Originally Posted by gameboy
You still don't get it.
France is the LAST place you will hear anything relevant to actual NexBox engineering. Ireland or London, maybe. France??? Are you sh#tting me?
There is an iron curtain for everything Nexbox. They won't even open up the new dashboard update until the last minute to outsiders, you are nuts if you think they will do that with the hardware.
Oh I get it alright. Much more than you think. You are just too caught up in your world of absolutes and insults to see anything else except your own POV. What you call an "iron curtain" is nothing more than confidentiality agreements, non disclosure agreements, Ip agreements,employment contracts, supply contracts bound by said agreements, user agreements and secrecy pacts. No different than rules governing over 100 products and 10 new technologies I've been involved in over the last 30 years. I personally know at least 5 people within that span of confidentiality who know everything there is to know about the next XBox. Some are inside MS and some are outside. So much for your iron wall. But here is the important thing Gameboy. They have never told me anything about it...other than "we are working on it and have been for a long time". Nor have I asked. XBox is not what we talk about whenever we do catch up. It would be very insulting to them if I invaded their zone of privacy that way. I have talked about a kick ast new IP idea. One that I have played around with for about 10 years...an idea that an "Iron curtain outside/inside guy" thinks could be a huge new franchise in NexGen type consoles & PC markets. But that is all we've talked about. Nothing specifically NexGen XBox. If anything does even materialize, I'm getting too old to enjoy the fruits anyway. My point is this. These kind of conversations go on all the time...inside Team XBox, MS, outside MS...and yes...even with the French!Here's what you don't get. 1)
MS will not hurl a product as important as the Next XBox into the marketplace (especially one as uncertain as this one) without rigorous testing by a myriad of audiences...inside their company, outside developers/suppliers...and outside users who are bound by the same type of agreements mentioned above. 2) XBox is absolutely no exception
to MS' governing corporate policies. Especially regarding corporate security and IP. 3) The XBox firewall is no more or less secretive
than Windows or any other MS product within their corporate development shell.
Your point about the dashboard is simply naive at best. I'm an outsider...and I and probably some others right here on this thread were on a user panel that beta tested that dashboard. So again you are simply validating the point I made earlier. It was the last minutes before the product went out. They wanted real world user feedback. They got it. And none of us talked about it. Nor will we talk about NexBox in the future, if we serve on a similar last minute user panel, before a full market launch. So okay. We're talking hardware. Different chain of custody in the materials management process. But same overall corporate process rules regarding finished product IP rights and restrictions.
But lookit...I don't think you are nuts for thinking the way you do about this stuff. You obviously just don't know how the product development process really works at a company like MS. I do. I truly don't get your point about the French. MS can leak what they want...anywhere they want. You are naive to think they don't leak stuff about NExBox.