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post #5401 of 7006
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Originally Posted by TyrantII View Post

There’s even more than that, and most of them don’t fit neatly in generic FPS/3rd PS, but you’re really missing out on some quality gaming. Even if Sony doesn’t have it sh*t together sometimes, it’s nice that they really spread out their support into different genres and offer something for everyone.
At the end of the day though, missing out on a video game or two really isn't a big deal in the grand scheme of things. I know for me, I wouldn't be able to justify it next gen. At least this gen it was also a blu-ray player, so I could always say "Well, at least I can use it to play blu-rays". Next gen, both systems will have blu-ray, and a stand alone BR player is pretty cheap now.
post #5402 of 7006
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Originally Posted by TyrantII View Post

KZ2 is a pretty generic spacemarine shooter, even if it is polished.

huh? You love KZ2!
post #5403 of 7006
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Originally Posted by onlysublime View Post

huh? You love KZ2!

I loved playing it with the NOM'ers and WW. But same can be said of BF3, having a group of like minded friends that work together is the only way to MP. Riftraft is intolerable.
post #5404 of 7006
A new rumor suggests that the alleged subsidized model of Microsoft’s next Xbox will carry a larger monthly fee than expected. According to Windows SuperSite reporter Paul Thurrott, last week’s report that a subsidized $299 next-gen Xbox would carry a $10 monthly fee is incorrect. Instead, Thurrott noted on Twitter that his source suggests the cheaper model carries a $15 fee instead.

The rumor was corroborated by The Verge reporter Tom Warren, who tweeted "yup" and noted that the subscription “includes family” as well.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/05/04/next-xboxs-optional-subscription-fee-may-be-15
post #5405 of 7006
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Originally Posted by benjamin-benjami View Post

A new rumor suggests that the alleged subsidized model of Microsoft’s next Xbox will carry a larger monthly fee than expected. According to Windows SuperSite reporter Paul Thurrott, last week’s report that a subsidized $299 next-gen Xbox would carry a $10 monthly fee is incorrect. Instead, Thurrott noted on Twitter that his source suggests the cheaper model carries a $15 fee instead.

The rumor was corroborated by The Verge reporter Tom Warren, who tweeted "yup" and noted that the subscription “includes family” as well.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/05/04/next-xboxs-optional-subscription-fee-may-be-15
That's what happens when you have a company that is completely run by billionares that don't have a clue about the real world.
post #5406 of 7006
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Originally Posted by rmalbers View Post

That's what happens when you have a company that is completely run by billionares that don't have a clue about the real world.

So the only people buying Xbox Live are rich people huh?

It has been 11 years now. Billionaires or not their service continues to be relevant.
post #5407 of 7006
Yup, spending $40 a year is really tough to do.
post #5408 of 7006
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Originally Posted by benjamin-benjami View Post

A new rumor suggests that the alleged subsidized model of Microsoft’s next Xbox will carry a larger monthly fee than expected. According to Windows SuperSite reporter Paul Thurrott, last week’s report that a subsidized $299 next-gen Xbox would carry a $10 monthly fee is incorrect. Instead, Thurrott noted on Twitter that his source suggests the cheaper model carries a $15 fee instead.

The rumor was corroborated by The Verge reporter Tom Warren, who tweeted "yup" and noted that the subscription “includes family” as well.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/05/04/next-xboxs-optional-subscription-fee-may-be-15

That would put the base system at $500 as previously reported. Sony can easily undercut them at that price....they better have something amazing up their sleeve if they're gonna price it that high.
post #5409 of 7006
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Originally Posted by bd2003 View Post

That would put the base system at $500 as previously reported. Sony can easily undercut them at that price....they better have something amazing up their sleeve if they're gonna price it that high.

yeah, and people gasped when the 360 price first came out. then sony dropped the bombshell of a $599 PS3...
post #5410 of 7006
A $500 Xbox won't scare me away. Especially when you consider the fact that it comes with a kinect.
post #5411 of 7006
I'll put my guess in now. I will go with $450 for the Next Box.
post #5412 of 7006
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Originally Posted by onlysublime View Post

yeah, and people gasped when the 360 price first came out. then sony dropped the bombshell of a $599 PS3...

Nice FUD. You could get a 20GB system for $499
post #5413 of 7006
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Originally Posted by ThumperII View Post

Nice FUD. You could get a 20GB system for $499

599 US Dollars!

The Meme stuck, and who wanted the gimped 20gb anyway?
post #5414 of 7006
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Originally Posted by PENDRAG0ON View Post

599 US Dollars!

The Meme stuck, and who wanted the gimped 20gb anyway?

yeah, I thought it was crazy that they'd release for $599. but they can do whatever they want...
post #5415 of 7006
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Originally Posted by PENDRAG0ON View Post

599 US Dollars!

The Meme stuck, and who wanted the gimped 20gb anyway?

Correct. Nobody bought the 20GB. No wireless, No card reader, smaller HDD wasnt worth the $100 savings.



And how can you ever forget "People should want to work more hours, so they can afford the PS3".

That. Was comedy gold. And the beginning of the end for the Playstation 10 year reign as the best selling gaming console.
post #5416 of 7006
Non proprietary HD and no wireless..oh wait, 360 launch without wireless and a proprietary HDMI port. Crappy gimped consoles...

I agree Sony really blew it with the PS3. They were top dog and thought they would always be there because they were Playstation.. Happens to too many companies. Apple may be getting there now.
Edited by ThumperII - 5/4/13 at 3:00pm
post #5417 of 7006
Never understood then and now why people keep trying to use wireless as some sort of minus when then people preferred to use wired connection anyway. Most weren't concerned about HDMI and wireless. Especially when the games on the 360 were playing better on the console. Which is what gamers preferred overall.
post #5418 of 7006
Will there be blow out prices on the current gen xboxes when we get close to Nov? I didn't pay any attention to prices when the xbox went to xbox 360's.
post #5419 of 7006
There's a rumor that a smaller current gen model codenamed "Stingray" will ship this year for a rumored $100; google "xbox stingray" for more.
post #5420 of 7006
that's the $99-149 Xbox 360 that's been rumored for the past year. the one without an optical drive.
post #5421 of 7006
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Originally Posted by mboojigga View Post

Never understood then and now why people keep trying to use wireless as some sort of minus when then people preferred to use wired connection anyway. Most weren't concerned about HDMI and wireless. Especially when the games on the 360 were playing better on the console. Which is what gamers preferred overall.

For the same reason people are concerned with lack of card readers. They are just pissing points in the contest.
post #5422 of 7006
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Originally Posted by mboojigga View Post

Never understood then and now why people keep trying to use wireless as some sort of minus when then people preferred to use wired connection anyway. Most weren't concerned about HDMI and wireless. Especially when the games on the 360 were playing better on the console. Which is what gamers preferred overall.

True, and I believe the HDMI standard was only at version 1.2 at that time. It wasn't until much later at 1.3(where most new components had it by then) or so where people started to care.
post #5423 of 7006
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Originally Posted by TyrantII View Post

MGS4 is more of a cult game.

What? Mind == blown.

I haven't cared much for MGS since the first 2, but the series has sold about 33 million copies. That's not a cult hit.
post #5424 of 7006
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Originally Posted by RemoWilliams84 View Post

What? Mind == blown.

I haven't cared much for MGS since the first 2, but the series has sold about 33 million copies. That's not a cult hit.

agreed, especially considering it has basically only been sony's console. and has sold more that half-life, sim city, super smash bros, gears of war, tiger woods, just dance, tony hawk, etc..
post #5425 of 7006
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Should single-player games, Blu-ray playback, and live TV viewing be possible on a gaming console with no Internet connection? Most gamers would say "yes," but they have been worried that Microsoft feels differently; the next generation Xbox has been consistently rumored to require a permanent network connection.

It won't.

According to an internal Microsoft e-mail sent to all full-time employees working on the next Xbox, "Durango [the codename for the next Xbox] is designed to deliver the future of entertainment while engineered to be tolerant of today's Internet." It continues, "There are a number of scenarios that our users expect to work without an Internet connection, and those should 'just work' regardless of their current connection status. Those include, but are not limited to: playing a Blu-ray disc, watching live TV, and yes playing a single player game."

How far this offline support will extend still isn't clear. It could take the form of a fully offline mode akin to that on the Xbox 360 (insert optical disc, install game, play, all without an Internet connection) or it could be more like Steam (install and activate online but enable subsequent offline play once this has been done).

While one could argue that "installing a game" is one of the "scenarios" that gamers "expect to work" when offline, a more Steam-like approach would be consistent with rumors that the next Xbox will use its Internet connection to block installation of secondhand games.

Still, though the next Xbox won't make everybody happy, it looks like fears that the console will be useless when your broadband goes down have been overblown.
post #5426 of 7006
Why would MS need to send such a high level internal memo like that? I am not buying that as an internal MS memo. It could be an intentional leak but anyone working on the Durango should already have such high level instruction well internalized.
post #5427 of 7006
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Originally Posted by ThumperII View Post

Why would MS need to send such a high level internal memo like that? I am not buying that as an internal MS memo. It could be an intentional leak but anyone working on the Durango should already have such high level instruction well internalized.

Probably because of the guy that got in a flame war on twitter.
post #5428 of 7006
it's because the blog sites latch on to every single rumor, especially the rumors that drive views and hits. the lifeblood of news sites and blogs is new information. rumors are rumors. the funny thing about rumors is that people say they know it's just rumors but they more than likely latch onto them as truth than rumor. rumors also go both ways. any red herrings you can throw out there to distract your competitors serves the purpose. product design and plans constantly evolve over time until release date which is the reason why you shouldn't listen to rumors because none of them matter. the only thing that matters is what's on the store shelves.

and nothing's strange about a company wide email. Each division is self-sufficient and often autonomous. In fact, it was Sinofsky that was the driving force to try to better integrate the divisions (some say it was more to have multiple divisions in his grasp). Microsoft is a big corporation and one side of the organization often has no clue about the other side of the corporation. There was a funny story about the inventor of the Kinect doing research on how to improve the algorithms during the design phase of the Kinect. He piled through tons of research papers, only to find out one of the key guys already worked for Microsoft.

Xbox is always a big event for Microsoft because it's one of Microsoft's only halo products so now that it's nearing release, it's time for the whole company to be excited. Microsoft releases company wide memos near the release of all of their halo products from Windows to Office to Xbox to get everyone up to speed and excited about the company as a whole, not just keeping everyone to their own division. the next Xbox has had much more input from other divisions as well than ever before. some of the key guys in the Windows division were directly involved in the OS of the next Xbox which had always been done by only the Xbox division.
post #5429 of 7006
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Originally Posted by ThumperII View Post

Why would MS need to send such a high level internal memo like that? I am not buying that as an internal MS memo. It could be an intentional leak but anyone working on the Durango should already have such high level instruction well internalized.

Shrug, there were rumors Microsoft really upped the security surround the development of the Xbox. So it is possible they are informing the general Xbox team ahead of the reveal on the 21st. I take all of these rumors with a grain of salt.

http://www.geekwire.com/2012/microsofts-boosts-security-xbox-hq-advance-hardware/
Edited by spid - 5/6/13 at 10:24am
post #5430 of 7006
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Originally Posted by ctiq21 View Post

Probably because of the guy that got in a flame war on twitter.

Except it wasn't a flame war on twitter.
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