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post #1501 of 2465
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Originally Posted by HankHill View Post

Go to the very right edge of the screen and there should be an arrow button, hit that button

I only have an "Exit" button in the Top Right. Maybe I need to be on another screen or menu?
post #1502 of 2465
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Originally Posted by RonH54 View Post

I only have an "Exit" button in the Top Right. Maybe I need to be on another screen or menu?

On the HOME page under the exit button, there are the LG Apps to the right of that is a
small gray arrow, hit that arrow
post #1503 of 2465
So our 65LW6500 will be here tomorrow, and a Sony BDV-E780W shortly thereafter, and then Time Warner Cable 3D-HD DVR. Can anyone make a suggestion on how best to hook everything up?

Sony BDV-E780W:
Component Video Output(s): 1
Composite Video Output(s): 1
HDMI Output(s): 1
Analog Audio Input(s): PIN Jack: 1
Auto Calibration Mic Input(s): 1
Coaxial Audio Input(s): 1
Ethernet Connection(s): 1
HDMI Input(s): 2
Infrared Input(s): 1
Optical Audio Input(s): 1
USB Input(s): 2

Thanks!!!!!!!!!
post #1504 of 2465
butterflysmasher,

Use the 3rd HDMI port. Label it "PC" and change the AV Mode to "Game". You should have very little lag.

I was having problems with lag, especially noticeable when playing MLB 11: The Show using the pitcher meter and the 2nd HDMI port. I was pretty much set on returning the TV until I found a post here where someone stated that using the 3rd HDMI port would solve the problem. Don't know why it works, but it does. Hope this helps.
post #1505 of 2465
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Originally Posted by HankHill View Post

On the HOME page under the exit button, there are the LG Apps to the right of that is a
small gray arrow, hit that arrow

Thanks,I had seen that Arrow and had tried to Click before but I guess I wasn't getting "aimed" just right. I found it and got it Going

Thanks again
post #1506 of 2465
As most of you all know there are ways to "get" movies Online. Has anyone ever tried to get a 3D movie in file format and play it though USB or Network drive? Or has anyone ever Ripped one of there own Blu Ray 3D DVDs to File format on a Computer and played it though your TV? If so does it produce 3D effects in the movie?
post #1507 of 2465
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Originally Posted by RonH54 View Post

As most of you all know there are ways to "get" movies Online. Has anyone ever tried to get a 3D movie in file format and play it though USB or Network drive? Or has anyone ever Ripped one of there own Blu Ray 3D DVDs to File format on a Computer and played it though your TV? If so does it produce 3D effects in the movie?

I play them off of my WD live streaming device,works great. As long as I download half-SBS format. Full SBS fails.
post #1508 of 2465
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Originally Posted by wynford View Post

I play them off of my WD live streaming device,works great. As long as I download half-SBS format. Full SBS fails.

Thanks for the info
post #1509 of 2465
There's a free program named Bino http://bino3d.org/ that can play and convert between many of the various formats. It can even output HDMI Frame Packed mode
post #1510 of 2465
Quote:
Originally Posted by RonH54 View Post

As most of you all know there are ways to "get" movies Online. Has anyone ever tried to get a 3D movie in file format and play it though USB or Network drive? Or has anyone ever Ripped one of there own Blu Ray 3D DVDs to File format on a Computer and played it though your TV? If so does it produce 3D effects in the movie?

I have downloaded some trailers, and demo's, loaded them on a USB hard drive and they work great.
Just be sure to download sbs 3d. you will probably have to tell the tv to switch to sbs when they start, it won't detect them.
It also won't play the audio if it is DTS.
post #1511 of 2465
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Originally Posted by HankHill View Post

I have downloaded some trailers, and demo's, loaded them on a USB hard drive and they work great.
Just be sure to download sbs 3d. you will probably have to tell the tv to switch to sbs when they start, it won't detect them.
It also won't play the audio if it is DTS.

I will probably try to get some trailers this weekend to test. When you said "tell the TV to Switch" how do you do that? Does screen come up with Options? Also I am just passing the Audio out from my TV and letting my AV receiver do the Audio processing to my Surround System. Will I still need to be sure not use DTS?

Thanks
post #1512 of 2465
Man alive,

I have been working my way through this thread....about 3/4 of the way. Awesome information of course.

Long story short.

Man tells wife "we need a new tv for the main floor."

Wife tells man "the 27" is fine"

Man *face to palm*"....Honey we can get one that does facebook"

Womans face shows the slightest hint of interest.

Man knows his trojan just found a breach in security measures.

...fast forward a couple weeks

Wife says, "I wouldn't want anything bigger than 40""

Husband incoherantly mumbles hoping that no agreement was infered from said mumbles.

....fast forward a couple days ago.

Husband finds 47LW6500 for 1135 cdn *a miracle worthy of a saint* and buys it.

Husband boldy informs his first lady of the manly decision he has made (after a rather pathetic and pleading value proposition pitch.

Wife caves...

....Husband acts like she actually had a choice (let her think she is the neck)

_____________________________________________________

Aside from the creepy fact that I just talked about myself in the third person, and made myself look rather pathetic doing it. I must say I came upon Passive 3D quite by accident. The TV was on sale for 1685 cdn. I just told the sales guy my budget wouldn't allow such a thing. He said that this TV is too good not to have and he will be doing me a favor and gives me the new price. Suddenly I find myself looking at getting a 3D TV and not a bottom of the barrel one at that. I was hoping for a 40" smart tv in around 900 cdn. I hadn't even pondered 3D, so fast forward to now, and I have just gotten me an edumacation on all things 3D. I was convinced of this TV the moment I laid eyes on it and the Passive thing is awesome. Active glasses make my face go numb. My eyes feel like they are being slowly sucked out of my head, I can't stand it and for this reason I have never considered 3D.

Anyhow, The salesman hands me these skinny little 3D glasses and I take them and look at him and say...."that's it?" he said yes....I thought "Cool". I tried it on and had my pre conceptions about 3D rocked to it's foundations. I have now rebuilt those foundations on a solid base of knowledge.

It's not often I am taken by surprise by any technology, nor introduced to it by a well meaning salesman who clearly had no intention of making a buck off of me that day. I am forced to conceed that God wants me to have this TV


Anyhow guys, I am so very happy to have found this TV.


A couple things I have noticed while reading this thread.


1) LG has said that the updated 3D firmware only works when truemotion is turned off. Meaning the improvement (that they say you get) will only work in that instance. Curious if they have changed it to work with true motion on now? I feel this is why there seems to be a variety of opinions on performance since you can easily and quite by accident disable these improvements.

2) the argument that Passive 3D is half HD frankly pisses me off. This is not factual. If you where to cut the monitors resolution in half it would literally be half 1920×1080 = 960×540. Obviously this isn't happening (at least on blu rays) It's display resolution in passive 3D is 1920×540. Simply put, a resolution of 1920×540 is not "half HD" as my simple math demonstrated. it only reduces resolution vertically. So perhaps it's more acurate to say it reduces resolution by 1/3 vs 1/2.

The reason I make this point is that everyone (not in the passive camp) seems to harp on this fact, but no one ever does the math, the penalty is never so onerous as throwing away half your resolution. Percieved resolution being an entirely different matter, these two technologies are excellent rivals, and even if for different reason, are certainly equals.

3) In various stores with the LG display (usually the 5600 model) along the left side in 3D there is a stripe maybe 1/8th of an inch that is clearly not on the same page as the rest of the screen. I am curious if this is a normal 3D artifact, or particular to that model, or simply wear from day in and day out of running.


Anyhow, I am pleased to join the ranks. (Too bad I can't open it until christmas....clearly I capitulated)

Cheers
post #1513 of 2465
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Originally Posted by wynford View Post


I play them off of my WD live streaming device,works great. As long as I download half-SBS format. Full SBS fails.

I play them from my WD live hub but there is a lot of ghosting, when I play the originals from the disc and there is very little ghosting but the ones I rip from original have to much ghosting same goes for the ones I downloaded. Anyone experiencing the something.
post #1514 of 2465
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Originally Posted by HankHill View Post


I have downloaded some trailers, and demo's, loaded them on a USB hard drive and they work great.
Just be sure to download sbs 3d. you will probably have to tell the tv to switch to sbs when they start, it won't detect them.
It also won't play the audio if it is DTS.

Where u get 3D trailers?
post #1515 of 2465
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Originally Posted by RonH54 View Post

I will probably try to get some trailers this weekend to test. When you said "tell the TV to Switch" how do you do that? Does screen come up with Options? Also I am just passing the Audio out from my TV and letting my AV receiver do the Audio processing to my Surround System. Will I still need to be sure not use DTS?

Thanks

TV won't pass DTS through, it will tell you audio not supported.
When you start to play video, take your motion remote curser to bottom of screen and a menu pops up, push 3d button, and another menu pops up, then
push sbs (side by side) I think it is second from the left.
I found a program that will convert DTS to a usable format
mkv2vob, which will change them to work with audio on PS3.
On hard drive they play perfect, trying to stream from laptop on Media streaming it is real slow and does a lot of stopping to load, I guess wireless not fast enough. From hard drive you can't tell from DVD.
post #1516 of 2465
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Originally Posted by Guayaco36 View Post

Where u get 3D trailers?

You need to Google 3D sbs videos.
They are several big downloads that you will have to unzip into one.
You will also probably need a premium account at one of the download sites or you will literally be there for days, but you can get a months premium account for about $10.00
post #1517 of 2465
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Originally Posted by HankHill View Post


You need to Google 3D sbs videos.
They are several big downloads that you will have to unzip into one.
You will also probably need a premium account at one of the download sites or you will literally be there for days, but you can get a months premium account for about $10.00

I will try the google search, I have downloaded some from the premium sites they all give horrible ghosting. Do u get lots of ghosting.
post #1518 of 2465
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Originally Posted by Guayaco36 View Post

I will try the google search, I have downloaded some from the premium sites they all give horrible ghosting. Do u get lots of ghosting.

Haven't had any ghosting.
post #1519 of 2465
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Originally Posted by HankHill View Post


Haven't had any ghosting.

Thanks for your reply. Its just weird that the original from bluray disc look so good and almost no noticeable ghosting but when ripping with dvdfab the have considerable ghosting and also I downloaded some movies and samething. Anyone with a suggestion out there? Maybe I have the wrong settings.
post #1520 of 2465
Guayaco36: Are you sure you aren't scaling any in your video card settings? For the pictures to line up correctly you can't be doing any adjustment of digital image size.
post #1521 of 2465
Quote:
Originally Posted by HankHill View Post

TV won't pass DTS through, it will tell you audio not supported.
When you start to play video, take your motion remote curser to bottom of screen and a menu pops up, push 3d button, and another menu pops up, then
push sbs (side by side) I think it is second from the left.
I found a program that will convert DTS to a usable format
mkv2vob, which will change them to work with audio on PS3.
On hard drive they play perfect, trying to stream from laptop on Media streaming it is real slow and does a lot of stopping to load, I guess wireless not fast enough. From hard drive you can't tell from DVD.

Thanks for info. Is there No way to go to Service Menu and make TV Pass DTS,if not I will get the mkv2vob program and give DTS conversion a try. Here is a problem I found on a Image file that maybe someone can explain. I have a 3D movie image file that has 2 audio tracks with Track 1 being English(default) and a Track 2 being French. When I play on my Computer with VLC player the default Track 1 plays English Audio but when I Stream to my LG the Track 2 French Audio is played as Default. With play on the Computer I can Right Click and have options for Audio and Subtitles changes but there no way I can see to make Options selections on a Streaming File on the LG. Does anyone have any knowledge of what causing this "different Audio being played as Default?

Thanks
post #1522 of 2465
Hello, new 55LW6500 owner. I'm happy with my new tv but I feel like I'm not getting the pop out effect when watching 3d blu-rays. I read in other threads that Step Up 3D and Under the Sea have lots of pop outs so I decided to purchase them. There are certain scenes in Step Up where I feel like they are supposed to be "in your face", like the scene where the kid pops the bubble and the Icee scene with the guy and the girl when the icee is supposed to be flying towards you.
The 3D resolution is very nice; just as good as those "full 1080p to each eye" active sets. And it looks like I'm watching the 3d through a window, but some pop out would be nice. I have a Monster high speed HDMI cable. Do I need to adjust my settings to get some pop out?
post #1523 of 2465
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Originally Posted by RonH54 View Post

Thanks for info. Is there No way to go to Service Menu and make TV Pass DTS,if not I will get the mkv2vob program and give DTS conversion a try. Here is a problem I found on a Image file that maybe someone can explain. I have a 3D movie image file that has 2 audio tracks with Track 1 being English(default) and a Track 2 being French. When I play on my Computer with VLC player the default Track 1 plays English Audio but when I Stream to my LG the Track 2 French Audio is played as Default. With play on the Computer I can Right Click and have options for Audio and Subtitles changes but there no way I can see to make Options selections on a Streaming File on the LG. Does anyone have any knowledge of what causing this "different Audio being played as Default?

Thanks

If you can figure out the how to turn on the DTS let me know. I've been through all options on the service menu.
post #1524 of 2465
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Originally Posted by HankHill View Post

If you can figure out the how to turn on the DTS let me know. I've been through all options on the service menu.

I can't see a way to Turn On DTS. I sent you a Private Message Hank about the mvk2vob program.
post #1525 of 2465
Guys .. thanks for all the great info @ LW6500 TV here - I recently bought a 55LW6500 and this thread has been a marvelous resource.

I am in the same situation like most others trying to hook up TV's optical output to my JVC TH-C50 HTiB receiver so I can get get 5.1 surround from all sources (TV, JVC DVD Player & Sony NSG-GT1 Google TV/BR Player).

I understood from discussion @ DTS that to access the service menu I need a universal remote - I have looked for deals on logitech harmony etc & realized its ~100 or more depending on which model I buy, so here is my question - do I need to buy a expensive remote just to enable DTS or do I have cheaper options ? I am doing ok with handling multiple remotes and may bite on a slickdeal for the remote in future but am wondering just to enable DTS are there any cheaper options I can go with for now ? Any help will be appreciated. (I have gone through the wiki on openlgtv but I couldn't narrow down to a remote option specifically for enabling DTS - its more about overall service menu access that I may not need)

Thanks in advance and appreciate all the info and help on this forum !
post #1526 of 2465
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Originally Posted by ywallet View Post

Guys .. thanks for all the great info @ LW6500 TV here - I recently bought a 55LW6500 and this thread has been a marvelous resource.

I am in the same situation like most others trying to hook up TV's optical output to my JVC TH-C50 HTiB receiver so I can get get 5.1 surround from all sources (TV, JVC DVD Player & Sony NSG-GT1 Google TV/BR Player).

I understood from discussion @ DTS that to access the service menu I need a universal remote - I have looked for deals on logitech harmony etc & realized its ~100 or more depending on which model I buy, so here is my question - do I need to buy a expensive remote just to enable DTS or do I have cheaper options ? I am doing ok with handling multiple remotes and may bite on a slickdeal for the remote in future but am wondering just to enable DTS are there any cheaper options I can go with for now ? Any help will be appreciated. (I have gone through the wiki on openlgtv but I couldn't narrow down to a remote option specifically for enabling DTS - its more about overall service menu access that I may not need)

Thanks in advance and appreciate all the info and help on this forum !

Several of us has accessed the service menu, and still don't see how to turn on DTS? Do you know how?
Thanks
post #1527 of 2465
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Originally Posted by HankHill View Post

Several of us has accessed the service menu, and still don't see how to turn on DTS? Do you know how?
Thanks

Generic instructions: http://harmonylghack.wikispaces.com/

Instructions for LW5600:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...4#post21261584

Exact Menu flow details:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...8#post21136128

More confirmation for LW5600:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...9#post21173769

List of remotes from above post:

http://www.newtvremotes.com/Mfrs/Zen...V/105-201M.htm

I thought this worked for LW6500 too in the same way but I may be wrong; I am still trying to find a way to get to the service menu.

Still waiting for suggestions for a cheaper way to access service menu - that remote list is huge ! TIA !
post #1528 of 2465
I used to be able to turn on 3D on homelink/Plex movies but just now press on the 3D button has no effect - no display of 3D menu option. On cable TV, 3D works. Any ideas? TIA.
post #1529 of 2465
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Originally Posted by quisp65 View Post

Guayaco36: Are you sure you aren't scaling any in your video card settings? For the pictures to line up correctly you can't be doing any adjustment of digital image size.

I have tried everything on dvdfab, default settings and some customs of my own but ghosting is so noticeable. Even the ones I have downloaded from those premium sites do the same its
Ike I can't concentrate on the movie because of the bad ghosting. I don't get almost any ghosting when I play my original 3D disc from my PS3 so it has to be something with the tv or the WD live hub. Anyone with advise would be greatly appreciated. If anyone has setting they do from DVD fab that would be great also. Thanks!!
post #1530 of 2465
I looked at the passive LG 3D the other day at Conn's (65"). They were showing a loop from Megamind, I think.

Anyway, while the 3D was quite wonderful, I saw these horizontal scan lines all the way up and down the screen, as if I was back watching DVDs on a regular old non-HD TV. While the resolution looked fine, the "scan" lines (or whatever they are) really disillusioned me. Was the TV improperly set up? Is this a characteristic of passive 3D?

Edit: I think I just found the answer to my question:

http://www.panasonic.co.nz/viera/gui...sive-3dtv.html

CNET 3D TV Review
A January 2011 Hands-on 3D TV review* by David Katzmaier and Matt Moskovciak, HDTV reviewers at CNET, agreed that the most obvious difference between Passive and Active 3D TV was their apparent resolutions. “We expected this difference because as…other purveyors of [2011] passive 3D TVs admit, the system they use halves the effective 1080p resolution, delivering only 540 lines to each eye”, said Mr Katzmaier. “We just didn’t expect it to be so obvious....it makes you appreciate how good 1080p to each eye looks”, he added. The Passive 3D method passes images through a polarising film, which typically results in a reduction in brightness and fine lines often appear on the playback image. The CNET review also confirmed the appearance of individual fine lines on the Passive 3D screen.

“In addition to [the picture] softness, you can actually see individual horizontal lines on the passive screen, and in bright, flat fields they were visible from as far as 12 feet”, said Mr Katzmaier. “For me these ‘scan lines’ did blend together and become less noticeable over time, but nothing of the sort was visible on the Panasonic”, he added.

- - -

I suspect I'll pass on this generation of passive 3D until they make the resolution equivalent to active, because these lines are a deal-killer for me, despite the better brightness and lightness of passive 3D glasses. But if the price of a good passive 3D TV is not much more than that of a 2D TV, then I may get the passive 3D TV and just not care if I do or don't watch 3D much; the kids will like it.
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