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post #2641 of 8401
4/24/11 at 7:52pm
I agree about the VT30 crushing the blacks. I think the VT25 crushed black as well but apparently every review company disagrees with me.
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post #2642 of 8401
4/24/11 at 7:53pm
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I am exchanging the TV because of the issues I have in general, with the light at the bottom being one of them. That said, the TV has grown on me, and I like it quite a bit. Hopefully my next set will be closer to perfect, but if not, I will calibrate and be happy with what I have. At the end of the day, there is NO perfect TV, not even the mythical Pioneer Kuro's (I have extensive experience with Kuros, and no, they are not perfect either, though they have the best picture I've yet seen), and for that reason, I'm willing to count the beautiful aesthetics of this set as a major plus. I know that is blasphemy to some, but it looks wonderful in my living room, and that's a nice plus, especially for someone who's live-in girlfriend is a architect and interior designer!

I'm not going to jump on the Sony HX929 bandwagon... yet. Let's see that TV actually released before I decide it's DEFINITELY better than the D8000 just because it's a full-array. Hope this helps!

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I have an exchange coming from Samsung because of this issue. I had a tech come out and look at it and they acknowledged it and Samsung agreed to replace it with no hassle. The problem is that the loose bezel is causing a glow effect that comes out of the bottom of the screen all across the bottom, like a half inch line of light. For me, it warrants a replacement on a tv that costs as much as this one.

Did the white light at the bottom of your screen go all the way across or just part of it? Mine covered at least half the length of the TV. I can make some of it go away by pressing on the bezel, but some still remains. I also tried to press lightly on the screen which caused more light to shine through and the screen to move in a little. It moved back once I took my finger of it. I think I will contact Amazon for a replacement.
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post #2643 of 8401
4/24/11 at 7:59pm
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Originally Posted by amjustice View Post

Let me try this again...

Personally spoke to Samsung reps at CES who confirmed 65" model of the D8000 was coming out the second half of this year. He also stated that last year they were surprised by the demand for the 65" version of the C8000 and they would likely be easier to come by this year

Yeah, I was at CES. I talked to a good 15 different people at the Samsung booth. A lot of them talked a lot about the 65" versions of the TVs not being shown. Not one of them confirmed they'd be shipping, although all of them were what I'd describe as vague or hopeful.

And quite frankly, you trying to top current information with information from early January is pointless.

It's almost May, and nothing has been announced by Samsung. So you can keep typing it as if doing so makes it true, but there is a very good chance there will not be a D8000 65" this year. And citing CES conversations as "confirmation" when product plans have clearly changed radically since them for at least one competitor (LG), well, yeah, that proves nothing.
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post #2644 of 8401
4/24/11 at 11:24pm
Watch this video

53 second absolute black

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKs2m...embedded#at=19








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post #2645 of 8401
4/24/11 at 11:42pm
It's an impressive video. None of what happens when they shut off the entire backlight is impressive, however.
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post #2646 of 8401
4/25/11 at 6:48am
Sorry this thread is way too long to find everything in it so I'll ask....

Anybody having problems logging into Samsung App Store? I always get "Network Interface Error". Network is fine as I can use most preloaded apps.

Also Facebook keeps getting invalid user name when it is absolutely 100% correct username and password.

Thanks.

There seems to be scattered issues with this all over the place with no solid answer....

http://forums.cnet.com/7723-13973_102-518504.html
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post #2647 of 8401
4/25/11 at 8:36am
Mortal Kombat 9 on the 55D8000

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWENisLF4PA
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post #2648 of 8401
4/25/11 at 8:47am
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That's some nice bleed right there...
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4/25/11 at 8:55am
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Originally Posted by MaXPL View Post

That's some nice bleed right there...

Not sure if that's sarcasm that is the Samsung light logo on the bezel of the TV. I remember when u got your c8000 TV and praise it, now all of a sudden you just don't like the d8000 or edge lit lcds at all. What gives man?
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post #2650 of 8401
4/25/11 at 9:28am
i'm not talking about the logo. there's obvious light bleed on the bottom right and left corners which continues up the sides; on a blank screen no less.

and yeh i was a happy c8000 owner the first month, but then i started watching movies on it on a regular basis and noticed a bunch of its flaws. still a good set for daytime viewing, but i've become more critical of LED tvs after owning my c8000 for a year now.
i guess i'm more snobbish now and only seek perfection. it's like many here have said, had i not started posting at AVS and learned about lcd's flaws, i'd likely never care for them.

additionally, i've started to hate the look of my c8000 aesthetically which sort of carries over to my dislike of the d8000 to some extent.
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4/25/11 at 10:10am
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Originally Posted by jiopsi View Post

All I see is shots from wide angle, who watches TV critical on those angles?

VT30 is hideous TV compared to D8000, it's like that broad you find from bar when you are dead hammered, you want to do it lights off. VT30 picture has problems also, it has floating blacks, rising blacks, floating brightness, buzzing, posterization, rentention, phospor trailing... you name it, it probably has it. No thanks.

I'm still lmao, the VT is perhaps the best since the legendary Kuro. Hundreds of thousands agreed by voting it best of show at CES....2 years in a row. I was one of those people. Hundreds of thousands of true electronic enthusiast, not the typical buyer. I love the D8000 but there will be no 65". Buzzing indeed..
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post #2652 of 8401
4/25/11 at 10:27am
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Originally Posted by rogo View Post

Let me try this again, for those new to the thread:

1) There is no announced 65" D8000 model. There is reason to believe that the current edge-lit design will not even work for a 65" model.

2) There is no 75" model of any kind. There was a prototype shown at CES

3) If you are hoping for a 75" Samsung, know this: It will probably ship no sooner than 6 months after they actually announce a 75" TV and give it a model number. If you follow IFA or CES, look for such an announcement.

rogo presents depressively pessimistic outlook for Sammy .
On more optimistic note I think Samsung will offer both 65" and 75" though the last one is more problematic. Why they will offer? Simply because Samsung is not going to retreat from big size. This is the question of their ego and brand marketing, they must be there. Sony, LG will have 65", Sharp is bombing with 70" and no Samsung???

Another issue is how many 65" and for how much they will provide.

I do not see any problem with scaling edgelit to 65" and even 75". This is just scaling of diffuser and LEDs.

75" is more problematic due to the Sharp 70". It will be hard to sell additional 5" for bags of money, even 65" will be hard sell. But Samsung will try I think. They may sell if they can provide versions which are improved comparing to the current sets and precisaly manufactured - (almost) perfect sets.
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4/25/11 at 10:54am
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Originally Posted by MaXPL View Post
i'm not talking about the logo. there's obvious light bleed on the bottom right and left corners which continues up the sides; on a blank screen no less.

and yeh i was a happy c8000 owner the first month, but then i started watching movies on it on a regular basis and noticed a bunch of its flaws. still a good set for daytime viewing, but i've become more critical of LED tvs after owning my c8000 for a year now.
i guess i'm more snobbish now and only seek perfection. it's like many here have said, had i not started posting at AVS and learned about lcd's flaws, i'd likely never care for them.

additionally, i've started to hate the look of my c8000 aesthetically which sort of carries over to my dislike of the d8000 to some extent.
I understand being more critical of LCD flaws because of the forums, you learn what problems are and how to identify them. I don't ever see myself buying a low-end budget TV for my movie viewing. I too liked my c8000 but it has its flaws, my d8000 fixes all the old issues but creates new uniformity issues. Overall I'm pleased with my d8000, but this time next year I'll have a new TV for sure. The d8000 isn't a perfect TV and can be improved on so I'll end up with the next best thing.
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post #2654 of 8401
4/25/11 at 11:11am
Any thoughts as to what problems 2012 TV's will either recreate or debut??

I just have a feeling that a technology won't stick around long enough for anyone to nail a truly problem-free set. (Unlike CRT which was stuck indefinitely for many years/decades).

It's not that the engineers/designers aren't trying, it's just that they have such a small window to work with, it's here & gone in a blur & there's just not enough time to perfect anything.
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post #2655 of 8401
4/25/11 at 11:12am
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Originally Posted by gagit811 View Post
I understand being more critical of LCD flaws because of the forums, you learn what problems are and how to identify them. I don't ever see myself buying a low-end budget TV for my movie viewing. I too liked my c8000 but it has its flaws, my d8000 fixes all the old issues but creates new uniformity issues. Overall I'm pleased with my d8000, but this time next year I'll have a new TV for sure. The d8000 isn't a perfect TV and can be improved on so I'll end up with the next best thing.
The problem is that many of us have 3-4 year old TV's and older that we marveled for superb PQ. Wanting to upgrade into the 3D realm we bought the flagship model of one of the most praised brands in the market today and are finding ourselves underwhelmed compared to our old sets. Forget that sets like our old ones can be had for $1000 now. Samsung should either not be charging this much for the D8000, or they shouldn't be letting them out with the issues they are having.

The oanel in these sets definitely has potential, but either the software or the backlight design is cause for some nasty issues that pop up just when you think you might finally be ignoring them.

I'm thinking maybe the HX929 will be worth looking at. These sets are great and would be worth it for $1500 for sure. $3K+ is just not reasonable when there are such issues.
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post #2656 of 8401
4/25/11 at 11:15am
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Originally Posted by Cyber Chulo View Post
Mortal Kombat 9 on the 55D8000

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWENisLF4PA
Most of the time Mortal Kombat looks good on my set (both PS3 and 360). It's only when the camera pans across some the more solid backgrounds like the sky the uniformity issues show up. This TV is such a mixed bag for me. Sometimes it looks awesome (playing video games) and sometimes it looks like crap (watching sports). I just don't think at this price point there should be such a varience.
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4/25/11 at 11:25am
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Originally Posted by Category 5 View Post
The problem is that many of us have 3-4 year old TV's and older that we marveled for superb PQ. Wanting to upgrade into the 3D realm we bought the flagship model of one of the most praised brands in the market today and are finding ourselves underwhelmed compared to our old sets. Forget that sets like our old ones can be had for $1000 now. Samsung should either not be charging this much for the D8000, or they shouldn't be letting them out with the issues they are having.

The oanel in these sets definitely has potential, but either the software or the backlight design is cause for some nasty issues that pop up just when you think you might finally be ignoring them.

I'm thinking maybe the HX929 will be worth looking at. These sets are great and would be worth it for $1500 for sure. $3K+ is just not reasonable when there are such issues.
I have to agree with you 100% here. My 52B750 CCFL LCD (also a Samsung product) was a very uniform set. It was slightly brighter on the sides but on any IRE it had no noticable unifomity issues. When this set retails for another $1,500 more I expect at least the same experience plus the design and picture quality improvements. It seems that instead on some areas a step has been taken backwards.
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4/25/11 at 11:27am
What model number 3d glasses do you get for the voucher that comes with this TV
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4/25/11 at 11:28am
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Originally Posted by Tyrindor View Post
You just have small text in the middle, try a bigger object that takes up 1/3 of the screen or credits that have lots of text on the screen at once, then go a mere 10 degrees off angle. You will get some pretty noticable bleeding, even on the USA model. In the rare case you bought the TV just for you, and you always sit right in front of the TV.. then this is problem. However, most people are not going to be sitting directly in front of the TV. Most people buying a TV this expensive regularly have 3+ people watching from different angles.

Mine looks just like yours too, in that situation.. the situation in the above pictures is drastically different though. Edgelit TVs have to increase the lighting to get more even light to the center, you have barely any light needed.. so everything is black.

Given the pictures are of the EU model which lacks local dimming 'plus', the USA model won't be THAT bad.. but I still don't consider it acceptable for 3 grand. There are better solutions out there that don't suffer from this at all, around the same price point.

The D8000 is a great set, but it's not the best at it's price point. If you are happy with your set, don't let other people tell you it's not worth the money. It's completely your decision.



Strictly my opinion: The 46" version of the TV has the best quality, even the 55" starts showing edgelitting issues because it has a much larger area to light up. I wouldn't touch the 60"/65", and consider the 55" the "sweet point" between lighting issues and size.
I'm wondering which sets at the same price point are out there now that are "better solutions" - clearly you didn't know about them when you purchased this TV (or else you wouldn't have bought this set, no?) I'm legitimately interested, as I'm not overwhelmed by this set myself. If there are better options that I should be looking at, I would like to know so that I can begin researching them. However, if you're referring to the Sony set that you've continually alluded to despite it not even being out yet, that would be good to know as well.
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post #2660 of 8401
4/25/11 at 12:33pm
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Originally Posted by gagit811 View Post
I understand being more critical of LCD flaws because of the forums, you learn what problems are and how to identify them. I don't ever see myself buying a low-end budget TV for my movie viewing. I too liked my c8000 but it has its flaws, my d8000 fixes all the old issues but creates new uniformity issues. Overall I'm pleased with my d8000, but this time next year I'll have a new TV for sure. The d8000 isn't a perfect TV and can be improved on so I'll end up with the next best thing.
Dude - I thought I was bad with a 55"' sony dlp, 40" xbr2, 50" kuro, and 37" vizio xvt and now the 55 d8000. you get a new tv every year? I am pretty much out of rooms - do you sell your previous sets?
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4/25/11 at 12:42pm
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Originally Posted by Category 5 View Post
The problem is that many of us have 3-4 year old TV's and older that we marveled for superb PQ. Wanting to upgrade into the 3D realm we bought the flagship model of one of the most praised brands in the market today and are finding ourselves underwhelmed compared to our old sets. Forget that sets like our old ones can be had for $1000 now. Samsung should either not be charging this much for the D8000, or they shouldn't be letting them out with the issues they are having.

The oanel in these sets definitely has potential, but either the software or the backlight design is cause for some nasty issues that pop up just when you think you might finally be ignoring them.

I'm thinking maybe the HX929 will be worth looking at. These sets are great and would be worth it for $1500 for sure. $3K+ is just not reasonable when there are such issues.
You are right, I've had my share of hdtvs. Today with these +3K TVs you would expect perfection. But like I said I've had my share of TVs some in the 4k range and I can tell you every TV has its flaws here or there no matter the cost. You really have to choose your poison and what you can live with. Some people look for flaws, but once u find them you will always see it. I too want the best of the best but I understand every TV has pros and cons, so long the pros are greater then the cons I'm ok with that.
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4/25/11 at 12:42pm
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Originally Posted by mikej3131 View Post
What model number 3d glasses do you get for the voucher that comes with this TV
They should be the ones that have the thicker bluetooth behind the ear - at least that was the image on the voucher. I have not received mine yet but I think hey are the 3300 cr or gr version
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4/25/11 at 12:48pm
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Dude - I thought I was bad with a 55"' sony dlp, 40" xbr2, 50" kuro, and 37" vizio xvt and now the 55 d8000. you get a new tv every year? I am pretty much out of rooms - do you sell your previous sets?
My 8yr son has a 42" TV in His room, I've got TVs in almost every room plus one in storage. My wife is like ok enough is enough, high end gear is my thing. I don't drink or smoke so I get my joys of life out of my toys. I can afford it so why not I say. I usually don't sell my TVs but my brother wants my c8000, I think I will let him have it to make room for a new TV.
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4/25/11 at 12:55pm
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Originally Posted by gagit811 View Post
My 8yr son has a 42" TV in His room, I've got TVs in almost every room plus one in storage. My wife is like ok enough is enough, high end gear is my thing. I don't drink or smoke so I get my joys of life out of my toys. I can afford it so why not I say. I usually don't sell my TVs but my brother wants my c8000, I think I will let him have it to make room for a new TV.
more power to you - I drink, smoke, have an exwife...probably bc I keep buying more gadgets.
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4/25/11 at 1:21pm
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Originally Posted by Hiresolution View Post
I'm still lmao, the VT is perhaps the best since the legendary Kuro. Hundreds of thousands agreed by voting it best of show at CES....2 years in a row. I was one of those people. Hundreds of thousands of true fanboys, not the objective buyer. I love the D8000 but there will be no 65". Buzzing indeed..
Fixed for ya. Good luck with buzzing.
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4/25/11 at 1:28pm
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Originally Posted by mikej3131 View Post
What model number 3d glasses do you get for the voucher that comes with this TV
It looks like the low end rechargeable glasses. I'll know shortly, the online tracking for the voucher has finally changed from "received pending validation" to "processed" indicating it will ship soon. Has anyone gotten a shipping notice yet? I submitted the voucher online on March 15th.
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4/25/11 at 1:40pm
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more power to you - I drink, smoke, have an exwife...probably bc I keep buying more gadgets.
I don't mean to come across all high and mighty. Back in school I partied with the best of them, I've never been a smoker but enjoyed my share of beer. Now I've got a wife 2 kids bills, I don't hang with my friends so much anymore outside the PPV get together at my house. So my getting TVs is just my thing, I'm not allowed much else for me anymore.
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4/25/11 at 1:48pm
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Originally Posted by jiopsi View Post

You are right Hi Resolution, I agree the Samsung blows

I know you do
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4/25/11 at 1:53pm
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Originally Posted by gagit811 View Post

I don't mean to come across all high and mighty. Back in school I partied with the best of them, I've never been a smoker but enjoyed my share of beer. Now I've got a wife 2 kids bills, I don't hang with my friends so much anymore outside the PPV get together at my house. So my getting TVs is just my thing, I'm not allowed much else for me anymore.

didn't come off that way...no worries...Glad she at least affords you that luxury...
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4/25/11 at 2:50pm
FINALLY AN EMAIL FROM SAMSUNG ABOUT 3D GLASSES


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