Official Samsung UNXXD8000 Owners' Thread - Page 4

I only watched a bit of sports yesterday, trying to get a sense of different types of programming and movies. For maybe 30 minutes, I watched some of an NHL game, and then some of an NBA game. I wasn't even paying attention to who was playing. Instead, I was looking at the colors and motion.

I have to do more of this in the next coming days. Again I thought that Dynamic was very over-saturated. If anyone likes a bit of the over-saturated look (most on these boards don't, but enough do that it seems to help sell TVs), I'd still not suggest Dynamic. Standard is over-saturated enough. As you'd expect, after watching on Natural mode for a while, Standard looked even more over-saturated. That said, I still waivered btw Natural and Std for sports. Neither of these (to my untrained eyes) are accurate, and I'm going to have to run the calibration DVD to get there.

As far as motion, I'm less sure. I tried off and clear more than the others. Maybe while hockey and BB are movement sports, neither move fast enough to challenge the refresh rate. I saw some judder in commercials and in a ramdom show - repo something or other. I need an hour to watch another game and go back and forth btw the motion modes before I can really say too much. For now, it didn't seem like night and day, but it's too soon for me to tell.

I'm glad they weren't included. There are a lot of options on this TV, and in some modes (auto in particular) more flexible choices are grayed out (as in the motion effect, where you can customize judder and the other one - I think it's blur?).

Huh. Mine certainly don't look like those funky black ones. I wonder if those are the next gen people referred to eariler. Are your glasses bluetooth or IR? In order to work, the white pair would have to be the same as the others. I think mine are the same or substantially similar to the white ones.

I wonder if Samsung produced the glasses that I have in bluetooth, and then re-tooled their manufacturing to make the black ones you have. That might explain why there are two different stlyes - both bluetooth (if yours are BT).

I understand your concern, and while I'm not a regular player anymore, I've been a gamer since the days of Adventure on a mainframe. I've owned everything from the first Atari, Intellivision, Nintendos, Sega, etc., through today. I have 2 Xbox 360s and a PS3. I tend to play first person shooters and coop shooters that don't work well with any noticeable lag. While I don't play much now, my son plays too much, but enough to notice lag. I don't know whether the complexity of the graphics redrawing in a game adds to lag, or if it's 100% of the TV's job.

If there was a noticeable difference btw the time I input a command to the Xbox and then on to the LCD panel until the time it was processed by the panel, I would have noticed it. I played a bit of Black Ops last night - both Zombies and team deathmatch. In team deathmatch, IMO, almost any lag would be noticeable. This is especially true with "one in the chamber," in which a split second can make the difference. That said, I played some on auto motion off and some on clear. The only time I had motion lag was when I accidently turned the TV off with the BD remote, and then back on.

It seems like there was input lag for about 15 seconds that dissapeared. I've no idea if it was the processing, the initial screen redraw, the inet connection or something else. I'm not saying you're wrong or I'm right, but that so far, I've seen no lag. That's why I asked whether the graphics demand of a game could cause additional lag.

My son played Black Ops for another hour online - on clear - again, no motion lag. Believe me, if he couldn't move instantly when trying, shoot exactly when he wanted, etc., he would have told me and complained.

I will try to test it again tonight to see if I can force lag by moving up one setting at a time, which I think will take the TV a few more miliseconds to process the data, thereby causing a bit more lag. It'll also help confirm my first impressions. I don't think I said in my eariler posts that I noticed lag. I did notice some judder, in particular during one or two commercials, and once in a repo man type show, but I changed a lot yesterday - I need to go back and do it more scientifically now. I certainly don't want to be wrong and have people to rely on me. People should certain not rely on me to make a buying decision as I'm not an expert.

Maybe I'll also try Borderlands and Rainbow Six Vegas and Army of Two just to see.

I don't have a gray pattern, but in watching Shrek 3D, The Social Network, Cops, Hockey, NBA, a bit of Troy and other things, I didn't see any clouding/flashlighting, uneven lighting in grays or blacks. It would be great if onoy a gray pattern causes it to be noticeable.

My D8000 did NOT come with glasses. It came with a voucher for 2 pair. I bought the 3D starter kit that came with 2 pair, 3 shrek 3D movies and a voucer for the final shrek movie and Megamind 3D.I also bought 2 individual pairs not knowing what was in the box. I'll return the two single packs now that I'm getting 2 with the voucher.

FWIW, I don't think the diff is how the glasses get to you. If freebits is in Korea, and bought his TV there, it may be a regional difference. Maybe they're all manufactured in China, and the newest designs go to Asia first. I'm just guessing. The picture on the voucher looks identical to the glasses that I have.

Right - in a couple of scenes where there was movement, it wasn't smooth, so I called it judder. I tried the options in order from no smoothing to the most smoothing (sorry, forgot the name), and as you'd expect, the soap opera effect got worse. I'm still not 100% sure whether the choppy, non-smooth motion is caused by frame rate or judder. I recall that the options on the D8000 control both blur and judder in some unknown percent (e.g., off is 0/0, Clear is 240Hz/20%, etc.). I'm making the numbers up just to explain that it seems to be a 2 in 1 setting, unless you pick custom, in which you can control them independently.

Hopefully, my editing the title worked and more owners can add to the information.

Good catch. I meant owners'.