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post #211 of 2665
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Originally Posted by winston9332 View Post

Could be bad firmware too...

The first one I received, I did install the latest firmware before it quit. The remaining two, I couldn't even get the menu to display on my monitor to navigate through the firmware install. Oh well. I'll just wait and see what I get with my Amazon replacement.
post #212 of 2665
i smell a bs
post #213 of 2665
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Originally Posted by samsung760
i smell a bs
My first unit from Amazon was bought the second they became available, but it wouldn't turn on at all. Sent it back and picked one up from Best Buy and the only issue I experienced was the MCACC saying my front speakers were out of phase, when they were connected correctly. I use every feature and every input the thing has, and no issues.... But there was the first unit that was DOA.
post #214 of 2665
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Originally Posted by samsung760 View Post
i smell a bs
Elaborate please...
post #215 of 2665
Can anyone confirm that A/B switching is possible/easy using iControl AV2/ipad?
post #216 of 2665
Hey guys,
I just returned my 1021 today at BestBuy only to find no more in stock, and the home theater sales man saying they got a recall last week for all receivers on the shelf.... Including the ones with the lastest firmware. He mentioned they are having power supply issues with these receivers.

Cant wait for these receivers to be fixed because of all the amazing features for the price that all of us bought this receiver in the first place

After making a couple of phone calls to other bestbuy locations, they are saying there are no recalls.... Why cant these guys get on the same page?!
post #217 of 2665
I added two extra speakers to the rear tonight (upgrade to 7.1) and ran the auto setup/calibration. It complained I have reverse polarity on the right surround rear and to check +/- wiring. Everything was correct however. I ignored the issue and the setup completed successfully.
post #218 of 2665
I feel your pain. Got mine about 3 weeks ago from Amazon. Was enjoying it all through last night. Last night I noticed that when the receiver was muted that there was static coming through the left speaker. Changing inputs did not make a difference. Switching the left and right speakers only made it come out of the right speaker. So something was up with the left speaker terminals (or something worse). I also noticed that when playing through airplay, when I adjusted the volume on the receiver, the volume would just snap back to where it was before I adjusted it. Ok. Little weird.
Tonight when I get home from work, I put it on, and I get "amp error" on the panel. Then it shuts off and the MCACC light is blinking and I cannot power it back on. Disconnect everything and put it on my dining room table (with nothing connected to it), plug it in and same thing. MCACC light blinking and cannot power it on. Good thing Amazon has a great return policy. So I have a new one coming.
I have to say that I really wanted to love this receiver. I was so excited to be getting it and when it finally came, I sort of just "liked" it. The sound was great to me. I am no audiophile but I expected much more from the remote control which is a train wreck. The instructions are absolutely horrible. The user interface on the screen is horrific. The feature set is great and I appreciate all of the possible settings, but really do I need them all? Sometimes less is more in my opinion. For example, you go through the MCACC setup and it decides that my little speakers are large speakers which disables the subwoofer except for the LFE channel. Then it takes me 2 hours to figure out why my subwoofer is not working. The HDMI standby pass through is a joke. OK so it does indeed work with my Sony Bluray, but not my TIVO or Apple TV. Maybe because these devices do not have a power switch, maybe because they do not support HDMI control, maybe because they are not in the correct input? Who knows as the user manual hardly mentions this very important feature. I would assume that there would be some sort of logical setup where you would pick the input that you want to pass through full time and that would be it. I would obviously choose my TIVO over my Blueray player since I do not care to watch "The Biggest Loser" or shows like that through my receiver. My TV speakers are fine for that.
On a positive note, Airplay is great, Movies and Music sound really good to me, the ipad and iphone apps are cool but lacking basic channel level control which would be key for me.
So after all of my whining and ranting, at the end of the day, I am choosing to replace my 1021-k with another 1021-k as the positives out-weigh the negatives for me.
I just hope I do not regret it or ever have to deal with Pioneer tech support. We all know how that would go. They would probably blame my speakers or my components.

Will let you all know how it goes.
post #219 of 2665
Man, I hope they work out these issues. I was leaning towards making this the center piece of my new set up. It just seems like the deaturesat the price point can't be beat. I'd be leery if was Dynex or something, but Pioneer? I expect a certain level of quality. Maybe I am wrong.
post #220 of 2665
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Originally Posted by mabbaticchio View Post

I feel your pain. Got mine about 3 weeks ago from Amazon. Was enjoying it all through last night. Last night I noticed that when the receiver was muted that there was static coming through the left speaker. Changing inputs did not make a difference. Switching the left and right speakers only made it come out of the right speaker. So something was up with the left speaker terminals (or something worse). I also noticed that when playing through airplay, when I adjusted the volume on the receiver, the volume would just snap back to where it was before I adjusted it. Ok. Little weird.
Tonight when I get home from work, I put it on, and I get "amp error" on the panel. Then it shuts off and the MCACC light is blinking and I cannot power it back on. Disconnect everything and put it on my dining room table (with nothing connected to it), plug it in and same thing. MCACC light blinking and cannot power it on. Good thing Amazon has a great return policy. So I have a new one coming.
I have to say that I really wanted to love this receiver. I was so excited to be getting it and when it finally came, I sort of just "liked" it. The sound was great to me. I am no audiophile but I expected much more from the remote control which is a train wreck. The instructions are absolutely horrible. The user interface on the screen is horrific. The feature set is great and I appreciate all of the possible settings, but really do I need them all? Sometimes less is more in my opinion. For example, you go through the MCACC setup and it decides that my little speakers are large speakers which disables the subwoofer except for the LFE channel. Then it takes me 2 hours to figure out why my subwoofer is not working. The HDMI standby pass through is a joke. OK so it does indeed work with my Sony Bluray, but not my TIVO or Apple TV. Maybe because these devices do not have a power switch, maybe because they do not support HDMI control, maybe because they are not in the correct input? Who knows as the user manual hardly mentions this very important feature. I would assume that there would be some sort of logical setup where you would pick the input that you want to pass through full time and that would be it. I would obviously choose my TIVO over my Blueray player since I do not care to watch "The Biggest Loser" or shows like that through my receiver. My TV speakers are fine for that.
On a positive note, Airplay is great, Movies and Music sound really good to me, the ipad and iphone apps are cool but lacking basic channel level control which would be key for me.
So after all of my whining and ranting, at the end of the day, I am choosing to replace my 1021-k with another 1021-k as the positives out-weigh the negatives for me.
I just hope I do not regret it or ever have to deal with Pioneer tech support. We all know how that would go. They would probably blame my speakers or my components.

Will let you all know how it goes.

Update: After careful thought, I decided to cancel my 1021-k replacement and go with the Onkyo 609. Points that made me change my mind are: better implementation of HDMI standby pass-through, better on screen UI, better (simpler) remote (I know I know, I have a harmony, but good luck getting it to work properly), solid reviews.
Since I saved $50 dollars by going this route, I just spent added a new Apple TV to my order to get the airplay functionality (at least I will be able to Airplay Video too) even though I already have an Applr TV 1st gen.
I will not post anything about the Onkyo in this forum unless anybody asks for direct comparisons as this is a Pioneer forum and do not want to take away from that. I think the 1020-k is a great receiver and I hope you all enjoy it. I sure did.
post #221 of 2665
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Originally Posted by BurtReynolds View Post

Man, I hope they work out these issues. I was leaning towards making this the center piece of my new set up. It just seems like the deaturesat the price point can't be beat. I'd be leery if was Dynex or something, but Pioneer? I expect a certain level of quality. Maybe I am wrong.

Remember one thing. Just because mine broke, does not mean yours will. Go for it knowing you are well protected by Amazon. Their return policy is second to none. I did not have to deal with Pioneer so I am not sure how that would play out. Amazon paid for return shipping which I am not sure Pioneer would do.
post #222 of 2665
I was really tempted to pick this receiver up but after reading about all these issues I think I'll have to pass. I'll probably go with the Denon 2112 instead. It's a shame because the Pio seemed like a great bang for the buck.
post #223 of 2665
Ok. Well I guess I am one of the few owners here that am totally happy with this receiver.

I got it about 2 weeks ago and I am quite amazed at how well everything works. With the exception of a few minor iOS app bugs this sucker is working like a total charm.

I highly recommend it. The iOS apps a long are worth the money and Airplay works great!
post #224 of 2665
WD MyBookLive 2T NAS
Motorola Surfboard SB5101U
D-Link DIR-655
VSX-1021-k
Ipad App
Iphone 4 app
Rocketfish 6 pair selector RF-SSVC6
4 ceiling speakers
2 outdoor speakers
AppleTV 2

I ran a Cat5 from the AVR to the router.
The NAS is connected to the router with Cat5 also.

I'm currently not using it for any video. I use it to control my whole house audio. When I built the cabin, I ran a speaker to each downstairs room (ceiling) and 2 to the porch. All the wires come into a media 'closet'. 2 more speakers are going out in my new garden area eventually. The Rocketfish controls the output (so I can turn on and off speakers so I don't wake the kid) and the Ipad/iphone apps controls the music when sitting at the fire in the garden area. Eventually this will be in my main setup but I'm still in the beginings of making my theater watching area.

I like it so far. Going to finish the setup tonight. I did notice that I couldn't get it to see my iTunes. For some reason it went straight to Windows Media Center files (not good as I use iTunes). I'm saw a post about going to iTunes preferences and allowing sharing on the local network. Going to try that tonight. I was able to play internet radio and connect to my NAS through HMG which has all my media on it anyway.

The app is cool but I think that when you are selecting your music, that area should be a bit bigger. I have 30+ gigs of music which is a lot of scrolling in that small area.

I wasn't able to get airplay to work yet but I'm thinking that has something to do with ^^^^^^

We'll see tonight.
post #225 of 2665
The receiver will not see the iTunes Library. Itunes does not support DLNA but Windows Media Player does.
post #226 of 2665
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Originally Posted by mabbaticchio View Post

The receiver will not see the iTunes Library. Itunes does not support DLNA but Windows Media Player does.

I'm okay with that.
Even when my computer is off, the AVR sees my NAS which has all of the music on it. I guess I can just add the NAS media to Windows Media Player and set up playlist in that. No big deal.

But I still can not airplay to my AVR. I'm not sure what the problem is. Before I hooked up my AVR I had Airplay working from my PC, Ipad & Iphone 4 to AppleTV. After the hookup I couldn't get Airplay working from my PC to Airplay but it is working from Ipad/Iphone to Apple TV.

I'm uninstalling everything Apple on the PC and reverting back to iTunes 10.1.2.17. I hoping that I can get Airplay working again from the PC to Apple TV.

I can deal with not having Airplay to the AVR if needed, although that's half the reason I got the AVR in the first place (the other was the ability to control the AVR with the ipad)
post #227 of 2665
Other than the single hiccup with setting up the 7.1 surround I am happy with the receiver so far.
post #228 of 2665
Hey i also have the 1021k
and im wondering what settings do you guys use when watching true hd or master audio?
Auto Surround? Pure Direct? PQLS? Sound Retriever? on a 5.1
post #229 of 2665
i love this receiver
post #230 of 2665
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Originally Posted by Supra_98 View Post

Hey i also have the 1021k
and im wondering what settings do you guys use when watching true hd or master audio?
Auto Surround? Pure Direct? PQLS? Sound Retriever? on a 5.1

i used standard dts- mastered with phase control
post #231 of 2665
Hey guys, since my greenbutton.com account is jacked I thought I'd post this here since it relates to the receiver.

If I configure my speakers in Windows 7 as 5.1, and set the receiver for Dolby Digtal Ex or Dolby PLIIx Movie, I only get audio from the L and R channels when playing back live TV from media center using a Ceton InfiniTV 4. I've confirmed the source content is broadcasting Dolby Digital. The only way I can get audio from all channels is ExtStereo which doesn't separate the channels. Video card is an ATI-5450 connected to receiver via HDMI. Any ideas?
post #232 of 2665
Found my answer in another thread on this forum. Problem was setting WMC to use 5.1. Setting to stereo allows the receiver to decode instead. Problem solved.
post #233 of 2665
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Originally Posted by BooMaLiCiOuS View Post

Hey guys,
I just returned my 1021 today at BestBuy only to find no more in stock, and the home theater sales man saying they got a recall last week for all receivers on the shelf.... Including the ones with the lastest firmware. He mentioned they are having power supply issues with these receivers.
...

I was told the same thing at my local BB. I was looking to upgrade our existing 1019AH-K to accommodate a new 3D plasma and figured the 1021 was the way to go, since the 1019 has been such a winner.

However, the store showed two in stock, but they were no where to be found. After running around searching the store, the Magnolia guy came back and told me had been recalled.

Ending up getting a deal on a VSX-32, which I'm going to be happy with. It's a shame though, as I would have liked to give the new model a shot.
post #234 of 2665
People... forgive my ignorance... I am updating my 1988 Technics receiver. LOL.

How the heck do you hook up a direct tv box to this thing??? I have the HDMI from directtv to HDMI 1... and it works... but it is a total pain and I have to scroll through HDMI button everytime to get to it... there has to be an easier way since I will be using the tv 90% of the time.

Also, when in setup, the HDMI inputs are all greyed out on all components???

The manual is horrible and this thing is not intuitive.
Thanks for any help.
post #235 of 2665
Sorry... forgot to ask.... has anyone figured out if this remote can control a DirectTV box? (mine is DVR, HR21).
Thanks.
post #236 of 2665
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Tigervision View Post

Sorry... forgot to ask.... has anyone figured out if this remote can control a DirectTV box? (mine is DVR, HR21).
Thanks.

The remote is learning (frankly I believe the 1021 might be one of the least expensive receivers out there with a learning remote). The manual has very good instructions on how to learn IR commands.
post #237 of 2665
anyone know if this amp can run 6 ohm speakers?

I have these speakers
http://www.onkyousa.com/model.cfm?m=...ss=Speaker&p=s
post #238 of 2665
Has anyone tried this reciever using an Airport express via eithernet cable to the 1021? (I don't have a eithernet cable behind my TV so I put an airport express to connect the 1021 to my network). Airplay works, but constantly cuts out and/or the songs just stop playing randomly. I have tried this with two different airport express. The airport expresses play music fine to some cheap amplified computer speakers via the 3mm jack (i.e. no drop in signal or random shutting music off). Anyone else have similar problems? Thanks.
post #239 of 2665
Looks like my reciever might be a dud. I hooked up, as previously mentioned, 2 different airport expresses to eithernet. Songs on airplay stop after a short time (even though the title of the songs shows on display and phone is still playing song - just sounds stops however). So then I brought the reciever into my office, wired it directly to my router. Started playing songs... and again samething happened - music stops coming out after 20min or so, but the title of the songs still showing up on front of reciever. Tried streaming from two different iphone4's... same thing. So... it is not my network, not the iphone, etc.

Either this thing is a dud, or I am doing something wrong.

Also... I am a bit concerned as I read more and more people saying they had dud's from the get go too. Did pioneer rush this thing out too soon before some serious quality checks? If I feel motivated, I'll exchange mine to try a different unit.... but I still worry about too many duds coming off the line.
post #240 of 2665
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Originally Posted by Tigervision View Post

Songs on airplay stop after a short time (even though the title of the songs shows on display and phone is still playing song - just sounds stops however).

You're not alone; I'm experiencing the same thing with AirPlay. I just got my 1021 and haven't gone through the full setup yet (waiting for my sub to arrive), but couldn't wait to try to stream from my iPhone. Once the music stops playing, I can change the speaker to my iPhone then back to the 1021 and it reconnects to the network and plays through my AVR, but that's not an acceptable solution. I'm hoping I just have a setting wrong somewhere. Just wanted you to know you're not the only one experiencing this. More later once I do a full setup and some troubleshooting.
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