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post #1 of 2480
Thread Starter 
Seems 47 inchers are shipping soon.

Can these sets be taken to europe where they will not come out for an apparent much longer time? I hear the voltage is no problem, the question is 50/60 fps 200 or 240Hz.
post #2 of 2480
Thanks for starting the thread Cineramax. Wish I could help you with your questions. I'm interested in the 55" of this model or the Vizio XVT3D556SP. Looking for good passive 3D, very good 2D, a web browser, and a price low enough that I don't have to sell a kidney to pay for it
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post #4 of 2480
Thanks for the link Lee. "Available for pre order". Any idea when this model will actually be available?
post #5 of 2480
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Originally Posted by Thompsonbrook View Post

Thanks for the link Lee. "Available for pre order". Any idea when this model will actually be available?

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2011 LW6500 series also uses FPR screen film for passive 3D viewing and has all features of LW5600 models. This step up series uses 240 Hz refresh rate with screen sizes of 47″, 55″ and 65″ screen sizes and are shipping now.

http://hdguru.com/lgs-2011-lcdled-hd...193/#more-4193
post #6 of 2480
Can't wait for the 47" to start shipping. Unfortunately I think we still have a couple months of waiting ahead of us.
post #7 of 2480
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Originally Posted by Slirp View Post

Can't wait for the 47" to start shipping. Unfortunately I think we still have a couple months of waiting ahead of us.

Really? Looks like they are in stock
https://clevelandplasma.com/store/lc...lg/lg_47lw6500
I'm waiting for reviews on 55", actually
post #8 of 2480
Thread Starter 
Thanks Lee for posting a link with a PDF addressing the display frequencies of the us units which exclude 25 and 50 hz.

I spoke to the guys at Teranex and they reinforced that by explaining that normally US tv's do not handle 25/50 but that European TV's do handle 30/60/120/240 in addition to the 25/50/100/200 .

Bummer.
post #9 of 2480
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Originally Posted by micksh View Post

Really? Looks like they are in stock
https://clevelandplasma.com/store/lc...lg/lg_47lw6500
I'm waiting for reviews on 55", actually

Hey, I'm happy to be wrong if it's really the case. Can't wait to see some reviews.
post #10 of 2480
Apparently, LG LW5600 owners thread existed in 2D display subforum for quite some time
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1319231
I never looked at 2D forum so I found this accidentally just now, because LG TV was mentioned in Vizio passive thread here.

There are some reviews like this
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...9&postcount=25
Everything should be relevant to LW6500, with major difference being 240Hz vs 120Hz, AFAIK.
post #11 of 2480
The current thread is for the LW6500. The link given is for the LW5600. The LW6500 is better than the LW5600. Hopefully, it will be released soon.

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Originally Posted by micksh View Post

Apparently, LG LW5600 owners thread existed in 2D display subforum for quite some time
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1319231
I never looked at 2D forum so I found this accidentally just now, because LG TV was mentioned in Vizio passive thread here.

There are some reviews like this
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...9&postcount=25
Everything should be relevant to LW6500, with major difference being 240Hz vs 120Hz, AFAIK.
post #12 of 2480
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Originally Posted by Kansas Guy View Post

The current thread is for the LW6500. The link given is for the LW5600. The LW6500 is better than the LW5600. Hopefully, it will be released soon.

What do you mean by this? It has been released. In my previous post I gave link on 47LW6500 that is in stock right now. 55" LW6500 was in stock at that time, but not anymore.

I know 6500 is better, at least in 240Hz frequency (which was questionable improvement for 2D), which I stated. Do you have more information about their differences? How exactly is it better?
In worst case they are the same in other aspects, so it makes sense to read LW5600 impressions until LW6500 owners/reviews appear, no?
post #13 of 2480
I thought the ONLY difference was the Hz. If there's something else, I'd love to hear it.
post #14 of 2480
I checked out the LW5600 in BB the yesterday. Of course they didn't have any glasses available so I'll have to go back today with my glasses left over from theaters. I was pretty impressed with the 2D even at 120hz which I've had issues with from time to time. I'm really excited to see the 3D later on.

The HDGURU article basically said the only difference between the 5600 and 6500 seriese was the refresh rate.
post #15 of 2480
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Originally Posted by Slirp View Post

I checked out the LW5600 in BB the yesterday.

How was the reflectivity of the screen Slirp?
post #16 of 2480
Thread Starter 
I gave a Sammy 55-9000-240 and a Vizio-65-120, the 3D in the sammy is soo horrible I basically have relegated it to a ADA(american with disabilities act) sized computer monitor.

On 2 d the 240 is unnerving to me, the 120 on the vizio is more bearable.

The Vizio is a home run in 3D-WINNING!
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I am looking for the 55LW6500. I saw it showing as in stock a few days ago but when I checked with them to order, they didn't have it and then removed it from the site. I question whether it really had ever been in stock.
The main differences are the 240Hz vs 120Hz Frame Rate, 7,000,000:1 vs 5,000,000:1 Dynamic Contrast Ratio and possibly Skype Ready vs not Skype Ready. The LW6500 is supposed to be but I haven't seen anything on whether the LW5600 does. Yes, reading the info on the LW5600 does give helpful information.

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Originally Posted by micksh View Post

What do you mean by this? It has been released. In my previous post I gave link on 47LW6500 that is in stock right now. 55" LW6500 was in stock at that time, but not anymore.

I know 6500 is better, at least in 240Hz frequency (which was questionable improvement for 2D), which I stated. Do you have more information about their differences? How exactly is it better?
In worst case they are the same in other aspects, so it makes sense to read LW5600 impressions until LW6500 owners/reviews appear, no?
post #18 of 2480
Thread Starter 
In Florida the distributor is expecting 8 46 any moment, 8 55's in a week or so, and the 65's they are just on order.
post #19 of 2480
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Originally Posted by Kansas Guy View Post

I am looking for the 55LW6500. I saw it showing as in stock a few days ago but when I checked with them to order, they didn't have it and then removed it from the site. I question whether it really had ever been in stock.

I guess you forced them to expose the truth with your order attempt. I just saw it on web site, don't know if they really had it in stock. I am looking for this TV too.
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The main differences are the 240Hz vs 120Hz Frame Rate, 7,000,000:1 vs 5,000,000:1 Dynamic Contrast Ratio

That's a good piece of info. While manufacturer's dynamic contrast claims are usually BS, it may indicate that 6500 have some better coating and/or backlight control versus 5600.

From reading 5600 reviews it looks like there may be some problem with backlight leaking or something else is wrong with dark levels. I hope it will be better with 6500.
LG can't make 6500 40% brighter so I hope the claimed contrast ratio on 6500 addresses some potential 5600 dark level problems (still uncertain here).

This is the quote from 5600 review that concerns me:
"If you like to watch wide aspect ratio movies in dark rooms and/or you tend to obsess over things, this TV isn't for you."
post #20 of 2480
Here is information on the 55LW6500 from the LG web site:

http://www.lg.com/ca_en/tv-audio-vid...-55LW6500.jsp#
post #21 of 2480
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Originally Posted by Thompsonbrook View Post

How was the reflectivity of the screen Slirp?

Very nice matte finish. I wouldn't have any trouble putting it in a medium light room.

I had a chance to go back yesterday with some RealD glasses from the theater. Unfortunately the 47 wasn't hooked up to a 3D source but the 2d->3D conversion was actually pretty impressive. The 55 was on a 3D player but had the LG demo in it and they wouldn't let me pop in anything else. I would have really liked to get some real viewing time on it. I really liked the 2D performance and i generally haven't thought as highly of 120hz TVs. The 3D on the 55 worried me a little during high motion. It almost felt as if my eyes were working hard to piece the picture together. Leaving the store the eyes even felt a little fatigued, though that could have been from the stress dealing with the BB sales guys Overall the TV is a beauty, but I'll need a little more play time with it in 3D before i'm totally sold.
post #22 of 2480
Slirp,

Thanks for the reply. I have a bright room and a matt screen would be a real bonus. This model is supposed to have a fully functioning web browser. Though from what I'm reading it won't be live until Q3(!?). I'm wondering how the remote will handle web browsing.

I'm very interested in the Vizio XVT3D556SP (no idea when it will be available) which will supposedly have a touch screen remote. That sounds like a great way to go. Even better than their current pull-out QWERTY remote. My understanding is that the LW6500 comes with a "standard" remote and the magic wand remote. Neither of these seems like the ideal way to input search terms or text to a browser. Just wondering if you saw anything about the remote to indicate LG has a cool solution for this.

Thanks again for your help.
post #23 of 2480
The browser on the 47lw5600 works but it's slow.
post #24 of 2480
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Originally Posted by Bill View Post

The browser on the 47lw5600 works but it's slow.

I wish manufacturers stopped including browsers, internet-connected apps, etc in TVs.
I've been using HTPC for years. It does have browser and all other stuff that can possibly be in TV. Now I have blu-ray player that plays Netflix, DLNA, Vudu, Amazon and others. Receiver that plays Slacker radio, Pandora, vTuner, etc.

While decent SoC is necessary for blu-ray players in order to decrypt HD codecs and connect to internet for BD-Live, for TVs it is just unnecessary addition to price, probably $100 or more that I have to pay even if I don't need it.
post #25 of 2480
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Originally Posted by Thompsonbrook View Post

Slirp,

Thanks for the reply. I have a bright room and a matt screen would be a real bonus. This model is supposed to have a fully functioning web browser. Though from what I'm reading it won't be live until Q3(!?). I'm wondering how the remote will handle web browsing.

I'm very interested in the Vizio XVT3D556SP (no idea when it will be available) which will supposedly have a touch screen remote. That sounds like a great way to go. Even better than their current pull-out QWERTY remote. My understanding is that the LW6500 comes with a "standard" remote and the magic wand remote. Neither of these seems like the ideal way to input search terms or text to a browser. Just wondering if you saw anything about the remote to indicate LG has a cool solution for this.

Thanks again for your help.


LG has an app for the IPod/IPhone where you can control your TV through that. I think that'll give you most of what you wanted. (I believe there's also an Android app as well)
post #26 of 2480
Samsung also has an ipod app which works for their 2010 TV's. Honestly, for anything other than controlling web browsers etc, touch screen remotes aren't that great as they have no tactile feedback. I wouldn't want just a touch screen remote, they are good as an alternative in some cases.
post #27 of 2480
I just don't want to be clicking endless up and down arrows just to enter a web address thats all.
post #28 of 2480
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Originally Posted by Thompsonbrook View Post

I just don't want to be clicking endless up and down arrows just to enter a web address thats all.

It's not mentioned on the app page on apple but I keep seeing people reference that there's a full qwerty keyboard in there somewhere. Perhapse that's what the "Shake for premium" option gets you. Keep in mind I think the browser is just releasing so with the new smart options on the TVs there will probably be big enhancements to their mobile apps.
post #29 of 2480
So, is anybody actually selling the 55" model? I've seen it for pre-order. And could someone please tell me specifically how text will be entered for apps, and especially for the web browser. Does the LG remote have a keyboard?
post #30 of 2480
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Originally Posted by Thompsonbrook View Post

I just don't want to be clicking endless up and down arrows just to enter a web address thats all.

The browser is slow. You won't be using it much.
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