Official Samsung UNXXD8000 Owners' Thread - Page 255

Originally Posted by elykoj

When I have looked at the D7000 and D8000 in a few different stores , I saw absolutely no flash lighting or clouding on ANY of these sets? Why does it seem so many people are having them when they gt the tv home?

Originally Posted by JewDaddy

Im with you guys. Ive been wondering the same thing and I actually just figured it out. The only way for you to change the depth past 5, is if your are converting a 2d signal to 3d. If you are watching a true 3d source, it will only allow you to adjust the 3d perspective.

Originally Posted by d8000 user

I have finished fiddling. I am left with only one more option.

I have discovered that having r offset on anything under 26 there's no point because it removes some amount of red in scenes.

So I am leaving it all as per tempests original settings


There are nothing wrong with the settings on my screen, and I can't imagine the r-offset being a problem for anyone at 1 point above its default.


I think it should think that if anyone wants to bump on black tone to its lowest setting and d/contrast to its lowest setting, it should be up to personal preference

I just did that some of today recently, and it 'enhances' the picture without any drawbacks it seems......

BUT the only thing is that I honestly don't think it really needs it. "as the director intended" philosophy, combined with Tempests awesome settings, means the picture looks great.

But I always put a disclaimer to that - you are well within your rights, and in some ways you would just be enhancing a near perfect picture. So whats the point, but it does look good too.

Before I ramble, I would say, "either way is ok"

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And to answer your question succinctly, yes I have finished, and I arrived at Tempests Original settings that I melded with the Custom Color I found on HDTV, as listed on this page above

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Tempests


Basic Settings
Picture Mode Movie
Backlight 16
Contrast 87
Brightness 48
Sharpness 14
Color 50
Tint 50/50

Advanced Settings
Black Tone Dark Off
Dynamic Contrast Low Off
Gamma 1

Color Space (*from Tempest*; for my tv I used the *HDTV one* from facebook which is at the end here, it gives me the best Kelvin, your milage may vary)
Red R51 G0 B2
Green R5 G57 B0
Blue R0 G1 B64
Yellow R53 G55 B0
Cyan R0 G56 B58
Magenta R52 G0 B57

White Balance (coarse grain)
R-Offset 26
G-Offset 25
B-Offset 23
R-Gain 26
G-Gain 25
B-Gain 12

10p White Balance (I use his 10pt white system for my tv. It actually enhanced the picture for once!!! Truly wonderful! bearing in mind, its calibrated for HIS tv! amazing!)
1 R0 G0 B0
2 R0 G0 B0
3 R-1 G0 B-1
4 R-1 G0 B0
5 R-1 G0 B1
6 R-2 G0 B1
7 R1 G0 B0
8 R1 G0 B0
9 R0 G0 B-4
10 R0 B0 B-10

Edge Enhancement Off
Motion Lighting Off
xvYCC Off
LED Motion Plus Cinema Off

Picture Options
Color Tone Warm 2
Digital Noise filter Auto
MPEG Noise Filter Auto
HDMI Black Level Normal
Film Mode Off
Auto Motion Plus Off
Smart LED High Off
Cinema Black Off


Tempests color (I chose to use this HDTV's, it gives better kelvin for my tv. your milage may vary)

red 50 0 0
green 3 56 2
blue 0 4 92
yellow 56 48 1
cyan 0 52 54
Magenta 40 4 59

NOTE: People are allowed to switch on black tone to dark (lowest) and d-contrast to Low. This helps the picture out a bit, yet honestly, for my tv at least, these settings are SO acurate, I do not think they really need activating, but its true, with them on, the picture retains its awesome integrity and "directors intention" feel....but remember, it has the potential to introduce un-original or unintentional parts of the picture. This was the case in the Planet Earth documentary shallow seas. A black portion of the clouds shadow was obviously 'enhanced'...and the worst thing about this was, having intimate knowledge of the picture, it was a cloud-shadow on water that 'without black tone' still looked black enough to pass as a perfectly rendered representation of the cloud-shadow. So I advise it off, but certainly the picture is enhanced...its not that it did a bad job of enhancing the cloud-shadow on the water....it was that the Black Tone had digitally enhanced the spot, so it was just even blacker than it should be! And it was obvious, because I knew it was because of black tone....BUT was it out of place? maybe not. each to his own. I am merely pointing out that it will add non-usual things to the image. But it can look great, of course. --->and its usually the source material, as this is not a proper blue ray.

NOTE: d contrast. D contrast set to low on the other hand does a GREAT JOB *usually always* of bumping up the contrast without altering the original picture too much. In some ways, I believe its a must-have improvement. Its making the colors more vibrant, without altering them in the slightest. Is it required, though on pain of death-of-image-quality? No. The unadulterated picture is just fine. And if its SD content you are viewing, I think you should turn on black tone and d contrast to help out.

NOTE: If you get judder or anything, turn on Motion Plus custom blur 10 judder 3

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And thats it, I have def finished fiddling now. The picture is great and how it should be

Originally Posted by phoenixone

Ah. Thanks JewDaddy. I see it now. I really appreciate it!

Originally Posted by Patrick G

Where can I find Tempest's settings?

Originally Posted by Patrick G

Thanks. And how about d8000's?

Originally Posted by OldAKGuy

Hi, elykoj,

When you are viewing the set in a store it is in "Demo" mode which cranks the picture up with Dynamic contrast, etc. and this works to hide any flash lighting, clouding, etc. You might also notice that some, not all, folks complain about "flash lighting/clouding" when viewing completely black screens or movie credits while indicating that the same is not present when viewing other material. You then have to decide if this "flash lighting/clouding" is a problem for you or not.

Finally, some will tell you that if the set is professionally calibrated these become non-issues.

Just my 2¢.



OldAKGuy

Originally Posted by MKANET

Guys, my journey looking for calibration settings that perfectly match my TV has ended. I consider myself extremely lucky stumbling upon a set of calibration settings that completely nailed white balance, color temperature, and color precision.

Based on all the drastically different professional calibration settings I've found posted, it's obvious that there are "D" series Samsung LCD panels that are very different from each other. HOWEVER I also found out from personal experience that if you're VERY VERY lucky, you'll run into calibration settings for a TV that has the same exact color characteristics as yours. The settings I found was for someone that had a European D7000 TV on the other side of the world. Who would have ever thought they would fit like a glove on my TV.

I can't explain it, but when you find the right settings.. you just know it. There is no more need to post on the forums about calibration and pontificate about how settings should or shouldn't be. You just feel this incredible satisfying feeling like there's finally closure... even for someone with extreme OCD like me. So, my journey has come to an end. I can only wish that others have the same luck as me.

The best advice I can give from what I've learned is don't settle quickly for a single set of calibration settings just because they are popular. Most people only focus on uniformity issues/flashlighting to be resolved. However, I think it's more important to find settings that have the right color balance with no affinity to any one color. The only way I know how to do that without using a spectrometer is to hook up a PC to your TV and look at pictures that you're familiar with. When I look at a CIE 1931 color space chromaticity diagram now, it finally looks perfect. If there's too much green or too much red, you know you don't have the right settings. Also, it might be kind of hard to tell when just watching movies if the colors are perfect or not if you don't have anything to compare it to.

Again, here's a reference to the post that was the end to my journey:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...postcount=7592

Good bye guys and good luck!
MKANET

Originally Posted by phoenixone

This is intriguing. I would love to know this too. But, it seems that this thread discussion is deep into calibration settings and this topic may very well be over looked and end up buried in the thread. Let's hope someone gives it a look for us.

Originally Posted by MKANET

Guys, my journey looking for calibration settings that perfectly match my TV has ended. I consider myself extremely lucky stumbling upon a set of calibration settings that completely nailed white balance, color temperature, and color precision.

Based on all the drastically different professional calibration settings I've found posted, it's obvious that there are "D" series Samsung LCD panels that are very different from each other. HOWEVER I also found out from personal experience that if you're VERY VERY lucky, you'll run into calibration settings for a TV that has the same exact color characteristics as yours. The settings I found was for someone that had a European D7000 TV on the other side of the world. Who would have ever thought they would fit like a glove on my TV.

I can't explain it, but when you find the right settings.. you just know it. There is no more need to post on the forums about calibration and pontificate about how settings should or shouldn't be. You just feel this incredible satisfying feeling like there's finally closure... even for someone with extreme OCD like me. So, my journey has come to an end. I can only wish that others have the same luck as me.

The best advice I can give from what I've learned is don't settle quickly for a single set of calibration settings just because they are popular. Most people only focus on uniformity issues/flashlighting to be resolved. However, I think it's more important to find settings that have the right color balance with no affinity to any one color. The only way I know how to do that without using a spectrometer is to hook up a PC to your TV and look at pictures that you're familiar with. When I look at a CIE 1931 color space chromaticity diagram now, it finally looks perfect. If there's too much green or too much red, you know you don't have the right settings. Also, it might be kind of hard to tell when just watching movies if the colors are perfect or not if you don't have anything to compare it to.

Again, here's a reference to the post that was the end to my journey:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...postcount=7592

Good bye guys and good luck!
MKANET

Originally Posted by balla01

So you are using Puntnl's settings??

Originally Posted by JewDaddy

D8000, thank you very much for your honest and sincere opinion. I will take your advice and talk with the technician before making a decision. If he doesnt think this new panel or replacement tv will make a difference, I will skip that whole process and send it back to amazon and get my money back. Amazon was really nice about their return policy when I called a few days ago. They said they were unable to replace but would be happy to send a truck out to pick the tv up and refund my money in full. Thats more than likely what I will end up doing instead of being bitten twice. If so, I really really hope the 65" version of the ES Model will be available soon. After going from a 55" to a 60" and then to a 65", its hard to go back to anything smaller than a 65." It goes perfect in my mancave and the 3d pops even more. Thanks again for your help

Originally Posted by aztec

hello d8000 i remember with your original settings we were able to get rid of the grey sheet layer on the screen, like the greyish haze.
have you noticed any of that with your final settings (tempest)?

right now i am using your original settings (natural movie mode), and i love it
but i wanted to try this new setting and i was wondering about the greyish haze on the acreen...thanks in advance

Originally Posted by balla01

If im not mistaken he is using Tempest's settings. Or a hybrid version of it. They look great.

Originally Posted by Patrick G

Try mine.

Originally Posted by balla01


There's been so many settings posted here lately its hard to tell who's is who's. Can you post them again?

Originally Posted by Patrick G


They're linked in my sig.

Originally Posted by JewDaddy

D8000, thank you very much for your honest and sincere opinion. I will take your advice and talk with the technician before making a decision. If he doesnt think this new panel or replacement tv will make a difference, I will skip that whole process and send it back to amazon and get my money back. Amazon was really nice about their return policy when I called a few days ago. They said they were unable to replace but would be happy to send a truck out to pick the tv up and refund my money in full. Thats more than likely what I will end up doing instead of being bitten twice. If so, I really really hope the 65" version of the ES Model will be available soon. After going from a 55" to a 60" and then to a 65", its hard to go back to anything smaller than a 65." It goes perfect in my mancave and the 3d pops even more. Thanks again for your help

Originally Posted by JewDaddy

Hey guys. For anyone that it's interested. I decided to get on Samsungs website a few minutes ago and do a live chat with a Tech. Come to find out, there is no ticket number created for me to have someone come out and service my tv. Talk about putting me over the edge. The gentleman told me that I needed to create a service ticket myself on the website. He sent me a link and I started to create the ticket. Then I saw something that gave me a little hope for this 65" model. When I go to select the panel version, there is a drop down box. The first one says G301 and the second option says GA02. Really?? There is a newer version panel for the 65" model. I couldn't belive it. I thought it was just the G301. Maybe there is still some hope left for my 65." Has anyone heard of this GA02 panel???

Originally Posted by d8000 user

I really dont know. Perhaps you could ask someone from samsung. Gee, that must sound appealing, I know.

To me since it has a 2 and its not part of the old convention to have an A. Could well be, and i remember reading that they were trying to review the performance, vaguely, could have been cnet. so they could see/update their review

Originally Posted by JewDaddy


I actually have a good feeling about this TV again. It was funny, when I was chatting with the agent on their website, he was trying to have me change over to movie mode and set the backlight at 7, and keep it that way for at least a week before they could schedule a service call..... Really??????? Lol. I told him absolutely not. I tried my best not to get rude, but after they dropped the ball on the service repair and then give me that line of bs. I about lost it. Lol. I really hope I'm able to get one of these possible newer panels. They have the repair scheduled for this Thursday, so I might give them a call back and find out about this newer panel and whether or not they can make sure the tech brings it.