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post #3091 of 8401
I didn't read your post carefully...the cinema black is only to dim the letterbox bars...not sure what is causing your issue, sorry
post #3092 of 8401
This is the type of post that is causing serious confusion: HERE


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Originally Posted by bpmurr

The problem with the 55D8000 it's beauty is only skin deep. The set itself has worse picture quality than it's lower end D6400 cousin. I'm looking forward to getting my hands on the 929 after the first big price drop.

Then Reggie's reply:

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Originally Posted by reggie319 View Post

At the beginning of the year I would have agreed with you.
But the newer manufactered sets are of much higher quality and produces the PQ that is absolutely amazing!
post #3093 of 8401
Where are people like Reggie getting this idea that the "new April/May builds" of the D8000 are "much improved". Why do people do this without stating sources of their comments? Ugh.
post #3094 of 8401
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Originally Posted by f8xiqbq View Post

Is there any way to stop the following from happening? It is the one thing annoying me.

Credits roll & dim white text is displayed in the center of black screen. I then bring up the info bar for the movie which is located along the very bottom. The white text changes brightness considerably. When I turn off the info bar, the text dims once again. My settings are movie mode, back-light 8, gamma -1, nothing else changed. If I play with the back-light it seems to have no effect on the brightness of the text.

Your display does not have full array back-lit local dimming. The lighting is from the edge and the ability to "dim" selective parts of the screen is not there. If the picture during the movie is just fine, I would not worry about slight dimming of text during credits when you pull up a menu. Or just don't pull up the info bar.
post #3095 of 8401
There are a few things that could cause this, one is the eco setting, it dims the picture according to the room lighting. Motion led is another that dims the picture according to motion on the screen. I would turn these settings off and test it. Even tho the is edge led the picture normal doesn't jump brightness.
post #3096 of 8401
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Originally Posted by milk View Post

Where are people like Reggie getting this idea that the "new April/May builds" of the D8000 are "much improved". Why do people do this without stating sources of their comments? Ugh.

According to Samsung's registration page my set is from 3/31/2011, almost April. Should I be happy or not? Just kidding.

Although my TV shows pinkish tones and higher brights at the left side and grey palettes show minor non-uniformity issues those flaws are invisible, nonexistent, while watching any source material: movies, photos, games.
My TV is 46", this is not my first Samsung LED TV, and in my opinion its performance overcomes any previous TV I had.

I have an US edition outside the US and I'm happy that I haven't read this forum before buying it, otherwise I wouldn't have bought it and I'd have made a mistake. Don't take it wrong this forum is great, I came here to get more from my TV and instead after reading pages and pages I started feeling I have bought a time bomb. Where I live this set is not being sold, there is no exchange policy and hardly have any warranty, not to mention that I paid much more for it than you do. It is amazing for me to read how easy is for you to replace sets; I envy that although I sometime feel you abuse the system. (I'm not talking about anyone in particular and I'd like to have half the benefits you have)
post #3097 of 8401
Awesome design...great tv...enough said
post #3098 of 8401
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Originally Posted by ArthurL View Post

I just picked up my 55" set this afternoon. It came with the 3D Starter Kit (includes 2x 3D 3100 3D glasses and all 4 Shrek movies in 3D) and the store practically threw in the Skype camera. I was expecting not being able to control the TV with my Harmony One remote, but thankfully Logitech did have codes in their database from the IR remote (which didn't come with my TV, I only have the QWERTY remote).

I love this TV!

Interestingly, when I registered my set on the Samsung website, it read that my TV was only manufactured a week ago on the 30th of April (revision H302).

ArthurL,

What codes are you talking about? When I go into the logitech website, it does not recognize the UN55D8000 for my Harmony One.

What am I doing wrong?

Thnx,

Robert
post #3099 of 8401
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Originally Posted by robsis View Post

When I go into the logitech website, it does not recognize the UN55D8000 for my Harmony One.

What am I doing wrong?

I didn't have any difficulty with the Harmony software for setting up a UN55D8000 for my 650, so the codes should be there for the Harmony One.
post #3100 of 8401
I have the Harmony One also and the UN55D8000 was there when I ran the Logitech Harmony Remote application. It updates itself when you open it.
post #3101 of 8401
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Originally Posted by robsis View Post

ArthurL,

What codes are you talking about? When I go into the logitech website, it does not recognize the UN55D8000 for my Harmony One.

What am I doing wrong?

Thnx,

Robert

I'm a Harmony novice but I do know that there is a standalone Harmony software package and 2 web driven applications (sites). Maybe you're not all using the same software.
post #3102 of 8401
Robert,
Version 7.7.0 on my Harmony One sees the D8000 just fine. When you open the software click on downloads to ensure you have the latest software/firmware.
post #3103 of 8401
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Originally Posted by milk View Post

This is the type of post that is causing serious confusion: HERE




Then Reggie's reply:

Well CNET, HDGuru, and I have TVs with poor uniformity. I haven't seen on person on the forum with a bad early build post pics of a successful replacement. Unit then I'll just say that some sets might be slightly better or it's not an issue for the tastes of that particular owner. On a $3k plus TV picture quality should be of the utmost importance. On a sub $1k TV even I would have different picture quality expectations.
post #3104 of 8401
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Originally Posted by milk View Post

Where are people like Reggie getting this idea that the "new April/May builds" of the D8000 are "much improved". Why do people do this without stating sources of their comments? Ugh.

People don't see the uniformity issue because they do not know what to look for or they set up the set to reduce it. All builds dates are the same, people are trying to convince themselves and others their set is OK. Honestly the uniformity is the same on all build dates, it is not that bad of an issue if you set up the set to hide it. The set I have was one of the first built and the uniformity issue while there does not bother as much as the banding on the LG LX9500 or the ghosting on last years 3D sets. CNET review lack credibility to me, while informative they also take in advertising dollars which will effect ratings and reviews. Most of the people on this forum who own this set still love it, probably 20% feel the uniformity is a deal breaker and exchange the sets for something else and move to another sets forum and find something to complain about there

I am sure the Sony 929 will have much better uniformity then the D8000 (Sony's never had this issue) but there will be some other issue people will find to complain about.
post #3105 of 8401
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Originally Posted by CMPMERIDIAN View Post

People don't see the uniformity issue because they do not know what to look for or they set up the set to reduce it. All builds dates are the same, people are trying to convince themselves and others their set is OK. Honestly the uniformity is the same on all build dates, it is not that bad of an issue if you set up the set to hide it. The set I have was one of the first built and the uniformity issue while there does not bother as much as the banding on the LG LX9500 or the ghosting on last years 3D sets. CNET review lack credibility to me, while informative they also take in advertising dollars which will effect ratings and reviews. Most of the people on this forum who own this set still love it, probably 20% feel the uniformity is a deal breaker and exchange the sets for something else and move to another sets forum and find something to complain about there

I am sure the Sony 929 will have much better uniformity then the D8000 (Sony's never had this issue) but there will be some other issue people will find to complain about.

In USA I supose, because I know Sony´s few models with lack of uniformity here, in Europe.
post #3106 of 8401
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Originally Posted by Tadeus View Post

In USA I supose, because I know Sony´s few models with lack of uniformity here, in Europe.

Even in the USA- my last tv was a Sony lcd and it had uniformity issues but nowhere near as bad as my Samsung. The flashlighting was horrible though.
post #3107 of 8401
Thnx, all...updated the software on my Harmony One, and it recognized my UN55D8000...thnx to all for your comments.

....I guess I thought the software updated automatically but it didn't......

Now to play around with the settings on this awesome set....
post #3108 of 8401
GENTLEMEN.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksAYIi3k_iY

There's like 4 pixels stuck right there in a cluster.

Is that enough for samsung to do a repair or replacement? If so, how does it work? Do they come out and replace the panel, or do I get a new TV?

Here's a photo of it.

post #3109 of 8401
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Originally Posted by CMPMERIDIAN View Post

People don't see the uniformity issue because they do not know what to look for or they set up the set to reduce it. All builds dates are the same, people are trying to convince themselves and others their set is OK.

Thanks for the reply CMP.

Until it can be demonstrated that newer UND8000s are in some way being "improved" or "corrected" by samsung, uninformed posters need to stop perpetuating the misinformation that the newer UND8000s are in some way different. Please stop it. It's entirely untrue and confusing readers. Thank you!
post #3110 of 8401
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Originally Posted by milk View Post

Thanks for the reply CMP.

Until it can be demonstrated that newer UND8000s are in some way being "improved" or "corrected" by samsung, uninformed posters need to stop perpetuating the misinformation that the newer UND8000s are in some way different. Please stop it. It's entirely untrue and confusing readers. Thank you!

Well I found a 55D8000 at Best Buy in Owings Mills, MD. I spent a good 1/2 hr. looking at it putting in the same settings I use at home. For the life I me I could not find any uniformity issues with the content being displayed and there was some stuff that should have showed it. However, I didn't have any test patterns on a flash drive so I can't say 100% it was ok but it certainly was a hell of a lot better than mine or the one CNET got. Don't know the build date either but I can at least speak for one of these sets looking pretty good. Just waiting on Amazon to get more back in stock this week. Maybe they really did have a bad early run....
post #3111 of 8401
I received my UN55D8000 on April 22 but had to leave on vacation for two weeks so I didn't get much time to play with it. After inspection upon my return I noticed what looked like water spots or smudges on the upper right corner of the screen. I made numerous attempts to clean them off with a damp microfiber cloth but they wouldn't come off. Upon further inspection I noticed that the spots looked like bubbles from a different angle and are raised slightly. There are also numerous light scratches around the area (could be from me trying to clean it but wiping down other areas of the screen doesn't result in any scratching). I attached a pic of the spots and would like to know if it's worth returning it to Amazon. So far my experience with the set has been good and I have no complaints about the picture quality. This is the only defect I've noticed and I'd hate to get something worse back.
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post #3112 of 8401
I would return that if I was you. I have some bad uniformity issue that mean I am returning my set and if someone said to me I could either have my set or yours I would choose mine any day Sorry
post #3113 of 8401
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Originally Posted by Zook View Post

I received my UN55D8000 on April 22 but had to leave on vacation for two weeks so I didn't get much time to play with it. After inspection upon my return I noticed what looked like water spots or smudges on the upper right corner of the screen. I made numerous attempts to clean them off with a damp microfiber cloth but they wouldn't come off. Upon further inspection I noticed that the spots looked like bubbles from a different angle and are raised slightly. There are also numerous light scratches around the area (could be from me trying to clean it but wiping down other areas of the screen doesn't result in any scratching). I attached a pic of the spots and would like to know if it's worth returning it to Amazon. So far my experience with the set has been good and I have no complaints about the picture quality. This is the only defect I've noticed and I'd hate to get something worse back.

def return it just curious that border looks larger then mine is that just from the zoom?
post #3114 of 8401
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Originally Posted by Zook View Post

I received my UN55D8000 on April 22 but had to leave on vacation for two weeks so I didn't get much time to play with it. After inspection upon my return I noticed what looked like water spots or smudges on the upper right corner of the screen. I made numerous attempts to clean them off with a damp microfiber cloth but they wouldn't come off. Upon further inspection I noticed that the spots looked like bubbles from a different angle and are raised slightly. There are also numerous light scratches around the area (could be from me trying to clean it but wiping down other areas of the screen doesn't result in any scratching). I attached a pic of the spots and would like to know if it's worth returning it to Amazon. So far my experience with the set has been good and I have no complaints about the picture quality. This is the only defect I've noticed and I'd hate to get something worse back.

Looks like something was melted, and also as stated, doesn't look like the d8000 to me in that pic.
post #3115 of 8401
So now that I've had some time with the set and played with the settings and used some of the suggestion here on settings, I'm glad to say I'm very happy with it. 3D looks great the best I've seen on a 3D tv yet, the picture is amazing and while many on here bitch and moan about uniformity, I don't see it when using the TV normally. Yes if I pump through various levels of solid gray I'll start to see the vast changes in light, but I'll never and NO ONE out there will ever be doing that other then to find problems with the TV to bitch about on the internet. When I put in Blu-Rays ranging from Dark Knight to Toy Story 3 to whatever the 3D underwater sampler I borrowed, the image looks great. I know this is a videophile forum but enough with the "this set looks like crap when I put test signals through the TV" stuff, no one is going to sit and watch 2 hours of 40% gray. If I see clouding or banding when watching Dark Knight, then we got issues, but no matter what I've watched the TV looks great.

The only thing i don't like is how some of the settings are locked out under certain circumstances, and that Game Mode is buried in System Settings. Game Mode is really needed for PS3 and Xbox but as of now the PS3 doubles as the Blu-Ray player. We are getting a standalone Blu-Ray Player so movies get their own settings and the games have their own settings, and no need to constantly flip game mode on and off.


Now flame me way.
post #3116 of 8401
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Originally Posted by jlomaga View Post

Looks like something was melted, and also as stated, doesn't look like the d8000 to me in that pic.

It's definitely a D8000, just the angle and zoom is probably throwing off the look a bit. And I don't know if anything is melted but it's definitely warped. What bothers me is that's the corner where they put that pointless sticker and I've seen some other posts with people that had defects in that area. Might just be me being paranoid but we shall see what happens, I've already sent Amazon an e-mail about getting a replacement.
post #3117 of 8401
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Originally Posted by bpmurr View Post

Maybe they really did have a bad early run....

Maybe. I hope that is the case.

But until we know for sure via samsung, a calibrator or someone in the know -- we simply don't know and shouldn't be erroneously passing it around that changes have been made to the UND8000. As far as we know, for now, it hasn't been changed a bit.
post #3118 of 8401
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Originally Posted by milk View Post

Maybe. I hope that is the case.

But until we know for sure via samsung, a calibrator or someone in the know -- we simply don't know and shouldn't be erroneously passing it around that changes have been made to the UND8000. As far as we know, for now, it hasn't been changed a bit.

Usually there are several changes in a production run, sadly they are usually ways to reduce the cost of the unit and often lower the quality of the set. Buying early can often mean more reliable hardware, but you get stuck with some of the early production bugs. Quite the choice to be sure...
post #3119 of 8401
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Originally Posted by bpmurr View Post


Well I found a 55D8000 at Best Buy in Owings Mills, MD. I spent a good 1/2 hr. looking at it putting in the same settings I use at home. For the life I me I could not find any uniformity issues with the content being displayed and there was some stuff that should have showed it. However, I didn't have any test patterns on a flash drive so I can't say 100% it was ok but it certainly was a hell of a lot better than mine or the one CNET got. Don't know the build date either but I can at least speak for one of these sets looking pretty good. Just waiting on Amazon to get more back in stock this week. Maybe they really did have a bad early run....

Mine is not that bad and it was an early set although some might be worse it is luck of the draw not date related. It is always harder to find the faults when in a store environment. I purchased a LG LX9500 last year after spending an hour with it in the store convinced no banding on this set, within minutes after Being in my house the banding jumped out at me.
post #3120 of 8401
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Originally Posted by PENDRAG0ON View Post


Usually there are several changes in a production run, sadly they are usually ways to reduce the cost of the unit and often lower the quality of the set. Buying early can often mean more reliable hardware, but you get stuck with some of the early production bugs. Quite the choice to be sure...

If you want to convince yourself that within one month some miracle fix happens that the engineering could not find the previous 12 months and that they decide "let's screw the early buyers and only fix these sets starting April 1st" go ahead and make yourself feel good. What you are speaking about are products like the Playstation 3 and Xbox, these are products that have runs of several years with many changes in hardware to reduce cost, not March TV'S to April's. Samsung has enough parts to make months worth of sets and just start making them, there in no difference in any D8000 unless someone is stuck with a defective panel or other part. But you April buyers keep convincing yourself of something different. You know that some people have been cured by Placebo drugs because they believe they are real.
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