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post #571 of 2663
Quote:
Originally Posted by ZXSpeccy View Post

Hey,

Thanks for the reply, however I'm not sure that's exactly what it means as PLIIz is not virtual? It's a physical speaker channel (height).

Dolbys website states it PLIIz turns 7.1 content in to 9.1 by using a standard 7.1 encoded movie and your physical 7.1 speakers and then ADDING another "physical" set of height sepeakers (not virtual) and decoding back ground effects such as rain to those height channels.

Source:
http://www.dolby.com/consumer/unders...z-details.html

It does however also state that there is also a limited PLIIz which turns 5.1 into 7.1 by adding height spekaers and sacrificing rear surrounds and therefore adding physical height speakers instead... Therefore having a 5.1 + height = 7.1 height.

So basically PLIIz comes in 2 flavours

9.1 (physical speakers which include:
WL/L/C/R/WR/SR/RR/RL/SL + 2x height + sub

Or the more limited 7.1 PLIIz which includes:
L/C/R/SR/SL + sub + 2x height = 7.1 height

So what infact this amp should state is that both the 1021 and the 921 etc all only do limited PLIIz 7.1 height and not the fancy 9.1 PLIIz.

What's intriguing though is someone in here just posted they have a 9.1 setup? How is that then possible?

And means I'm gonna end up returning mine as this is the 4th caveat in the documentation that is very dubious indeed...


OK, my mistake, didn't know what PLIIz does. However, with the 921/1021 it's only possible to have a 5.1 + front height setup (7.1) if you want to use PLIIz. It's not possible to have 7.1 + front height speakers (9.1).
post #572 of 2663
Im not having any luck with hdmi pass through and about to give up on it and just use the amp every time I use the tv. My question is how much electricity does the amp use if I have the volume half way using a 5.1 system. Is it similar to leaving four 55 watt light bulbs on while I watch tv?
post #573 of 2663
^^^

no... not even close...
post #574 of 2663
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Originally Posted by ccotenj View Post

^^^

no... not even close...

Great answer, can anyone else be a little more specific? Thanks
post #575 of 2663
you asked...

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Originally Posted by ace1281 View Post

Is it similar to leaving four 55 watt light bulbs on while I watch tv?

you did not ask for a specific wattage usage...

good luck.
post #576 of 2663
AIRPLAY - Issue - Question

Main Configuration
DSLMOdem -> switch Hub -> wireless Router

Computer and Ipod run off wireless router.
Reciever runs off Switch Hub.

Ipod can control the receiver just fine.

But I can not get airplay to find the receiver. If I move the receiver to the wireless router then it will be found by airplay.

The receiver gets Ip Address of 192.168.2.11 if on switch hub, and 192.168.2.12 if on the wireless router.

So, is this an airplay limitation or perhaps a forwarding/configuration issue on the wireless router?

Can you manually configure airplay to look at an address for a device?
post #577 of 2663
This probably a stupid question-

Is it possible to use the bluetooth adapter with bluetooth headphones?

I'm trying to figure out a way to listen to specific sources from my 1021 with some kind of wireless headphones. I want to be able to watch a movie or play a game without waking up my newborn.

Does anyone know if there is any kind of digital audio monitor out on the 1021? I can't seem to find anything.

Any and all help is much appreciated!
post #578 of 2663
@meledward...

is it a "switch" or a "hub"?
post #579 of 2663
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Originally Posted by fiffer1 View Post

I have an unusual problem that I can't figure out. I've set up the receiver and everything sounds great, but every 2-3 minutes the volume automatically decreases 3-4 decibels. It continues until the volume is all the way down if I don't manually turn it up afterward. It happens on every input and listening mode (I have 4 hdmi inputs, no analog so I haven't tried those). I even pulled the batteries from the remote to make sure it wasn't a bad remote sending a signal. I can't imagine this is a setting anywhere, and I'm thinking the unit is defective. Has anyone experienced this?

Quote:
Originally Posted by halogen25 View Post

Hi All,

I just purchased the VSX-1021-k off eBay, and I am very excited about using it. However I just noticed a disturbing problem that I hope is only a bad setting. The unit seems to turn the volume down, little by little, every two minutes or so. If I leave the room for an hour with it set at -30 dB, it will be all the way down to -58 dB (can't even hear anything) when I return.

I have covered up the face to avoid sunlight and other possible IR problems, but it doesn't go away. Very strange...

M



Quote:
Originally Posted by halogen25 View Post

Actually one other person mentioned it (post #410 by fiffer1), but no solutions were followed up...

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Originally Posted by geotivo View Post

Make that now a third person.

Also, if this helps, Mute won't hold either.

Anyone have a cause/solution?



FOLLOW UP: Okay, after several Pioneer Techs couldn't figure it out other than "must be a bad unit," found a local service shop that thought he knew the issue. According to him there are actually a two motors inside the unit (mechanical rather than electrical controls???) that affect volume and mute, that would explain the volume turning itself down.

From what he said these motor are prone to die (I imagine anything with moving parts has a higher probability to fail vs ICs.), and they are in a fairly difficult area to get at to service them. As such his recommendation was to not go with Pioneer due to the higher cost of ownership. [Unit was just a few days old.]

I offer this as unverified, second-hand info, and leave it to the reader to take this as they will.

But the "solution" to this problem in this case was to return the unit and get another brand.



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FWIW: Found one other case of the same problem that wasn't on this board: http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=141991
post #580 of 2663
I love all the features and the price I can get this Receiver for, but I see it lacking wifi. There is no way for my to get an ethernet cable to the location that I would like to place this receiver. Is there a unit with the same features that can work via wifi?
post #581 of 2663
^^^

you can use a wireless bridge or adaptor....
post #582 of 2663
Thanks for the quick reply!

I would prefer to find an all in one unit rather than having to add external accessories. Does Pioneer have a receiver with these same features and wi fi?
post #583 of 2663
^^^

dunno... don't think so...

it's just another thing to break...
post #584 of 2663
Quote:
Originally Posted by dankwonka View Post

This probably a stupid question-

Is it possible to use the bluetooth adapter with bluetooth headphones?

I'm trying to figure out a way to listen to specific sources from my 1021 with some kind of wireless headphones. I want to be able to watch a movie or play a game without waking up my newborn.

Does anyone know if there is any kind of digital audio monitor out on the 1021? I can't seem to find anything.

Any and all help is much appreciated!



Bump.
post #585 of 2663
^^^

no and no...
post #586 of 2663
Quote:
Originally Posted by ccotenj View Post

^^^

dunno... don't think so...

it's just another thing to break...

There is always something else that could break, but that does not mean one would not want features in a device or anything else for that matter. I do like this receiver but I do not want to have a third party wifi bridge having to be attached to it to make it work for me. I prefer it and would gladly pay a bit more for it if it had the wi fi built in.

I just went thru the Pioneer web site and it does not look like they make such a device.
post #587 of 2663
^^^

suit yourself...
post #588 of 2663
I didn't see it mentioned - but I could have missed it. I bought one of these from Amazon a couple weeks back. If you're considering one, check their price.
post #589 of 2663
From my previous post a week ago, found out how to add a B speaker.
It is in the setup and speaker. There you have to choose what kind of speaker arangement you want. One of them is Speaker B.

Now I can have 5.1 in main room and 2.0 out in second room.

Now I can not seem to find the dialog is. To many buried functions.
I find that I use my remote from my vsx 816 to control my vsx 1021 for some functions. But it would be nice if the manual was more user friendly.
post #590 of 2663
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Originally Posted by pdx-642 View Post

the other thing how do I get my mac mini (2011) to play music on all speakers from a podcast or a normal mp3? I did the setup on audio midi to a 5.1 but no luck. only the r-l front work except when playing HD movies through Plex!! the other Bose receiver played music on all speakers with no problem.

Also how to play the iPod on all 5 speakers and the subwoofer?

Thanks in advance

Can someone answer this for me too, how do you get music out of all speakers?
post #591 of 2663
I am trying to get this setup, someone mentioned it is possible but I just can't get this to work.
This is what I setup:

System Setup -> Manual SP -> Speaker system -> Speaker B:
With this I get
a) No volume control capability (i.e. mute)
b) 7.1 speakers working. However, back surround plays what is playing in zone2. Switch off zone1 and back to speakers still work. Change zone2 source and 5.1 speakers playing zone1 source, other 2 rear speakers play something else. No good.

System Setup -> Manual SP -> Speaker system -> Zone 2:
a) Volume control capability (i.e. mute)
b) 5.1 Speakers working
c) Zone 2 does not play in zone 1(obvious as the two rear speakers are disabled).

Does anyone have a way around this?

I want to be able to have 7.1 in zone1, control the volume in both zones independently and not have zone 2 'bleed' into zone1 via the rear speakers in zone1.

Thanks!!
post #592 of 2663
My opinion is that you can only have 7.1 OR 5.1 plus zone 2 OR 5.1 plus speaker B.

Depending on your rear connections, the zone 2 needs to be in the zone 2 connections, OR for speaker B the speaker B connections.
The stereo for either B or Zone 2 comes from the 7.1.

Keep re-reading the manual for speaker configurations.
Then follow up in the set-up.
post #593 of 2663
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Originally Posted by stewp97 View Post

I have Sound Check turned on on all my iDevices (iPod, iPhone, iPad) but it doesn't seem to work on the receiver. I have tried both AirPlay and usb. Does it work for anyone else? It's very annoying to have to change the volume for each song. Also, when using iControl I can not use the standard remote (or my Harmony) to change the volume. As soon as I use it the receiver bounces the volume way back.

Thanks for the help!

peter

So does Airplay stay at a consistent volume for everyone else? Mine can go from barely audible on one song to very loud on the next. It never happened on the dock of my old receiver or the miscellaneous other devices I listen to my music on. I'm wondering if I have a bum unit?

Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. I only have a few days left to return the unit to the store for either a replacement or different receiver.

Thanks, peter
post #594 of 2663
Howdy everybody.
so I've had my VSX-1021 for quite some time now, and up to now no problems, but now I'm having airplay problems. When I start and run airplay, the receiver switches to HMS mode and displays the main airplay screen. This is the one where it shows a picture of the CD Cover, time played, etc.

After about 5-10 minutes this stops and the receiver switches to the HMS top menu. Music stops playing.

The PC Streaming the music is still going strong, it is still playing music and thinks it is still sending data to the receiver. The only thing I can think of that's changed recently is I changed from time warner cable to DirecTV (which does run some whole home DVR that connects to the same network that the receiver is on. Could this have anything to do with anything? What should I do to prevent this from killing my music playback?
post #595 of 2663
Quote:
Originally Posted by aliasau View Post

i swapped my 1021 for a new one due to the Airplay not working. New one set up Airplay worked, for about 15 mins, then has disappeared as selectable advice again. Airplay works fine on Apple TV. Reading that some suggest it might be the network, can anyone suggest some troubleshooting. I've already done the following:

1. checked AVR on network
2. pinged AVR
3. changed LAN connection from switch to direct from router
4. changed LAN cables
5. changed ports
6. reset to factory settings

TIA

Not sure if this has been answered yet or not, but try resetting your router. I find dropout issues with any new AirPlay devices as I initially add them are resolved with a router restart. I'm using a Netgear router with Dd-WRT.
post #596 of 2663
I bough a VSX 1021-k a few days ago, problem I am getting is that unless i have +12 gain on each speaker I have to crank the volume to -30db to hear anything from the speakers is that normal?
post #597 of 2663
Quote:
Originally Posted by sobig View Post

I bough a VSX 1021-k a few days ago, problem I am getting is that unless i have +12 gain on each speaker I have to crank the volume to -30db to hear anything from the speakers is that normal?

Did you run the MCACC speaker set up? Sounds like each speaker volume is set low. The MCACC should adjust it for you automatically if you run the setup.

You can also adjust the channel level manually with the remote control but use the auto function and then fine tune with the help of the remote.

To set channel level manually, Press the receiver button on your remote to activate the buttons that you will be using. Then look at the 3rd button from the left side bottom on the remote. It says CH LEVEL above it. Press it numerous times until you get to the speaker you want to adjust. Use + / - to adjust
post #598 of 2663
Thinking of buying this unit. I have a 10 year old Pioneer Elite tv with Component in (1080i).

Will this receiver (VSX-1021) allow my HDMI 1080p sources to be output via component to the TV?

I'm asking because i am now returning an ONKYO NR609 which does not. On this Onkyo, only component sources can be output via component. Seems crazy to me and want to confirm the Pioneer does what i need it to.


Thanks.
post #599 of 2663
I have an HD cable box (Cox) that uses the input hdmi 1 on the receiver. Everything works well... sound and video. My question is what if I just want to watch tv w/o turning on the receiver? I get no sound or picture. Would I have to run an extra cable from the cable box to my tv?

Thanks!

setup:
lcd tv hdmi
cable box hdmi
bluray hdmi
1021 reciever
post #600 of 2663
I just bought a 1021 to use with a mitsubishi 48" widescreen crt 1080i. I will be using it with an oppo 93, a tivo hd dvr and hopefully a roku if I can get it to work. the tv does not have hdmi but i have an hdmi to component converter. I am currently using an old pioneer vsx 36 (?) with no hdmi and the system is working fine. is the 1021 unit going to work, ie will it convert signals to 1080i via hdmi or component?
if necessary will it downconvert from 1080p to 1080i (Roku told me they do not support 1080i)
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