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post #331 of 830
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Originally Posted by SeaNile View Post

I agree, my point is I can't believe a full 7 days have passed and other than me placing the order, nothing has changed. With the subs already made I would have thought 2-3 days max till they were out the door and on their way to my place.
This wait is an interesting thing, rather than being frustrated and wanting to cancel my order I am seriously considering ordering 2 more so I don't have to wait till June to get my second pair. I have a feeling ultimately I will end up with 4 18.2's so why not just add the additional 2 to the order, save $200 in shipping and get them all at the same time?

If that's what you know you're going to do and the wallet can swing it.......Why Not. Especially if you can save that much on shipping. I say jump on it because I know how anxious I am when I want something. I want it then and there. The wife gets on me about that but I can't help it. I will actually leave one place which tells me I have to wait a couple days to get something and may a good deal more for the item at the next place because I can have it that day.
post #332 of 830
SeaNile
I would call and get a general feel for where they are now on the first two. If everything works out then it souds like a great idea. Just remember that Excitement is Common Senses worse enemy and the only thing worse than getting Screwed on two subs is getting F-cked on 4 subs.wink.gif
Chris
post #333 of 830
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Originally Posted by countryWV View Post

SeaNile
I would call and get a general feel for where they are now on the first two. If everything works out then it souds like a great idea. Just remember that Excitement is Common Senses worse enemy and the only thing worse than getting Screwed on two subs is getting F-cked on 4 subs.wink.gif
Chris

LOL

I've been in constant contact with Craig and feel confident in everything. It's just the timeline that is frustrating.
post #334 of 830
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Originally Posted by countryWV View Post

SeaNile
I would call and get a general feel for where they are now on the first two. If everything works out then it souds like a great idea. Just remember that Excitement is Common Senses worse enemy and the only thing worse than getting Screwed on two subs is getting F-cked on 4 subs.wink.gif
Chris
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Originally Posted by countryWV View Post

SeaNile
I would call and get a general feel for where they are now on the first two. If everything works out then it souds like a great idea. Just remember that Excitement is Common Senses worse enemy and the only thing worse than getting Screwed on two subs is getting F-cked on 4 subs.wink.gif
Chris
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Originally Posted by countryWV View Post

SeaNile
I would call and get a general feel for where they are now on the first two. If everything works out then it souds like a great idea. Just remember that Excitement is Common Senses worse enemy and the only thing worse than getting Screwed on two subs is getting F-cked on 4 subs.wink.gif
Chris

I would rather have the 4 subs as it would be more stable! Makes a nice and bigger surface.

Basically what was said, front firing new builder, dual opposed old builder, both really nice. Waiting sucks but I do it all the time!
post #335 of 830
I ordered right from the site with the pics being dual front firing. I'll use two up from and place the JTR12LF's on them and would put other two at approximately the same place as my rear surrounds. Might be able to use the rear subs as stand for the surrounds.

There isn't a ton of options for placement. The front 2 I would need to use as stands for the front L&R and IF there were two more subs I would only be able to put them where my rears are.
post #336 of 830
There isn't a ton of options for placement.[/quote]


I am sure you will solve any limited placement option problems by having 4 double front firing 18" inch sealed subwoofers.
My guess is anywhere you put them you will have great bass smile.gif if not something is wrong wink.gif
Chris

MK
How do you think the drivers in the 18.2 compare to the new Dayton Audio 18" driver that the DIY community are using?
These 18.2 have a damn good price on them.
Edited by countryWV - 1/5/13 at 10:26am
post #337 of 830
I'll wait till by Caps sell before ordering more subs from CHT. It's only a few more days till I box up the Caps and they head to the basement. They will be of no use to me anymore.
post #338 of 830
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Originally Posted by SeaNile View Post

I'll wait till by Caps sell before ordering more subs from CHT. It's only a few more days till I box up the Caps and they head to the basement. They will be of no use to me anymore.

I would llisten to them as a comparison just for shiz 'n giggles, a/b type deal.
post #339 of 830
Order is confirmed!
post #340 of 830
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Originally Posted by countryWV View Post

There isn't a ton of options for placement.

I am sure you will solve any limited placement option problems by having 4 double front firing 18" inch sealed subwoofers.
My guess is anywhere you put them you will have great bass smile.gif if not something is wrong wink.gif
Chris
MK
How do you think the drivers in the 18.2 compare to the new Dayton Audio 18" driver that the DIY community are using?
These 18.2 have a damn good price on them.[/quote]

Just my guess but they look very close to one another as specs are concerned. I never experienced the huge rolloff people talk about with my CHT subs. They rolloff just as much as my eD 190v2's and both of those rolloff a bit more than my 13av's but nothing crazy. Most sealed subs require a low shelf of some type of boost under 20hz besides just room gain so they feel like ported subs down low. This is why power and displacement matter because you need more of it but the trade off is you get real low.
post #341 of 830
I'm out of town till late Wednesday night but hopefully the subs will be delivered by Friday at the latest. Friday night and the weekend should be a lot of fun.

Time to figure out what demo material I have in my collection.
post #342 of 830
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I'm out of town till late Wednesday night but hopefully the subs will be delivered by Friday at the latest. Friday night and the weekend should be a lot of fun.
Time to figure out what demo material I have in my collection.

Easy, WOTW, FOTP, TIH, LOTR:FOTR, etc....
post #343 of 830
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Time to figure out what demo material I have in my collection.

John I should have some time Sunday if you want to mess around. I can bring my "tools" aka demo discs and Art of flight, etc.
post #344 of 830
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Originally Posted by MKtheater View Post

Easy, WOTW, FOTP, TIH, LOTR:FOTR, etc....
or you could also grab superleo's reference disc(s) that features scenes from all of the above.
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1391873/reference-blu-ray-demo-disc-bd9-dvd-dl-media-bd50
post #345 of 830
I own those discs and prefer my blurays. To me the blurays sound better at reference(speakers).
post #346 of 830
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Originally Posted by SeaNile View Post

Time to figure out what demo material I have in my collection.

John I should have some time Sunday if you want to mess around. I can bring my "tools" aka demo discs and Art of flight, etc.

That should work! Hope to get the subs running as soon as they come so I can them warmed up for you.

I'll let you know when they show up.
post #347 of 830
Subs are coming tomorrow. I'll have them hooked up and playing at low volumes for a few hours to warm up before seeing what they can do. I'll know by Sunday night if 2 more will be ordered.
post #348 of 830
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Originally Posted by SeaNile View Post

Subs are coming tomorrow. I'll have them hooked up and playing at low volumes for a few hours to warm up before seeing what they can do. I'll know by Sunday night if 2 more will be ordered.

Awesome! I should have some of the parts in for my mains build either tomorrow or Monday too. I'll be making some sawdust on Saturday morning. biggrin.gif
post #349 of 830
Got my subs today! Gotta them hooked, playing quietly and warming up. I ran Audussey and its jacked up!! Has fronts at -12, rears at -4 and sub at -15 in addition to having the Triple 12LFs as full range speakers.
post #350 of 830
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Originally Posted by SeaNile View Post

Got my subs today! Gotta them hooked, playing quietly and warming up. I ran Audussey and its jacked up!! Has fronts at -12, rears at -4 and sub at -15 in addition to having the Triple 12LFs as full range speakers.

If your subwoofer channel (trim) level ended up at -15, then you need to turn the gain (volume) on the subwoofer amp down. Shoot for adjusting the gain such that Audyssey ends up with a number closer to zero for the subwoofer channel level on the receiver.
post #351 of 830
Congrats Seanile I'll be waiting on your impressions.I can't decide 2 or 4 lol
post #352 of 830
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Originally Posted by SeaNile View Post

Got my subs today! Gotta them hooked, playing quietly and warming up. I ran Audussey and its jacked up!! Has fronts at -12, rears at -4 and sub at -15 in addition to having the Triple 12LFs as full range speakers.

John - just replied to your email. Leave it alone for now, we will get it fixed when I come by.
post #353 of 830
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Originally Posted by Gorilla83 View Post

John - just replied to your email. Leave it alone for now, we will get it fixed when I come by.

Yea, I figured for now they are fine. They need to get warmed up and broken in a bit before I care about them really being dialed in. Ran Audyssey more out of curiosity than anything else.
post #354 of 830
Must be CHT delivery day. Just got my replacement PRO10 delivered via Fedex. (3 got delivered last Friday via R&L, but one had a defective compression driver and Craig sent me a replacement).
post #355 of 830
Love my 18.2's so much I am looking to add more subs to my system. Posted this in the classifieds but figured I would try here as well.

Just throwing it out there. I'd like to add 4 18.1 subs to my system. if anyone out there happens to have 4 CHT SS 18.1 subs let me know.

Can't go with the 18.2's due to space limitations.
post #356 of 830
Loving my subs so far. Still not used to adjusting the level of the subs for different recordings, etc. I guess for the most true representation of the recording everything should be level matched? If that is how you do it I am in the like the sub hot category.

Andrew was kind enough to come over again and aside from talking me into another amp and 4 more subs he adjusted everything and had Audyssey do it's thing. Sounds really good and is a huge improvement from what I had before. No fault of my components, speakers or subs but I really want to feel like I am at a concert when I watch concert DVD's. Looks like 4 more subs will be ordered soon. Due to space I will be going with 4 of the SS-18.1 passive subs. Looks like 4 more subs, another Crest CC4000 and probably move up to a Denon 4311 so I can adjust the audio settings on the fly.

This is still Latin to me but here is a snapshot of my subs thanks to Andrew. Looks like flat to about 14hz? After the additional subs I will toy with the idea of adding an EQ. That will also give me some time to figure out what an EQ will do for me!

post #357 of 830
^ Just to clarify those lines are 1 18.2 vs. 2 18.2's. You can see it smoothed response quite a bit up top and of course added a full 6db of output across. biggrin.gif If you flattened out the midrange with some EQ you would actually be flat quite a bit lower. There is plenty of usable extension down low there.

John - In your room I think adding a couple more sub near field will make a pretty big difference. If by some means still not enough, we'll figure it out. biggrin.gif For now just get the old equipment sold and we'll go from there.
post #358 of 830
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Originally Posted by SeaNile View Post

Loving my subs so far. Still not used to adjusting the level of the subs for different recordings, etc. I guess for the most true representation of the recording everything should be level matched? If that is how you do it I am in the like the sub hot category.

Andrew was kind enough to come over again and aside from talking me into another amp and 4 more subs he adjusted everything and had Audyssey do it's thing. Sounds really good and is a huge improvement from what I had before. No fault of my components, speakers or subs but I really want to feel like I am at a concert when I watch concert DVD's. Looks like 4 more subs will be ordered soon. Due to space I will be going with 4 of the SS-18.1 passive subs. Looks like 4 more subs, another Crest CC4000 and probably move up to a Denon 4311 so I can adjust the audio settings on the fly.

This is still Latin to me but here is a snapshot of my subs thanks to Andrew. Looks like flat to about 14hz? After the additional subs I will toy with the idea of adding an EQ. That will also give me some time to figure out what an EQ will do for me!


BTW, when I look at that graph I would not say flat to 14hz, I would say flat to 6hz! The 15-40hz is just a huge peak to me and would lower that as one broad peak. Adding the additional subs will give you the headroom to stay flat up at louder levels. I would set the center frequency to 29hz with a cut of 6-10 dBs and play around with the Q. The lower the Q the greater the range. So a Q of .1 would cover a very large range. Someone who knows this better can tell you exactly what to use. I just tweak and measure, tweak again and measure. I keep doing that until I get it the flattest because it takes seconds.
post #359 of 830
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Originally Posted by MKtheater View Post

BTW, when I look at that graph I would not say flat to 14hz, I would say flat to 6hz! The 15-40hz is just a huge peak to me and would lower that as one broad peak. Adding the additional subs will give you the headroom to stay flat up at louder levels. I would set the center frequency to 29hz with a cut of 6-10 dBs and play around with the Q. The lower the Q the greater the range. So a Q of .1 would cover a very large range. Someone who knows this better can tell you exactly what to use. I just tweak and measure, tweak again and measure. I keep doing that until I get it the flattest because it takes seconds.

Mk is that true on all eq's? I could swear the larger Q on my Behr DSP1124P means a broader correction and lower Q is a tighter bandwidth correction. I could be wrong. I think on mine the number is x/60th of an octave and ranges from 1 to 120. So 1/60th of an octave all the way to 2 octaves.
post #360 of 830
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Originally Posted by lbrown105 View Post

Mk is that true on all eq's? I could swear the larger Q on my Behr DSP1124P means a broader correction and lower Q is a tighter bandwidth correction. I could be wrong. I think on mine the number is x/60th of an octave and ranges from 1 to 120. So 1/60th of an octave all the way to 2 octaves.

I think it is just numbered differently. Your scale is 1-120 and mine is .1 to 10. I believe when I use a 10 Q it is a very narrow band and .1 is a huge band, I know there is a reason for this and someone will tell me what the differences are. I could read the manual but that takes work! rolleyes.gif
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