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post #301 of 796
Quote:
Originally Posted by lwang View Post

So all the wireless or wired NAS setups are through DLNA or through something like a windoze share?

I believe you can only use DLNA or plug directly into the player. I don't recall ever seeing any way to access a shared folder directly.
post #302 of 796
Alright got on serviios forum and figured out that the truehd audio track was causing stuttering. If i remux the file and only select the ac3 track it plays perfect.
post #303 of 796
anyways to recap use ac3 audio tracks.
post #304 of 796
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Jones

I see that 'Secrets" has their detailed review/test of the S580 posted. It has the same issue as the S570 in that it does not correctly decode and output the video levels via HDMI. HERE is the link to the review. In part their conclusions read:

"The Sony is a good player for an average consumer, but a bad one if you are a videophile, or plan on calibrating your display based on images sent from the S580. Due to its poor color conversion, and incorrect Luma output, it is impossible to ever get a correctly calibrated display when using the S580 as a source."

Quote:
Originally Posted by HDMI_13

After looking at the review with lots for disappointment , I did some testing on my player and theater mode is not manipulating/limiting the levels or WTW details. If you want to calibrate the display or if you are video purist use theater mode. 4:4:0 or 4:4:4, RGB color spaces are showing the level details correctly in that mode. Other picture modes(ex: standard, bright room etc) are limiting the details.

I am not sure which picture mode the reviewer used , I left a comment at hometheaterhifi website for clarification on which mode they have used for review. Hope they will respond to it.
If this still an issue (or non-issue)?

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Originally Posted by Mike_WI View Post

If this still an issue (or non-issue)?
Fixed (or fixable) in a FW update.

Thanks.

Mike

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Originally Posted by NovaKane View Post

New firmware prompt just came up on my S580.

For more info as to the fixes (only 2 on this one), here's a link to the firmware support page: http://esupport.sony.com/US/perl/swu...&os_group_id=3

That link gives this message:

Quote:


Some information is missing or incorrect. Please return to the previous page and check your entries.

So, I'm still waiting to here if "...poor color conversion, and incorrect Luma output..." corrected with FW.

Comments?

Mike
post #305 of 796
I found this:
http://esupport.sony.com/US/perl/swu...os_group_id=13

Quote:


This utility upgrades the Blu-ray Disc player firmware to version M07.R.0427 and provides the following benefits:

Improvements over firmware version M07.R.0319:

Improves BRAVIA® Internet Video playability
Adds the ability to play discs recorded in AVCHD version 2.0 format (AVCHD 3D/Progressive)
Adds the ability to play BDAV content recorded in 3D/Progressive format using BD-R/BD-RE media

Benefits provided by previous upgrades and included in version M07.R.0427:
Adds the ability to share your BRAVIA Internet Video content via Facebook® or Twitter® online services
Adds support for the Media Remote App to control Party Streaming mode.
Adds support the Blu-ray Disc player to play video and photos in addition to music when controlled by another DLNA® DMR (Digital Media Receiver) compatible product such as a smartphone
Adds support for playing 1080/60p video files from Sony® cameras connected by USB cable to the player
Adds support for using the Skype® calling function to call phones and mobile devices
Notes:
Requires a USB webcam
Broadband speed of at least 2.5 Mbps recommended (10 Mbps for HD)
Subject to Skype's terms and conditions
Skype features are available only on the BDP-S780
Adds support for 3D video using the Qriocity Video on Demand service
Note: The Qriocity service is available only in the United States
Improves BD-ROM playability
Adds support for viewing 3D panoramic photos taken with the 3D Sweep Panorama function available on some Sony® cameras
Note: Requires 3D HDTV, 3D glasses, 3D emitter, and HDMI® cable (at least 10.2 Gbps)
Adds the Web Search function using the Gracenote Entertainment database
Adds the SendToMyTV function

So, I don't see that the FW update information deals with "...poor color conversion, and incorrect Luma output..."

Any calibrators have comments?

Mike
post #306 of 796
^^^ Thanks for updating the link to the Sony S580 firmware update support page. Could have sworn the link was working when I posted it earlier.
post #307 of 796
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Originally Posted by NovaKane View Post

^^^ Thanks for updating the link to the Sony S580 firmware update support page. Could have sworn the link was working when I posted it earlier.

On the S780 thread someone is reporting a new S780 FW update today.
However, no info on Sony website:
http://esupport.sony.com/US/perl/mod...3#/downloadTab

Mike
post #308 of 796
Looks like a flurry of upgrades lately. I just got the 0539 a few days ago, now with the 0553, they must have patched something they broked on 0539
post #309 of 796
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Originally Posted by mdavej View Post

I believe you can only use DLNA or plug directly into the player. I don't recall ever seeing any way to access a shared folder directly.

oh, man, that's whacked.. I was planning on setting up nas & wireless but I heard dlna is streaming so its like realvideo or something, so barely any FF, no skips, etc. It's back to the VCR again.

As far as streaming from DLNA, is there any restrictions? Too high a bandwidth video? 1080p video being blocked? I was playing things from a HDD plugged in through the USB and it played pretty a variety of format and resolution. Don't want to go through a NAS/DLNA solution and find out it is worse off than what I had before.
post #310 of 796
Mine is playing straight bluray rips from a serviio file server. Limitation is you have to use ac3 audio track.
post #311 of 796
Does anyone know where I need to edit filenames so they appear correctly on my S580? I used TV Rename to name them Show - S01E03 - Title of episode.avi but when I browse on my BluRay player connected back to my PC it shows whatever the filename originally was usually show.S01E03.Xvid-HDTV.ETC.avi
post #312 of 796
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Originally Posted by Dmaxx67 View Post

Mine is playing straight bluray rips from a serviio file server. Limitation is you have to use ac3 audio track.

I just tried a bluray rip and it plays fine at 26-30mbit/sec. But I can't pause or FF.

But if I tried to play other format like MKV files, it cannot be played higher than 720p..all the 1080p stuff, the player just buffers forever. On my NAS doing the media streaming, it seems to constantly trying to send data to the S580, but it never goes anywhere. The DLNA client software must be the limiting factor.
post #313 of 796
Was your bluray rip the Hd audio or the spontaneous digital file?
post #314 of 796
bluray rip was a streamlined version. i think it only had 1 audio track Dolby AC3, and a 0000.m2ts file.

Maybe I have to enable transcoding on my NAS media server so it streams out any of the other formats, but can't find the config file to do it.

I called Sony support up and they said DLNA spec indicates MKV format is not supported. The fact that it plays it sometimes does not mean it is not functioning. Got a Panasonic DMP-BDT210 and that doesn't even highlight the MKV files as playable. I guess the media player are all a afterthought.
post #315 of 796
I know this doesn't belong here but there is an extreme lack of help in the help me choose thread. So sorry you can request this be removed if you like.

So I am looking to get a blu ray for the bedroom and I am debating between this player and a ps3. I already have a ps3 in my main veiwing room and don't game on it much. My main things are going to be netflix streaming and blu ray veiwing (possibly 3d viewing in the future). And I do need wireless are there any advantages to this player over the ps3 for the subjects mentioned. FYI I do have 5.1 setup in the bedroom.
post #316 of 796
It's cheaper, quieter, faster, uses less power and doesn't require an expensive IR/BT adapter for use with a universal remote. The downside is it won't do Netflix in 5.1 like the PS3.
post #317 of 796
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Originally Posted by mdavej View Post

It's cheaper, quieter, faster, uses less power and doesn't require an expensive IR/BT adapter for use with a universal remote. The downside is it won't do Netflix in 5.1 like the PS3.

Good point I forgot I'd need another harmony adapter. Knew about the 5.1. Thanks for a good response though.
post #318 of 796
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Originally Posted by CaTaSTrOphiK View Post


Good point I forgot I'd need another harmony adapter. Knew about the 5.1. Thanks for a good response though.

The Panasonic blurays have 5.1 and caption. I have the 110 that replace my ps3 and I'm totally happy I did. Less power use, less noise.
post #319 of 796
I also have the panny 110, PS3 and sony 570 and much prefer the panny for Netflix. Not only does it do 5.1 and captions as centauro said, but the interface is vastly superior to sony. So you need to decide if you want better DLNA/File streaming which sony excels at, or better Netflix which panny excels at. Also consider that if you sell the Avatar 3D disc you get with the panny, that takes $75-$100 off your net cost. If you decide to go for the panny, keep in mind the 110 is wired and the 210/310 is wireless.
post #320 of 796
New firmware update issued 11/03/2011:

This utility upgrades the Blu-ray Disc player firmware to version M07.R.0553 and provides the following benefits:
Improvements over firmware version M07.R.0427:

Improves BRAVIA® Internet Video connectivity
Benefits provided by previous upgrades and included in version M07.R.0553:

Improves BRAVIA Internet Video playability
Adds the ability to play discs recorded in AVCHD version 2.0 format (AVCHD 3D/Progressive)
Adds the ability to play BDAV content recorded in 3D/Progressive format using BD-R/BD-RE media
Adds the ability to share your BRAVIA Internet Video content via Facebook® or Twitter® online services
Adds support for the Media Remote App to control Party Streaming mode
Adds support for the Blu-ray Disc player to play video and photos in addition to music when controlled by another DLNA® DMR (Digital Media Receiver) compatible product such as a smartphone
Adds support for playing 1080/60p video files from Sony® cameras connected by USB cable to the player
Adds support for using the Skype® calling function to call phones and mobile devices
Notes:
◦Requires a USB webcam
◦Broadband speed of at least 2.5 Mbps recommended (10 Mbps for HD)
◦Subject to Skype's terms and conditions
◦Skype features are available only on the BDP-S780
Adds support for 3D video using the Qriocity Video on Demand service
Note: The Qriocity service is available only in the United States
Improves BD-ROM playability
Adds support for viewing 3D panoramic photos taken with the 3D Sweep Panorama function available on some Sony® cameras
Note: Requires 3D HDTV, 3D glasses, 3D emitter, and HDMI® cable (at least 10.2 Gbps)
Adds the Web Search function using the Gracenote Entertainment database
Adds the SendToMyTV function
post #321 of 796
Does anybody have been able to play .mkv or .jpg file from a dlna server ?

Mine just hang on this operation and I must unplug it from the wall to get it back to life.
post #322 of 796
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Originally Posted by drd4 View Post

Does anybody have been able to play .mkv or .jpg file from a dlna server ?

Mine just hang on this operation and I must unplug it from the wall to get it back to life.

I've tried to view my pictures (jpg) or play mp3 files from my NAS. Sometimes it marginally works but most of the time it chokes and won't access them.
post #323 of 796
Quote:
Originally Posted by lwang View Post

bluray rip was a streamlined version. i think it only had 1 audio track Dolby AC3, and a 0000.m2ts file.

Maybe I have to enable transcoding on my NAS media server so it streams out any of the other formats, but can't find the config file to do it.

I called Sony support up and they said DLNA spec indicates MKV format is not supported. The fact that it plays it sometimes does not mean it is not functioning. Got a Panasonic DMP-BDT210 and that doesn't even highlight the MKV files as playable. I guess the media player are all a afterthought.

Yes this is so bad, companies should respect their customers. I have bought a Panasonic dmp-bdt110 and it does not play any video format via dlna, but it's printed on the box. So, I got it back to the store. I bought 2 sony bdp-s480. On the website page it's stated: media supported ... .mkv via dlna but, well hidden in the boxes of the players, the operation manual has a foot note that says that the player will not play .mkv and some other formats from dlna servers. I called sony 3 times before getting somebody that knows the product and he confirm me that the S480 will hang on .mkv files. So, I will get these two bdp-S480 back to the store this week.

What a huge waist of time !

Panasonic bdtX10 shows unacceptable quality in dvd upscaling unacceptable jaggies with .jpg and dlna doesn't work
Sony S480 dlna for photos and music, but not for the movies

I bought a oppo that do every thing well and very quickly. $150 players sould not be sold to enthusiasts consumers, but only for people that have wood around their tvs
post #324 of 796
Hi all,

Not sure if this is the right forum, but here goes...My current setup has an Pioneer elite sc=05 hooked up to a pioneer elite 23fd bluray player and when i play a disk that has DTS-HD or TrueHD is automatically shows up on my receiver. My question is, i just bought a new sony and when i put the same disk in both machines, the pioneer shows DTS while the Sony shows PCM...What am I doing wrong? I sure it is just a setup issue but can't seem to fine it. Thanks
post #325 of 796
I have played .mkv files with my sony numerous times. It was a .mkv file with h.264 encoding. Watched an entire movoe that way no priblem. Use serviio as your dlna server and use wired.commection for hi-def viewing.
post #326 of 796
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Originally Posted by blazzer_19 View Post

Ok so I have an s580 and just got a Yamaha 6063 receiver.

I want my AVR to process the HD audio. I do not want my BRP to do it. Can someone please explain or correct me....

Set HDMI to auto or pcm?? If I understand this auto might send bitstream to my AVR to decode and PCM means my BRP is decoding and sending it straight to my AVR. So the player decodes and not my receiver??
Then BD Audio mix setting set to off?? describes this as mixing interactive audio?? I dunno.
Then 2 separate settings Dolby Digital and DTS. I can either set them both to Downmix PCM or set them to straight DD or DTS. Which do I need?

There is a setting that says Downmix and I can set it to Stereo or Surround.

Remembering I would like AVR to do the processing. So my guess is this...
HDMI - Auto (not PCM)
BD Audio mix - off (not on)
Dolby digital - Dolby digital (not Downmix PCM)
DTS - DTS (not Downmix PCM)
Downmix - Surround (not stereo)
I know there is alot here but I would greatly appreciate your answers and advice.
Darryl

Thank you, i used the above guidelines and this worked
post #327 of 796
I have an elcheapo wireless keyboard and mouse through USB that I picked up at Menards for $10 that seems to work fine. Better than trying to enter text with the remote anyway because at least I can type on a full size keyboard. What is odd is I cannot figure out how to move from field to field on a webpage? Like logging into a website or selecting a thread to read? I have no mouse cursor on the screen so I cannot click that way either. Tab, arrow, page up or down do not seem to move the area of focus.

Anyone had any better luck with thier keyboard / mouse combination? It's great that the browser lets me go places by using the options, URL entry but once I get there then what? I can't select anything?

TIA.

Edit to add...
Ok, I had the screen too big and couldn't see what was highlighted at the top. Using the arrow buttons on the remote I can move around and then using the enter button I can select the field to enter, then input, then you get the on screen keypad and you can start typing on your keyboard, then scroll down and use the enter key on the keypay. If it's just a link you use the enter button to select it. Pretty funky but at least it works. Boy Sony sure made this a lot more difficult than necessary.
post #328 of 796
I purchased my S580 this weekend with the Black Friday Deals, and so far I'm completely satisfied with the player. I only plan on playing discs in it, I don't ever plan on using Netflix or streaming from another device. I leave file playback for my computer. Should I re-calibrate my TV to accomodate my new player? I replaced a Sony DAV-HDX275 HTiB DVD player.

I can't believe the difference in DVD upscaling, it's like night and day. It may not look as great on a screen larger than 32", but for us it's nothing short of amazing. With the old player I could see a lot of jaggies and motion blur that seemed unnatural to the movie, but the S580 seems to have removed all those issues. I feel like I'm watching a DVD on an old CRT Tube Television with the kind of clarity and smoothness that the S580 is providing to our LCD screen. I know Panasonic is renowned for it's DVD playback, but for the price of the Sony and the impressive DVD upscaling, I'm very happy with this player.

The one feature I do miss from the old DVD player was "One Touch Play" that uses Bravia Sync to turn the TV and DVD player on and to the appropriate inputs. But I saw Harmony 650s on sale too and this fixes the problem of not having that button.

Does anyone else use a Harmony Remote for their Sx80? I'd be interested to know buttons you have configured.
post #329 of 796
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Originally Posted by Dmaxx67 View Post

Mine is playing straight bluray rips from a serviio file server. Limitation is you have to use ac3 audio track.

I'm having trouble with BD rips in m2ts format playing from a Twonky server. These rips are not HD audio just the core DTS. They stutter over 20 Mbps. Now this is over a good wifi connection. Would there likely be an improvement with a wired connection? These play fine over an ethernet connected WD Live player.

Also I note that the apple tv m4v videos will not play at all.
post #330 of 796
Looks like we have a new update. My biggest fear is if sony enabled cinavia drm in one of these firmware updates, and I wont be able to downgrade.

File Description UPDATE Blu-ray Disc™ Player Firmware Upgrade Release Date 11/30/2011 Version M07.R.0579 File Size 72.14 MB This utility upgrades the Blu-ray Disc player firmware to version M07.R.0579 and provides the following benefits:
Improvements over firmware version M07.R.0553:
Improves BRAVIA® Internet Video connectivity
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