LG PASSIVE LW6500 dedicated thread... - Page 3

Originally Posted by poppabk

Retail stores don't know crap about setting up 3D, they have only recently even got close to showing good HD on their sets, so it is probably less conspiracy and more ineptitude. Most active shutter displays aren't even working if you try them out.

Originally Posted by Bill

The Vizios don't do 2D to 3D.

Originally Posted by sadcaper

Has there been any update as to the release timeframe of these models? Or even the 65" 5600 series? Could be awhile for either and I'm itching to upgrade!

Originally Posted by clapple


Our Best Buy, as of yesterday (April 5), doesn't even have a passive 3D set up. They said, "a week or so." But didn't really seem interested.

Originally Posted by magi1500

Do any of these sets (5600, 6500, the Toshiba with local dimming that was just mentioned) have a matte screen?

Thx.

Originally Posted by clapple

Our Best Buy, as of yesterday (April 5), doesn't even have a passive 3D set up. They said, "a week or so." But didn't really seem interested.

Originally Posted by rschleicher

FWIW, Crutchfield is showing both the LG 55LW6500, and if I remember right, also the 55LW9500 on their site (described as having the passive-3D), with "pre-order" status. (With the 55LW5600 of course being already available.) I didn't look at other sizes, though.

My own 55LW5600 is ordered from another vendor, and should show up by early next week. (The BD-670 Blu-ray player that was part of the bundle is showing up separately, supposedly on Saturday.)

As for ghosting with the LG passive 3D, I agree with twdll's and CureMode's comments, above. You definitely get ghosting if there is significant vertical angle (i.e., you are well above or below the perpendicular). So at the BestBuy where I saw the 55LW5600, you had to crouch/squat to get down to roughly eye-level, since the TV was sitting pretty low. I had known that this was a drawback of LG's passive 3D, and as I intend to put my set above a fireplace mantel, it was potentially a big concern for me. I'm going to use a tilt mount, which will make things exactly perpendicular to the main viewing/seating location. But I didn't want it SO sensitive that the angle was going to be critical. My impression at Best Buy was that you could still be 10 degrees or perhaps a bit more above or below the perpendicular, without ghosting becoming an issue. So if anything it was less sensitive to vertical angle than I thought it might be, going in. That said, anyone mounting one of these sets at well above eye-level should plan on using a tilting mount. (On the other hand, the set is very forgiving of side-angle viewing.)

As for the visibility of horizontal lines (in 3D mode), I was able to get about 6 feet away, and for me that was enough to no longer see the lines (which can be easily seen if you are only a few feet away). I have seen other reports where others (with better eyesight than me, perhaps) say that you want to be more like 7-8 feet away. So for people who like to be really close, this may not be the best choice, either.

Originally Posted by levy07

how is 3d in half resolution? I hear there are noticeable scan lines with this set. Thanks.

Originally Posted by frviana

I got my 47 LW5600 last week. Really enjoying the TV. I love the 3D options available with it.

2D->3D conversion as well as the options to play 3D videos that are displayed on side by side, interpolated etc... this is a big plus as it allows 3D from other sources to play well.

The 3D depth is as good as the active shutter TVs I saw with the big plus that I don't have to remember to charge batteries or spend a fortune when the lenses gets scratched.

I personally feel the passive glasses much easier on my vision and allows me to watch a full movie in 3D without headaches however, playing Killzone 3 on my ps3 is another story, fantastic 3D but due to the high amount of motion I can't play it in 3D for an extended period of time (45min top).

The applications are really nice and my favorite features and apps are:
Netflix
VEVO (got 3D rental now)
DLNA (UPNP)
USB HDD connection.

Regarding the USB connection I have tried many different type of formats and while it can play pretty much everything including MKV, the audio codecs are limited and it won't play DTS or Dolby TrueHD.

I got 2 3D movies in MKV format and one I converted the audio from DTS to AAC and it played great.

The TV has also a Digital (fiber) audio output. I tested and it worked fine but I don't think it is passthrough and when I tried playing the MKV with DTS audio and had the audio output connected to my receiver it didn't work.

By the way, if anyone has been able to manage playing MKV with DTS or Dolby TrueHD audio on the TV player please let me know what you did. I'm very interested in finding out.

Hope my short review helps people on their decision. If you have any questions I can try to answer.

Originally Posted by bontrager

Saw this set yesterday at BB. Viewing at the correct angle as commented above I did not notice any ghosting or horizontal line at a distance of only 4' IN THE 3d MODE. HOWEVER I WAS ONLY CONCENTRATING ON THE HATED "GHOSTING" ISSUE.

Originally Posted by walford

A saw one report where a user could not even get a tilted passive model to work over a fireplace unless the watcher's heads were also tilted back so that the screen and the glasses were totally parallel to each other.

Originally Posted by bontrager

Saw this set yesterday at BB. Viewing at the correct angle as commented above I did not notice any ghosting or horizontal line at a distance of only 4' IN THE 3d MODE. HOWEVER I WAS ONLY CONCENTRATING ON THE HATED "GHOSTING" ISSUE.

It's much brighter than my Panasonic GT25 Plasma and may consider selling my Panny Plasma now for this set.

Originally Posted by rschleicher

Not sure what to make of that - when I was demoing the LG 55LW5600 at Best Buy, I didn't notice any sensitivity to the vertical angle of my head. (I.e., no need to try and keep the front surface of the glasses parallel to the TV screen). The reason that you can't be too far above or below the screen perpendicular is that the polarizer film on the screen has alternating rows of clockwise and CCW circular polarizations, and these have to be lined up with the alternating rows of the image. But in the glasses, each lens is uniformly coated with it's polarization type. So I don't see why the vertical angle of the glasses would be important.

One thing I did try was cocking my head to the side. LG makes a point in their advertising that with the passive technology you don't have to sit upright, and can lay on the sofa, etc. And it is true that the 3D effect is not diminished with moderate amounts of tilting your head to left or right. However, the 3D content is created with an assumed horizontal orientation of your eyes. So regardless of 3D technology, you still have to have a reasonable amount of horizontal separation between your two eyes for the 3D effect to work. (In other words, the glasses will pass the screen image even if they are at right angles to the normal viewing position, but the 3D effect will still go away.)

Active glasses have a separate issue - the LCD shutters in each lens only pass one polarization of light, that must be aligned with the polarization passed by the LCD screen of the TV. So if you hold the active glasses at right angles, you don't see anything. (Just like what happens if you hold one set of polarized sunglasses in front of another set, with the two sets of glasses at 90 degrees from each other.) And non-trivial amounts of tilt will cause some degree of darkening.

My wife called me this morning to say that our 55LW5600 set was just delivered. So I'll have more time to play with it over the next few days....

Originally Posted by 230-SEAN

Anyone notice that the LG site has removed everything related to these new models? Not even model number search on the site gives you info, it acts like they don't exist. You think its maintence to the site or is LG pulling out of this?

-Sean