Originally Posted by number1laing
There were no USB ports on the Xbox.
The whole problem with the 360 was that it used USB but required a propietary interface. On PS3 you could use regular USB accessories but not on 360.
It's just a jerk move to change that propietary interface and lock out the people who spent hundreds of dollars on 360 accessories.
It didn't use a proprietary interface, it used standard USB technology. But they choose to lock out things like PC controllers to force you to buy official controllers and for the licensing stream of revenue from licensing 3rd parties to create authorized controllers. Authorized 360 controllers have a security chip that allows the 360 to identify it as an authorized controller.
And the Xbox controller ports were standard USB despite the differently shaped console style plugs. All you need to do to turn one into a USB connected controller is to create an adapter so it could physically plug into one or graft on a standard USB connector. It's no different than the miniature USB plugs on many mobile devices, sometimes proprietary, sometimes the official mini design. It's still USB technology that can connect and communicate to a full sized USB port but just a different and more suitable form factor on the mobile device itself.
They could've easily created a Xbox controller adapter with a home button on the adapter with none of the issues of the Sony PS/PS2 controller adapter that had to convert the signals since it was a proprietary setup without underlying USB technology. But they wanted you to buy new 360 controllers to fill out multiplayer rosters, have an arcade stick, etc. Not buy a $10 adapter to use your existing Xbox controllers.
Originally Posted by spid
I am not exactly sure how it is a jerk move. The accessories you bought to use for the 360 will still work with the 360. There is no imperative to get rid of your 360 with no backward compatibility. If you want to stop playing games on the 360 and get rid of it then get rid of everything at the same time.
There's no reason except wanting money to force people to buy new wired flight sticks, wired digital gamepads, wired arcade sticks, etc. So you have to expect the backlash from individuals that want to do something logically and fully reasonable like bring their several hundred dollar Fanatec Xbox 360 compatible wheel/pedal set over to their Xbox One.
But Microsoft won't allow it simply because they want you to rebuy everything. There's nothing wrong with a corporation wanting more money but they have to balance that need with pleasing their customers. That's why Sony allowed PS/PS2 controllers to be utilized and many PC accessories with no Sony connection like racing wheels to be used on the PS3.
I use my $150 or so Saitek flight stick & throttle on the PS3 for Birds of Prey/Birds of Steel for instance. Two of the very few PS3 releases that were available on the 360 where I went with the PS3 versions.
Wonder what you'll have to do to get an X-Arcade working on this since they never were willing to grant them a license for their arcade sticks. It was convoluted enough on the 360 with all the wires and having to plug in an official wired 360 controller to bypass the 360's security that blocks unofficial controllers. Can't imagine the situation on the Xbox One...
Originally Posted by americangunner
They won't purely due to arrogance. Kinect sold pretty well, but a lot of the hardcore gamers hated it or rarely used it, yet they still push it pretty hard all the time. There is no way they end up backing off kinect.
A Kinect never got into my home because they never released any games that made me want to spend that investment.
The so called "hardcore" needs to have things like Sony provided with the Move. The House of the Dead games, for instance.
The Kinect's minigames I had my fill of years ago on the Wii. And the few attempts like Steel Battalion crashed and burned spectacularly.Edited by Leo_Ames - 5/22/13 at 2:00pm