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post #1441 of 2589
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Originally Posted by Justind123 View Post

I have my ps3 connected to HDMI on the AVR.... whats a good movie to test out my 7.1 with this setup? something in action would be my choice..

I have blueray Terminator 2 that sound pretty good and put the sub to work too.

Music in Tron is pretty good too.
Think of it some of the Sequence in the Starwars trilogy will not be bad either.
post #1442 of 2589
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Originally Posted by rhregis View Post

Is your PS3 connected to BD In or HDMI 1?

was this ? for me? if so its connected in BD
post #1443 of 2589
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Originally Posted by apaulct View Post

I assume you mean -46db not -0.46db, if it's -.46db there's a problem. As ccotenj said, -46db in nothing. We normally listen to TV at around -22db and movies at -18 to -14db. -18db gives me peaks of around 90db at the listening area.

OK. Now that I go look at it and see what you both were saying it makes more sense. My old ES always turned at the same level it was turned off. The default on this was set to --- so it was as low as it could be everytime I turned it on and then I put the TV on and went to -22 and it sounded really good and at -18 for movies would be enough to annoy my wife and have her tell me to turn it down. The bass is great on this.

Do you by any chance know what my "B" speakers/Zone 2 issue may be?

Thanks for the quick relpies!

Tom
post #1444 of 2589
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Originally Posted by Justind123 View Post

ummmm..... did not expect those answers... haha

what did u expect

You can find a list here, just select 7.1 under audio:
http://www.blu-raystats.com/Stats/Stats.php

The site catalogs 5407 blu-rays, only 286 are 7.1 audio, that's just over 5%. Like I said, most are still 5.1.
post #1445 of 2589
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Originally Posted by iafzal View Post

I am in the same boat with my Sats going down to 115 and 130hz but cross over is either 100 or 150.
I have it set to 100Hz cross over as 150 for me may miss more content.

i wish Pioneer update the firmware to add the option for 120hz

i wish i had a pony too, but that's not happening...
post #1446 of 2589
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Originally Posted by rhregis View Post

It appears that it will only power 1 set of speakers (2). You can however hook up another amp that will power 2 sets of speakers.

Yes Airplay will output to Zone 2.

What if I put impedance matching volume controls in between the receiver and each of the 2 speaker sets? Would that be doable?
post #1447 of 2589
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Originally Posted by Tkaminski View Post

Do you by any chance know what my "B" speakers/Zone 2 issue may be?
Tom

I'll try ...

"B" speakers allow you to play 5.1 in your main room & the same program in stereo thru the B speakers in another room. This setup allows you to connect rear speakers for 7.1 & the 2 B speakers. With B on you get 5.1 + 2.0. With B off, you can get 7.1 in the main room.

Zone 2 allows you to play one source at 5.1 in the main room & a different source in Zone 2. This is hard wired & all you get is 5.1 in the main room regardless.
post #1448 of 2589
Hi All-

My panasonic ST30 just got delivered and I can't get video to output from the receiver..

For the past few days, I've had a computer monitor hooked up with an HDMI -> DVI cable and things have been working fine.

I have a HD Cable box, panasonic blue ray player connected to the receiver via HDMI cables. I also have an old school xbox360 connected via component cables. I have a single HDMI cable connected the AVR to my Panny ST30.

I am getting audio through my 5.1 speakers and the HDMI into the receiver is registering as connected, but the ST30 isn't detecting the video signal from the AVR. I have tried changing inputs, etc. and am positive it is on the right one.

Anyone have this issue before? It's odd that video was working on my monitor a few hours ago but not now. I've toggled V.CONV on/off and changed the resolution (although I'm not sure if steps need to be taken other than toggling the change and turning the receiver off/on). Thanks in advance
post #1449 of 2589
^^^ Hi kcurtin, you may try power down tv and receiver ... then unplug power cord from wall outlet for both units. Wait about 15 or 30 seconds and plug power cord back up. Wait another 15 or 30 seconds and turn on tv then receiver and your source (give a few seconds in between).
post #1450 of 2589
worked! Thank you!
post #1451 of 2589
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Originally Posted by rhregis View Post

Justind123,

I used this for my wifi connection NETGEAR WNCE2001 Universal WiFi Internet Adapter. It works great, got it at Amazon.

Also, can you list your settings for the pass through? It appears that your are the only one that has this working.

Thanks,

I purchased the same adapter, my router recognized it but the receiver is stating no adapter. Signal strength is 87 per router all 3 green light are on. Don't get it. HELP.
post #1452 of 2589
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Originally Posted by Peterose2002 View Post


I purchased the same adapter, my router recognized it but the receiver is stating no adapter. Signal strength is 87 per router all 3 green light are on. Don't get it. HELP.

Ok stupid me- I was trying to access the adapter port and not the hmg input. Its working. Now just have to figure out how to gain access to my computer as I'm getting "unauthorized" message. Never ends!
post #1453 of 2589
So is there a cheap way around the bluetooth module thats sold separetly?
post #1454 of 2589
Hello!

I've had a Pioneer VSX-D608 receiver that's served me fairly well for over 11 years, but it's time to upgrade so that I can have my video devices using the receiver too. I think this receiver would be a pretty good fit for me. I also have a set of Bose Acoustimass speakers -- 5 speakers plus the subwoofer. I'm not planning to upgrade speakers just now... I want to consider options for building in rear speakers to my somewhat odd living room space (it's an open floorplan).

So my question is, if I'm happy with the speakers now, will I still be happy with this receiver?

My other question is, and I'm a little embarrassed to admit it, I've never been totally sure of the settings on the receiver for my particular speakers. The speakers have non-speaker wire plugs that go into the subwoofer, then there is regular speaker cable that goes into the receiver. Is the receiver setting for "subwoofer" supposed to be on or off, since the subwoofer itself isn't actually plugged into the receiver? Also settings like "crossover" and such, what should they be?

Thanks very much. This area is not really my strong suit
post #1455 of 2589
Hey Guys, I need a little help.
I just got my new TV and my new VSX1021, and having some trouble setting it up with my PS3. Right now, i have 6.1 set up in my main room, and then outdoor rock speakers set up for the other 2, i will hardly, if ever, use the rock speakers, but I am trying to get my 6.1 to work correctly with my PS3. I cant seem to figure out how i need to set it up to get the highest resolution Audio that my BRD offers. What do I need to set my PS3 to output the audio as? And how do I set up the receiver to output the higher res audio formats? How do I set the Speakers A/B? What should the display on the receiver itself say when receiving (and playing) that higher res audio?

Thanks
post #1456 of 2589
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Originally Posted by REL77 View Post

Hey Guys, I need a little help.
I just got my new TV and my new VSX1021, and having some trouble setting it up with my PS3.

Hi REL77, do you have a fat or slim PS3?

If you have a fat PS3 (which can't Bitstream) set it to LPCM.
If you have the new slim PS3, it can be set to either LPCM or Bitstream.

In the PS3 XMB, set "BD/DVD Audio Output Format (HDMI)" to Bitstream which is found under Video Settings.
Also make sure to set "Audio Multi-Output" to Off which is found under Sound Settings.

And also note sometimes a Blu Ray disc will default to the standard DD/DTS track, so you might have to manually select the TrueHD/DTSHD-MA soundtrack. Normally this will be found under Audio or Language Setting.
post #1457 of 2589
Has anyone had problems with their Airplay icon not showing up? I haven't checked into this too much but I cannot get my ipod touch to show an airplay icon. The receiver is on the network as I can stream music but no luck with airplay thus far.

I also wish there was a better way to tweak the crossover. I'm running 2 Athena F2's in front with an Athena B1 as my center, BIC F12 sub and Energy Takes as rears. I feel like I am missing a sweet spot for crossover level What has everyone else done? Just set all speakers to small and push the low levels to the sub?
post #1458 of 2589
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Originally Posted by Whitearrow View Post

My other question is, and I'm a little embarrassed to admit it, I've never been totally sure of the settings on the receiver for my particular speakers. The speakers have non-speaker wire plugs that go into the subwoofer, then there is regular speaker cable that goes into the receiver. Is the receiver setting for "subwoofer" supposed to be on or off, since the subwoofer itself isn't actually plugged into the receiver? Also settings like "crossover" and such, what should they be?

That's not a subwoofer, no matter what Bose calls it. It's just the woofer for all 5 of the satellites.

Unless the Bose has a separate "subwoofer" or "LFE" input, set all speakers to "large" and subwoofer to "none." What happens is that the bass module of the Bose has built-in crossovers, and takes the full-range signal and sends the parts of it the satellites can reproduce to them, and handles the bass itself. With the speakers set to Large, the crossover setting won't matter.

If the bass module does have its own LFE/sub input, then connect it to the AVR sub out, and set the other speakers to small. Run MCACC to find an appropriate crossover frequency, but it's probably 150Hz.
post #1459 of 2589
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Originally Posted by rdclark View Post

That's not a subwoofer, no matter what Bose calls it. It's just the woofer for all 5 of the satellites.

Unless the Bose has a separate "subwoofer" or "LFE" input, set all speakers to "large" and subwoofer to "none." What happens is that the bass module of the Bose has built-in crossovers, and takes the full-range signal and sends the parts of it the satellites can reproduce to them, and handles the bass itself. With the speakers set to Large, the crossover setting won't matter.

If the bass module does have its own LFE/sub input, then connect it to the AVR sub out, and set the other speakers to small. Run MCACC to find an appropriate crossover frequency, but it's probably 150Hz.

Thanks, that's very helpful.

I've done a little more reading here and have learned that my next speakers will probably not be Bose. I don't know what they will be, but for now I just want to be relatively happy with how this speaker sounds. Thanks for the setting suggestions.
post #1460 of 2589
I have been trying to get this going on my set-up at home and have not been successful. I finally contacted Pioneer support and they stated that they have had an overwhelming number of calls on this issue.
Here is what they said:

1. Your components have to support HDMI v1.3 or higher. If they are, they should support Pioneer's HDMI Control. The trick will be finding it in your device and turning it on. Different brands have their own names for HDMI Control such as Samsung calls it Anynet+, and Sharp calls it Link.

2. He wished me luck.

I will look into this when I get home.
post #1461 of 2589
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Originally Posted by rhregis View Post

I have been trying to get this going on my set-up at home and have not been successful. I finally contacted Pioneer support and they stated that they have had an overwhelming number of calls on this issue.
Here is what they said:

1. Your components have to support HDMI v1.3 or higher. If they are, they should support Pioneer's HDMI Control. The trick will be finding it in your device and turning it on. Different brands have their own names for HDMI Control such as Samsung calls it Anynet+, and Sharp calls it Link.

2. He wished me luck.

I will look into this when I get home.

Well, I did a test today and was to prove my receiver and my devices such as PS3, dvd, and another dish pvr stb. in another tv with my hdmi cable and the setting that I had and it worked super well. The receiver off and still saw the devices. This mean that my tv is the problem. My tv does not support ARC (audio return channel) but if not why not pass the signal. Someone can tell me if the problem is the tv?
post #1462 of 2589
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Originally Posted by JChin View Post

Hi REL77, do you have a fat or slim PS3?

If you have a fat PS3 (which can't Bitstream) set it to LPCM.
If you have the new slim PS3, it can be set to either LPCM or Bitstream.

In the PS3 XMB, set "BD/DVD Audio Output Format (HDMI)" to Bitstream which is found under Video Settings.
Also make sure to set "Audio Multi-Output" to Off which is found under Sound Settings.

And also note sometimes a Blu Ray disc will default to the standard DD/DTS track, so you might have to manually select the TrueHD/DTSHD-MA soundtrack. Normally this will be found under Audio or Language Setting.


Thanks, I have a Fat PS3... What should the reciever display be when i have it outputting LPCM? Last question is with the setup i posted above, should I only select Speakers A?
post #1463 of 2589
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Originally Posted by shakal View Post

Well, I did a test today and was to prove my receiver and my devices such as PS3, dvd, and another dish pvr stb. in another tv with my hdmi cable and the setting that I had and it worked super well. The receiver off and still saw the devices. This mean that my tv is the problem. My tv does not support ARC (audio return channel) but if not why not pass the signal. Someone can tell me if the problem is the tv?

Well, I tried what Pioneer support suggested. All my devices are compatible, Samsung UN55C7000, and Directv DVR HR24-100, check!

The good news is that it all worked as described, turned off receiver, and video and audio still worked through to the TV. The bad news is that it only works for approximately 4 seconds.

I don't know what else to try, I am about to throw in the towel. This is the only feature of this receiver that I can't get to work.

Any ideas?
post #1464 of 2589
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Originally Posted by rhregis View Post

Well, I tried what Pioneer support suggested. All my devices are compatible, Samsung UN55C7000, and Directv DVR HR24-100, check!

The good news is that it all worked as described, turned off receiver, and video and audio still worked through to the TV. The bad news is that it only works for approximately 4 seconds.

I don't know what else to try, I am about to throw in the towel. This is the only feature of this receiver that I can't get to work.

Any ideas?

Iam in the same boat
post #1465 of 2589
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Originally Posted by shakal View Post

Iam in the same boat

try turning everything on in your system hooked up to the AVR... EVERYTHING. then turn the AVR off...

I had the same issue and i found it to be that even the PS3 had to be on for it to work...
post #1466 of 2589
anybody find a cheap alternative to the blue tooth dongle yet?
post #1467 of 2589
So my new 1021 was delivered yesterday, and after spending some time connecting speakers, DVR, Apple TV and PS3 I powered it up and started the setup procedure. Everything seems to work ok, although after running MCACC a couple of times I have a couple of issues. First off, I'm replacing an older VSX-816, so I'm aware of how MCACC works, and although the OSD is nicer on the new one, it's basically the same.

So after running MCACC the first time, I'm getting Reverse Phase warnings on both of my surround speakers (5.1 setup). I checked the cables, and everything is correct, so not sure why this is happening. My second issue is with the output level. After MCACC was complete, my output seems to be very low. On my 816, it was almost deafening at -40db. With the 1021, a normal listening volume seems to be at about -16db. Should I be worried that something is wrong with this receiver? Any ideas? Thanks in advance for your help!
post #1468 of 2589
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Originally Posted by fotomatt1 View Post

So after running MCACC the first time, I'm getting Reverse Phase warnings on both of my surround speakers (5.1 setup). I checked the cables, and everything is correct, so not sure why this is happening. My second issue is with the output level. After MCACC was complete, my output seems to be very low. On my 816, it was almost deafening at -40db. With the 1021, a normal listening volume seems to be at about -16db. Should I be worried that something is wrong with this receiver? Any ideas? Thanks in advance for your help!

a) Are your surrounds a different model speaker from the others? It's possible that they are inherently phase-reversed compared to your other speakers.

b) I don't know how the volume display is calibrated on the 816. On the 1021, "-16" means 16dB below reference, which seems pretty normal. On my system, which is DefTech Promonitor 1000s and ProCenter 2000, I often find myself at -10, especially with some movies on BD.

Reference level is very, very loud.
post #1469 of 2589
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Originally Posted by rdclark View Post

a) Are your surrounds a different model speaker from the others? It's possible that they are inherently phase-reversed compared to your other speakers.

b) I don't know how the volume display is calibrated on the 816. On the 1021, "-16" means 16dB below reference, which seems pretty normal. On my system, which is DefTech Promonitor 1000s and ProCenter 2000, I often find myself at -10, especially with some movies on BD.

Reference level is very, very loud.

Thanks for the input! I guess it's just disconcerting when you replace a receiver with a new one of the same make and you have to crank the volume a lot higher to achieve the same result, but I can understand that they may have changed how the volume display is calibrated.

My surround speakers are exactly the same as my front left and right speakers, and I didn't get the phase reversed warning on my 816. I suppose the mic on the 1021 could be more sensitive than the 816's?
post #1470 of 2589
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Originally Posted by fotomatt1 View Post

So my new 1021 was delivered yesterday, and after spending some time connecting speakers, DVR, Apple TV and PS3 I powered it up and started the setup procedure. Everything seems to work ok, although after running MCACC a couple of times I have a couple of issues. First off, I'm replacing an older VSX-816, so I'm aware of how MCACC works, and although the OSD is nicer on the new one, it's basically the same.

So after running MCACC the first time, I'm getting Reverse Phase warnings on both of my surround speakers (5.1 setup). I checked the cables, and everything is correct, so not sure why this is happening. My second issue is with the output level. After MCACC was complete, my output seems to be very low. On my 816, it was almost deafening at -40db. With the 1021, a normal listening volume seems to be at about -16db. Should I be worried that something is wrong with this receiver? Any ideas? Thanks in advance for your help!

Pages 25, 59 and 73 in the manual talk about "reverse phase". It happened to me also, I just swapped L & R speakers and it went away although it probably was the repositioning slightly that corrected it.

Normal listening to me is also around -20db to -10db.
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