or Connect
AVS › AVS Forum › Display Devices › LCD Flat Panel Displays › Official Samsung UNXXD6000 Owners' Thread
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Official Samsung UNXXD6000 Owners' Thread - Page 84

post #2491 of 3067
Quote:
Originally Posted by waazup View Post

Just got this mounted and wanted to share

Great job, how did you conceal the wires?
post #2492 of 3067
Quote:
Originally Posted by D Bone View Post

My 60" 6420 is a F301 panel, made in October 2011 and is almost flawless.

I have an H301 from July and I have no issues
post #2493 of 3067
Quote:
Originally Posted by HFD071 View Post

Hello all,

I am a long time lurker. After reading an absolute ton of posts (due diligence is done lol), I purchased the 65". I bought the TV and had Mr. MKANET's setting in my hand to re-calibrate (and I thank you!). However, the options offered on my menu do not reflect the option shown on MKANET's settings. Could anyone please produce their settings? I am a rookie when it comes to calibration and I would enjoy viewing what you see as the best picture possible. I'm not adverse to hiring a professional but, if I can get help here, why spend the money without asking you good people first?

Thank you,
Philip

Hi, HFD071,

You'll probably have better luck posting this in Official Samsung UNXXD8000 Owners' Thread as this is the UNXXD6000 thread ...

Hope this helps.

OldAKGuy
post #2494 of 3067
Quote:
Originally Posted by MancidRilk View Post

I have a version H302 and am experiencing severe flashlighting in all 4 corners as well as moderate clouding, does anyone know which version or panel is the best to look for in a replacement?

Most members seem to favor the H30X panels. I have an H302 made in October 2011 and I would say the flashlighting is minimal and I notice no clouding. Here is what I have noticed:

- Settings can make a huge difference. Don't crank up the backlight. Try various picture adjustments. I noticed that a darker picture, like the default Movie mode, exacerbates the flashligthing. I use the ECO feature to dim the picture in low-light conditions (with a minimum backlight of 6), and I have Dynamic Contrast on Medium and Shadow Detail on -1 for most viewing and it works very well.

- It may take time to diminish the flashlighting. I don't know if this is true, but others have mentioned that it can help to give it some time. If the store gives you a 30-day return option, give it a few weeks. I bought my D6000 as an open-box item, and I rarely notice the flashlighting. It will always be there. So if you just can't stand it, even at very low levels, then you will not want an edge-lit LED.

- Off-angle viewing will exacerbate the problems. Don't sit at extreme angles from the TV. All LCD's, and therefore LED's, suffer from this issue, some more than others. Again, I noticed that adjustments can make a HUGE difference. If the colors are dull and the backlight is low (Movie mode), the picture degrades more off-angle. That's my estimation anyway.

Now, you can adjust the Movie mode to get over these issues. So experiment. I didn't mean to harp on the Movie mode, but it was so far off of my tastes that I actually based my settings off of Standard mode, which I thought was closer to my overall preferences, day or night.
post #2495 of 3067
Well, I too am going back to BB today to replace my THIRD TV (D6420). Two 3" bright bands run horizontally across the screen, plus the right side edge is much brighter than the rest of the panel. This is the 2nd H302 (12/2011) panel BTW. If I have to run though a dozen Sammy panels in order to get a TV that is watchable (I'm not asking for perfection) I'll do it.
post #2496 of 3067
Quote:
Originally Posted by J.Mike Ferrara View Post

Well, I too am going back to BB today to replace my THIRD TV (D6420). Two 3" bright bands run horizontally across the screen, plus the right side edge is much brighter than the rest of the panel. This is the 2nd H302 (12/2011) panel BTW. If I have to run though a dozen Sammy panels in order to get a TV that is watchable (I'm not asking for perfection) I'll do it.

Don't turn away a H301, I got mine a week ago and it looks great.
post #2497 of 3067
Quote:
Originally Posted by balla01 View Post

Don't turn away a H301, I got mine a week ago and it looks great.

That would depend on where you bought it, when it was made and where it shipped from. The sets I returned were all H301's, dated January 2012, shipped from Best Buy's Eastern distribution centre in Mississauga, ON.

Just as a follow-up to my earlier comments, I'm very happy to report that I at last have a defect-free Samsung UN40D6000! I drove to a different Best Buy this time, who were way friendlier and more helpful than the staff at the other location. I picked out a CN02 unit dating from December 2011, tested it out in the store and sure enough, it's fine. As a further warning about the Canadian BB H301's, I had an interesting experience yesterday in the BB where I did the latest exchange, which has further convinced me that some/all of their H301 stock may be defective.

I was standing in front of the UN40D6000 floor model with a Home Theatre associate. He expressed surprise at the amount of trouble I was having with defective Samsungs, stating that there hadn't been any other returns. He went on to say that their floor model, which he said had been on display for close to a year, was without flaw and that BB would never put defective TV's out on the floor because it "looked bad". I stared at the TV for a moment. Same thin gray line, same size, same spot on the display panel. I pointed it out to the HT associate, he looked shocked. I looked on the back of the TV and, sure enough, it was an H301. Which brings to 6 the total number of defective H301 UN40D6000's I've seen at Best Buys.
Quote:
Originally Posted by MancidRilk View Post

I have a version H302 and am experiencing severe flashlighting in all 4 corners as well as moderate clouding, does anyone know which version or panel is the best to look for in a replacement?

Flashlighting/clouding has been reported with mid-2011 D6000's (check Amazon if you don't believe me), however Samsung seems to have addressed some of those problems through firmware updates. So I would check that you have the latest firmware installed before you decide whether or not to return the set. I will say my own model CN02 set does have some of the same problems but honestly, they're only visible on a solid black screen, which is tolerable for me. Keep in mind, flashlighting on edge-lit LED sets is a fairly widespread phenomenon, and by no means limited only to the D6000.
post #2498 of 3067
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fuzzy Dunlop View Post


That would depend on where you bought it, when it was made and where it shipped from. The sets I returned were all H301's, dated January 2012, shipped from Best Buy's Eastern distribution centre in Mississauga, ON.

Just as a follow-up to my earlier comments, I'm very happy to report that I at last have a defect-free Samsung UN40D6000! I drove to a different Best Buy this time, who were way friendlier and more helpful than the staff at the other location. I picked out a CN02 unit dating from December 2011, tested it out in the store and sure enough, it's fine. As a further warning about the Canadian BB H301's, I had an interesting experience yesterday in the BB where I did the latest exchange, which has further convinced me that some/all of their H301 stock may be defective.

I was standing in front of the UN40D6000 floor model with a Home Theatre associate. He expressed surprise at the amount of trouble I was having with defective Samsungs, stating that there hadn't been any other returns. He went on to say that their floor model, which he said had been on display for close to a year, was without flaw and that BB would never put defective TV's out on the floor because it "looked bad". I stared at the TV for a moment. Same thin gray line, same size, same spot on the display panel. I pointed it out to the HT associate, he looked shocked. I looked on the back of the TV and, sure enough, it was an H301. Which brings to 6 the total number of defective H301 UN40D6000's I've seen at Best Buys.

Flashlighting/clouding has been reported with mid-2011 D6000's (check Amazon if you don't believe me), however Samsung seems to have addressed some of those problems through firmware updates. So I would check that you have the latest firmware installed before you decide whether or not to return the set. I will say my own model CN02 set does have some of the same problems but honestly, they're only visible on a solid black screen, which is tolerable for me. Keep in mind, flashlighting on edge-lit LED sets is a fairly widespread phenomenon, and by no means limited only to the D6000.

Whoops, I have a H302, made July 2011.
post #2499 of 3067
Quote:
Originally Posted by balla01 View Post

Great job, how did you conceal the wires?

Thanks! I did a horizontal concealment through 3-4 studs in wall for the TV. I don't know if you notice, but there is a small piece of masking tape horizontally just above the fireplace to the right. That'll be patched up soon with drywall and finishing, and painting. For the TV, everything is in-wall.

For the speakers, I also got everything fished in-wall, then taken out from the bottom end which was fished sideways but covered by a thin white strip just above the baseboard (you can somewhat see it in the picture).
post #2500 of 3067
I know what my C6xx there were pronounced differences in how the panels (or I guess version(s) on the D Series) performed. The CN panels had better viewing angle I believe and the SQ panels had the best blacks and colors with minimal or no flash lighting. Don't remember the AU panel strengths and weaknesses but the CN panel had the most pronounced flash lighting.

My question is, do we know about any similar strengths/weaknesses of different D6xxx panels/versions?

If anyone else has an H302 or H306 (which are the only versions available at my local BB) please let me know your image quality impressions.
post #2501 of 3067
Quote:
Originally Posted by waazup View Post


Thanks! I did a horizontal concealment through 3-4 studs in wall for the speaker. I don't know if you notice, but there is a small piece of masking tape horizontally just above the fireplace to the right. That'll be patched up soon with drywall and finishing, and painting. For the TV, everything is in-wall.

For the speakers, I also got everything fished in-wall, then taken out from the bottom end which was fished sideways but covered by a thin white strip just above the baseboard (you can somewhat see it in the picture).

Wow, that sounds like a ton of work. Fishing through studs is no joke lol. Great setup!
post #2502 of 3067
I had a December made H panel I think it was an H301 but don't remember now.. it was H30 something anyway... it had some obvious flashlighting and clouding but with the settings people have here it was not noticeable unless I was looking at a black screen and even then it was.... tolerable... I never really noticed it with the 12 backlight setting ... but some of the colors were a bit weird so I've been tweaking it since I got it early january...


Well... the other night I was playing with the settings and did a service menu factory reset so I could start fresh and apply some of the settings people use here...

after the reset the screen when to a crazy pinkish red hue..... much like you see when a computer monitor with VGA cables is slightly loose... another reset seemed to fix it... so I figured no harm no foul...

then I tried some settings but didn't care for them... did the reset again so I could try someone else's settings and after the reset it came back on but this time the display was upside down....


it literally looked like someone had mounted my TV upside down... everything including the menus were upside down.... it did reset the color and everything... but the upside down thing was strange..


So I said screw it and took it back to Best Buy today...

I now have a CN02 screen made in November 2011

I have to say even with the factory settings it looks good.. the flash-lighting and clouding I had even minimally was nonexistent now... and the colors seem to be a bit more natural..

I'll see how it is in the coming weeks but so far so good!!!


So does anyone know where and who makes the panels that samsung uses??

I know on the monitors there was a crap-shoot issue with their 226bw screens... they went from a Korean made excellent screen (forget the number) to a not as good Taiwan made but fairly easily adjustable through the bezel buttons to get a nice picture... screen... then they went to a crappy chinese made C panel screen... you couldn't adjust it to get a perfect picture unless you also run a color profile on the computer... It was still ok as far as I am concerned.... but it was a problem... I also had to rip mine apart and solder in some great Japanese Capacitors when the crap chinese ones died prematurely and killed my screen



So... this had me wondering who makes which LED screen for these TVs

maybe I am lucky now that I have a good CN02 screen and unlucly when I had a bad H301 screen.... but I was just curious as to where these are made
post #2503 of 3067
Quote:
Originally Posted by MancidRilk View Post

I know what my C6xx there were pronounced differences in how the panels (or I guess version(s) on the D Series) performed. The CN panels had better viewing angle I believe and the SQ panels had the best blacks and colors with minimal or no flash lighting. Don't remember the AU panel strengths and weaknesses but the CN panel had the most pronounced flash lighting.

My question is, do we know about any similar strengths/weaknesses of different D6xxx panels/versions?

If anyone else has an H302 or H306 (which are the only versions available at my local BB) please let me know your image quality impressions.

I have an H302 and have great picture. I've had it for about a week, haven't noticed any bleeding or flash lighting. Every once in a while motion gets really choppy and almost slows down the picture. Not sure what that's from, could be my cable feed.
post #2504 of 3067
I will be Exchanging my d6000 for the last time tomOrrow crossing my fingers. If i have issues again im switching to sony!
post #2505 of 3067
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zokambaa View Post

...
maybe I am lucky now that I have a good CN02 screen and unlucly when I had a bad H301 screen.... but I was just curious as to where these are made

Hi, Zokambaa,

The CN02 is produced by Chi Mei.

Because of the panel lottery mayhem of earlier models Samsung went to a generic "H" designation, but the panel will be made by Samsung, Chi Mai, or AUOptronics.

Hope this helps.

OldAKGuy
post #2506 of 3067
How do I access these settings on my UN46D6900? They are always grayed out on my tv. I am connected via HDMI1/DVI, any help is greatly appreciated.
post #2507 of 3067
Aah yeah I thought so... but it looks better than the H panel I had as far as the backlight bleed goes... not sure about the color yet though... and the image seems like it isn't quite as sharp as the H one I had but that may just be the content I've been viewing tonight...

I wish Samsung went back to only producing screens with their own panels again... those ones always had a better quality to them over the chinese made ones... I'd pay an extra $50 if I knew I would get a Japanese or Korean made screen over a Taiwan or china made one...


Quote:
Originally Posted by OldAKGuy View Post

Hi, Zokambaa,

The CN02 is produced by Chi Mei.

Because of the panel lottery mayhem of earlier models Samsung went to a generic "H" designation, but the panel will be made by Samsung, Chi Mai, or AUOptronics.

Hope this helps.

OldAKGuy
post #2508 of 3067
Quote:
Originally Posted by OldAKGuy View Post

Hi, Zokambaa,

The CN02 is produced by Chi Mei.

Because of the panel lottery mayhem of earlier models Samsung went to a generic "H" designation, but the panel will be made by Samsung, Chi Mai, or AUOptronics.

Hope this helps.

OldAKGuy


Where is my F301 made at?
post #2509 of 3067
Quote:
Originally Posted by solo_clipper View Post

So, nobody else here is using wireless?

Tried the wireless and hated it.. now I run a LAN cable to the TV...


The issue I found was that unless I set my router to HIDE my SSID it disconnects right after I try to use it... the system like any LAN device lets you manually configure the setup for a hidden SSID and I can connect but seconds later it disconnects

If I set my router to BROADCAST my SSID it connects fine

I live in a condo so I do not choose to let everyone in range see my router's SSID as that is a security issue... so, I won't be using my wireless... but it does work as long as the router ssid is broadcast

I have a router that does gig speed LAN so it will always be faster than wireless anyway
post #2510 of 3067
Quote:
Originally Posted by balla01 View Post

How do I access these settings on my UN46D6900? They are always grayed out on my tv. I am connected via HDMI1/DVI, any help is greatly appreciated.

Any help?
post #2511 of 3067
Quote:
Originally Posted by balla01 View Post

Any help?

I believe the TV has to be receiving a signal that the setting can work on for it to be active. For Film Mode, I believe the signal has to be an interlaced film being transmitted using 3:2 pulldown. An example would be a movie playing from a TV source, not from a blu ray at 1080p. Search these Samsung threads for a more complete answer.
post #2512 of 3067
Quote:
Originally Posted by dfp View Post

I believe the TV has to be receiving a signal that the setting can work on for it to be active. For Film Mode, I believe the signal has to be an interlaced film being transmitted using 3:2 pulldown. An example would be a movie playing from a TV source, not from a blu ray at 1080p. Search these Samsung threads for a more complete answer.

I figured out the Film Mode, you are right it has to be an interlaced signal. I searched for info on the HDMI Black Level and have little to no success. I can access it when I change the input to my PS3, but its greyed out when im watching TV.
post #2513 of 3067
Quote:
Originally Posted by balla01 View Post

I figured out the Film Mode, you are right it has to be an interlaced signal. I searched for info on the HDMI Black Level and have little to no success. I can access it when I change the input to my PS3, but its greyed out when im watching TV.

There is provision on some devices to send a lower level of black signal than that used in TV transmissions. The HDMI Black level allows you to be able to receive it. I believe the PS3 can do this, however AVS members are discussing whether it's a fat PS3 or not on the D7000 or D8000 threads. Check out those threads.
post #2514 of 3067
Quote:
Originally Posted by dfp View Post

There is provision on some devices to send a lower level of black signal than that used in TV transmissions. The HDMI Black level allows you to be able to receive it. I believe the PS3 can do this, however AVS members are discussing whether it's a fat PS3 or not on the D7000 or D8000 threads. Check out those threads.


After messing around with it on my PS3, I really prefer the lower HDMI black level than the normal. The blacks seem to be washed out when its on normal, of course on my cable box it is greyed out on normal. I have the skinny PS3, I will check out the other boards see if they have any input. Thanks.
post #2515 of 3067
How can I get the soap opera effect, but avoid the juddering on the screen? I know it's not popular on here, but I kind of like the way the picture looks when it looks almost too real.
post #2516 of 3067
Standard AMP mode is great for that.
post #2517 of 3067
Quote:
Originally Posted by D Bone View Post

Standard AMP mode is great for that.

Won't the picture still judder on moving things? Example, the ESPN ticker. I have mine set to clear, blur reduction-10 and judder reduction-3
post #2518 of 3067
Quote:
Originally Posted by D Bone View Post

Standard AMP mode is great for that.

You are right, standard AMP definitely gives it the soap opera effect. Now, is there some way to stop the juddering on the screen? That would be awesome!
post #2519 of 3067
In response to the black picture and audio drop outs.

I have seen this happen on my D6050 but I think it is related to the Dish signal from the decoder. I have never seen it happen on OTA stations. It has happened on the last 3 firmware versions from Samsung so that is why I think it is because of the Dish tuner or feed.
post #2520 of 3067
Quote:
Originally Posted by balla01 View Post

After messing around with it on my PS3, I really prefer the lower HDMI black level than the normal. The blacks seem to be washed out when its on normal, of course on my cable box it is greyed out on normal. I have the skinny PS3, I will check out the other boards see if they have any input. Thanks.

For the PS3 you want to do this:

PS3: System -> Displays
- RGB Ful Range (HDMI): ON
- Deep Color: ON

Samsung TV:
- HDMI Black Level: NORMAL
- Color Space: Auto

These settings will produce the proper colors and allow the full range to be seen without being washed out. HDMI Black Level should only ever be set on Low if you are using a device that is incapable of transmitting a 0-255 color range signal or 4:4:4 encoded signal. All modern (8800 and later nVidia series; Radeon 5000 and later AMD series) video cards output in 4:4:4 and support 10-bit color at 48-bits, and most DVD players and all blu-ray players support 4:4:4 colorspace encoding.

Never ever ever EVER set the TV's color space to Native unless you're using a computer application specifically designed to exceed the sRGB color gamut output. This means you should never have Native active, or else it will oversaturate the colors onscreen (especially red).

Samsung did a major disservice to video quality by having the defaults be active for dynamic contrast, HDMI Black Level: Low, and Color Space: Native. Those settings just don't jive with what the devices made in the last five years output.
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: LCD Flat Panel Displays
AVS › AVS Forum › Display Devices › LCD Flat Panel Displays › Official Samsung UNXXD6000 Owners' Thread