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post #241 of 2586
5/2/11 at 1:06pm
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Originally Posted by ChicagoSteve View Post
You're not alone; I'm experiencing the same thing with AirPlay. I just got my 1021 and haven't gone through the full setup yet (waiting for my sub to arrive), but couldn't wait to try to stream from my iPhone. Once the music stops playing, I can change the speaker to my iPhone then back to the 1021 and it reconnects to the network and plays through my AVR, but that's not an acceptable solution. I'm hoping I just have a setting wrong somewhere. Just wanted you to know you're not the only one experiencing this. More later once I do a full setup and some troubleshooting.
EXACTLY... me too... change airplay to phone and then back to AVR and music continues.... but that is worthless. Like I said, I have tried wirelessly with airport express and directly connected with eithernet to router (airport) and two different phones.

I just got off the phone with Pioneer..... DUDE WAS THE BIGGEST PRICK I HAVE EVER TALKED TOO.

I told him that other people have this problem on a blog... he said... 'so what's your point.... where are you going with that'. LOL... can you believe that crap?

The only worthwhile thing he said was that there is nothing to do with the 'settings of the unit... it should work'. He said... "I got a problem". No Sh@t! Thanks. So.... don't rack your head against the wall trying to figure it out.... its a bad reciever. I'm returning this hunk. People.... always buy stuff from Best buy or a box store so you can return within 30 days.
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post #242 of 2586
5/2/11 at 1:17pm
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EXACTLY... me too... change airplay to phone and then back to AVR and music continues.... but that is worthless. Like I said, I have tried wirelessly with airport express and directly connected with eithernet to router (airport) and two different phones.

I just got off the phone with Pioneer..... DUDE WAS THE BIGGEST PRICK I HAVE EVER TALKED TOO.

I told him that other people have this problem on a blog... he said... 'so what's your point.... where are you going with that'. LOL... can you believe that crap?

The only worthwhile thing he said was that there is nothing to do with the 'settings of the unit... it should work'. He said... "I got a problem". No Sh@t! Thanks. So.... don't rack your head against the wall trying to figure it out.... its a bad reciever. I'm returning this hunk. People.... always buy stuff from Best buy or a box store so you can return within 30 days.
That is disappointing to here. Try another unit. There do seem to be a bad batch based upon solely the number of folks posting issues.

Mine thankfully has run perfectly.
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post #243 of 2586
5/2/11 at 7:26pm
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Originally Posted by Tigervision View Post

How the heck do you hook up a direct tv box to this thing??? I have the HDMI from directtv to HDMI 1... and it works... but it is a total pain and I have to scroll through HDMI button everytime to get to it... there has to be an easier way since I will be using the tv 90% of the time.

Either of these solutions will work:
1) Connect the Direct TV box to the DVR input instead of the HDMI 1 input. Then you can use the DVR button on the remote to go directly to your Direct TV source instead of cycling through all the HDMI inputs with the HDMI button.
2) Assign the HDMI 1 input to the TV/SAT input. Then you can use the TV/SAT button to go directly to your Direct TV source. To assign HDMI 1 to TV/SAT, first you'll need to turn Control with HDMI off (see below). Then go to menu 4b.Input Setup and set the HDMI input for the TV/SAT source to HDMI 1.


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Originally Posted by Tigervision View Post

Also, when in setup, the HDMI inputs are all greyed out on all components???

When the "Control with HDMI" feature is ON, HDMI input assignments cannot be made (p. 26). You can turn Control with HDMI to OFF under menu 4e.HDMI Setup.
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post #244 of 2586
5/2/11 at 10:37pm
Folks:
Any body been able to get HDMI Pass-Through to work successfully? I can't seem to get it to work on my 1021 & Panasonic Plasma combination.
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post #245 of 2586
5/3/11 at 5:03am
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Originally Posted by bullman1785 View Post

Folks:
Any body been able to get HDMI Pass-Through to work successfully? I can't seem to get it to work on my 1021 & Panasonic Plasma combination.

Make sure hdmi control is turned on for tv, source, and receiver. read the manual on this section.
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post #246 of 2586
5/3/11 at 6:07am
Out of everyone who has posted with their problems here, how many have the 'o' next to their serial number on the box? Just wondering. I do not but I also haven't set it up yet.
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post #247 of 2586
5/3/11 at 7:25am
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Originally Posted by hmunster2 View Post

I have some specific questions regarding this receiver and its operation in zone 2. I am only interested in having the same source signal for both main and zone 2.
1) will it send a digital signal to zone 2?

2) if using ipad2 and listening to Pandora, will the Airplay received signal be distributed to zone2 (since it is digital).

3) Does this receiver receive internet radio stations-also, if so, how can you navigate them?

I am on the fence between this receiver and the new Denon 3312 CI (much more $), but from the Denon manual states it will pass a digital signal to
zone 2.

I tried to use a new apple tv to stream audio from ipad2 and if you used the pad to surf, the audio would constantly dropout-hope that won't happen with these receivers.

It will send Airplay to Zone 2, BUT NOT DIGITAL, meaning not sound from HDMI, optical, or coax sources. It will send data it receives via airplay over the network.
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post #248 of 2586
5/3/11 at 7:32am
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Originally Posted by winston9332 View Post

Make sure hdmi control is turned on for tv, source, and receiver. read the manual on this section.

Thanks Winston9332. I'll give that a try and post results here.
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post #249 of 2586
5/3/11 at 7:33am
My box did not have an "o" on it - but had the latest firmware. I had ordered it off of Amazon last Wednesday (April 27 and was delivered on Friday April 29).
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post #250 of 2586
5/3/11 at 7:48am
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Originally Posted by Dglaser6 View Post

Out of everyone who has posted with their problems here, how many have the 'o' next to their serial number on the box? Just wondering. I do not but I also haven't set it up yet.

I have the "O"
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post #251 of 2586
5/3/11 at 7:52am
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Originally Posted by Digityman View Post

WD MyBookLive 2T NAS
Motorola Surfboard SB5101U
D-Link DIR-655
VSX-1021-k
Ipad App
Iphone 4 app
Rocketfish 6 pair selector RF-SSVC6
4 ceiling speakers
2 outdoor speakers
AppleTV 2

I ran a Cat5 from the AVR to the router.
The NAS is connected to the router with Cat5 also.

I'm currently not using it for any video. I use it to control my whole house audio. When I built the cabin, I ran a speaker to each downstairs room (ceiling) and 2 to the porch. All the wires come into a media 'closet'. 2 more speakers are going out in my new garden area eventually. The Rocketfish controls the output (so I can turn on and off speakers so I don't wake the kid) and the Ipad/iphone apps controls the music when sitting at the fire in the garden area. Eventually this will be in my main setup but I'm still in the beginings of making my theater watching area.

I like it so far. Going to finish the setup tonight. I did notice that I couldn't get it to see my iTunes. For some reason it went straight to Windows Media Center files (not good as I use iTunes). I'm saw a post about going to iTunes preferences and allowing sharing on the local network. Going to try that tonight. I was able to play internet radio and connect to my NAS through HMG which has all my media on it anyway.

The app is cool but I think that when you are selecting your music, that area should be a bit bigger. I have 30+ gigs of music which is a lot of scrolling in that small area.

I wasn't able to get airplay to work yet but I'm thinking that has something to do with ^^^^^^

We'll see tonight.

Update - 5/2 -
The receiver seems to be messing up my airplay somehow. Apple TV is wireless and the AVR is wired. Apple TV can stream from the PC without the Receiver connected. Once connect, I can't stream from the PC to Apple TV. I originally thought it was the NAS that was causing the problem but I disconnected that and still had the same problem. Tonight I'm going to run a network cable to the Apple TV to see if that solves the problem.
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post #252 of 2586
5/3/11 at 10:22am
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Originally Posted by Dglaser6 View Post

Out of everyone who has posted with their problems here, how many have the 'o' next to their serial number on the box? Just wondering. I do not but I also haven't set it up yet.

Purchased from BB in Detroit suburb on 4/21/11 WITH O.
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post #253 of 2586
5/3/11 at 11:52am
Hi Folks

I just received my Pioneer 1021-K from Amazon two weeks back and am still struggling to find time to set it up - its taking a loooong time and I think I can say from a newbie perspective that the UI on this receiver is sub-standard.

Trying to get airplay to work but I have a basic question - maybe too dumb but hoping its my mistake, and the receiver is fine..

I connected the receiver to a netgear wnce2001 wireless lan adapter (works fine, its on the network with a dhcp assigned IP address etc) - but when I press H.M.G - it says "server error" - ok so it can't see a media server on the network.
but my itunes on my pc (10.2.1.1) cannot see the receiver and I can't see an airplay icon either. In fact I can get my ipad to see my itunes library (since my itunes on windows PC can see my ipad as an external speaker) but it cannot see the receiver????
So my question is (sorry this may be dumb) but do I need an airport express/apple tv or something else to get the airplay to work???
How is it that folks here are so easily able to get airplay to work, and I am having such a difficult time with getting my receiver to see my itunes library.

This (airplay) was the "only" reason I bought the Pioneer (otherwise would have gone with Denon or a basic receiver without DLNA/wireless lan set up, because at least that way, I wouldn't be compromising sound quality, audio performance and better UI for the features vs price)

Seems like its wiser to go with a regular receiver like Denon and then buy a sonos reciever and a roku etc to manage audio and video distribution .. having second thoughts at my pioneer/money saving decision.. wondering if people had any thoughts on this forum - should I still stick with this Pioneer thing?
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post #254 of 2586
5/3/11 at 12:25pm
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Originally Posted by rekhapai View Post

Hi Folks

I just received my Pioneer 1021-K from Amazon two weeks back and am still struggling to find time to set it up - its taking a loooong time and I think I can say from a newbie perspective that the UI on this receiver is sub-standard.

Trying to get airplay to work but I have a basic question - maybe too dumb but hoping its my mistake, and the receiver is fine..

I connected the receiver to a netgear wnce2001 wireless lan adapter (works fine, its on the network with a dhcp assigned IP address etc) - but when I press H.M.G - it says "server error" - ok so it can't see a media server on the network.
but my itunes on my pc (10.2.1.1) cannot see the receiver and I can't see an airplay icon either. In fact I can get my ipad to see my itunes library (since my itunes on windows PC can see my ipad as an external speaker) but it cannot see the receiver????
So my question is (sorry this may be dumb) but do I need an airport express/apple tv or something else to get the airplay to work???
How is it that folks here are so easily able to get airplay to work, and I am having such a difficult time with getting my receiver to see my itunes library.

This (airplay) was the "only" reason I bought the Pioneer (otherwise would have gone with Denon or a basic receiver without DLNA/wireless lan set up, because at least that way, I wouldn't be compromising sound quality, audio performance and better UI for the features vs price)

Seems like its wiser to go with a regular receiver like Denon and then buy a sonos reciever and a roku etc to manage audio and video distribution .. having second thoughts at my pioneer/money saving decision.. wondering if people had any thoughts on this forum - should I still stick with this Pioneer thing?

You do not need an airport express or apple tv to get airplay to work. The 1021 is capable of directly streaming audio files from your computer via airplay in your itunes.

mine worked immediately, but I had mine hardwired to my network (no adapter to Pioneer). It's been my experience that adding wireless adapters can often cause more headaches than they resolve.
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post #255 of 2586
5/3/11 at 12:34pm
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Originally Posted by rekhapai View Post

Hi Folks

I just received my Pioneer 1021-K from Amazon two weeks back and am still struggling to find time to set it up - its taking a loooong time and I think I can say from a newbie perspective that the UI on this receiver is sub-standard.

Trying to get airplay to work but I have a basic question - maybe too dumb but hoping its my mistake, and the receiver is fine..

I connected the receiver to a netgear wnce2001 wireless lan adapter (works fine, its on the network with a dhcp assigned IP address etc) - but when I press H.M.G - it says "server error" - ok so it can't see a media server on the network.
but my itunes on my pc (10.2.1.1) cannot see the receiver and I can't see an airplay icon either. In fact I can get my ipad to see my itunes library (since my itunes on windows PC can see my ipad as an external speaker) but it cannot see the receiver????
So my question is (sorry this may be dumb) but do I need an airport express/apple tv or something else to get the airplay to work???
How is it that folks here are so easily able to get airplay to work, and I am having such a difficult time with getting my receiver to see my itunes library.

This (airplay) was the "only" reason I bought the Pioneer (otherwise would have gone with Denon or a basic receiver without DLNA/wireless lan set up, because at least that way, I wouldn't be compromising sound quality, audio performance and better UI for the features vs price)

Seems like its wiser to go with a regular receiver like Denon and then buy a sonos reciever and a roku etc to manage audio and video distribution .. having second thoughts at my pioneer/money saving decision.. wondering if people had any thoughts on this forum - should I still stick with this Pioneer thing?

looking at your ip address for your pc... are you sure the avr is on the same subnet?
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post #256 of 2586
5/3/11 at 12:59pm
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Originally Posted by ChicagoSteve View Post

Purchased from BB in Detroit suburb on 4/21/11 WITH O.

Purchased from Best Buy in North Carolina on April 30th with the "O". It was the only one in stock.
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post #257 of 2586
5/3/11 at 1:41pm
Yeah - @Winston - thanks for that suggestion, except that is unfortunately an option for me as the receiver is in my family room, and the networking equipment is in a closet in the other end of the house, and the house is old (no CAT5 wiring) - so either powerline or
netgear (and as per a previous comment on this forum, powerline was giving problems so the recommendation was the netgear, which I then ordered from amazon after reading the posts )

Anyways @Chris will also check the IP subnet and mask but will not know how to change it if its different - I have a netgear wnd3700 dual band gigabit router for the wireless lan in the house - set up 2 networks (guest LAN without a password, and another more secure one with a password)

Will check the subnet and make sure the ip addresses for both my pc (with itunes) and the receiver are on the same subnet
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post #258 of 2586
5/3/11 at 1:56pm
^^^

yea, cuz it sounds like to me that they are on two different networks or subnets, and one can't see the other...

the physical connection (wired/wireless/powerline) shouldn't matter*... ime, a lot of those issues have been the result of errors between the keyboard and the chair...

* although it would be my STRONG preference to do firmware updates with a wired connection...
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post #259 of 2586
5/3/11 at 3:48pm
Hi,
Looking for a new receiver and this is on the short list.
Pioneer's spec sheet says auto crossover for the sub and I was wondering if it had a manual setting so that you set the crossover at what ever frequency you like?
Also, does it have updateable firmware via the internet ?
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post #260 of 2586
5/3/11 at 5:47pm
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Originally Posted by DougReim View Post

Hi,
Looking for a new receiver and this is on the short list.
Pioneer's spec sheet says auto crossover for the sub and I was wondering if it had a manual setting so that you set the crossover at what ever frequency you like?
Also, does it have updateable firmware via the internet ?

all questions are answered in the manual. crossover settings are global and have about six or seven choices from memory. read the manual. firmware is updateable. also mentioned in the manual.
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post #261 of 2586
5/3/11 at 6:50pm
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Originally Posted by rekhapai View Post

...but my itunes on my pc (10.2.1.1) cannot see the receiver and I can't see an airplay icon either. In fact I can get my ipad to see my itunes library (since my itunes on windows PC can see my ipad as an external speaker) but it cannot see the receiver????
So my question is (sorry this may be dumb) but do I need an airport express/apple tv or something else to get the airplay to work???
How is it that folks here are so easily able to get airplay to work, and I am having such a difficult time with getting my receiver to see my itunes library.

Have you done this? It's from the first page of this thread.
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Originally Posted by ubigby View Post

...Once you have powered the receiver on you have to take it out of demo mode which is about the only thing explained in the manual. You then must put it on HMG mode. Once youve done that open up itunes and open up preferences. click on the sharing tab and check the box for share my library on my local network. Once youve done that you should see a little box with a triangle at the bottom of it in the bottom right border of your itunes. Click on it and you should be able to select your receiver. I hope this helps.

Also, someone else posted that there is a separate loose piece of paper in the retail box with information about using AirPlay -- It's not in the manual.
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post #262 of 2586
5/3/11 at 10:32pm
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Originally Posted by bullman1785 View Post

Thanks Winston9332. I'll give that a try and post results here.

Followed the instructions in the manual. But unable to get it to work. Just so that I understand the concept of HDMI Pass-Through , here is my expectation:

1. TV is turned on
2. Set top box (e.g., DirecTV or Cable box) is turned on
3. Receiver is in standby mode

In the above scenario, I should be able to watch the video signal on my TV and listen to the audio via my TV speakers. Is my understanding correct?

Thanks!
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post #263 of 2586
5/4/11 at 5:30am
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Originally Posted by bullman1785 View Post

Followed the instructions in the manual. But unable to get it to work. Just so that I understand the concept of HDMI Pass-Through , here is my expectation:

1. TV is turned on
2. Set top box (e.g., DirecTV or Cable box) is turned on
3. Receiver is in standby mode

In the above scenario, I should be able to watch the video signal on my TV and listen to the audio via my TV speakers. Is my understanding correct?

Thanks!

Correct. Generally the "benefits" of not using your receiver are also negated by higher standby power consumption and dealing with more and more hdmi gremlins.

In my opinion, buying a receiver for its ability not to amplify is inane. Like buying a ferrari that can coast well.
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post #264 of 2586
5/4/11 at 8:03am
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Originally Posted by rekhapai View Post

Hi Folks

I just received my Pioneer 1021-K from Amazon two weeks back and am still struggling to find time to set it up - its taking a loooong time and I think I can say from a newbie perspective that the UI on this receiver is sub-standard.

Trying to get airplay to work but I have a basic question - maybe too dumb but hoping its my mistake, and the receiver is fine..

I connected the receiver to a netgear wnce2001 wireless lan adapter (works fine, its on the network with a dhcp assigned IP address etc) - but when I press H.M.G - it says "server error" - ok so it can't see a media server on the network.
but my itunes on my pc (10.2.1.1) cannot see the receiver and I can't see an airplay icon either. In fact I can get my ipad to see my itunes library (since my itunes on windows PC can see my ipad as an external speaker) but it cannot see the receiver????
So my question is (sorry this may be dumb) but do I need an airport express/apple tv or something else to get the airplay to work???
How is it that folks here are so easily able to get airplay to work, and I am having such a difficult time with getting my receiver to see my itunes library.

This (airplay) was the "only" reason I bought the Pioneer (otherwise would have gone with Denon or a basic receiver without DLNA/wireless lan set up, because at least that way, I wouldn't be compromising sound quality, audio performance and better UI for the features vs price)

Seems like its wiser to go with a regular receiver like Denon and then buy a sonos reciever and a roku etc to manage audio and video distribution .. having second thoughts at my pioneer/money saving decision.. wondering if people had any thoughts on this forum - should I still stick with this Pioneer thing?

I'm having the same problem. I have appleTV and every time I plug in my AVR to the router it kills my airplay in itunes. I've already eliminated my NAS and a few other network things just to see if they were causing the problems. I've got my AppleTV and AVR wired (not wirless). Still causing problems. Can't airplay to the AVR. Going to double check my subnet tonight and then if that fails it's going back to best buy.

Seems like a lot of problems for this AVR. Might have to wait until all the kinks are worked out.
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post #265 of 2586
5/4/11 at 8:18am
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Originally Posted by winston9332 View Post

Correct. Generally the "benefits" of not using your receiver are also negated by higher standby power consumption and dealing with more and more hdmi gremlins.

In my opinion, buying a receiver for its ability not to amplify is inane. Like buying a ferrari that can coast well.

LOL! Good point. There are some remote and minor use cases where I can see this as a useful feature. But the time I have invested in trying to get it to work is ridiculous.

Re-directing that time to setting up my Harmony One to do exactly what I want!
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post #266 of 2586
5/4/11 at 11:41am
Just curious, have you actually done this, and it works?
Sorry, this is in response to NYTrojan, about Airplay distribution to Zone 2 speakers.
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post #267 of 2586
5/5/11 at 7:54am
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Originally Posted by staabd1 View Post

I bought a VSX 1021-k from Amazon on April 2nd, received it the following week, set it up with no issues and enjoyed it for about two weeks. I really love all the features especially AirPlay and iControlAV2. However, on Friday, I went to turn on the system and got no audio or video from Zone1. (Zone 2 still worked, however). Checked everything. Couldn't get into the menu to even check settings. Sending back to Amazon. I called around and found they had some in stock locally at BestBuy. Bought one (plus tax) and immediately had issues with that one as well...MCACC gave microphone error; No video again and even playing a simple CD through the analog input rendered no sound. Grrr! Returned that one and exchanged for Best Buy's final one. Third time's a charm...right? Nope. On this one, the audio worked initially but still no video and got the dreaded microphone error when running the MCACC setup again. Even tried two microphones, different high-speed HDMI cables, various speaker hookups but alas, no go. So I returned that one as well to BestBuy and will await the replacement unit from Amazon. I really just want one that works as there's nothing else that matches the features for the price! I hope it's just a bad batch.

As a follow-up, I received my replacement VSX 1021-k from Amazon a week ago. According to the bar-code on the box, it supposedly had the latest firmware. I hooked it up (this was my fourth receiver, remember). Again, no video. Zone1 would work intermittently and the controls would just lock up. Grrr. I would have to reset the unit by unplugging from the wall. That's it! I've had it with this unit. Sent it back for refund this time and bought a Denon AVR-1912 through Amazon. Pretty much the same features and setup was waaay easier. So far everything works...video, both zones, AirPlay, etc. I hope I didn't just jinx myself.
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post #268 of 2586
5/5/11 at 8:12am
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Originally Posted by staabd1 View Post

As a follow-up, I received my replacement VSX 1021-k from Amazon a week ago. According to the bar-code on the box, it supposedly had the latest firmware. I hooked it up (this was my fourth receiver, remember). Again, no video. Zone1 would work intermittently and the controls would just lock up. Grrr. I would have to reset the unit by unplugging from the wall. That's it! I've had it with this unit. Sent it back for refund this time and bought a Denon AVR-1912 through Amazon. Pretty much the same features and setup was waaay easier. So far everything works...video, both zones, AirPlay, etc. I hope I didn't just jinx myself.

staabd1, sounds like you have either really bad luck or another gremlin in your setup. I have not read all your posts and do not have time to, but just out of curiosity, please post your setup with connections. please also post what receiver the 1021 replaced.
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post #269 of 2586
5/5/11 at 8:31am
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Originally Posted by Digityman View Post

I'm having the same problem. I have appleTV and every time I plug in my AVR to the router it kills my airplay in itunes. I've already eliminated my NAS and a few other network things just to see if they were causing the problems. I've got my AppleTV and AVR wired (not wirless). Still causing problems. Can't airplay to the AVR. Going to double check my subnet tonight and then if that fails it's going back to best buy.

Seems like a lot of problems for this AVR. Might have to wait until all the kinks are worked out.

I was finally able to get everything connected and working. If anybody is having problems with getting the AVR to show up with Airplay let me know.
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post #270 of 2586
5/5/11 at 8:32am
Are you able to turn the receiver on/off with either the app or when music is sent to it over airplay/network?
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