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post #2371 of 2663
It looks as if the only thing the 1022 has that the 1021 does not is support for Pandora, but since that is built into everything else these days, that wouldnt seem to be a huge improvement.

Any other reasons that I might want to consider before taking back the 1022 and grabbing a 1021?
post #2372 of 2663
Many people have had problems with the 1021's HDMI passthrough functionality. Maybe the newer generation has improved this. Other than that, the 1022 looks mostly like a downgrade to me.
post #2373 of 2663
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Originally Posted by rdclark View Post

I sure looks like the 1022 is not meant as a successor to the 1021. Its list price is $100 lower. It has less output power, a reduced number of analog inputs, and a less sophisticated version of MCACC.
Open http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Home/AV-Receivers/Pioneer+Receivers/VSX-1021-K/
and
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Home/AV-Receivers/Pioneer+Receivers/VSX-1022-K
to compare side by side.
The VSK-1122-K seems to be a truer successor to the 1021.
True that

1022 in reality equal to 921.
Pioneer again changed their numbering scheme. they do not match directly to 2011 models.
post #2374 of 2663
Yea, what happened was they removed some of the models from the lineup. And I think it was the 921? That could be wrong. Either way, they sorta just shifted everything down a notch. Kind of crummy.

That being said. You've still got a great system. I bought the 1021 about a week before the 1022 came out. They are comparable. I think there are some bells and whistles that they didn't put into the new model, but overall they are the same.

As for the app, the grass is always greener. If you go on the iTunes store and look at the comments, EVERYONE with the older app wants the new version!!! And now I guess that everyone with the new app wants the old one.

You shouldn't have buyers remorse. Just get it all hooked up, GET A SUB, and enjoy it. It's the coolest toy I have ever purchased.
post #2375 of 2663
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Originally Posted by Mike Freeman View Post

Yea, what happened was they removed some of the models from the lineup. And I think it was the 921? That could be wrong. Either way, they sorta just shifted everything down a notch. Kind of crummy.
That being said. You've still got a great system. I bought the 1021 about a week before the 1022 came out. They are comparable. I think there are some bells and whistles that they didn't put into the new model, but overall they are the same.

I don't disagree that the 1022 isn't a fine AVR for people whose needs it meets. But it's a downgrade from the 1021 in many ways. Besides its less robust power supply, the biggest downgrade is its much less sophisticated version of MCACC. That could have a clear audible effect, depending on room and speakers.
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As for the app, the grass is always greener. If you go on the iTunes store and look at the comments, EVERYONE with the older app wants the new version!!! And now I guess that everyone with the new app wants the old one.

You may be confusing iControl2012, the new version of the iControlAV app which came with the 1021, with ControlApp (which comes with the 1022), the latter being a much less feature-rich and flexible app. If you're an iPad user, iControl is a spectacular feature that adds a lot of value to the receiver; ControlApp, while still useful, lacks the interface with MCACC and the other tweaking features that make iControlAV so unique.

I would recommend to any iPad owner that they buy an 1122 in order to get iControl2012, or a 1021 or 1121 to get iControlAV. ControlApp, while useful and functional, is just a remote control. iControl adds new functionality to the receiver.
post #2376 of 2663
I've been having problems with the receiver freezing lately. It seems to only happen when I want to turn the receiver off. No video will output of the receiver. I can change inputs, but nothing will display, and soon everything will freeze up. Power button won't work, I have to unplug. I did a factory reset, and the issue still happens. I just sent Pioneer an email about it, so we'll see what happens. I can't seem to recreate the issue exactly. Happens the most using H.M.G. input listening to internet radio, but has also happened randomly with other inputs active.
post #2377 of 2663
So I made up my mind to go get the 1021, which was an open box at BB, but to my dismay I find that it was such a good deal ($199) because it had no remote or other accessories. Fortunately they had another open box on a VSX-51, which appears to be the Elite version of the 1021, with a number of additional bells and whistles. Paid $330 but still a deal I think. Came with everything but the antennas, the setup mic, and the AVNavigation CD. I was happy to find there's an app for that, and antennas are easy enough to find. If I can use my 1022 mic before returning it I will do the initial setup while waiting for the mic I order from Pioneer parts. It didn't come with a warranty registration card either but I was able to take care of that online too.

Thanks for the info. I'm excited to break in our new system and start enjoying it.
post #2378 of 2663
RD Clark,

Thanks for clarifying that. I didn't realize that the MCACC feature was downgraded as much as it was. You're right, I did confuse the app! Thanks!

-Mike
post #2379 of 2663
RD Clark,

Maybe you can help me with something. I seem to have an issue that I can't figure out how to fix. I've tried a few different things, but nothing seems to work.

I've got the VSX 1021-K model. The problem is when I'm watching almost anything. The dialog is really low, then a loud sound kicks in and blows it out. Any tips on how to fix that?
post #2380 of 2663
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Originally Posted by Mike Freeman View Post

RD Clark,
Maybe you can help me with something. I seem to have an issue that I can't figure out how to fix. I've tried a few different things, but nothing seems to work.
I've got the VSX 1021-K model. The problem is when I'm watching almost anything. The dialog is really low, then a loud sound kicks in and blows it out. Any tips on how to fix that?

Just a guess, more details on exactly what's happening would help ... If you configures a center front speaker and are watching 5.1 or better media, the dialog comes from the center speaker. The front right & left are used for background / music. If you have an intermittent connection to the center, when it connects the dialog can be very loud, especially if you turned up the column trying to hear it with the fronts. Again, just a guess, take a look at your center channel.
post #2381 of 2663
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Originally Posted by Mike Freeman View Post

RD Clark,
Maybe you can help me with something. I seem to have an issue that I can't figure out how to fix. I've tried a few different things, but nothing seems to work.
I've got the VSX 1021-K model. The problem is when I'm watching almost anything. The dialog is really low, then a loud sound kicks in and blows it out. Any tips on how to fix that?

When you use the test tones to check channel levels (manual, p65), is the center channel balanced with the others?

Is the center channel test tone coming only from the center channel speaker, not from the l/r mains?

What listening mode are you in?
post #2382 of 2663
Hello, smile.gif

I'd like to ask wether is there ANY WAY i can use two outputs at the same time? HDMI AND Component? =)

Reason is the HDMI to the HD TV and the component to a PC capture card. smile.gif


smile.gif If any one please would try it for me.



Thanks a lot!
post #2383 of 2663
^^^

no, you can't...

fwiw, nothing will take a hdmi input and send it out over component... that's a no-no...
post #2384 of 2663
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Originally Posted by ccotenj View Post

^^^
no, you can't...
fwiw, nothing will take a hdmi input and send it out over component... that's a no-no...

Oh, a double No! frown.gif


Ok, What if i used this splitter:
http://amzn.to/NIkXZV

And connected one output to the T.V. and i used this with the other HDMI output:
http://amzn.to/MDJ8tu


And yes, frown.gif it needs to be component for a stupid HDCP reasons >.<".


Is it smart enough? :P
Edited by iJihaD - 7/24/12 at 9:24am
post #2385 of 2663
^^^

add a 3rd no, sorry... the ps3 cable wont take hdmi in and convert it to component...

you need an active device to do that... google hdfury...
post #2386 of 2663
Hi Chris, will this receiver take component video in then output component monitor out and upconvert to HDMI out at the same time?
post #2387 of 2663
^^^

hey man, good to see you still hanging out in the pio threads...

good question... i don't know... my answer is "maybe"... it is possible that it will pass the analog signal straight through while it is also is doing the transcoding, etc. for the hdmi output... i wouldn't bet on it though....

someone out there could try it and let us know though... smile.gif
post #2388 of 2663
Quick question - I have an Elite vsx-50, which I believe is very similar to the vsx-1021, correct? I didn't see an elite 50 thread so I thought I would ask on this thread.

Does the Pioneer airplay on these receivers support video by airplay? In other words, can I play itunes movies and tv shows through the receiver via airplay? I appears that I can only get audio.

Thanks!
post #2389 of 2663
^^^

nope... apple has not allowed the video portion to be implemented on any avr...

you'll need an appletv to do what you want to do...
post #2390 of 2663
I'm not 100% sure what it's all on. I'll check tonight and get back with you. Thanks for the help!
post #2391 of 2663
I just installed my new 1021-k. I chose it because according the the specs, it met my requirements. One of them was pass-through support.
Alas, I found this thread and forum too late. I now understand that while the spec specifies pass-through, it does not actually work unless my other components meet some requirements.

What good it that if I have no control on the features of provider supplied satellite box?

Honestly, I am very disappointed. I opted for this model due to features it claims to support, but not really.

Dan
post #2392 of 2663
sorry to hear you fond too late. BTW, all Pioneer AVRs are like that so you may have to go with another brand to get the pass through to work with non-CEC components.
I had a fat PS3 and pas through did not work, recently got slim PS3 and it works like a charm. My sat box still does not get to pass through like yours.
post #2393 of 2663
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Freeman View Post

Yea, what happened was they removed some of the models from the lineup. And I think it was the 921? That could be wrong. Either way, they sorta just shifted everything down a notch. Kind of crummy.
That being said. You've still got a great system. I bought the 1021 about a week before the 1022 came out. They are comparable. I think there are some bells and whistles that they didn't put into the new model, but overall they are the same.
As for the app, the grass is always greener. If you go on the iTunes store and look at the comments, EVERYONE with the older app wants the new version!!! And now I guess that everyone with the new app wants the old one.
You shouldn't have buyers remorse. Just get it all hooked up, GET A SUB, and enjoy it. It's the coolest toy I have ever purchased.

Check out I-controlAV-A for android if you can. Its a lot better then the pioneer app and actually works too. I dont know if they got it for apple but you can check out app store.

Question for anyone who might know,

I got a 1021 and recently have been changing around bass management settings.
My speakers are,
polk rti12 Mains
polk csi5 center
polk monitor 50s rears

All speakers are set to large and sub is yes.

Its my understanding that this turns off bass managment and the sub only gets bass when a LFE track is playing.

Id like to 2.1 when playing stereo, but im guessing i would need to set the sub to plus every time? if so , do you know a way to clone a MCACC profile so i could switch that instead of going into home menu?

Thanks!
post #2394 of 2663
Quote:
Originally Posted by noobzorta View Post

Question for anyone who might know,

I got a 1021 and recently have been changing around bass management settings.
My speakers are,
polk rti12 Mains
polk csi5 center
polk monitor 50s rears

All speakers are set to large and sub is yes.

Its my understanding that this turns off bass managment and the sub only gets bass when a LFE track is playing.

Id like to 2.1 when playing stereo, but im guessing i would need to set the sub to plus every time? if so , do you know a way to clone a MCACC profile so i could switch that instead of going into home menu?

Thanks!
You can copy a MCACC profile, it 's under management. When I listen to stereo, I go into the menu and change my speaker size to small.
post #2395 of 2663
It was great help in resolving my issue. Especially when there are no instructions on the manual and even on Youtube.
post #2396 of 2663
Anyone have issues using HDMI over Cat 5e? I think It's causing my receiver to freeze up occasionally.
post #2397 of 2663
I am trying to use my vsx-1021 with one of these powerstrips: http://catalog.bitsltd.us/catalog/SMART/LEG.html
The specs of the strip say that I should plug it into the the receiver's control jack. Upon turning on the receiver,
a 12V signal is sent through the jack to the power strip, enabling all of the switched plugs.

I tried and it didn't work, so I am wondering what kind of signal is sent out of the control jack (I am referring to
the control jack in the back, left side, above the IR jacks), if it is indeed a 12V one or not. If not, is there any other
way to generate a 12V trigger out of the vsx1021?

Thanks!
Alex
post #2398 of 2663
There's no 12V trigger on the 1121. If it had a switched AC outlet you could, in theory, use a 12V wall wart as a trigger, but alas, no AC outlet either.

I don't see why you can't just plug your 1021 into the Control outlet of the strip. When the strip senses the 1021 has gone into standby, it will shut down other outlets according to the way you've set up the strip. And vice-versa.
post #2399 of 2663
Thank you for the info. Indeed, I will plug the VSX-1021 in the control plug. Since the power strip had the 12V trigger, I was trying to use it. I guess I won't need it.
post #2400 of 2663
Hi all,

Just joined because I am pulling my hair out with my receiver.

Somehow...someway my daughters have the remote set for zone 2. Meaning that if you push the "on/off" button on the remote...it simply turns on (or off) zone 2...it doesn't power off the receiver. I need to manually push the button on the front of the reciever to power it on/off.

I am looking through my manual and for the life of me I can not figure out how to fix this. Can you all throw some advice my way. This is driving me nuts.

Thanks
Dave
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