, but in the bedroom it also, I find, never lacks for brightness.
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I agree mfrey, it will be more than a few years, hopefully, before I will be in the market again. My 42 ST30 is doing just fine in the bedroom and the VT25 in the family room is just superb. Once I tinkered with the ST's settings with the help of the folks over on the ST30 DYI Settings thread, I was able to get it to rival the VT25. I have happy campers in both rooms of viewing.

Yes, the ST was a bit dark. It was quite evident when leaving the VT25 to continue viewing a program on the ST in the bedroom. Not fun at all. The DYI settings changed that for me and hopefully for others. I do think that a Pro Calibration is a must for the larger screen ST30s. No if's, and's or but's about it. Give up a few beers or new toys and get it done. It will be some of the best money you ever spent. You will be amazed day after day and each night with the PQ these new plasmas can pump out. I will be lurking here as long as the thread pops up on the front and will help if I can.

Cheers!
post #8108 of 8439
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Originally Posted by jumpman23j View Post

Is the fluctuating brightness or flickering still a problem on these sets? I currently found a good price on the 55 inch ST30 at a local store.

Fluctuating brightness information is in my signature. It may or may not be an issue depending on the build date/serial number.
post #8109 of 8439
Jimmy/mfrey, I agree with both of you. My 60" st 30 isn't going anywhere. I love this thing. Now about pro calibration, anyone know a price and if anyone is in Utah that would calibrate my set?
post #8110 of 8439
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Originally Posted by tfoltz View Post

Fluctuating brightness information is in my signature. It may or may not be an issue depending on the build date/serial number.

Hey tfoltz, you can add me to the 72.53 60" owners, also. Mine came like this (November build, MJ1314) and on the Pandora screen saver FBr test it doesn't flicker once.
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I have a 55" st30 in my bedroom. Amazing picture. Nice and bright. Love it. No problems at all!
post #8112 of 8439
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Originally Posted by xmtlkidx View Post

Jimmy/mfrey, I agree with both of you. My 60" st 30 isn't going anywhere. I love this thing. Now about pro calibration, anyone know a price and if anyone is in Utah that would calibrate my set?

You're going to pay north of $300 for a good calibration. Check the "Display Calibration" thread sticky for a list of pro calibrators. Many of them do tours, enjoy your set.
post #8113 of 8439
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Originally Posted by KAD08BULLITT View Post

I have a 55" st30 in my bedroom. Amazing picture. Nice and bright. Love it. No problems at all!

I'll second that I have a pretty flawless 55" inch also
post #8114 of 8439
guess I have been playing a little too much Pacman CE DX on my Panny 55st30, (actually think i fell asleep and left it on overnight).
Now the maze is retained on the background on grey/white presentations from any media/source.

Tried running the built in scrolling retention a few times, but didnt get any better. any suggestions or is this permanent burn in?
FYI, did the 100 hour initial slides when purchased in Nov 11
post #8115 of 8439
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Originally Posted by D_N_G View Post

guess I have been playing a little too much Pacman CE DX on my Panny 55st30, (actually think i fell asleep and left it on overnight).
Now the maze is retained on the background on grey/white presentations from any media/source.

Tried running the built in scrolling retention a few times, but didnt get any better. any suggestions or is this permanent burn in?
FYI, did the 100 hour initial slides when purchased in Nov 11

I've heard white noise is effective sometimes in reducing IR.
post #8116 of 8439
The pixel flipper on the Disney WOW disc also works well.
post #8117 of 8439
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Originally Posted by mfrey0118 View Post

Interestingly, on my post-A board swap 42" ST30, I can still see FBr on the Pandora screen saver, albeit not as severe as before. However, on my 60" ST30 (which according to SM, is also is post A board swap) the background did not flicker once to a brighter or darker shade on the same screensaver.

I can still see it on the Pandora screensaver if I look, but it's 25% of what it was before the A-board swap and I haven't noticed it in a movie since.
post #8118 of 8439
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Originally Posted by D_N_G View Post

guess I have been playing a little too much Pacman CE DX on my Panny 55st30, (actually think i fell asleep and left it on overnight).
Now the maze is retained on the background on grey/white presentations from any media/source.

Tried running the built in scrolling retention a few times, but didnt get any better. any suggestions or is this permanent burn in?
FYI, did the 100 hour initial slides when purchased in Nov 11

I just got a Denon AVR and the background it shows for internet radio/etc burns in very quickly. Fortunately for me, 15 minutes of scrolling and it's long gone. I watch espn channels a fair bit and have never had a problem. It's weird how some sources are worse than others. I would continue the scrolling and white noise and other screensavers (itunes visualizer in fullscreen, etc) and give it some more time.
post #8119 of 8439
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Originally Posted by larkowski1 View Post

I just got a Denon AVR and the background it shows for internet radio/etc burns in very quickly. Fortunately for me, 15 minutes of scrolling and it's long gone. I watch espn channels a fair bit and have never had a problem. It's weird how some sources are worse than others. I would continue the scrolling and white noise and other screensavers (itunes visualizer in fullscreen, etc) and give it some more time.

I can attest to the burn in susceptibility of this 30 series. The 60"-er I got has "encore" burned into the bottom right hand corner. The previous owner kept the panel on Vivid and the channel on Encore and would let it run all day every day and he did this for about 2 months. Even though I did the 100 hour panel prep for him, that stupid logo won't go away, despite hours and hours of scroll bar, color slides, and Disney's Pixel Shifter. But I cannot really see it on normal content, and ultimately, I got the panel for dirt, dirt cheap (3 figures) so I'm still happy. PQ is fantastic.
post #8120 of 8439
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Originally Posted by chunon View Post

You're going to pay north of $300 for a good calibration. Check the "Display Calibration" thread sticky for a list of pro calibrators. Many of them do tours, enjoy your set.

Not necessarily. The ST30 lacks in depth controls so some calibrators might give you a discount. My guy (Don McLaughlin, Precision Video Calibrations) gave me an excellent price on my P42ST30 and still worked on it for over 3 hours. It was well worth it, also. I mean, I got really good settings from my DIY thread but it still can't compare to a professional calibration, IMO.
Another plus is that when I got my 60" ST30, I plugged in the calibrated settings for my 42" panel and they look great. It will be interesting to see how close they are in actual measurements to the settings we achieved on the smaller panel when I get Don back out to do his thing again.
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I have a 50" ST30, purchased in November 2011. I am very happy with the set.

Thank you D-Nice, Jimmy, and others in the DIY Settings thread for improving the picture quality...very helpful.

A month ago my set began a very annoying buzz that was louder when the screen was brighter. At night I watch baseball or basketball from about 15-feet away. Normally, the house is quiet, and the tv volume is on 12. With the buzz, I had to turn the volume up to 18 or 20, so the buzz was very annoying and distracting.

So, I put in a service call to Panasonic...what a hassle even though I had registered the tv...on hold...transferred...call back...fax in receipt...set up appointment...explain problem at least 5 times...reschedule...whew!

Buzz was coming from the upper-left when facing the front of the tv. Repairman listens to buzz and takes off approx. 25 screws to remove the back panel. He then tightens the top screw on a board, and the buzz is instantly gone. That screw was more than a 1/2 turn loose! He found 3 more screws that were loose.

Shinyav had a similar buzz and fix. Thank you for posting.

Thanks to all who post useful info on this forum...very educational and helpful!
post #8122 of 8439
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Originally Posted by mfrey0118 View Post

Not necessarily. The ST30 lacks in depth controls so some calibrators might give you a discount. My guy (Don McLaughlin, Precision Video Calibrations) gave me an excellent price on my P42ST30 and still worked on it for over 3 hours. It was well worth it, also. I mean, I got really good settings from my DIY thread but it still can't compare to a professional calibration, IMO.
Another plus is that when I got my 60" ST30, I plugged in the calibrated settings for my 42" panel and they look great. It will be interesting to see how close they are in actual measurements to the settings we achieved on the smaller panel when I get Don back out to do his thing again.

Glad you got a good deal but at least in my area 300 + is the going rate, Chad has done 3 of my sets and does an excellent job. Spent a good amount of time on my ST30, even tho it lacks a CMS it is still very adjustable.
post #8123 of 8439
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Originally Posted by deboy922 View Post

I have a 50" ST30, purchased in November 2011. I am very happy with the set.

Thank you D-Nice, Jimmy, and others in the DIY Settings thread for improving the picture quality...very helpful.

A month ago my set began a very annoying buzz that was louder when the screen was brighter. At night I watch baseball or basketball from about 15-feet away. Normally, the house is quiet, and the tv volume is on 12. With the buzz, I had to turn the volume up to 18 or 20, so the buzz was very annoying and distracting.

So, I put in a service call to Panasonic...what a hassle even though I had registered the tv...on hold...transferred...call back...fax in receipt...set up appointment...explain problem at least 5 times...reschedule...whew!

Buzz was coming from the upper-left when facing the front of the tv. Repairman listens to buzz and takes off approx. 25 screws to remove the back panel. He then tightens the top screw on a board, and the buzz is instantly gone. That screw was more than a 1/2 turn loose! He found 3 more screws that were loose.

Shinyav had a similar buzz and fix. Thank you for posting.

Thanks to all who post useful info on this forum...very educational and helpful!

Thanks for this useful post. I have the same tv and bought in nov. I noticed the buzz about a month after I bought it. It had a small amount of noise from the power board when I got it but this buzz is just like you describe. Good to know it can easily be fixed.
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My tv that I got in March of last year developed the same super loud buzz. Up to that point it had been dead quite. It would buzz very loud for about 10 minutes and then drop to a lower but still noticeable buzz. Drove me crazy and of course I was out of warranty. Sunday I took the back panel off and the top screw on the upper left board was loose on mine. Tightened it up and it has been quite. A hassle to do but quite easy.
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After owning my TV for about half a year I finally managed to get my hands on some glasses. When I first got it I ran the slides and used D-Nice's settings, but I don't think I was able to find specific settings for 3-D. I tried watching some 3d content (on the default cinema setting) and the picture looked pretty dark. I'm wondering if anyone has 3d settings by D-Nice and if not, can share what you're using?
post #8126 of 8439
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Originally Posted by Zeni View Post

After owning my TV for about half a year I finally managed to get my hands on some glasses. When I first got it I ran the slides and used D-Nice's settings, but I don't think I was able to find specific settings for 3-D. I tried watching some 3d content (on the default cinema setting) and the picture looked pretty dark. I'm wondering if anyone has 3d settings by D-Nice and if not, can share what you're using?

I have D-nice's settings but they are not for 3D and I agree that it's pretty dark. I hear most 3D tv's and glasses are darker than usual. I'm thinking of turning up the brightness on the 3D channel. If there are any good 3D settings to use, I'd like to know as well.
post #8127 of 8439
Ugh, my 55st30 has developed a loud buzz in the past week or so in the upper left corner as well. God it is annoying.

Also, my brightness control has absolutely zero effect on the picture! Has anyone else seen this? Whether at zero or 100 the pic is the same.

The other thing that is bugging me right now, and has always been a problem is noise in black areas of the screen at certain times. It's not present with a high def signal but for instance going to HULU or Amazon it is very noticeable. It's like streaks in the black bar area.
post #8128 of 8439
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Originally Posted by usabrian View Post

Ugh, my 55st30 has developed a loud buzz in the past week or so in the upper left corner as well. God it is annoying.

Also, my brightness control has absolutely zero effect on the picture! Has anyone else seen this? Whether at zero or 100 the pic is the same.

The other thing that is bugging me right now, and has always been a problem is noise in black areas of the screen at certain times. It's not present with a high def signal but for instance going to HULU or Amazon it is very noticeable. It's like streaks in the black bar area.

Are you sure you don't have CATS and/or AGC on? If not, then I would call Panasonic for a repair. As far as the noise in non-HD signals...that's standard for all plasmas.
post #8129 of 8439
Hey all- new member here and haven't posted very much. Seeking some advice in regards to a 65" ST30.

So I purchased the ST30 on 05/24/2011 from Best Buy and did not buy the protection plan. It has been great and I have followed some of your alls calibration advice and settings setup. I have LOVED this TV and have gotten nothing but compliments on it thanks to you all! I "think" (and hope) I ran slides long enough when I first got it but now I am unsure due to what has happened. On 05/23/12 (WHEW) the television started acting up. It has maybe 20 vertical lines that are faint gray. Also, the skin tones and overall picture are very strange. I can most closely describe it as a radar looking screen off of your local weather television station. Anyways, I ended up calling Panasonic and they were VERY helpful. They sent out a In-home TV repair co. to check it out and order the parts for the repairs. Since I don't know what this is, I am asking for any advice. The repair co. said they will be replacing the main board. Now, hopefully the repair goes all to plan and it gets resolved. My question is, do i need to run slides all over again? If so, slides mean just run a blu ray on standard picture settings AND on zoom for about 100+ hours correct? I'm pretty green to the whole deal but would love to know what steps you guys would take in order for this NOT to happen again. Obviously I snuck it the 1 year warranty with Panasonic so I want to make sure all the correct steps are made. Thanks so much in advance for any responses.

Sadly, Panasonic had me do a "hard reset" to the TV so I lost all of D-nice's settings for cinema AND custom. Do I just need to DM him after I run slides (if I need to)?

Thanks again,
post #8130 of 8439
I just bought a display model on clearance (TC-P55ST30). It was turned off at the store and they assured me that it was in perfect condition. When I got it home and turned it on, there is a single vertical line running down the screen (should I post a pic??). Uh oh.

I checked around, drove to another store, and was able to get another display model of equal caliber for the same price. This one looks great.

I started thinking about my situation. Both TVs have substantial hours. But I may be able to get some parts replaced with new parts on the TV that has the vertical line. Not sure if that would put me in a better situation or worse situation?

Would you have Panasonic fix the TV with the vertical line and return the one that seems to work, or vice versa??

I have 90 days to play around with both of these before I have to make a decision.

Are there other problems I should be looking for? I have heard of brightness fluctuations.
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