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post #691 of 729
Thanks! I appreciate It.

Regards!
post #692 of 729
"Well...if you went multiple times to service center, they are the ones that can tell you the problem and the solution!! have the unit 6 months and never had issues....thank GOD ! but like i said before in europe there seems to be much less quality issues....the batch that came to the US was defective...most of them that is why many could but it a 100 USD...whereas in europe it sold for 250 euros at the end of its life....325USD !!!!!!!!!!!"

Wow why does this make me laugh anyways i got mine in the U.S for 135$ new at newegg, mine is around 1.5 years old or so. And regardless to what hometheater says i owned the Yamaha RX-V371 and honestly it ran hot on just Polk monitor T15's and a powered sub(had a cheap 10 inch polk sub) had decent sound but i think the Pioneer was clearer and had cleaner sound in general and that was with those same speakers and before i even used MCACC.


With 315 watts or so with All channels driven with 0.1% distortion (according to hometheater with the pioneer 821-k) and MCACC the only other receiver i would even consider at this price range(250$ or less) is a denon since they use separate amps for each channel. But it looks like even the denon lacks on some features that this pioneer has such as dolby pro logic which i thought was easily in every 5.1 receiver.

Looks like for cheap i'm a pioneer guy and for 550$ and up i'm a pioneer guy with their class D3 amps i can get a Pioneer SC-1222-K for just 500$ which is something i'll be getting in a year or so.
post #693 of 729
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Originally Posted by jdowne04 View Post

nenito2k i know sound is subjective but i feel you definitely won't have to turn the treble up on the monitor 70's my friend has cheap paper tweeters and a 4 inch mid driver with his 12 inch woofers and he likes his bass at +2 and treble at +2. Me i just let MCACC do its thing(and it does it quite well except for the DB ratings per channel) and gave in and bought a sub and i love the way it sounds now plenty of clean bass with nice mids and high's.


"Hi Guys!

Bought my 521k for about 7months ago, and I've already been constantly bringing it to our service center because of DC Errors. Anyone encountered that in their AVR? I don't know what causes it to shut ff completely (activate the auto protection mode) anyone can enlighten me on this issue? I've been talking to some store owners and they're telling me that maybe my speakers are causing it. Btw, I bought the klipsch HD500 set along with this AVR."

Not an expert but i would guess it could be the speakers if there's something wrong with them it happened to me before and also make sure you have the speakers hooked up right(-,+) and also make sure no wires are touching each other which can cause the receiver to shut off, also check if you can with a multimeter to make sure you voltage is right at the wall.

Thanks for the reply sir! I think my speakers are working fine but I'll double check the wirings. And most of the time it will shut off in the middle of a movie! Not sure if there are compatibility issues with my speakers though ( not a techie person).
post #694 of 729
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Originally Posted by dimensia03 View Post

Thanks for the reply sir! I think my speakers are working fine but I'll double check the wirings. And most of the time it will shut off in the middle of a movie! Not sure if there are compatibility issues with my speakers though ( not a techie person).
I've just had a look at the specs of your Klipsch HD500 speakers, and they are 8 Ohm speakers - which is what the Pioneer VSX 521K should be happy with.

So there's no reason to suspect they won't be compatible - speakers are so simple, they can't really be "faulty". They either work fine, or sound-like-crap/don't-work-at-all - I suppose there is some chance you have an internal short in one of the speakers - perhaps the vibrations are causing a loose wire to touch somewhere it shouldn't.

Your best bet is to try some different speakers - they don't need to be a matched set, just borrow a few random speakers from friends and set them up and see what happens - if you still have issues, then you know your Pioneer is faulty.
post #695 of 729
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Originally Posted by Nomgle View Post

I've just had a look at the specs of your Klipsch HD500 speakers, and they are 8 Ohm speakers - which is what the Pioneer VSX 521K should be happy with.

So there's no reason to suspect they won't be compatible - speakers are so simple, they can't really be "faulty". They either work fine, or sound-like-crap/don't-work-at-all - I suppose there is some chance you have an internal short in one of the speakers - perhaps the vibrations are causing a loose wire to touch somewhere it shouldn't.

Your best bet is to try some different speakers - they don't need to be a matched set, just borrow a few random speakers from friends and set them up and see what happens - if you still have issues, then you know your Pioneer is faulty.

Ok sir will do! Thank you for the replies!
post #696 of 729
Ok 2 questions for PS3 owners & this amp:
1 - CDs: I have my ps3 music settings set to 44/88/176. Whenever I play an audio CD I can not get bass out of the subwoofer. All my speaker sizes are set to small, I have to check my crossover settings - but for movies and games sounds great. Can anyone point me in the right direction as far as amp settings to tweak.( I think I see the answer is to use bass plus)

2 - Dolby and DTS in games: When watching blurays and dvds, the Dolby and DTS signals bitstream and the receiver displays which codec is in play, eg DTS HD, however when I play games the receiver does not display any codec, as if the PS3 is decoding and sending LPCM, but the receiver does not display LPCM either. I can certainly hear the surround audio, but would preffer the receiver to do the decoding, anyone else have this issue? and what is the fix?

also I noticed that when I rund auto setups on the PS3, I have to then go in and uncheck all 7.1 audio options or else I lose sound information.
post #697 of 729
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Originally Posted by coneyparleg View Post

Ok 2 questions for PS3 owners & this amp:
1 - CDs: I have my ps3 music settings set to 44/88/176. Whenever I play an audio CD I can not get bass out of the subwoofer. All my speaker sizes are set to small, I have to check my crossover settings - but for movies and games sounds great. Can anyone point me in the right direction as far as amp settings to tweak.( I think I see the answer is to use bass plus)

2 - Dolby and DTS in games: When watching blurays and dvds, the Dolby and DTS signals bitstream and the receiver displays which codec is in play, eg DTS HD, however when I play games the receiver does not display any codec, as if the PS3 is decoding and sending LPCM, but the receiver does not display LPCM either. I can certainly hear the surround audio, but would preffer the receiver to do the decoding, anyone else have this issue? and what is the fix?

also I noticed that when I rund auto setups on the PS3, I have to then go in and uncheck all 7.1 audio options or else I lose sound information.


answer 1: i have the same settings and have bass on all tracks !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! it has nothing to do with x-over....i just put pure direct mode on the amp and there is bass !!! are you even sure your lfe cable is connected ?

answer 2: dude...of course the AVR displays DTS/Dolby on games !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you seem not to know how to use your ps3 ! just put your console to direct stream and not PCM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! it is logical !

hope this helps


on a side note my current cables are 22awg....do i need to updgrade to at least 16awg ? will there be a difference with this low end amp ?
post #698 of 729
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Originally Posted by nenito2k View Post

answer 1: i have the same settings and have bass on all tracks !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! it has nothing to do with x-over....i just put pure direct mode on the amp and there is bass !!! are you even sure your lfe cable is connected ?

answer 2: dude...of course the AVR displays DTS/Dolby on games !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you seem not to know how to use your ps3 ! just put your console to direct stream and not PCM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! it is logical !

hope this helps


on a side note my current cables are 22awg....do i need to updgrade to at least 16awg ? will there be a difference with this low end amp ?
dude no need for snark. First my sub is connected and works fine for everything except audio cds on the ps3. Second if you read my post you'd know that bitstream (there is no direct stream) is set otherwise the hd codecs for blurays and such would not make it to the amp. The display on the amp shows this, but shows nothing for games (most games I think street fighter 4 shows dolby on the amp display.)
post #699 of 729
sorry for that dude....this is not normal !!!!!!!! my only guess would be for you to go to the sound menu of ps3 and disable ALL audio codec except dolby digital....this WILL force the avr to receive DD and display it on screen...if that does not work...it may be that your house is haunted eek.gif
post #700 of 729
Hi everybody.

I bought Pioneer VSX 521 K a couple of months ago and still cannot tell that I am a proud user. Actually, I replaced my old Pioneer VSX 100 (slim receiver) which served me for years without a single problem, the reason for change was just a luck of hdmi and HD video output. Sound was just excellent, with DTS and Dolby decoders.

This is my equipment:
Pioneer 521 K
B&W S 300 subwoofer
B&W 685 front speakers
Xonum surround and central speakers
LG TV 5500
Benq projector MP720p
WD TV live
Nintendo WII
LG 3D BD player
Cisco HD TV receiver

I do have a problem with Pioneer VSX 521 K, trying to solve it for a months, without success.

When I try to watch TV, sometimes, but not always, I have no sound. I change a sound source, everything, and I found out that only radio works and only in "pure direct" mode. Sometimes sound come later, sometimes not. Sometimes I switch off receiver and switch it on, and after couple of seconds I hear silent "click" and everything works. Sometimes, but not always, when everything works just fine, I change a TV channel and on other channel I have no sound. Sometimes sound comes with a minute delay, sometimes it does not come at all. Everything, so far, seems like "sometimes". I feel like I am depending on receivers mood.

When I watch movie from my WD TV Live player most of the time I do not have problems. But.... sometimes... when I use Youtube player on my WD TV... and I play one song, it comes all right. Second song, my Pioneer tries to recognize sound source again, and give me no sound... And if I play a playlist when someone comes to visit me, my new receiver is tantalizing me, because of "sometimes"...

I think that he is struggling to recognize sound source with variable success.

Also, my LG BD player cannot be displayed on my BENQ projector despite HDMI in the receiver and HDMI out to the projector. My WD TV live works just fine with same connections?! My Cisco HDTV receiver is working fine with component cables but picture is jumping (maybe is protected) when I switch to HDMI source.

My biggest problem is that my previous VSX 100 worked everything within a milisecond, I wasnt thinking of such stupidity at all. He had no HD video connections but everything he had worked like a charm.

Is there any solution (cables, voltage, settings) or I have to admit to myself that I made a mistake with purchase of VSX 521 K?
post #701 of 729
well many of 521 owner has some kind of trouble....but why on earth did you buy it if you have read this thread ??? there are many AVR 100 times better than this for 20-50 usd more...
anyway, if you activated CEC on your devices (aside from satellite/tv box that do not really support cec...) you should be fine...also i hope you enabled hdmi control on the 521...

if so it must be like 90% of owners....a bad unit in some kind....
post #702 of 729
Thanks for replying Nenito, you didnt make me happy with answer, but thanks. Just to answer for purchasing, I did not red this thread before buying smile.gif I was conviced that Pioneer made some improvements from begining of 2000 when I bought VSX C100, which worked brilliantly for years. I am sorry now for selling that wonderful receiver. I looked at the No of connections at the back panel and I didnt had any doubts about Pioneer engeneering capabilities. Yes, I was loyal to Pioneer, until now.
post #703 of 729
How do I use the 7.1 ch pre-out on my VSX 521k? What kind of device do I need? Please help. Thanks!
post #704 of 729
You need additional receiver. Connect cables from back of your VSX-521 marked as "surround back/front height" to input of additional receiver. Connect 2 speakers to additional receiver, than enable speakers on Pioneer settings.
post #705 of 729
Does this amplifier passes through internet/lan via the 1.4 HDMI and are there any firmware upgrades for it?
Thank you.
post #706 of 729
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Originally Posted by venejo View Post

Does this amplifier passes through internet/lan via the 1.4 HDMI and are there any firmware upgrades for it?
Thank you.

Who told you this unit had internet & LAN ??? you must be on pills or something.... biggrin.gif
post #707 of 729
Help me please, I have a 4 month old vsx-522 and was unhooking speakers then it shutoff on its own. Now when I turn it on it stays on for 5 seconds shuts off leaves a light on screen that looks like 4 small boxes ,squares , two on top to on bottom. that happens everytime unless I scroll through the sources with the left knob. Also can't do a hard reset, holding band and power with it off does nada, lost receipt please help
post #708 of 729
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Originally Posted by dgoldbach View Post

Help me please, I have a 4 month old vsx-522 and was unhooking speakers then it shutoff on its own. Now when I turn it on it stays on for 5 seconds shuts off leaves a light on screen that looks like 4 small boxes ,squares , two on top to on bottom. that happens everytime unless I scroll through the sources with the left knob. Also can't do a hard reset, holding band and power with it off does nada, lost receipt please help

like said many many times on this forum....pioneer AVR's have reliability issues...many owner have had what your are experiencing...the device is out, contact pioneer warranty service...
post #709 of 729
Don't think they will warranty it because I lost the walmart receipt, it stays on while its on mute....... its like a speaker wire terminal is shorted, any ideas why I can't hard reset it?
post #710 of 729
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Originally Posted by dgoldbach View Post

Don't think they will warranty it because I lost the walmart receipt, it stays on while its on mute....... its like a speaker wire terminal is shorted, any ideas why I can't hard reset it?

Hi dgoldbach, if paid by credit card you can try using the statement as proof.

For reset use the Band and Standby/On buttons on the receiver, not the remote.

With the receiver off, try pulling the power cord and hold the Standby/On button for a few seconds. Then reconnect the power cord and power up the unit.

Don't if this works but with the receiver off, try holding down "Display" and the "Preset Down" buttons (or "Dimmer" and the "Preset Down" buttons) together for about 5 seconds and see if it powers on.
post #711 of 729

Hi, why my receiver shut down when i connect my pc to it with hdmi??  If i connect hdmi straight to tv the sounds works great with tv speakers, but if turn receiver on and try to get sound thru my receiver its not working. Sorry my bad english :(

post #712 of 729
Need some help please people I've just setup my 521 and after a heap of stuffing around I've got the surround sound working on everything ( setting it up on the pc was a nightmare ) now the sound is out is there anyway to change the settIng or something? Thanks in advance
post #713 of 729
I found the sound delay and is 6.0 out is there any reason that the sound is out so far??
post #714 of 729
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Originally Posted by paulpsi View Post

I found the sound delay and is 6.0 out is there any reason that the sound is out so far??
Try running the auto calibration again. Those figures are set by the Pioneer when you go through the setup routine with the microphone.
post #715 of 729
I've tried that heaps I've got it down to 2.0 out by setting the auto delay
post #716 of 729
Okay this is really starting to drive me crazy I need to adjust the sound delay for everything something's are 2.0 some 2.5 ect has anyone else had this problem or know how to fix it?
post #717 of 729
There's supposed to be a delay. The idea is that the delay makes all the sound reach you at the same time - because each speaker is a different distance from your head. There's a delay on the closer speakers, to allow the sound from the further speakers to travel.

Note that these delays are super tiny.
post #718 of 729
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Originally Posted by Nomgle View Post

There's supposed to be a delay. The idea is that the delay makes all the sound reach you at the same time - because each speaker is a different distance from your head. There's a delay on the closer speakers, to allow the sound from the further speakers to travel.

Note that these delays are super tiny.

Why would I need to change it manually all the time? Eg I'll watch something through the computer it'll be set to 2.0 watch a movie on the ps4 it'll be 5.0 watch tv I'll be 3.5 put it back to the computer and it'll be 3.0 ect
post #719 of 729
My lounge room is about 6m x 8m and there is speakers in each corner would the size of the room have anything to do with it? When I auto set it I put the mic in the middle of the room and go through the setup process and the speakers set to 4.4m each
post #720 of 729
I don't really understand what the problem is.
You only ever need to do the calibration once - it listens to the speakers, works out how long the sound takes to arrive at your ear (where the microphone is), and sets the delay.
That's it - the delay never changes, and you don't need to recalibrate unless you move your room around. It shouldn't change.

What problem are you having exactly ?
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