Official Samsung UNXXD8000 Owners' Thread - Page 8

So far I have only seen the 55D7000, it is my opinion that this is the best 3D LED set, I watched 3D and saw no crosstalk and the glasses are very light weight.

Yes, lets say a TV has 30 milliseconds of input lag in game mode. This mean there will be a 30 millisecond delay on all all games. Basically your xbox/PS3 sends the video signal to the TV. Then TV takes that image and processes it to make it look better. This is where the lag comes from. The more your TV manipulates the image, the more lag is added. The reason game mode's degrade the image quality is because the TV is doing less image processing to reduce the lag. Some TVs do this better then others. Samsungs are notorious for not being good.

The Rock Band and Guitar Hero lag test are really not that accurate but better then nothing.

http://www.flatpanelshd.com/focus.ph...&id=1229335064

If you wanted to accurately test the TV you would need a camera and a computer. The most accurate way to do this test is to use an old CRT monitor but I know most people dont have those laying around. I know I dont. You could just use a laptop and that would give people a great idea of what the input lag is.

So basically open this page on your web browser...
http://tft.vanity.dk/inputlag.html

Then plug your computer into your TV. Clone your computer's image onto both your computer screen and your TV.

Now press play on that web page. Then get your camera and take a few pictures. Make sure you get both screens in the picture. Also put your shutter speed up on your camera if you can.

The pictures will probably show your computers Screen is ahead of the TV's. We just look at the numbers and this will give us a very good idea of what the tvs input lag is. Also don't forget to test it in game mode to get the lowest possible.

Despite some companies (Sears) reportedly having 65 incher for July for now I am bit more careful about this as Samsung itself never confirmed the 65 is coming. 60" is only in D8000 and looks like a flagship.

You must be the bestest evarz!!?11!

I played Killzone 3 Warzone mode last night. Was 1st place on our team with our team winning 4 : 3. My "atrocious" input lag and low level of play certainly helped me...

Look, not bragging, but that was the result. Besides, I don't play to be the best, I play to have fun. I don't even know why you're making such a fuss about something I don't notice.

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Anyways, for those of you who have followed this TV since the beginning, did Sammy promise a touchscreen remote to be included or was it only the app that they released?

https://market.android.com/details?i...msung.remoteTV

I will take pictures of mine this weekend. I love this tv. Even on the default settings it still looked more colorful than the Sony 720 I have. I looked over the menus and smart hub but because it took me a while to rebuild my pc i just haven't had anytime to dig deep. So far this is the best (Led/Lcd) I've owned. Only complaint is no 3d glasses so i can't test 3d. I submitted the online forms for the glasses and qwerty remote and if I remember right it said 8 to 10 weeks

Last years 65" C8000 was originally scheduled for July 2010 but never arrived until the fall and in extremely low volume keeping the prices up and the feedback for the past 5 months has been pathetic on this forum for whatever reason and seemingly opposite of the 55" & < models.

These folks have been paying over $5K and the end result has not been very positive with numerous owners processing returns. I like the D8000 because the silver bezel is so thin it's barely noticeable - not a fan of silver on any panel unless of course its in my kitchen with the other appliances but this thing almost appears black because of it being so narrow. Truly think Samsung will be forced to lower that 65" pricing as a slew of 65", 70" and 72" competitors come to market. (Sony, Sharp, LG, Toshiba, Vizio)

Yes last year 65" saga is not encouraging.

If there is analogy the question is when the 65" C8000 was announced last year? Was it together with
other sizes or later?

Well my 46 d8000 will be here tommorow. Very excited.

hmm, today Samsung customer service team took mine and now I got new TV set. I took pictures of it with gray background again.
1st pic is old one and 2nd is new.

As you can see, there's no big enhancement even with new one. Edge is still not uniform gray. It seems inevitable since D8000 is not local dimming.

And now I think it's time to enjoy my TV smartly w/o concerning too much on TV itself.

Hello, freebits:

Think not, but I think there is an improvement in the second photo. I also think like you, and will do well to enjoy the excellent TV.

Would you please make a comment on the viewing angle. In the series "C" undertook much the quality of the image to open the viewing angle.

I am very grateful to move their experiences.

Regards.

I need 6ms or less lag or else I can't be competitive. Scratch these of the list I guess.

i would not be happy with that not for the money you have to pay for it,

I totally agree. At the price point of a D8000 my expectations are much higher. All the talk and comparisons of micro dimming and micro dimming plus doesn't mean squat if they can't consistently build a panel that doesn't bleed light all the way around the bezel.

Hello freebits, can you please show us how to run this test. Thanks

Does this only happen when the credits are rolling at the end of a movie or if the screen is pitch Black?

As much as I don't like this either, will it really make a difference when watching a full screen image or a movie with Black bars on the top or side?

If you can see the light bleed when watching a widescreen movie that has the bars on top and bottom, this could get annoying but it is' only when there is no signal (as most of the pictures that are posted showing this tend to be on an all black, grey or blue screen almost like there is no signal) then what would it really impact on day to day viewing?

I am just trying to learn the impact this has on actual movie watching?

Thanks!

Freebits, other than that one problem you have found, how do you like the tv so far?

to the top...just a friendly reminder if someone can help answer this
This info should be found on the side of the box near the bar code i believe, not sure about behind the pannel.

Thanks!

freebits, if i were you, i would demand another replacement. I think I couldnt live with this lack of black uniformity, Because most of movies have this bars up and down, adn this is really annoying. I had this backlight bleeding problem in a 24'' iMac and they had to replace the panel 3 times.

Care to share the reliable lag measurement results you have access to?


He's having problems with gray uniformity, not black. Still an issue, but not as bad.

he is using his pc for this, all you would have to do is go into MS paint and make a huge picture of any color you want.

Then save it and reopen it in the gallery and switch to full screen. (that way nothing else is on the tv.

Or you could possibly use youtube and find something that will work.

I cant think of many other ways to completely hide EVERYTHING on the desktop.

Well, as I post before, the black is different from gray. The attched is black and only mouse cursor is in the center of screen. no backlight bleeding in black. Isn't it interesting?
I have awesome black when watching movie with letterbox.

You can d/l the following software.

http://www.monitor4u.co.kr/ScreenTes..._v323vista.zip

Install it in windows and run the main program.
Then you may click 'full screen color' menu. It have several gray colors like what I've shown here before.

I'd like to see your uniformity as well.

The following link tells us the reviewer's comment on the viewing angle. He says 30 degree is okay but I think I'm fine when it's more then 45.
D7000 is almost identical with D8000 except dimming tech so you can regard it as D8000's capability.

http://www.techradar.com/reviews/aud...view?artc_pg=3

Are we able to turn on and off the auto dimming on the Samsung D series sets again? I was able to do that from the service menu in my older Samsung LED.

There is no doubt now that old set was damaged. Now the light spill is quite symmetric. The question is how serious this is in normal viewing.

Apart of the edge area backlight is quite uniform. I realized now that by moving LEDs to the sides Samsung made quite a trick improving subjective quality since sides of the display are not so critical.

With black picture LEDs are switched off, no?

wow! this is quite interesting... i've never seen anything like that...

Anyway, would you please take a picture of a movie with the bars (not in fullscreen) or tell us if you noticed any bleeding with it?
I would be very thankful.

Thank you in advance.

holy sh**, is this the best black level the tv can give in an absolute dark room??

is this picture while watching something or the tv is off?

This picture must be as if he was watching something, it seems it's on his PC input (guessing this cause of the mouse) which would make it like it's on an actual feed.

Feel free to correct me if i'm wrong.