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post #241 of 2480
Don't quit, your respectful, passionate, rant on the pros and cons of passive vs active is helping so many of us who have'nt decided yet and is a wealth of info for those of uspondering a choice. So much strong honest light on the negative of each tech as well as the quantity of each tech plus references to future solutions,workarounds are so helpful to such an expensive toy and enjoyment centers for our families. I sure thank you all for auch a quality forum.thread
post #242 of 2480
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Originally Posted by jmj21grams View Post

Don't quit, your respectful, passionate, rant on the pros and cons of passive vs active is helping so many of us who have'nt decided yet and is a wealth of info for those of uspondering a choice. So much strong honest light on the negative of each tech as well as the quantity of each tech plus references to future solutions,workarounds are so helpful to such an expensive toy and enjoyment centers for our families. I sure thank you all for auch a quality forum.thread

This is a really nice post. It calms me down. I do enjoy a good give and take on things like this. There's always controversy. I remember Beta vs VHS. I went for Beta (ouch). PS3 vs Xbox 360, I went for PS3. Bluray vs HD DVD, I went for Bluray.

Fortunately in this case the winning format or machine doesn't cause the other one to be almost useless. We can all happily use what we choose. The media fortunately remains the same and can work for both types of displays.
post #243 of 2480
Beta too. I was the "smartest" guy at the hospital lol a 35", jvc $2500 '91 dollars just died looking at this threads lg models. Cool people (read helpful) have offered review sites that have helped me so would like to bring one to the table tho it is 5 weeks old. It called cnet/uk and they call our model lg lw650t.
post #244 of 2480
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Originally Posted by alexanderdx View Post

i have LG65lw6500
Some of you EXPERIENCED lag playing xbox 360?, I have experienced lag of a second -aprox- and it's disapointing, I have connected my xbox 360 via HDMI, I have tried changing resolutions in xbox 360 settings, but the problem continues.

sorry for the translation, do not speak English

alexander, I'm just passing on what I've read elsewhere, but in another LG LW5600 thread the claim has been made by at least two xbox 360 users that their lag issues were solved by the combination of:

- choosing "Game" mode, OR manually turning off both Tru-Motion and Local Dimming.

PLUS (and this is the controversial part) going into the Inputs screen, and for the input you are using for your Xbox, re-label it (or perhaps re-characterize it is a better term) as being a PC.

There has been some skepticism expressed about what possible effect there could be from what seems like a relabeling of the input. But more than one Xbox user has stated that this solved their issues - I think one even saw measurable improvements using the latency test that is built into the Rockband game. There has been some speculation that perhaps this is only pertinent to Xbox 360, and not PS3. It's possible that it turns off some processing, by putting the TV into "computer monitor" mode.....

In any case, I can't vouch for it personally. But I still think it is worth a try!
post #245 of 2480
OK, I just received the 55LW6500 a few days ago. Now this is really my first experience with an HDTV so I might not notice things that others do (I'm still not really sure what flashlighting and clouding is as an example). But my first impressions of this TV are very good. I think the 2D picture while watching a Blu Ray disc was incredible, (one caveat though, I didn't understand what soap opera effect was until now. Whoah! That was terrible!) I turned True Motion off for now and the movie looked better.

I have tried the 2D to 3D conversion and it is nice, definitely adds some depth, but I guess I would prefer to just watch the standard HD 2D picture. I have NOT tried watching true 3D yet as I don't have any 3D movies to watch.

The one thing that I was concerned with is with gaming with the XBOX 360. As I'm getting older, my sons play more games than I do nowadays, but I still didn't want any "lag" in the games. My older son was playing Halo Reach (while in standard mode) and he said that he didn't notice any lag. I then played with him in a firefight mode with Halo Reach and I DID notice lag so we switched it to game mode and it seemed to be much better. My younger son and myself played a bit on the Kinect and I didn't notice any lag so that's a plus. I still want to try Modern Warfare myself to test this.

A couple other tidbits with this TV. I love the interface with this TV, though I can't compare it to other TVs. Netflix works great and other than that at this point, LG apps is pretty weak, but I expect those apps to grow in time.

Overall, in just a short couple of days I am quite impressed with this TV.
post #246 of 2480
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Originally Posted by HDUDE View Post

OK, I just received the 55LW6500 a few days ago. Now this is really my first experience with an HDTV so I might not notice things that others do (I'm still not really sure what flashlighting and clouding is as an example). But my first impressions of this TV are very good. I think the 2D picture while watching a Blu Ray disc was incredible, (one caveat though, I didn't understand what soap opera effect was until now. Whoah! That was terrible!) I turned True Motion off for now and the movie looked better.

I have tried the 2D to 3D conversion and it is nice, definitely adds some depth, but I guess I would prefer to just watch the standard HD 2D picture. I have NOT tried watching true 3D yet as I don't have any 3D movies to watch.

The one thing that I was concerned with is with gaming with the XBOX 360. As I'm getting older, my sons play more games than I do nowadays, but I still didn't want any "lag" in the games. My older son was playing Halo Reach (while in standard mode) and he said that he didn't notice any lag. I then played with him in a firefight mode with Halo Reach and I DID notice lag so we switched it to game mode and it seemed to be much better. My younger son and myself played a bit on the Kinect and I didn't notice any lag so that's a plus. I still want to try Modern Warfare myself to test this.

A couple other tidbits with this TV. I love the interface with this TV, though I can't compare it to other TVs. Netflix works great and other than that at this point, LG apps is pretty weak, but I expect those apps to grow in time.

Overall, in just a short couple of days I am quite impressed with this TV.

Hi HDUDE

could you (or any other LW6500 owner) please do me a favor? I just entered this post because I urgently need to answer similar question as the originator posted:

could you please check the rear label on your TV for power supply specs?

product advertise in specs on LG site universal 100-220V voltage, but LG customer service can not confirm that. They don't want to be held accountable regarding moving TV's to Europe, they just don't guarantee anything.

Despite that, universal power supplies is a very common thing for electronics, as computers, etc. should not be a big deal in my opinion.

I'd like to buy this TV and bring it with me to europe. I'm using it as a PC monitor (HDMI). Yesterday I saw a 5600 on a store and the rear sticker ONLY said 100V ! despite official specifications.

thank you
post #247 of 2480
Congrates hdude hope your family ennoys what I've been reading is an awesome 3d passive display your newb observations are valued by those of us looking for excellence foy our families also enjoy.
post #248 of 2480
hi guys,well yesterday i get the 55LW6500,and well for my bad luck i must say,this tv DONT LOOK BETTER than our 2 year old SONY KDL-52Z5100,after spend all day trying some settigs and well we have 2 ps3 so we put both tv together for can see the difrence and that is,my 2 year old sony have more vibrant a nice colors that this "LD PLUS 2011" new tv!!! how this can be possible guys?? i mean the SONY KDL-52Z5100 have more than 2 years old and only have 100.000:1 contrast ratio,this lg have 9.000.000:1 and dont looks better!! actually dont even same like the sony,well my wife look both sets together,and she note like how our 2 years old sony looks better!!
now i have a mitsubishi 82837,the 3d in this lg looks nice,but not "blowing away" in comparation with this old dlp tv!!
post #249 of 2480
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Originally Posted by rschleicher View Post

alexander, I'm just passing on what I've read elsewhere, but in another LG LW5600 thread the claim has been made by at least two xbox 360 users that their lag issues were solved by the combination of:

- choosing "Game" mode, OR manually turning off both Tru-Motion and Local Dimming.

PLUS (and this is the controversial part) going into the Inputs screen, and for the input you are using for your Xbox, re-label it (or perhaps re-characterize it is a better term) as being a PC.

There has been some skepticism expressed about what possible effect there could be from what seems like a relabeling of the input. But more than one Xbox user has stated that this solved their issues - I think one even saw measurable improvements using the latency test that is built into the Rockband game. There has been some speculation that perhaps this is only pertinent to Xbox 360, and not PS3. It's possible that it turns off some processing, by putting the TV into "computer monitor" mode.....

In any case, I can't vouch for it personally. But I still think it is worth a try!

thank you very much rschleicher for the tip, helped me a lot, now I have no lag in games, thanks
Greetings
post #250 of 2480
i am wondering are the viewing angles for lw6500 better than lw5600 3dtv or not?
post #251 of 2480
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Originally Posted by EAGLE-1 View Post

hi guys,well yesterday i get the 55LW6500,and well for my bad luck i must say,this tv DONT LOOK BETTER than our 2 year old SONY KDL-52Z5100,after spend all day trying some settigs and well we have 2 ps3 so we put both tv together for can see the difrence and that is,my 2 year old sony have more vibrant a nice colors that this "LD PLUS 2011" new tv!!! how this can be possible guys?? i mean the SONY KDL-52Z5100 have more than 2 years old and only have 100.000:1 contrast ratio,this lg have 9.000.000:1 and dont looks better!! actually dont even same like the sony,well my wife look both sets together,and she note like how our 2 years old sony looks better!!
now i have a mitsubishi 82837,the 3d in this lg looks nice,but not "blowing away" in comparation with this old dlp tv!!

I posted that this display needs isf calibration from a professional or enthusiast that is equivalent. The settings someone posted from a review site doesn't carry over well onto the 65LW6500.

I'm leaning towards believing CNET reviews as long as they use the KM CS-2000 spectra for evaluation moving forward for sets I have not seen in person.

Sorry to hear about your experience. It mirrors my Samsung LN55A950 experience.

Once the set is calibrated the tv is acceptable to me. However; I'm still left wanting more from a HDTV.
post #252 of 2480
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Originally Posted by Jim HTPC View Post

I posted that this display needs isf calibration from a professional or enthusiast that is equivalent. The settings someone posted from a review site doesn't carry over well onto the 65LW6500.

I'm leaning towards believing CNET reviews as long as they use the KM CS-2000 spectra for evaluation moving forward for sets I have not seen in person.

Sorry to hear about your experience. It mirrors my Samsung LN55A950 experience.

Once the set is calibrated the tv is acceptable to me. However; I'm still left wanting more from a HDTV.

yes i read about the calibration,but how is possible that i mean with both tv settings out of the box,the sony have 2 year old,and 100.000:1 contrast,this lg is brand new led plus with 9.000.000:1 !!! i mean the most logical thing is that see a great difrence between then!!! very disapoint, this was my first time with lg tv and is my last too!! i will sell this tv and wait for sony launch their passive bravia!!!
post #253 of 2480
Hey eagle1..1+ what jimhtcp said.. ya know your wife is correct sony has an excellent set. If sony goes with a lg passive panel like you say..wow that might be awesome(should be awesome) but comparing a higher tier sony with the entry level lg( no disrespect in intent) that really is apples and oranges. And sonys possible use of lg' passive panel tech could be interpreted as more of a roar then a whisper but if mamas not happy no.o.o.bodys gonna be.
post #254 of 2480
Edit: my apologies l misread your model number you have the middle tier.. so you are 100% right ..they should be closer on pq ..again I will now take my foot out of my mouth..
post #255 of 2480
but,still dont get it, i mean how is possible that the sony have 2 year old,and 100.000:1 contrast,this lg is brand new led plus with 9.000.000:1,why the sony look more brilliant?? and the colors looks more deeper too!!!!
post #256 of 2480
Eagle,
Sounds like you have not set the video up to your preferences yet. The "Out of Box" settings are pretty rough, but reducing the back light and getting close to a calibrated setting, even using the wizard makes a HUGE difference. If the back light is over about 50%, it washes out the colors and contrast. Also remember that someone else's settings may not reflect the same on your panel, so what looks good on one will not necessarily look good on another.

vegggas
post #257 of 2480
Eagle respectful suggestion..there are a couple world class reviewers one from france and the other from the Netherlands who tout lga nano tech as "plasma" black with vivid colour space and con.tr)ast with out blooming that I would like to see before l pull the trigger as I just love samsungs picture blacks gamma colour space contrast. But I would prefer lgs) excellent( to me) passive 3d if the nano tech can pop ...bla bla bla like afore mentioned fanboy yakkity yak on said panel. Have both. Fingers crossed plus eye(pun intended 3d) but your idea sounds good too ..the passive sony, l mean
post #258 of 2480
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Originally Posted by jmj21grams View Post

Eagle respectful suggestion..there are a couple world class reviewers one from france and the other from the Netherlands who tout lga nano tech as "plasma" black with vivid colour space and con.tr)ast with out blooming that I would like to see before l pull the trigger as I just love samsungs picture blacks gamma colour space contrast. But I would prefer lgs) excellent( to me) passive 3d if the nano tech can pop ...bla bla bla like afore mentioned fanboy yakkity yak on said panel. Have both. Fingers crossed plus eye(pun intended 3d) but your idea sounds good too ..the passive sony, l mean


For those willing to pay more, when the LW9800 series comes out, it should be very nice. I'm not sure when these will start selling, but have heard the latter part of this summer. I also seem to think that they will start out with 47" and 55", not sure when bigger ones are due.

This is basically the "redefined" 9500 series. The LW9800 has the so-called Nano display, with full-backlit LEDs, but with the passive-3D FPR film ("Cinema 3D"). It will have the same pros and cons in terms of its 3D behavior, as other passive-3D sets. But in terms of basic picture quality, it should be outstanding. And without the flashlighting and other issues that edge-lit LED sets can have. On the other hand, I would expect it to be pretty pricey...

Someone ("nony") posted a link to the product brochure, over in the LCD Displays sub-forum, within the "2011 LG lineup" thread.

There has been a lot of confusion surrounding the 9x00 series, since new 9500 series sets were originally announced as being active-shutter 3D, but then LG basically went "all in" on passive 3D (at least for their LCD product line), and "redefined" the LW9800 as passive. But in some non-US markets they also seem to be going ahead with selling 9500 sets without 3D. It's hard to follow....
post #259 of 2480
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Originally Posted by rschleicher View Post

For those willing to pay more, when the LW9800 series comes out, it should be very nice. I'm not sure when these will start selling, but have heard the latter part of this summer. I also seem to think that they will start out with 47" and 55", not sure when bigger ones are due.

This is basically the "redefined" 9500 series. The LW9800 has the so-called Nano display, with full-backlit LEDs, but with the passive-3D FPR film ("Cinema 3D"). It will have the same pros and cons in terms of its 3D behavior, as other passive-3D sets. But in terms of basic picture quality, it should be outstanding. And without the flashlighting and other issues that edge-lit LED sets can have. On the other hand, I would expect it to be pretty pricey...

Someone ("nony") posted a link to the product brochure, over in the LCD Displays sub-forum, within the "2011 LG lineup" thread.

There has been a lot of confusion surrounding the 9x00 series, since new 9500 series sets were originally announced as being active-shutter 3D, but then LG basically went "all in" on passive 3D (at least for their LCD product line), and "redefined" the LW9800 as passive. But in some non-US markets they also seem to be going ahead with selling 9500 sets without 3D. It's hard to follow....

The 9800 looks to be a very strong set, I may have to look into getting one come the fall...
post #260 of 2480
is this tv good for dark room or bright room?
post #261 of 2480
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Originally Posted by EAGLE-1 View Post

but,still dont get it, i mean how is possible that the sony have 2 year old,and 100.000:1 contrast,this lg is brand new led plus with 9.000.000:1,why the sony look more brilliant?? and the colors looks more deeper too!!!!

The 65LW6500 isn't top of the line. If you want something that might be able to beat Sony is LG's new Nano Coated models. Unfortunately they have Active 3D so it ruled it out for us.
post #262 of 2480
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Originally Posted by Jim HTPC View Post

If you want something that might be able to beat Sony is LG's new Nano Coated models. Unfortunately they have Active 3D so it ruled it out for us.

Really? Spec sheet posted says Cinema 3D.
post #263 of 2480
This, to me is excellent information coming from danville ca. And looking forward to goatlantern and rschleicher projection on nano tech info. I need the vibrant pop, black, colour, and contrast with gamma control of even the 6000series samsung translated into lgs nano even lighting full array led passive atom bomb for our familyy entertainment center. Or wait qho knows how long for rsz uggh a year?? And another sequencial lcant spell it display experiment....lg nano now!!! And I hope you guys are right just pure viberant electricity pop, contrast, color, and wow is that to much to ask? And about that fish in the demo I tried to tickle its chin the clerks laughed so loud I forgot I where I was..that fish was really specular(actual word, sorry for the show off of the new word l learned lts not something I can use everyday in a sentence couldn't resist...lol
post #264 of 2480
Thank you for the nano info as you can see it kinda excited me.
post #265 of 2480
Can you guy hear your kids and grandkids giggles when that fish swims into the room is that wake up being alive or what...
post #266 of 2480
You guys were right just got back from demark(via the inet of course) and has been confirmed by flatpanelhd lg is releasing passive nano. 3d as you say end of august.news 6/15 Netherlands for lg.
post #267 of 2480
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Originally Posted by jmj21grams View Post

You guys were right just got back from demark(via the inet of course) and has been confirmed by flatpanelhd lg is releasing passive nano. 3d as you say end of august.news 6/15 Netherlands for lg.

If that is the case, wished we had known. Would have waited. Information we had was that nano would have active glasses. Hopefully the nano sets will be better performers.
post #268 of 2480
Help. question. do any of you who understand such things,( technology ,) will a panasonic dmr bwt800 work in north america? (here) thank you..
post #269 of 2480
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Originally Posted by EAGLE-1 View Post
hi guys,well yesterday i get the 55LW6500,and well for my bad luck i must say,this tv DONT LOOK BETTER than our 2 year old SONY KDL-52Z5100,after spend all day trying some settigs and well we have 2 ps3 so we put both tv together for can see the difrence and that is,my 2 year old sony have more vibrant a nice colors that this "LD PLUS 2011" new tv!!! how this can be possible guys?? i mean the SONY KDL-52Z5100 have more than 2 years old and only have 100.000:1 contrast ratio,this lg have 9.000.000:1 and dont looks better!! actually dont even same like the sony,well my wife look both sets together,and she note like how our 2 years old sony looks better!!
now i have a mitsubishi 82837,the 3d in this lg looks nice,but not "blowing away" in comparation with this old dlp tv!!
Hi Eagle, SAME PROBLEM HERE!

I received my LG 47LW4600 yesterday and I'm very disappointed with the picture quality.

My previous TV was a 3 year old LG 42 LCD, on specs totally inferior to that new model, and picture was more vivid and bright!

I can notice the pixel grid as well, specially on solid colors, and PC screens look horrible because of that. Even from a respectable distance from the TV. Very disappointed.

This is one more evidence that people sometimes get s simple placebo effect when reading product specifications and technologies.

Yes, is a super cool LED, has 9.000.000:1 c.r. and my old LCD had better picture!


I have been playing with all settings, no great results. Please if any of you could recommend specific video settings I would appreciate.

By the way, the Inteligent Sensor in this TV, which was perfect in the old one, rather to intelligent seems to be pretty stupid, and when the room is dark, puts the TV ridiculously dark as well, I can not leave video mode that way. What a piece of crap...

What happened here???
post #270 of 2480
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Originally Posted by VictorGarcia View Post


Hi Eagle, SAME PROBLEM HERE!

I received my LG 47LW4600 yesterday and I'm very disappointed with the picture quality.

My previous TV was a 3 year old LG 42 LCD, on specs totally inferior to that new model, and picture was more vivid and bright!

I can notice the pixel grid as well, specially on solid colors, and PC screens look horrible because of that. Even from a respectable distance from the TV. Very disappointed.

This is one more evidence that people sometimes get s simple placebo effect when reading product specifications and technologies.

Yes, is a super cool LED, has 9.000.000:1 c.r. and my old LCD had better picture!

I have been playing with all settings, no great results. Please if any of you could recommend specific video settings I would appreciate.

By the way, the Inteligent Sensor in this TV, which was perfect in the old one, rather to intelligent seems to be pretty stupid, and when the room is dark, puts the TV ridiculously dark as well, I can not leave video mode that way. What a piece of crap...

What happened here???

If you hate the TV that much, why would you keep it?
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