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post #1021 of 1366
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Originally Posted by bsprague View Post

There seems to be a short moment in time that the members of a certain age group trained themselves to talk like that. My daughter is one! I threw her out of the condo once. When she came back months later, she couldn't talk. Her version of language didn't "flow" with out her "punctuation".

I don't care about "bad words", they are just words, use them when needed, but do not use them as spaces in between meaningful words.

I watched Waiting for Superman about how hard is it for children to study in school, that they are under extreme pressure. But when one of the girls started talking into the camera that she is, like, so stressed, and the learning is, like, so hard, and she is, like, don't have time and they are, like, don't get how hard is it for her, I thought "Learn how to talk first." Maybe this is what they should teach in school before teaching everything else.
post #1022 of 1366
I am a bit disappointed with my TM 900 performance but will have to live with it. When you start noticing things that are not right, it's to late to return the camera. My biggest beef with this camera is auto white balance shifting in mid clip. After joining this clips into a video it is very annoying having a constant shifting of color and brightness through the video. Indoors is worst but outdoors is not much beater. Second, cameras OIS . It works fine when Shaking camera up-down or left-right. Image stays stable.Try slightly tilting camera out of horizontal position(side to side). It looks like image on the lcd screen is looseand swings like a picture on the wall attached with pin on the top. It is hard holding camera exactly horizontal through a shoot. Slight movement off the horizontal plane will Result is annoying picture sway.And than the stuff this guy is ranting about + fan+beeps. But I will have to say the video outside on the sun is stunning,and colors are amazing.
post #1023 of 1366
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Originally Posted by Rudy_P View Post

Second, cameras OIS . It works fine when Shaking camera up-down or left-right. Image stays stable.Try slightly tilting camera out of horizontal position(side to side). It looks like image on the lcd screen is looseand swings like a picture on the wall attached with pin on the top. It is hard holding camera exactly horizontal through a shoot. Slight movement off the horizontal plane will Result is annoying picture sway.

I returned a Panasonic SD800 (similar camera without viewfinder/storage) for that same reason with the OIS.

I thought I had a defective unit.
post #1024 of 1366
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Originally Posted by Rudy_P View Post

......... cameras OIS . It works fine when Shaking camera up-down or left-right. Image stays stable.Try slightly tilting camera out of horizontal position(side to side)........

On a trip to Europe last month I spent a lot of time walking around, shooting and trying to get steady footage. Attaching anything to the tripod socket and hanging on with my left hand helped, even a Gorillapod. Best for me was a monopod with a small ball head on it. With the ball bent and locked, I could put the collapsed monopod under my arm where I could hold it to my body with my elbow. The camera shake improved a lot. Of course, full extension of the monopod and placing it on the ground worked best.
post #1025 of 1366
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Originally Posted by dhnj View Post

You can use multiAVCHD to author non compliant 1080/60p blu-ray disc with full Menu & Chapters. As MultiAVCHD is only an AVCHD & Blu-ray Authoring application no Transitions. Transitions must be added when editing.
My Sony PS3 & Samsung BD-C6900 can handle non compliant 1080/60p blu-ray discs

Ok. Your non-issue with PS3 playback may have something to do with PAL then.
post #1026 of 1366
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Originally Posted by bsprague View Post

On a trip to Europe last month I spent a lot of time walking around, shooting and trying to get steady footage. Attaching anything to the tripod socket and hanging on with my left hand helped, even a Gorillapod. Best for me was a monopod with a small ball head on it. With the ball bent and locked, I could put the collapsed monopod under my arm where I could hold it to my body with my elbow. The camera shake improved a lot. Of course, full extension of the monopod and placing it on the ground worked best.


Yes ,By supporting the LCD display with left hand while taking a video will correct the sway to acceptable level. One hand operation on this camcorder is not recommended. I just received a tripod and not to soon.
post #1027 of 1366
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Originally Posted by Rudy_P View Post

I am a bit disappointed with my TM 900 performance but will have to live with it. When you start noticing things that are not right, it's to late to return the camera. My biggest beef with this camera is auto white balance shifting in mid clip. After joining this clips into a video it is very annoying having a constant shifting of color and brightness through the video. Indoors is worst but outdoors is not much beater. Second, cameras OIS . It works fine when Shaking camera up-down or left-right. Image stays stable.Try slightly tilting camera out of horizontal position(side to side). It looks like image on the lcd screen is looseand swings like a picture on the wall attached with pin on the top. It is hard holding camera exactly horizontal through a shoot. Slight movement off the horizontal plane will Result is annoying picture sway.And than the stuff this guy is ranting about + fan+beeps. But I will have to say the video outside on the sun is stunning,and colors are amazing.

I understand your concern. You should really be using manual settings with the TM900 most of the time.You won't have the shifting and footage will look much better. Auto mode is not it's strong point..especially wb, indoors and outdoors at times. Exposure is pretty inconsistent outdoors as well. Use manual mode with zebra and adjust iris accordingly.

Can't help you with the IS, mine seems to work fine.
post #1028 of 1366
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Originally Posted by xfws View Post

TM900 owners, I saw this video on YouTube, where this guy is complaining about the TM900 being a horrible camcorder.
Maybe you can leave some comments and help him out, lol.

Not even worth my time xfws. Why help someone out who acts like that? You probably couldn't even if you tried. Hundreds are wrong and he is right. I watched his profanity laden video, what an idiot. I'm tempted to report it to YouTube.
post #1029 of 1366
For TM900 owners that wish to make traditional BD's or AVCHD disc's with files shot in 1080/60p recording mode- the conversion assist function with HD Writer works unbelievably fast. You must have the TM900 connected to the computer- via usb, that HD Writer is running on for this feature to work.

I tried converting a 1gb 1060/60p file to 1080/60i on my laptop computer alone. It's a dual core machine. The conversion would have taken over 3 hrs with just the computer. Using the conversion assit function, it took under 10 minutes!

Granted, a computer with a better processor like an Intel i5, or i7 would do better, but nothing like the conversion assist function, imo. You can put toghether your video in 1080/60p...trimming and combining clips, adding transitions, and effects or music if you wish, then convert the entire project to be able to make a standard Blu-Ray or AVCHD disc.
post #1030 of 1366
I guess that I'm the father this guys is talking about in his video. I'm no expert just shooting videos of my family and whatever. To me the video looks better than my older HDC-SD9. I'm still learning various settings and trying this and that. I considered returning it but when Amazon offered another 20% to keep it I figured at $454 I got a fairly decent deal. I know the camcorder has some faults but I'm sure I have more than the it does. I think this guy is a ranting idiot. Like to see him go through Marine bootcamp!
post #1031 of 1366
My brother who bought this camcorder a few months back says he uses Powerdirector 10 for editing. He is no expert but has used video cameras for years and does lots of exotic vacation video taping.

I was eying Vegas Pro 11, but it seems Powerdirector 10 does just about everything and the top version is only $100 compared to $600 for Vegas Pro 11.

I read some of the non-affiliate type reviews and they are fairly stellar. Anyone here try Powerdirector? It even does 3d editing.

Is Vegas Pro 11 worth the $500 extra dollars?
post #1032 of 1366
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Originally Posted by Mamasboy View Post

Is Vegas Pro 11 worth the $500 extra dollars?

If you can live without vectorscope and waveform, then Vegas Platinum will fit the bill nicely at $100 or less.
post #1033 of 1366
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Originally Posted by Ungermann View Post

If you can live without vectorscope and waveform, then Vegas Platinum will fit the bill nicely at $100 or less.

Would that be the Sony Vegas Movie Studio HD Platinum 11 Production Suite version? I see this at $61
post #1034 of 1366
The main difference of Production Suite from just Platinum is inclusion of Soundforge and some effects. I would not care for this, but you may have different needs.

http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/...udiope/compare
post #1035 of 1366
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Originally Posted by Mamasboy View Post

Would that be the Sony Vegas Movie Studio HD Platinum 11 Production Suite version? I see this at $61

I bought that one at Fry's on a sale. It ran for a month on my new dual core i5 laptop and it quit. I searched for solutions. I uninstalled and re-installed. I emailed Sony. I tried to phone Sony. I spent an entire month on it. I have determined it is something to do with "permissions" (copy protection) deep in the registry that has gone awry. I had no choice but to get it out of my computer and I gave it away. A week later, Sony sent me an email suggesting I create a new user on my computer and install it again. (I do know that it runs well for many and it has fans.)

I am now a happy Adobe customer with Premier Elements 10, and Adobe produced "Classroom in a Book" and video training at http://www.lynda.com.

I'm finally having fun learning advanced editing and, so far, the laptop and the software remain happily married.

Bill
post #1036 of 1366
Well, s$%t happens. I am a Vegas user since 6.0 Studio. I was extremely disappointed with versions' 8 and 9 handling of AVCHD and how having lots of thumbnails in the project window made them "green" (just a green thumbnail, and there was a splash of green in the beginning of each clip) to the point that I wanted to throw Vegas away. If you asked me about Vegas at that time I would tell you as eloquently as the dude from the video above talking about his TM900 ;-) But version 10 rectified all the issues I had with Vegas. I am still using Vegas 10 and have no intention of switching to 11. Vegas 10 considerably improved AVCHD playback speed (that is, from 6-8 fps to realtime speed) and it is more stable. I bought Vegas Pro 10 for $250 and then upgraded, so I have lots of money invested, but finally my setup works well for me. I tried Premiere and it looked too unflexible to me, at least in project and render department.
post #1037 of 1366
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Originally Posted by Ungermann View Post

Well, s$%t happens....

I said it has lots of fans!
post #1038 of 1366
Just ordered a TM900 from B&H - they sent a note saying it was shipped today. I have a question.

Does this have an input of any kind (s-video, component etc.) ? Can it be used to record what is on TV? My son has been bugging me for a solution to recording his Mario Wii gameplays. I came across some sites which claimed that one could do that ith a camcorder that will take an input.

PS: My intent of purchasing this is to replace a 9 year old mini-DV unit, not for recording game plays. I am just trying to see if this can be used for the same.

Thanks.

AV
post #1039 of 1366
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Originally Posted by acrackl View Post

Just ordered a TM900 from B&H - they sent a note saying it was shipped today. I have a question.

Does this have an input of any kind (s-video, component etc.) ? Can it be used to record what is on TV? My son has been bugging me for a solution to recording his Mario Wii gameplays. I came across some sites which claimed that one could do that ith a camcorder that will take an input.

PS: My intent of purchasing this is to replace a 9 year old mini-DV unit, not for recording game plays. I am just trying to see if this can be used for the same.

Thanks.

AV

No.
post #1040 of 1366
Using HD Writer AE, I am now editing my 1080p60 videos, adding titles, transitions etc and creating a final 1080p60 file(s) that I play on my BD player as a electronic file off thumb drive or network.

So far so good.

How do I create chapters so that I can skip ahead to selected parts of the playback?

I also have to create AVCHD DVD's to give to friends. How do I create chapters and menus on such DVD's using HDWriter? Is that do-able?

Thanks.
Aloke
post #1041 of 1366
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Originally Posted by alokeprasad View Post

Using HD Writer AE, I am now editing my 1080p60 videos, adding titles, transitions etc and creating a final 1080p60 file(s) that I play on my BD player as a electronic file off thumb drive or network.

So far so good.

How do I create chapters so that I can skip ahead to selected parts of the playback?

I also have to create AVCHD DVD's to give to friends. How do I create chapters and menus on such DVD's using HDWriter? Is that do-able?

Thanks.
Aloke

I created folders on my portable HDD for my Europe trip. I named each folder for a city and put all the video for that city in that folder. With my BD Player I can select the city folder and press play. All video files in the folder will play in sequence. I also wanted to watch the entire trip at once so I made a folder for that as well with duplicate copies of all the clips. It is redundant to to it that way, but disk space is pretty cheap.

I don't know how you make chapters on DVDs and AVCHD DVDs. I've become less enthused about that because it seems I am the only one that wants to watch my stuff in glorious HD on my big TV. It appears YouTube and Vimeo are more interesting to my friends and relatives than plastic disks.

The HD Writer instructions says "Creating [optical disk] media with this software will create a 'top menu' interface that serves as a table of contents." Does that work for what you want to do?

Bill
post #1042 of 1366
AVCHD DVD's are still useful ways of giving 1080i material to others with BD players.

I'll try to burn one with HD Writer and see what happens.
post #1043 of 1366
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Originally Posted by tingham View Post

For TM900 owners that wish to make traditional BD's or AVCHD disc's with files shot in 1080/60p recording mode- the conversion assist function with HD Writer works unbelievably fast. You must have the TM900 connected to the computer- via usb, that HD Writer is running on for this feature to work.

I tried converting a 1gb 1060/60p file to 1080/60i on my laptop computer alone. It's a dual core machine. The conversion would have taken over 3 hrs with just the computer. Using the conversion assit function, it took under 10 minutes!

Granted, a computer with a better processor like an Intel i5, or i7 would do better, but nothing like the conversion assist function, imo. You can put toghether your video in 1080/60p...trimming and combining clips, adding transitions, and effects or music if you wish, then convert the entire project to be able to make a standard Blu-Ray or AVCHD disc.

No kidding!

My conversion time for a 6.6 GB 1080p60 m2ts went from 4:45 hr:min on a 12 GB quad core i7 @ 3 GHz to 1:15 hr:min with conversion assist! The camera must use some POWERFUL ASIC's ....

When processing on the PC, the HD writer used 60+ % of the CPU. When using Conversion Assist, that drops to 2%. So the camera is doing all the work (and pretty darn fast!) during Conversion Assist.
post #1044 of 1366
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Originally Posted by alokeprasad View Post

AVCHD DVD's are still useful ways of giving 1080i material to others with BD players.

I'll try to burn one with HD Writer and see what happens.

I have a number of m2ts files (one file created by the camera for each recording between hitting Pause's). I edited these (split them, added titles, transitions etc) into a single (well, really files split into 4 GB chunks) long recording in 1080p60 format.

When it comes to writing 1080i60 AVCHD on DVD: the software lets you add the individual clips and lets you create a top menu with direct access (and chapter breaks) to each clip. But, my clips are the many created by the camera (without titles and transitions) and the long edited file (with titles and transitions). I could not insert chapter breaks into my long edited file.

So, as far as I know (and I hope I'm wrong) that the alternatives are:

1. keep many shorter clips and use top level menu and chapters on AVCHD DVD or
2. edit (with titles and transitions) the various clips and create a long nice file but that will go into the AVCHD DVD as one chapter.
post #1045 of 1366
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Originally Posted by alokeprasad View Post

Using HD Writer AE, I am now editing my 1080p60 videos, adding titles, transitions etc and creating a final 1080p60 file(s) that I play on my BD player as a electronic file off thumb drive or network.

So far so good.

How do I create chapters so that I can skip ahead to selected parts of the playback?

I also have to create AVCHD DVD's to give to friends. How do I create chapters and menus on such DVD's using HDWriter? Is that do-able?

Thanks.
Aloke

Use the free MultiAVCHD tool to author AVCHD & Blu-ray discs.
Here a part of the MultiAVCHD log showing authoring a Blu-ray disc.
[11:58:06] Preparing authoring information...

[11:58:06] Authoring menu (PAL).
[11:58:06] Creating title thumbnails for 1 titles (XMB)...
[11:58:18] Using 1 thumbnail/chapter links for title #1...
[11:58:18] *** Extracting 1 chapter thumbnails...
[11:58:18] *** Chapter #1 [00:00:00.000] set for thumbnail at [00:00:46.049]
[11:58:21] Image processing for XMB menu completed!

[11:58:21] Preparing menu pages...

[11:58:21] Encoding Title List menu page [1/1].
[11:58:40] Authoring welcome screen (PAL).
[11:58:43] Encoding welcome screen...
[11:58:56] Authoring welcome screen completed.
[11:58:56] Setting main menu for 1 titles...
[11:58:56] Title List menu will be displayed after title #1.
[11:58:56] Playback will start with title #1 (2011/09/10 15:34:08 (20110910 153408)).
[11:58:56] Setting menu properties...
[11:58:56] Selected TV system: [PAL]
[11:58:56] Processing clip (CPI/CLPI) files...
[11:58:56] Completed.
[11:58:57] Setting Blu-ray format...
[11:58:59] Done!

[11:58:59] Saving multiAVCHD quick-load project (mpf):
[11:58:59] J:\\MAVCHD4\\AVCHD\\multiAVCHD.mpf (OK!)

Compilation summary:
Format: Blu-ray player (BD-R/BD-RE disc)
Name : multiAVCHD
============================================================ ===================
1. 2011/09/10 15:34:08 (20110910 153408) [00:01:32]
============================================================ ===================
Overall duration : 00:01:32
Output size : 294 MiB (0.287 GiB)

[11:59:00] J:\\MAVCHD4\\AVCHD folder created (AVCHD/Blu-ray output)!
[11:59:00] Burn its CONTENTS to BD-R/RE UDF 2.50/2.60 disc!
[11:59:02] You may now remove temp folder (J:\\MAVCHD4\\_TEMP\\multiTEMP-20120111\\).
[11:59:02] Your compilation contains 0hrs 1min 32sec of video material.

[11:59:02] multiAVCHD finished in 76.984 seconds (00:01:16.983)!

[11:59:02] End of log.
post #1046 of 1366
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Originally Posted by dhnj View Post

Use the free MultiAVCHD tool to author AVCHD & Blu-ray discs.
Here a part of the MultiAVCHD log showing authoring a Blu-ray disc.
[11:58:06] Preparing authoring information...
....
....
[11:59:02] End of log.

Hard to tell from the log file, but are you able to insert chapter stops in the middle of a long single m2ts file? and have these chapter stops show up in the top level menu?
post #1047 of 1366
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Originally Posted by alokeprasad View Post

Hard to tell from the log file, but are you able to insert chapter stops in the middle of a long single m2ts file? and have these chapter stops show up in the top level menu?

Please send me a PM with your email, so that I could help you with all the details.
post #1048 of 1366
Hi guys,

which one is better to buy:

Panasonic HDC-SD90K

Panasonic HDC-TM900K
post #1049 of 1366
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Originally Posted by Dr.leXus View Post

Hi guys,

which one is better to buy:

Panasonic HDC-SD90K

Panasonic HDC-TM900K

It what sense it should be better? Better for whom?

The "900" is technically more advanced than the "90". You must decide for yourself whether the technical superiority worth additional money. Do not skip your homework.
post #1050 of 1366
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Originally Posted by Ungermann View Post

It what sense it should be better? Better for whom?

The "900" is technically more advanced than the "90". You must decide for yourself whether the technical superiority worth additional money. Do not skip your homework.

The difference in price $270.00 in my local store. Is it worth - Price / Quality?
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