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post #2131 of 2663
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Originally Posted by apaulct View Post

Great news, Longhiway. Glad you were able to get the IP working. AFAIK, to pull media from your PC, you must setup a DLNA on the PC.

apaul -

I'm now thinking that when my router re-assigns the IP addresses to my other devices it may be re-assigning the port used by the receiver and I am getting a conflict the receiver cannot handle.

Note, the static IP address did work and the only change would have been when the other (dynamicly configured) devices lease time expired. There were no IP address conflicts yesterday but the HMG server returned errors when I tried to go out to the internet & not within my own network.

I tried to assign the port to the static IP address once, but I may have had other issues that resulted in a server error. Does your configuration include a fixed or assigned port setting as well?

Thanks,
post #2132 of 2663
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Originally Posted by Longhiway View Post

apaul -

I'm now thinking that when my router re-assigns the IP addresses to my other devices it may be re-assigning the port used by the receiver and I am getting a conflict the receiver cannot handle.

Note, the static IP address did work and the only change would have been when the other (dynamicly configured) devices lease time expired. There were no IP address conflicts yesterday but the HMG server returned errors when I tried to go out to the internet & not within my own network.

I tried to assign the port to the static IP address once, but I may have had other issues that resulted in a server error. Does your configuration include a fixed or assigned port setting as well?

Thanks,

Ports don't have to be unique or assigned for outbound traffic, NAT (Network Address Translation) handles that. The only time you must assign a port (via port forwarding) is when you want to accept incoming traffic from the Internet & forward it to a specific IP, e.g. Multiplayer gaming, incoming remote desktop from the net, etc. Just think, every device on your network with a browser communicates with the net over port 80. That's the long answer to no, I don't fix or assign any ports. Just be sure no ports are blocked in the router.

The offer still stands, if you want post your network info the the receiver & the make, model and IP info from your router & I'll try to help. If you don't want an open post, just PM me.
post #2133 of 2663
I just purchased the 1021k. I really enjoy it and reading the info in the forum.
post #2134 of 2663
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Originally Posted by woodyt1 View Post

Dianebrat, I believe you use dobly pro llz. It adds the back surrounds to 5.1
http://www.dolby.com/us/en/consumer/...logic-iiz.html

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Originally Posted by BIslander View Post

^^
PLIIz adds height channels. PLIIx does rears.

Awesome! I'll test this weekend, I knew someone had dealt with this one, it's not well documented even after reading the manual
post #2135 of 2663
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post #2136 of 2663
Help please!! My 1021 turns down 3db every 2 minutes. It does it on both my cable box HDMI input and Apple TV. I suspect Dial Norm but I can't find a way to turn it off. This is driving me crazy.

dave
post #2137 of 2663
Hey guys, I need a little help. I was finally able to get my wifi bridge hooked up, but I am having trouble with getting Airplay to work with any consistency. I seem to be able to stream music off my computer thru itunes and the remote app on my iphone without much trouble, but as soon as I switch over and try to stream music from pandora, or even music off my phone, the airplay drops out terribly, it will only play a second or two before the drop out happens, and then it might come back in for a couple seconds, and then it drops out again. The drop outs are minutes long at times.

I really think it has to do with my wifi bridge, but I dont know for sure, so if anyone could give me a little direction, it would be greatly appreciated.
post #2138 of 2663
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Originally Posted by dhetric View Post

Help please!! My 1021 turns down 3db every 2 minutes. It does it on both my cable box HDMI input and Apple TV. I suspect Dial Norm but I can't find a way to turn it off. This is driving me crazy.

Dialnorm adjustments only happen once, at the start of the playback. There's no setting to bypass dialnorm. Simply turn up the volujme if you want it louder. But, if your volume is being lowered again and again, the problem is not dialnorm.
post #2139 of 2663
Ok I'm very frustrated and searched the other results in this forum for my same problem but no avail.

If I run my ps3 (HMDI 6ft cable) to my 1021 then (HDMI 50ft cable) to mitsubishi HC4000 I get a snowy picture.

If I run the same setup with two 6 foot cables works fine. So I figured it was the 50 foot cable.

However if I run the ps3 to projector with the 50ft cable it works fine. If I hook the 50 foot cable from receiver to projector it works fine for the menu setup of the receiver. It's when I exit the menu setup screen of the receiver and go to my input (BD input) for my ps3 that it starts to get snow with the 50 foot cable.


Any ideas?

Ok after setting up the access point (for connecting to the network) I have with the 50 foot cable connected from the receiver to the projector it worked for the setup screens and allowed me to see everything clearly. Then when I tried to use airplay from my computer the sound worked fine, however the screen flickered as it tried to pull up the album information and the screen started flickering again and then went to snow again. Now I can't even pull up the setup screens without snow even after turning all devices off and back on in every conceivable order.
I'm not sure what to do?

Ok after some playing with the video parameter settings, I finally got it to work. I changed the resolution to "pure" and it started coming through just fine. I also changed the deep color to off on my ps3, but it still wasn't working until I made the pure resolution change.
post #2140 of 2663
Anyone use rhapsody? Rhapsody has a UPNP server but it does not seem to work with the receiver. Anyone have a solution to play music from rhapsody? I don't have an iphone or ipad and do not intend to buy one.
post #2141 of 2663
Trying to help a buddy setup his new vsx-1021. So far got network setup but seem to be having an issue with zone two. I have hooked up a pair of speakers to zone two but cannot get them to work when turning on zone 2 and setting to correct source. Is there any other setting that needs to be done to set up zone 2?

Thanks,

Paul
post #2142 of 2663
^^^

keep in mind that sources connected with digital (i.e. hdmi or spdif) cannot be routed to zone 2...
post #2143 of 2663
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Originally Posted by jgrime View Post

Hey guys, I need a little help. I was finally able to get my wifi bridge hooked up, but I am having trouble with getting Airplay to work with any consistency. I seem to be able to stream music off my computer thru itunes and the remote app on my iphone without much trouble, but as soon as I switch over and try to stream music from pandora, or even music off my phone, the airplay drops out terribly, it will only play a second or two before the drop out happens, and then it might come back in for a couple seconds, and then it drops out again. The drop outs are minutes long at times.

I really think it has to do with my wifi bridge, but I dont know for sure, so if anyone could give me a little direction, it would be greatly appreciated.

I've got similar behavior. I suspect it is the phone dropping off the network. I've got the receiver connected to my network via WIFI and have streamed internet radio long enough to convince me the receiver to the network is solid. I did stream from my PC to the receiver but not not long enough to consider this a valid test.
post #2144 of 2663
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Originally Posted by Longhiway View Post

I've got similar behavior. I suspect it is the phone dropping off the network. I've got the receiver connected to my network via WIFI and have streamed internet radio long enough to convince me the receiver to the network is solid. I did stream from my PC to the receiver but not not long enough to consider this a valid test.

Well, I ran a test on sunday. I hardwired my receiver to my home network and had absolutely no problem with Airplay streaming Pandora thru my iphone or ipad. Everything worked great. I let it go for about 3 hours without a single hiccup. In my previous set up, I could barely get it to work for 3 minutes.

Now I guess I need to do more research on which wifi bridge I need to buy to make this all work wirelessly. Any suggestions?
post #2145 of 2663
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Originally Posted by jgrime View Post

Well, I ran a test on sunday. I hardwired my receiver to my home network and had absolutely no problem with Airplay streaming Pandora thru my iphone or ipad. Everything worked great. I let it go for about 3 hours without a single hiccup. In my previous set up, I could barely get it to work for 3 minutes.

Now I guess I need to do more research on which wifi bridge I need to buy to make this all work wirelessly. Any suggestions?

search dd-wrt website for a bridge capable router.

I am using dlink DIR-615 that is working flawlessly for me although set up was a little painful.
post #2146 of 2663
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Originally Posted by jgrime View Post

Well, I ran a test on sunday. I hardwired my receiver to my home network and had absolutely no problem with Airplay streaming Pandora thru my iphone or ipad. Everything worked great. I let it go for about 3 hours without a single hiccup. In my previous set up, I could barely get it to work for 3 minutes.

Now I guess I need to do more research on which wifi bridge I need to buy to make this all work wirelessly. Any suggestions?

Just an update. In my case, it is the phone (iPhone 3Gs) dropping out. I streamed from my PC to the receiver via WIFI for like 3 + hours and it never lost the connection.

What WIFI dongle are you using and, are you sure this is giving you a solid connection? Put this a bit differently, are you having WIFI issues with other devices? Might rule out your bridge / router which, seems to be the case since you are using an iPad for hours via WIFI with no issues.
post #2147 of 2663
Have read this entire thread and need help. If I plug my HP laptop into lg TV via hdmi, works great. If I plug through vsx via hdmi, no luck. tried every input, which work for other devices, but not the laptop. Neither video nor audio is working. Anything I should try?

tenholde
post #2148 of 2663
I would like to have a 4 speaker setup in Zone 2. Can I assign the Height/Front Wide speaker terminals for use in Zone 2 along with the Surround Back/Zone 2 speaker terminals?

On the Crutchfield website for VSX-1021-K I found the following disclaimer:

"Note: It is not possible to produce sound simultaneously from the front height/front wide speakers and the surround back/Zone 2 speakers."

Is this true? Are there any other options, or can I only use 2 speakers in Zone 2?

I really appreciate any input!

Thanks,
Kelley
post #2149 of 2663
I have a question I am hoping you guys can help with, and I will also offer a solution for the guy with the 50ft HDMI cable issues.

With the 50 ft HDMI run, some equipment may have issues with the skewing of the signal (being an unbalanced cable). I have seen HDMI equilizers do wonders in this situation. They aren't powered, and are cheap, so it's worth a shot (search monoprice for HDMI equilizer).

My issue:

I have had my VSX-1021-K for a couple of months now. I have it connected to a 7.1 setup (2 front, 2 surround, 2 rear, 1 sub). If I connect a source via HDMI (so far my PS3 and my HTPC) and it sends the audio via a PCM format (anywhere from 2 channels to 7.1) the volume level is very low (In IcontrolAV I need to turn the volume to 4/5ths of the max for movie listening) and I hear quite a bit of noise from the speakers.

If I turn on digital streaming from the HTPC, for much of the content the volume level appears to be increased (now I can listen at a little over 1/2 the total volume level) and the noise is virtually eliminated. There are differences though from DTS to Dolby, I haven't troubleshot with enough media to determine which work best.

In any case, when listening to music via built in Internet radio, the receiver is loud as heck (so I know it's not a speaker or amp issue) and there is no noise at appropriate volume levels.

Is there something I am missing, some setting that is causing the noise in the analog streams or is not pre-amping these sources enough?

I read through the first 20 or so pages of this thread and didn't see anything related to my issue (except possibly the firmware update, but that was limited to 5.1 setups).

Any and all suggestions are greatly appreciated.
post #2150 of 2663
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Originally Posted by woodyt1 View Post

Dianebrat, I believe you use dobly pro llz. It adds the back surrounds to 5.1
http://www.dolby.com/us/en/consumer/...logic-iiz.html

Quote:
Originally Posted by BIslander View Post

^^
PLIIz adds height channels. PLIIx does rears.

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Originally Posted by dianebrat View Post

Awesome! I'll test this weekend, I knew someone had dealt with this one, it's not well documented even after reading the manual

Indeed Dolby PLIIx does the trick, thanks folks.
I kept reading the documentation for PLIIx and inferring that the source needed to be encoded in PLIIx for it to work, I didn't make the connection that it was supposed to do exactly what it really does, and that was indeed what I was looking for.
post #2151 of 2663
Earlier posts discussed the problems of connecting Pioneer receivers to nas servers.
My local network connects a Pioneer VSX-921, a Sony Brava 40EX720 TV, a PC, a Mac and a nas disk (Buffalo Cloudstation) all together. The nas contains audio and images. The Sony tv has no problems in reading all these files from the nas. It will play the audio files (only MP3). The VSX-921 however, has no access to the nas. In HMG, the nas is marked as "not authorized".
I've tried to solve this by changing the DHCP settings: no result. When I use Windows Media player to share the nas audio files as media library, this library will be visible and accessible in HMG. But this is not what I want. What can I do to get rid of the "not authorized" message?
post #2152 of 2663
I've read through most of this thread but I guess I've missed a possible solution to the AirPlay Zone 2 issue others seem to have. When I first initiate AirPlay from a device it turns on HMG and forces whatever you are watching in Zone 1 to switch. I have a Harmony One, so I simply hit Help and get Zone 1 back. I'm not seeing a solution for this, or if there will ever be a solution given the technology?

I have a couple of other nagging issues. Is it necessary to turn Multi-Zone ON everytime I turn on the unit? When it switch the unit off it disables Multi-Zone. I can't find a way to program a remote button to turn it on, so I'm left going to the cabinet each time.

Second, when I switch over to Airplay on Zone 2, then switch Zone 1 back to whatever it as previously doing (usually TV) then volume control on whatever AirPlay device I'm using no longer controls Zone 2 volume, it controls Zone 1 volume. Zone 2 is playing fine, separate from Zone 1, but I have no interest in controlling my inside TV volume while I'm outside listening to Zone 2.

My solution for this was to install the Pioneer App and control Zone 2 volume from there.

Unfortunately that's another workaround.
post #2153 of 2663
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Originally Posted by brj8826 View Post

I've read through most of this thread but I guess I've missed a possible solution to the AirPlay Zone 2 issue others seem to have. When I first initiate AirPlay from a device it turns on HMG and forces whatever you are watching in Zone 1 to switch. I have a Harmony One, so I simply hit Help and get Zone 1 back. I'm not seeing a solution for this, or if there will ever be a solution given the technology?

Same here ... AirPlay starts in Zone 1, haven't found a solution either.

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Originally Posted by brj8826 View Post

Is it necessary to turn Multi-Zone ON everytime I turn on the unit? When it switch the unit off it disables Multi-Zone. I can't find a way to program a remote button to turn it on, so I'm left going to the cabinet each time.

I haven't seen that problem. I use an AR AEEX15G remote. It has separate On/Off commands for Zone 2. Since I normally don't play anything in the family room while listening to Z2 on the deck, I have an action that turns on Z2, selects HMG as Z2 input, then turns off Z1. Works fine. If I want something in the family room, I just turn Z1 back on and select the appropriate input.

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Originally Posted by brj8826 View Post

Second, when I switch over to Airplay on Zone 2, then switch Zone 1 back to whatever it as previously doing (usually TV) then volume control on whatever AirPlay device I'm using no longer controls Zone 2 volume, it controls Zone 1 volume. Zone 2 is playing fine, separate from Zone 1, but I have no interest in controlling my inside TV volume while I'm outside listening to Zone 2.

My solution for this was to install the Pioneer App and control Zone 2 volume from there.

Unfortunately that's another workaround.

The master volume control does control Z1. My AR remote also has Zone 2 volume up/down controls. I don't use them since Z2 is outside, out of the line of sight for the remote. I either adjust the volume before going out or use the iPod/iPad app from the deck.

Can't help with the Harmony as I don't have one. Just know the el-cheapo AR works great with the 1021.
post #2154 of 2663
i cant make standby hdmi passthrough with this receiver..before with onkyo theres a yellow lit indicating that the receiver is in standby passthrough - with pio it just have the on and off ....any help will be greatly appreciated guys
post #2155 of 2663
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Originally Posted by Hodr View Post

My issue:

I have had my VSX-1021-K for a couple of months now. I have it connected to a 7.1 setup (2 front, 2 surround, 2 rear, 1 sub). If I connect a source via HDMI (so far my PS3 and my HTPC) and it sends the audio via a PCM format (anywhere from 2 channels to 7.1) the volume level is very low (In IcontrolAV I need to turn the volume to 4/5ths of the max for movie listening) and I hear quite a bit of noise from the speakers.

If I turn on digital streaming from the HTPC, for much of the content the volume level appears to be increased (now I can listen at a little over 1/2 the total volume level) and the noise is virtually eliminated. There are differences though from DTS to Dolby, I haven't troubleshot with enough media to determine which work best.

When playing back music or movies from your PS3, hit the triangle. In the upper row near the center is a speaker icon. That's your PS3 volume control. Make sure it is set in the middle, it will say "Normal" below the volume bar. With this set too low, it will have the problem you describe. Hope this is your solution.
post #2156 of 2663
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Originally Posted by aston_martin28 View Post

i cant make standby hdmi passthrough with this receiver..before with onkyo theres a yellow lit indicating that the receiver is in standby passthrough - with pio it just have the on and off ....any help will be greatly appreciated guys

Search this thread ... there are many posts on this subject, but very little success. If all your components are HDMI Control enabled you may have a chance.

If HDMI passthrough is a must have feature, I suggest you go back to your Onkyo.
post #2157 of 2663
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Originally Posted by aston_martin28 View Post

i cant make standby hdmi passthrough with this receiver..before with onkyo theres a yellow lit indicating that the receiver is in standby passthrough - with pio it just have the on and off ....any help will be greatly appreciated guys

Welcome to the world of Pioneer HDMI. All is great with these Pio AVRs but the HDMI standby is a no go except if you are the lucky few.
post #2158 of 2663
thank you so much for the quick reply guys... were you able to set the pio 1021 in standby mode? i tried the enter and power button but it shuts off...no power indicator for the standby...

i can ask for the replacement of the unit to onkyo 708 but im afraid theres a lot of quality issues with the onkyo 708 though its moer powerful and really good withe movies....im just a started from HT - started with the Onkyo HTIB and i love it just the music was not so good...that why i upgraded to seperate receiver and currently have wharf speaker thinking of upgrading to polk audio rti series....

i enabled the hdmi control but still no go...
i have ps3 that needs to go to standby passthrough

have anyone on you compared onkyo 708 to pio 1021?

any response will be greatly appreciated by a newbie here... thanks again guys
post #2159 of 2663
Just started reviewing the thread. I was wanting to ask if there's any way to use the hdmi control feature so that I could use my pioneer remote to control my ps3. Looks like the answer is no.

My 5 year old integra dtr 5.9 had this feature. Had I known pioneer lacked this simple ADVERTISED feature, I would have stuck with onkyo.

Also annoying. I have My lg 55lw5600 tv connected to the receiver and enabled arc on both devices. Nevertheless, my tv "forgets" it's connected to the receiver every Time I turn the system on and off. Not sure if this is an lg issue though
post #2160 of 2663
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Originally Posted by talk show host View Post

Just started reviewing the thread. I was wanting to ask if there's any way to use the hdmi control feature so that I could use my pioneer remote to control my ps3. Looks like the answer is no.

My 5 year old integra dtr 5.9 had this feature. Had I known pioneer lacked this simple ADVERTISED feature, I would have stuck with onkyo.

Also annoying. I have My lg 55lw5600 tv connected to the receiver and enabled arc on both devices. Nevertheless, my tv "forgets" it's connected to the receiver every Time I turn the system on and off. Not sure if this is an lg issue though

let me try this tomorrow if i can control my ps3 using pio 1021 remote
btw im using the remote control of pio 1121 hehehe

my question again

how to put the pio to standby mode
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