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post #121 of 538
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Originally Posted by McLuvin1 View Post

Hey LBJ,
The video on the main page of the URL you supplied played fine on the Revue, even at full screen on my XBR-52HX909.

Hello This is good news indeed. Thank you for checking out that link. I don't even own the Revue yet ( due to arrive tomorrow) and am already impressed. I read there is a new Android HoneyComb 3.1 update either out already or coming out soon too.

Does your HTCT550W play the different digital sound fields from the Revue when available e.g. Dolby Digital or DTS ?
post #122 of 538
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Originally Posted by LBJ2 View Post


Hello This is good news indeed. Thank you for checking out that link. I don't even own the Revue yet ( due to arrive tomorrow) and am already impressed. I read there is a new Android HoneyComb 3.1 update either out already or coming out soon too.

Does your HTCT550W play the different digital sound fields from the Revue when available e.g. Dolby Digital or DTS ?

Have not looked at the sound processing while watching Revue content. Let me know what you think when yours arrives. We may want to start a new or find an existing Logitech Revue thread as I feel like we are veering off topic here. Let me know.
post #123 of 538
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Originally Posted by McLuvin1 View Post

Have not looked at the sound processing while watching Revue content. Let me know what you think when yours arrives. We may want to start a new or find an existing Logitech Revue thread as I feel like we are veering off topic here. Let me know.

OK. Thanks again
post #124 of 538
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Originally Posted by LBJ2 View Post

OK. Thanks again

LBJ2, did you ever compare the CT150 with the CT550W. I am debating between the two. Not sure what to get. You said the 550 did better than the 350, so I assume it would also be better than the 150 in your eyes. Did you compare quality of the dialog in addition to the loud sound effects? Appreciate any feedback. The 350 is discontinued and hard to find, that's why I am considering the 150.
post #125 of 538
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Originally Posted by bigcat View Post

LBJ2, did you ever compare the CT150 with the CT550W. I am debating between the two. Not sure what to get. You said the 550 did better than the 350, so I assume it would also be better than the 150 in your eyes. Did you compare quality of the dialog in addition to the loud sound effects? Appreciate any feedback. The 350 is discontinued and hard to find, that's why I am considering the 150.

Hello Bigcat: If you are set on a Sony Sound bar, I don't think you can go wrong with either one really. Since the CT100, Sony has produced some very respectable Sound bars.

I did not compare the CT150 however, I might offer the following for your consideration:
  • Subwoofer/Receiver design: the CT150 all-in-one vs the wireless subwoofer and separate Receiver. For me the 550W wireless subwoofer has turned out to be a nice surprise both powerful and mobile-- as I can move the S/W pretty much where I like--however if you are wall mounting the TV and sound bar, you'll have to consider where to place the separate 550W Receiver component.
  • 3.1 vs 2.1--surprisingly Sony really made the 550W 2.1 work, if configured correctly, I don't think you will notice that it's not a 3.1. (Plenty of center channel/balanced dialogue capabilities.)
  • Technology--I'm sure you already compared the specs/sound fields etc. so I won't go into that and both process 3D with 3 HDMI inputs and 1 out.
  • CT 150 has been on the market longer and seems to carry on the tradition of very good ratings from many happy customers...not to mention a lower price tag.
Hope this contributes to your decision process. Do let me know what you end up with, and if you have any setup questions.
post #126 of 538
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Originally Posted by LBJ2 View Post

Hello Bigcat: If you are set on a Sony Sound bar, I don't think you can go wrong with either one really. Since the CT100, Sony has produced some very respectable Sound bars.

I did not compare the CT150 however, I might offer the following for your consideration:
  • Subwoofer/Receiver design: the CT150 all-in-one vs the wireless subwoofer and separate Receiver. For me the 550W wireless subwoofer has turned out to be a nice surprise both powerful and mobile-- as I can move the S/W pretty much where I like--however if you are wall mounting the TV and sound bar, you'll have to consider where to place the separate 550W Receiver component.
  • 3.1 vs 2.1--surprisingly Sony really made the 550W 2.1 work, if configured correctly, I don't think you will notice that it's not a 3.1. (Plenty of center channel/balanced dialogue capabilities.)
  • Technology--I'm sure you already compared the specs/sound fields etc. so I won't go into that and both process 3D with 3 HDMI inputs and 1 out.
  • CT 150 has been on the market longer and seems to carry on the tradition of very good ratings from many happy customers...not to mention a lower price tag.
Hope this contributes to your decision process. Do let me know what you end up with, and if you have any setup questions.

Thanks. That helps. This system is for a 60" sony (60LX900), and looking at the sony bars for the price and compatibility. I don't really want to spend $800 on a sound bar.

I think you had a comment on the TV size (which I guess you edited out), which was a good point, though I don't know what the impact of that really is.

I am fine with the separate receiver in the 550. I was mainly concerned about the 2.1 (vs 3.1) and ability to decode the HD formats. Looks like the 150 can't decode these, but not sure how much of a disadvantage that is when it comes to a sound bar. Considering everything, it seems going with the 550 is probably the safer bet. Oh, one other thing, my house is full of wireless devices, all kinds of them, and not sure the wireless sub is going to have or create a problem in that area.

Thanks again.

EDIT: forgot to mention the TV is in our family room which is two-story and an open floor plan, very large space, so I am aware the sound bar may have a problem filling that large of a space, but we are having trouble hearing from the TV speakers. I can't set up a 5.1 system in this area. So I am hoping a bar can help.
post #127 of 538
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Originally Posted by bigcat View Post

Thanks. That helps. This system is for a 60" sony (60LX900), and looking at the sony bars for the price and compatibility. I don't really want to spend $800 on a sound bar.

I think you had a comment on the TV size (which I guess you edited out), which was a good point, though I don't know what the impact of that really is.

I am fine with the separate receiver in the 550. I was mainly concerned about the 2.1 (vs 3.1) and ability to decode the HD formats. Looks like the 150 can't decode these, but not sure how much of a disadvantage that is when it comes to a sound bar. Considering everything, it seems going with the 550 is probably the safer bet. Oh, one other thing, my house is full of wireless devices, all kinds of them, and not sure the wireless sub is going to have or create a problem in that area.

Thanks again.

EDIT: forgot to mention the TV is in our family room which is two-story and an open floor plan, very large space, so I am aware the sound bar may have a problem filling that large of a space, but we are having trouble hearing from the TV speakers. I can't set up a 5.1 system in this area. So I am hoping a bar can help.

(Yes--I took out the 32" vs 40" comment as I wonder if that really makes a difference.) Also, now that I know more about the large space you are trying to fill I do recommend the 550W over the 150.

I have a lot of wireless connections in my house too--and I haven't had any issues with 550W SW interference ( you can change the frequency band on the SW if you do experience any issues.)

I am still pleasantly surprised every time I turn on the 550W. Please note: if your setup results in a weak SW effect or "tinny" sound effect on the sound bar, see my configuration recommendations posted in this forum.
post #128 of 538
Hello to all,

LBJ2, thanks for posting your settings earlier, i received my 550 about two weeks ago. I have tried them and they do make a big difference from the original factory settings. The SW and center speakers sounds crispy. I still need to play a blueray movie to appreciate it better.

For now I am very happy with the investment. I recommend to anyone interested to check out the nerds at ebay, they provide very fast shipping and very proffesional transaction with tracking, not to mention the price.
post #129 of 538
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Originally Posted by shanidlc View Post

Hello to all,

LBJ2, thanks for posting your settings earlier, i received my 550 about two weeks ago. I have tried them and they do make a big difference from the original factory settings. The SW and center speakers sounds crispy. I still need to play a blueray movie to appreciate it better.

For now I am very happy with the investment. I recommend to anyone interested to check out the nerds at ebay, they provide very fast shipping and very proffesional transaction with tracking, not to mention the price.

Good to hear. Thanks for letting me know. I am glad you are enjoying your new 550W. With the right HDMI cables and a little attention to the amp menu and receiver settings, this sound bar really delivers.
post #130 of 538
I see one of these currently up for auction on ebay from a seller called Techpro. Current bid is at $182 with one day left on the auction. Just unsure about ordering something like this from ebay. Anyone ever heard of this seller?
post #131 of 538
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Originally Posted by LBJ2 View Post

OK. Thanks again

Hey LBJ how are you liking the Revue?
post #132 of 538
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Originally Posted by McLuvin1 View Post

Hey LBJ how are you liking the Revue?

In line with the topic of this forum.....I'm still testing out the Revue with the HTCT550W Receiver. It certainly works with the 550W and was easy enough to connect--now I am just trying to determine if there is any affect on how the 550W processes audio formats like Dolby Digital coming from my DirecTV DVR/Receiver through the Revue to the 550W.

Apologies in advance to my fellow 550W avsforum contributors for going off topic for a brief comment or two....the Revue certainly provides a robust web browser for TV web browsing. I am posting this msg via the Revue web browser on my big screen TV. The web browser that comes with my TV is so painfully slow it's essentially worthless--so the Revue is a major value -add in this area for me. There are many other positives to this device too--I can't wait for the 3.1 Honeycomb update to come out. Thanks for the recommendation

Back on topic of this forum...and a question to you or any others that have connected the Revue to the 550W through a cable/satellite box--do you see the audio format like Dolby Digital or DTS displayed on the front panel of your 550W when viewing content from your cable or satellite service? Or do you see LPCM displayed?
post #133 of 538
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Originally Posted by daz655321 View Post

I see one of these currently up for auction on ebay from a seller called Techpro. Current bid is at $182 with one day left on the auction. Just unsure about ordering something like this from ebay. Anyone ever heard of this seller?

This is indeed one of the best prices--by far I have seen for this system, albeit a "bid" price. Maybe too good, so I think you are right to be cautious. I don't know of this seller myself. Did you check to see how they are rated by other customers on ebay? Also, check to see if they offer a return policy--from what I have seen on ebay, if the seller offers a return period its normally posted.
post #134 of 538
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Originally Posted by LBJ2 View Post

Here's what worked for my set up:

Recommendations:

1. Use high-speed HDMI cables only (1.4 HDMI) through your ARC HDMI port on your TV
2. Set your video/audio source E.g. Blu-ray player, PS3 etc. to "bitstream" for Audio Digital Out ( turn-off Linear PCM)
3. Turn off your TV speakers (use only the sound bar and SW--else you might get a "hollow" sound)


My current HT-CT550W settings that seem to make the biggest difference:

AMP Menu
Level: CNT +4, SW +6
Tone: Bass +5 or 6, Treble +3
Audio: Dual Mono: Main? ( I am still deciding)

Other settings:

DRC-Off

Sound Field: Movie

Note: For really BIG sound--try increasing the master volume +15 on the Receiver (independently) before you sync the TV volume with the Receiver Volume

Let me know what you think

Am I supposed to see the AMP menu on the TV screen? How do I make sure the bravia sync thing is working. I don't see the AMP menu on the TV. One more thing, the volume level on the receiver shows 34 while the TV shows 65. I am not sure how you "sync the TV volume with the Receiver Volume".
post #135 of 538
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Originally Posted by bigcat View Post

Am I supposed to see the AMP menu on the TV screen? How do I make sure the bravia sync thing is working. I don't see the AMP menu on the TV. One more thing, the volume level on the receiver shows 34 while the TV shows 65. I am not sure how you "sync the TV volume with the Receiver Volume".

Hey! You got the system already.
Unfortunately Sony did not include their Home Theater application on the LX900--so you can't display the amp menu on the LX TV itself. So use the front panel display on the Receiver.

On your volume question. Did you set it up so the LX900 remote is also controlling the Receiver volume?
post #136 of 538
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Originally Posted by LBJ2 View Post

Hey! You got the system already.
Unfortunately Sony did not include their Home Theater application on the LX900--so you can't display the amp menu on the LX TV itself. So use the front panel display on the Receiver.

On your volume question. Did you set it up so the LX900 remote is also controlling the Receiver volume?

Yep, came fast from Amazon . Yes, the TV remote is controlling the receiver volume, I didn't have to do anything for that. The level reported on the TV screen is different than the level reported on the receiver. But not really a big deal; when you said "sync volume" I thought maybe there was a way to correct that.

I just installed it last night, and as reported by many, it didn't sound very good with default settings. I immediately adjusted the settings to match yours and tuned to a channel that was playing a movie and felt the difference right away. Didn't have time to play a bluray movie. Will do so today. I use a PS3 and did notice yesterday it has a Bitstream option in the BD/DVD HDMI Audio Output menu so I set it to that. Thanks for your review and help here.
post #137 of 538
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Originally Posted by bigcat View Post

Yep, came fast from Amazon . Yes, the TV remote is controlling the receiver volume, I didn't have to do anything for that. The level reported on the TV screen is different than the level reported on the receiver. But not really a big deal; when you said "sync volume" I thought maybe there was a way to correct that.

I just installed it last night, and as reported by many, it didn't sound very good with default settings. I immediately adjusted the settings to match yours and tuned to a channel that was playing a movie and felt the difference right away. Didn't have time to play a bluray movie. Will do so today. I use a PS3 and did notice yesterday it has a Bitstream option in the BD/DVD HDMI Audio Output menu so I set it to that. Thanks for your review and help here.

Great to hear. There's more system capabilities on the 550W than the previous Sony Sound bars so it takes a bit more configuration attention to optimize. ( Requires one to read the manual as well--something I am normally not inclined to do--LOL)

Okay well keep playing around with this system--there are a couple of things yet to discover to enhance its capabilities.

One thing to check is if the Receiver displays the audio format type on the display indicator ( where available) --E.g. if you see one of the Dolby Digital and/or DTS signal formats displayed then you are going in the right direction. If the Receiver only displays LPCM regardless of the signal type--then check the bitstream setting on the source device.

Also, the 550W will work with the Position Control function on your LX900 so if you have the Position Control set on your LX900--the 550W will dynamically optimize sound bar speakers to your seating position in the room.

Enjoy!
post #138 of 538
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Originally Posted by LBJ2 View Post

Also, the 550W will work with the Position Control function on your LX900 so if you have the Position Control set on your LX900--the 550W will optimize sound bar speakers to your seating position in the room

Enjoy!

That's cool. Didn't know that. Will definitely play with that.
post #139 of 538
What are the pros and cons of getting either:

1. HTCT550W + Sony Blu-Ray Player (With Wifi)


or


2. Sony all in one - BDV-F7
post #140 of 538
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Originally Posted by macbookq View Post

What are the pros and cons of getting either:

1. HTCT550W + Sony Blu-Ray Player (With Wifi)


or


2. Sony all in one - BDV-F7

Hello
I never considered the BDV-F7. However from first look its form-factor ( no separate receiver module) might lend itself to TV/Soundbar wall mounting better than the HTCT550W if that is important to you.

Perhaps someone else in this forum has some experience with the BDV-F7?
post #141 of 538
So has anyone compared the CT550W to the Polk Surroundbar 6000? I'm on the fence between the two. The Sony is cheaper, has more features and would be easier to make work with my setup (TV only passes PCM over optical) but the Polk may sound better but only has one optical input.

I have an HT-CT100 right now.
post #142 of 538
I returned the BDV-F7 earlier this week. While the BDV-F7 is a convenient (main reason why I got it), beautiful and decent sounding system, too much Sony software lead to an unstable system. I returned the BDV-F7 for the following reasons:

1. The system takes too long to power off and on. During shutdown, you cannot power the system back on immediately. You have to wait about 2 minutes for the unit to completely shut off before you can do anything else.
2. When powering up, the input defaults to TV mode and you can not change the default to something else such as Sat/Cable.
3. Sometimes when the unit powers on, there is no sound, even when switched to FM Tuner. My other equipment is working, as I have a 5.1 system to test for sound. Continual cycles to different inputs will eventually turn sound on.
4. The included USB Wifi adapters gets really hot and wireless connection does not always work. Unplugging the USB adapter causes the whole system to freeze, but it would eventually work again after a power cycle.

I was surprised that the BDV-F7 sounded better at home than I thought and equally pleased the unit has a built-in DLNA server, so you can use the "Play To" feature of Windows Media Player. My TV only has a DLNA player, so Windows Media Player cannot "play to" the TV.

Had there not been so many quirks, I would have kept the BDV-F7. Unfortunately, too many features introduces unacceptable bugs in the unit from (what I'm suspecting) a weak software department at Sony. No wonder why the PS3 network keeps getting hacked.
post #143 of 538
LBJ2, what parts of the manual must be read? On that advice I read through it all, but didn't see anything that wasn't covered by your suggested settings. The Bravia and HDMI control didn't apply so I skipped those.

I got these a week ago, purely based on the feedback here because the store demo unit was set up poorly (probably on defaults) and they couldn't find the remote for it. At home, even with the suggested settings (or close to them), there are times when the sound (especially mid-tones) is rather hollow, muddled or unclear, as if it needed a few notches higher of treble. If I up the volume a bit it seems to improve, but I live in a condo with neighbours above and below, so it'll almost never get turned up higher than 12-15 out of the 49 volume levels.

These replaced PC speakers that were hooked up to the TV via headphone jack, so I'm an audio newbie and don't know if it's *supposed* to sound like this with a good bass system (the PC speakers didn't always convey speech well, but the mid-tones were very clear and the cheap bass was still 10x better than the TV speakers). It's also not mounted yet since I'm not sure about it, so it's sitting in front of the TV unit, raised about an inch so the sound doesn't reflect right off the shelf.

Sometimes a different sound field helps. It's mixed use TV, PS3/BluRay, Airport Express and FM tuner, but even some top-40 FM have muddled mid-tones while in the "Music" field--not at all expected compared to what I hear in clubs.

Does this soundbar need more baby-ing than other soundbars in this price range, or would all soundbars have similar characteristics and I'm just not used to a good sound system?
post #144 of 538
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Originally Posted by avnewbe View Post

LBJ2, what parts of the manual must be read? On that advice I read through it all, but didn't see anything that wasn't covered by your suggested settings. The Bravia and HDMI control didn't apply so I skipped those.

I got these a week ago, purely based on the feedback here because the store demo unit was set up poorly (probably on defaults) and they couldn't find the remote for it. At home, even with the suggested settings (or close to them), there are times when the sound (especially mid-tones) is rather hollow, muddled or unclear, as if it needed a few notches higher of treble. If I up the volume a bit it seems to improve, but I live in a condo with neighbours above and below, so it'll almost never get turned up higher than 12-15 out of the 49 volume levels.

These replaced PC speakers that were hooked up to the TV via headphone jack, so I'm an audio newbie and don't know if it's *supposed* to sound like this with a good bass system (the PC speakers didn't always convey speech well, but the mid-tones were very clear and the cheap bass was still 10x better than the TV speakers). It's also not mounted yet since I'm not sure about it, so it's sitting in front of the TV unit, raised about an inch so the sound doesn't reflect right off the shelf.

Sometimes a different sound field helps. It's mixed use TV, PS3/BluRay, Airport Express and FM tuner, but even some top-40 FM have muddled mid-tones while in the "Music" field--not at all expected compared to what I hear in clubs.

Does this sound bar need more baby-ing than other soundbars in this price range, or would all soundbars have similar characteristics and I'm just not used to a good sound system?

Hello: Yes IMO you have to spend a little more time adjusting this system and using the right cables then the previous Sony Sound Bars.

Couple of things to check:
  • Use only marked "High Speed" HDMI cables ( that means 1.3 a, b, c or 1.4) for all your connections.
  • Try turning off Aduio DRC.
  • Try turning on/off your night mode.
  • Do adjust the Bass, Treble tone levels ( separate from the SW or CNT settings).
  • Make sure your TV speakers are turned off completely and your TV is set to output sound to the Audio System ( 550W)
  • Do output audio from Bluray/PS3 in Bitstream not PCM( You can check this on the receiver display--you should see DTS/Dolby displayed not LPCM ). I noticed a significant difference in clarity and detail when sending DTS HD via Bitstream from my bluray player to the 550W.
  • Change the position of the sound bar--sometimes the cabinet itself can cause distortion e.g., surround wood, glass, metal etc.
  • Change the position of the S/W
  • Test this system with a Bluray disk DTS or Dolby. (Some broadcast programming from radio, OTA, cable or satellite just sound terrible no matter what.)

The above seem to make the biggest difference from those I have chatted with on the various forums as well as the product comments on Amazon.com. Hopefully some of these will help you too. Let me know.
post #145 of 538
Looking to put your new 550W sound bar & S/W through its paces?

I just got the new Transformers: Dark of the Moon 2D Blu-ray today from Amazon. "...a top 5 AQ BD...". With Dolby TrueHD the surround-sound fun starts at the very beginning when the Paramount logo is displayed even before the movie starts and they fling the surround-sound effects across your room--a real testament to the virtual surround sound capabilities of the 550W. ( I have to admit that I did sit right in middle sweet-spot of the sound bar and the TV to maximize the effect for my ears :-)

Anyway, if you are looking to have some fun and see what your 550W can do this blu-ray might help you get there.
post #146 of 538
Just got mine yesterday to upgrade my HT-CT100, so far with the mentioned tweaks it sounds great with much better dialogue clarity. HDMI-CEC also works great. Now I just need my USB HDMI-CEC adapter to get here so I can control my HTPC with the tv remote.



post #147 of 538
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Originally Posted by Tuan View Post

Just got mine yesterday to upgrade my HT-CT100, so far with the mentioned tweaks it sounds great with much better dialogue clarity. HDMI-CEC also works great. Now I just need my USB HDMI-CEC adapter to get here so I can control my HTPC with the tv remote.




Tuan: Congratulations on your new sound system! I really like the way you tucked the Receiver under the TV panel--looks great
post #148 of 538
Finally ordered today from amazon. Had some giftcards so the final price was $265. Looking forward to having some decent sound for my tv in the bedroom.
post #149 of 538
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Originally Posted by daz655321 View Post

Finally ordered today from amazon. Had some giftcards so the final price was $265. Looking forward to having some decent sound for my tv in the bedroom.

Okay well that does sound like a decent price indeed. At least with Amazon you can return this system if there is something wrong or if you just don't like it. ( I'm not sure you had that option with the ebay vendor you were looking at).

Also, since you'll be needing newer High Speed HDMI cables for your new 550W, if you don't already own these cables--Amazon sells excellent High Speed HDMI cables for less than $10 a piece. Check out the reviews on these cables--most are rated 4+ stars by hundreds of customers.
post #150 of 538
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Originally Posted by LBJ2 View Post

Okay well that does sound like a decent price indeed. At least with Amazon you can return this system if there is something wrong or if you just don't like it. ( I'm not sure you had that option with the ebay vendor you were looking at).

Also, since you'll be needing newer High Speed HDMI cables for your new 550W, if you don't already own these cables--Amazon sells excellent High Speed HDMI cables for less than $10 a piece. Check out the reviews on these cables--most are rated 4+ stars by hundreds of customers.

I did pick up a couple more high speed hdmi cables along with the soundbar. I liked the amazon option better than ebay because of the 1 day shipping option with amazon prime. I am sure the customer service will be better in case I need to return it or have issues. Hope the set up goes smoothly with my revue as well.
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