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post #301 of 2463
Anyone know of a good review of the 2d features of the 47LW6500 ( blu ray, tv and dvd playback)?
post #302 of 2463
None of the specs show whether this is totally backlit with local dimming or side lit.

Question answered:

S--t: Edge lit! No wonder it's only 5,000,000:1!

Specs: LED-LCD, 65 in, 1080p, 240 Hz, LED Backlight technology, `Edge Light' with local dimming, Smart TV with NetCast and Web browser

Pulled the trigger! Hopefully this was a wise move?
post #303 of 2463
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Originally Posted by p5browne View Post

None of the specs show whether this is totally backlit with local dimming or side lit.

Question answered:

S--t: Edge lit! No wonder it's only 5,000,000:1!

Specs: LED-LCD, 65 in, 1080p, 240 Hz, LED Backlight technology, `Edge Light' with local dimming, Smart TV with NetCast and Web browser

Pulled the trigger! Hopefully this was a wise move?

Pretty sure it's 120hz for the 65". I saw the 55" at Best Buy the other day...the 3d was great. Passive is definitely the way to go for me. I do not like active 3d. I see a dimming effect every time I move my head. It was also nice to see every other 3d set not have any glasses available unless you asked a salesperson, but they had a box of about 30 passive glasses sitting right near the LG. I'm planning to get the 65" in a few weeks.
post #304 of 2463
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Originally Posted by E-JTL View Post

Pretty sure it's 120hz for the 65". I saw the 55" at Best Buy the other day...the 3d was great. Passive is definitely the way to go for me. I do not like active 3d. I see a dimming effect every time I move my head. It was also nice to see every other 3d set not have any glasses available unless you asked a salesperson, but they had a box of about 30 passive glasses sitting right near the LG. I'm planning to get the 65" in a few weeks.

First it appeared that this was an edge lit panel - now the new specs I saw said backlit. Wonder if I got the deal due to vendor dumping the edge lits for the newer backlits? Specs are confusing! 480HZ only required for Active 3D?
post #305 of 2463
Don't be confused with LED edgelit backlighting as compared with CCFL edge lit backllit with LED full array non edge backlit.
post #306 of 2463
Does anyone know if it is a full version of IE vs some watered down app that can't download Active X?
post #307 of 2463
Quote:
Originally Posted by p5browne View Post

None of the specs show whether this is totally backlit with local dimming or side lit.

Question answered:

S--t: Edge lit! No wonder it's only 5,000,000:1!

Specs: LED-LCD, 65 in, 1080p, 240 Hz, LED Backlight technology, `Edge Light' with local dimming, Smart TV with NetCast and Web browser

Pulled the trigger! Hopefully this was a wise move?

102-7825715-######### - Order was Accepted at my Ship to Address with shipping dates given. No negative responces received, so sold my old TV when I got the chance, expecting the new LG 65LW6500 would soon grace my doorstep! Now, several days later, you turn around and CANCEL my order! So now, no old TV, and no New TV coming - thanks a lot Amazon!!!!!
When purchased, clearly stated International Shipping, 5 in stock and given delivery dates despite having given a Canadian Ship to Address - now no stock! Go to Vendor's website - in stock for next day delivery!

New stipulation - have to drive to the US to pick it up - not allowed to export
post #308 of 2463
Has anyone found where to buy the LSW600B or have you bought a universal from another vendor? Seems to be hard to find a bracket for this TV on first glance. Thanks.
post #309 of 2463
Ordered one from Amazon (65 incher). I'll let you know how it goes when I get it next week.
post #310 of 2463
You ordered the mounting bracket from Amazon? Which one?
post #311 of 2463
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Originally Posted by brdhowell View Post

You ordered the mounting bracket from Amazon? Which one?

No, I ordered the tv from Amazon. I have a three shelf stand with swivel tv mount from SAMs Club that I'm going to mount it on.
post #312 of 2463
Right. I am looking for the correct mounting bracket. I just ordered the TV from Amazon as well but need a mounting bracket which Amazon doesn't seem to have.
post #313 of 2463
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Originally Posted by brdhowell View Post

Has anyone found where to buy the LSW600B or have you bought a universal from another vendor? Seems to be hard to find a bracket for this TV on first glance. Thanks.

I found my LSW400BG mount on eBay, but sold as a new, in-the-box product by an eBay store, rather than from an individual. I think I only paid $58 for it (buy it now price), with free shipping. What was strange was that the vendor also has their own online website, where they were selling it at the same time for $79.99. Other online prices for the 400 size were even higher, all the way up to $149 (which I wouldn't have paid). The problem with getting an LSW600B this way is that I think it is much less prevalent. But it would be worth a search.

FWIW, I'm pretty happy with my mount, and like how it operates (with tilt up and down, as well as a bit of side-to-side, and also the ability to pull everything away from the wall by 8" or so). It was also very easy to mount the TV, as well as do some fine-adjust of the leveling.

The two disadvantages of LG's design are that 1) they only fit one size of VESA spacing (400x400 in my case, 600x400 in the LSW600), so they may not work with a different TV, down the road. 2) any outlets or plates you put in for in-wall wiring, need to be either above or below the mount, or to one side, as there is no "hollow area" in the middle. This is not really an issue, unless you need to go to a different mount down the road.

In the end, I probably would have been just as well-served with a more generic tilt-mount from Monoprice, but given the low price I paid for the LG mount, I'm quite happy with it.
post #314 of 2463
any of you own the LG55LW5600 model? I was originally going with a sony active 3D set but saw this demoed today and was blown away at the 3D quality...looked amazing (descpicable me). I was not able to see any 2D so that has me curious if it looks just as good as a sony or samsung. I also felt the glasses were more comfortable to wear and if my kids break them...not to bad to replace
post #315 of 2463
It'll be July tomorrow. Is LG still releasing that new firmware in July that adjusts the 3D scan pattern? Has anyone heard anything more about that?
post #316 of 2463
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Originally Posted by sundevil75 View Post

any of you own the LG55LW5600 model? I was originally going with a sony active 3D set but saw this demoed today and was blown away at the 3D quality...looked amazing (descpicable me). I was not able to see any 2D so that has me curious if it looks just as good as a sony or samsung. I also felt the glasses were more comfortable to wear and if my kids break them...not to bad to replace

I've got one, and have been very happy with it. BTW, there is a dedicated thread for the 55LW5600 series over in the "LCD Flat Panel Displays" forum, in the Display Devices area. 75 pages or so....
post #317 of 2463
Here is a link to the owners thread
post #318 of 2463
I ordered a Samsung pn64d7000 and when the tv arrived it had a massive crack from one end of the screen to the other and no replacements in stock and that tv is now under review for problems. I have to send everything back including the "free" bluray player, starter kit, and 2 extra glasses. I am no longer patient and decided to order the 65lw6500 along with a panasonic 3d player and the lg 5 year warranty. I will let everyone know how it is. Tv should arrive wed. July 6.
post #319 of 2463
Toddgabweg , great.. I read that 55" show the weakness and shortcomings of the technology more then the "excellent" pq of the 47" well had to see, as I would prefer larger 55"... there was a 65" vizio on display.. no 2d to 3d or depth and parallax control. And the picture was amazing on bluray. Absolutely drop dead gorgeous ... I'm reconcidering... it was huge... I think you will be happy with the quality
And contrast, color, and pq of your set. I couldn't believe the awesome pictures on this size panel.. ah.h. this 540 1/2 rez on this technology? ? Wwait 'til you see .. you can follow the math or sit down stunned by the gorgeous beautiful picture. No dim, ghosting flickering... sharp detailed.. amazing .. help me talk myself into this size lg. . let us all know the good, bad and ugly of your lg. How a picture this humongous can look so awesome, in "1/2 rez" I think reviewers are more technology. Detailed then visceral. Really enjoy. Toddgabweg.
post #320 of 2463
Just got my 65LW6500 today. I got an awesome deal through a vendor on Amazon. I am very unhappy to report that is has a GLOSSY screen. The main reason I chose this one over the Vizio was that it was supposed to have a matte screen. We all know this really should be a LW5600. Are LW5600's glossy and LW6500's matte? I guess it is too late now! I have waited over 5 years for the latest tech, first it was LED, then it was Internet, then Passive 3D. I can't imagine waiting any longer for matte screen in the 65+ size class, that would have full LED backlighting. I know one is scheduled in DEC, but just my luck it will be glossy too!

I will give everyone an update on my impressions after it is mounted, and I get to enjoy some 3D.
post #321 of 2463
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Originally Posted by LucidLight View Post

Just got my 65LW6500 today. I got an awesome deal through a vendor on Amazon. I am very unhappy to report that is has a GLOSSY screen. The main reason I chose this one over the Vizio was that it was supposed to have a matte screen. We all know this really should be a LW5600. Are LW5600's glossy and LW6500's matte? I guess it is too late now! I have waited over 5 years for the latest tech, first it was LED, then it was Internet, then Passive 3D. I can't imagine waiting any longer for matte screen in the 65+ size class, that would have full LED backlighting. I know one is scheduled in DEC, but just my luck it will be glossy too!

I will give everyone an update on my impressions after it is mounted, and I get to enjoy some 3D.

I was warned it was Glossy, but mine is going into my dim basement theatre system, and the Glossy might be a plus in this case!
post #322 of 2463
Glossy? Wow, I thought it was matte, too. Mine will be here next Thursday. Sad if true.
post #323 of 2463
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Originally Posted by E-JTL View Post

Glossy? Wow, I thought it was matte, too. Mine will be here next Thursday. Sad if true.


I am worried too... why would this be the only glossy LG passive? I may have to return this set... my family room has too much light that I can't control...
I was never interested in the Vizio because of the glossy finish...
post #324 of 2463
It's a MATTE screen, looking at it right now.

I really wanted to love this TV. I was at Best Buy and saw the passive 3-D on display and was completely blown away, I also loved the fact that this is one of the few televisions released by any manufacturer this year that has a matte screen, I have lots of large windows in my den and I can't deal with the glossy mirrors that Sony, Samsung and Panasonic insist on releasing.

The problem with this television, and what is just about inherent in all LCD and LED technology, is the bleeding of light around the edges, MURA (clouding and flashlights) and terrible uniformity of white light on black screens. I uploaded a photo to see: the backlight was all the way down to 30, brightness and contrast were brought down and the LED dimmer was turned on and off (made no difference), and there is terrible light leaking around the edges, and in the bottom right corner some terrible blooming. During the day this is acceptable, but at night it's very distracting and annoying, especially when watching a dark movie like Apocalypse Now or The Dark Knight. My first LCD TV in 2007 had the same exact problem, and I'm amazed manufacturers can release these units with such poor uniformity. I am by no means a videophile, but if I'm spending $2k of my hard earned money, I don't want a television that has light leakage issues.

So I decided to return this unit, get some black out curtains and just bite the bullet and buy a Panasonic plasma VT30 for $500 more, same 55" size. When I receive it I'll do a comparison, I've come to the conclusion that glossy screens and probably plasma technology in general are going to give a better picture with deeper blacks and none of these issues. Maybe one day they will figure out to overcome this issue, but for anyone who watches TV at night, it's a deal breaker.
LL
post #325 of 2463
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Originally Posted by rschleicher View Post
alexander, I'm just passing on what I've read elsewhere, but in another LG LW5600 thread the claim has been made by at least two xbox 360 users that their lag issues were solved by the combination of:

- choosing "Game" mode, OR manually turning off both Tru-Motion and Local Dimming.

PLUS (and this is the controversial part) going into the Inputs screen, and for the input you are using for your Xbox, re-label it (or perhaps re-characterize it is a better term) as being a PC.
I have a 55LW6500 and went through calibration in guitar hero in a variety of situations. Here were my results:

Xbox 1080p@60 game mode, ~75ms lag
Xbox 1080p@60 game mode with input labeled PC, ~75ms lag
Wii 480p game mode, ~120ms lag
Wii 480p game mode with input labeled PC, ~120ms lag
Wii 480p game mode with sidebars instead of squashed, ~120ms lag

I didn't see any difference from labeling an input as PC. The Xbox is able to output to the display's native 1080p, but 75ms lag remains. It occurs to me that I never checked the sound settings, so it's possible auto-volume was on and introducing some lag (though I'd hope game mode would turn off everything that causes lag). I have a 32" 1080p Sharp that I use for gaming and it's virtually lag free for both xbox and wii.
post #326 of 2463
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Originally Posted by ChristianZane View Post
It's a MATTE screen, looking at it right now.

I really wanted to love this TV. I was at Best Buy and saw the passive 3-D on display and was completely blown away, I also loved the fact that this is one of the few televisions released by any manufacturer this year that has a matte screen, I have lots of large windows in my den and I can't deal with the glossy mirrors that Sony, Samsung and Panasonic insist on releasing.

The problem with this television, and what is just about inherent in all LCD and LED technology, is the bleeding of light around the edges, MURA (clouding and flashlights) and terrible uniformity of white light on black screens. I uploaded a photo to see: the backlight was all the way down to 30, brightness and contrast were brought down and the LED dimmer was turned on and off (made no difference), and there is terrible light leaking around the edges, and in the bottom right corner some terrible blooming. During the day this is acceptable, but at night it's very distracting and annoying, especially when watching a dark movie like Apocalypse Now or The Dark Knight. My first LCD TV in 2007 had the same exact problem, and I'm amazed manufacturers can release these units with such poor uniformity. I am by no means a videophile, but if I'm spending $2k of my hard earned money, I don't want a television that has light leakage issues.

So I decided to return this unit, get some black out curtains and just bite the bullet and buy a Panasonic plasma VT30 for $500 more, same 55" size. When I receive it I'll do a comparison, I've come to the conclusion that glossy screens and probably plasma technology in general are going to give a better picture with deeper blacks and none of these issues. Maybe one day they will figure out to overcome this issue, but for anyone who watches TV at night, it's a deal breaker.
After having gone through the same experience with another LG side lit, and now reading your telling us LG still hasn't fixed the side lit problem, I've pulled the pin on my order. There's too much hassel and travel involved to get the set, (Which I assume had a fantastic PQ, but with problems!) get it home, and find the same issues! It would drive me crazy, just like the first I purchased. (At least the Vendor paid the shipping to take it back, and didn't involve me and a lot of driving!) Once again thanks -I think you just saved me a lot of grief!
post #327 of 2463
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Originally Posted by ChristianZane View Post
It's a MATTE screen, looking at it right now.
I don't know what to tell you. I can post pics when I am back at home. I can make out my pores in it's glossy mirror finish. I even took a look at my finish on my computer monitor which is definitely matte. If there are 2 versions of this TV, I am sending this one back.
post #328 of 2463
My 55LW6500 is matte, the 65" size may be glossy.

p5browne yea the bleeding is bad, maybe I got unlucky, I dunno, but it's noticeable in all 4 corners, with the MURA clouding on the bottom right. I luckily bought mine from Amazon with my Prime Shipping and they have a 30 day free return with two way shipping, my VT30 arrives the same day the shippers pick up the LG. I've just given up on LCD/LED technology, I was weary of plasmas for burn-in issues/sound and energy inefficiency but all those issues have been resolved finally over the years, plasma sales are up 6% this year, LCD/LEDs are down 3%... I just bought this for the matte screen but I've given up on matte screens and will just deal with the glossy screens, which have improved a lot as well in terms of not reflecting ambient light.

But this LG unfortunately suffers from MURA and poor light uniformity, it's too bad because I love the 3D on this unit which is amazing, no crosstalk, no eye strain, nothing. The SD on this TV stinks however, even when properly calibrated, the HD is just ok. Ah well :\\
post #329 of 2463
Well I lowered every setting all the way down: brightness, backlight, contrast, dimmer, turned off dynamic contrast settings and you can still see that awful MURA in the bottom right corner... I tried loosening the screws on the back of the unit a little to no avail. Bleeding went away a little on left side, but still bad on right side... Back to LG it goes.
LL
post #330 of 2463
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Originally Posted by ChristianZane
Well I lowered every setting all the way down: brightness, backlight, contrast, dimmer, turned off dynamic contrast settings and you can still see that awful MURA in the bottom right corner... I tried loosening the screws on the back of the unit a little to no avail. Bleeding went away a little on left side, but still bad on right side... Back to LG it goes.
Bad batch or all they all like this?
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