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post #2941 of 3067
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Originally Posted by richardgnz View Post

I was really happy with my 55d6000 until it developed a dead pixel. I then had the LCD replaced under warranty and it has come back with some bad clouding.
It is only visible in dark rooms with dark scenes but it is always there and really ruins scenes as the same areas of the screen are brighter...


As you can see from the photos there are two "clouds" in the middle of the right part of the panel that really detract from the viewing.
I run the set in Movie mode with a backlight of 6 and everything turned off. I can reduce the clouding a little by setting Black Tone to Darkest and Shadow Detail to -2 - but even in doing this I can still see the clouding, Further by using these settings I would be seriously compromising the picture....
I am sending it back for repair again... What do you think my chances are of actually getting a replacement that works?
50/50
post #2942 of 3067
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Originally Posted by denary View Post

I just had my panel replaced under warranty and it appears the replacement panel was a refurb. Is that common practice for Samsung?
Probably. Why do you say its a refurb? Did you mention it to the tech?
post #2943 of 3067
AMP set to Off is best, then Custom : Blur reduction: 10 and Judder reduction: 0, the next is Clear.
post #2944 of 3067
Has anyone tried the Eco Sensor?

How well does it work at dimming brightness levels?
post #2945 of 3067
What's a good Backlight Setting?

I originally had it at 12.....

I now have it set to 7, it adds more depth.
post #2946 of 3067
Oh no...I think I have the horizontal banding..

Time to call Samsung...again
post #2947 of 3067
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Originally Posted by PiratesCove View Post

Oh no...I think I have the horizontal banding..
Time to call Samsung...again
Wow.
post #2948 of 3067
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Originally Posted by richardgnz View Post

I was really happy with my 55d6000 until it developed a dead pixel. I then had the LCD replaced under warranty and it has come back with some bad clouding.
It is only visible in dark rooms with dark scenes but it is always there and really ruins scenes as the same areas of the screen are brighter...


As you can see from the photos there are two "clouds" in the middle of the right part of the panel that really detract from the viewing.
I run the set in Movie mode with a backlight of 6 and everything turned off. I can reduce the clouding a little by setting Black Tone to Darkest and Shadow Detail to -2 - but even in doing this I can still see the clouding, Further by using these settings I would be seriously compromising the picture....
I am sending it back for repair again... What do you think my chances are of actually getting a replacement that works?

The replacement panel I got had one small dark spot near the top. not annoying enough to fight with Samsung again. After talking to the Techs at Samsung and Tier 3 customer service reps from Futureshop, I've learn a lot about LED Edge Lit HDTV's. The bright "clouds" on dark screens and dark "smudges" on light screens are caused by uneven thickness of the actual panel surface. ALL manufacturers of the edge lit panels have the same issue. Sony, LG, Samsung. Its a manufacturing problem. The smallest change in thickness in either direction will cause the screen to appear darker or lighter in that spot.

I was drawn to the LED edge lit as it was in my price range of $1000 and its power consumption was much less than many of its back lit comparables in that price range. I do wish I could have justified the price of a local dimming LED back lit but they were way out of my price range.
post #2949 of 3067
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

Wow.

Its not that bad- the bands only are in dark scenes with upward movements.
post #2950 of 3067
I really like the SMARTV features and QWERTY remote....

If only I can get a uniform screen with no horizonal bands.
post #2951 of 3067
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Originally Posted by PiratesCove View Post

Its not that bad- the bands only are in dark scenes with upward movements.
Oh. Well then thats OK. Its only a $1000 tv and it has a Qwerty remote. What more could one expect?
post #2952 of 3067
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

Oh. Well then thats OK. Its only a $1000 tv and it has a Qwerty remote. What more could one expect?

Excellent Picture Quality and no banding.........
post #2953 of 3067
Anybody got a Samsung LED without Banding?

I have a Samsung tech scheduled for next Thursday.....
post #2954 of 3067
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Originally Posted by PiratesCove View Post

Anybody got a Samsung LED without Banding?
I have a Samsung tech scheduled for next Thursday.....
Good for you! I am glad you havent given up. So many of the people in this forum seem to have been beaten down by Samsung cust svc and just settled for a bad tv that it kills me. I would have them out there every damn week until they fix it or give you a 2012 equivalent. I got 3 bad 60eh panels in a row and finally just bought something else but I didnt wait until after the return period. I feel for you but dont forget you are the customer and that is a big purchase. It is not unreasonable to expect it to work properly.
post #2955 of 3067
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

Good for you! I am glad you havent given up. So many of the people in this forum seem to have been beaten down by Samsung cust svc and just settled for a bad tv that it kills me. I would have them out there every damn week until they fix it or give you a 2012 equivalent. I got 3 bad 60eh panels in a row and finally just bought something else but I didnt wait until after the return period. I feel for you but dont forget you are the customer and that is a big purchase. It is not unreasonable to expect it to work properly.

Thanks for the encouragement....Anybody have a Samsung LED without banding?
post #2956 of 3067
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Originally Posted by PiratesCove View Post

Thanks for the encouragement....Anybody have a Samsung LED without banding?
lol You may be waiting a while for a reply. Maybe when the 2013s come out.
post #2957 of 3067
Any one know where the panel hours are kept in the service menu? They seemed to have changed its location from the "c" models...
post #2958 of 3067
Wow I just found out the Samsung UND6900 has the same Black Level as the Samsung PNE8000.....eek.gif

I guess I picked the right HDTV.

After reading multiple Samsung LED model threads looks like banding is pretty common.

Especially vertical banding, looks like I'll be keeping the D6900 fix or no fix.
post #2959 of 3067
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Originally Posted by PiratesCove View Post

Wow I just found out the Samsung UND6900 has the same Black Level as the Samsung PNE8000.....eek.gif
I guess I picked the right HDTV.
After reading multiple Samsung LED model threads looks like banding is pretty common.
Especially vertical banding, looks like I'll be keeping the D6900 fix or no fix.

Source on black levels?
post #2960 of 3067
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Originally Posted by winston9332 View Post

Source on black levels?

http://www.televisioninfo.com/
post #2961 of 3067
Ok guys, I spotted a few dark smudges and marks on my D6000 and am getting its LCD panel replaced.

How do I make sure the new panel is S-PVA like the one I have currently in my tv right now?
post #2962 of 3067
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Originally Posted by mknlb50 View Post

Ok guys, I spotted a few dark smudges and marks on my D6000 and am getting its LCD panel replaced.
How do I make sure the new panel is S-PVA like the one I have currently in my tv right now?

Resquest it from the local Samsung represenative repair shop or : http://www.samsung.com/us/support/

I have a repair today...Why do I always feel like Charlie Brown about to kick that football..before repairs?
post #2963 of 3067
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Originally Posted by PiratesCove View Post

Resquest it from the local Samsung represenative repair shop or : http://www.samsung.com/us/support/
I have a repair today...Why do I always feel like Charlie Brown about to kick that football..before repairs?

Samsung rep came by yesterday to verify the issue and is going to order the panel, but for the most part Samsung sends him either a refurb or a new lcd panel. So I'm assuming he won't know if he's getting an inferior AMVA panel or not. And I also think that going into the service menu won't help me either since I'm just replacing the LCD panel and not the motherboard.

Any help would be much appreciated!
Edited by mknlb50 - 10/25/12 at 5:51am
post #2964 of 3067
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Originally Posted by mknlb50 View Post

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Originally Posted by PiratesCove View Post

Resquest it from the local Samsung represenative repair shop or : http://www.samsung.com/us/support/
I have a repair today...Why do I always feel like Charlie Brown about to kick that football..before repairs?

Samsung rep came by yesterday to verify the issue and is going to order the panel, but for the most part Samsung sends him either a refurb or a new lcd panel. So I'm assuming he won't know if he's getting an inferior AMVA panel or not. And I also think that going into the service menu won't help me either since I'm just replacing the LCD panel and not the motherboard.

Any help would be much appreciated!

Your replacement panel will have a model sticker as well as manufacturing date of the panel on the back of it. Once installed you will not be able to see the sticker without taking the back panel off the TV. I would take a picture of the sticker prior to installation.
post #2965 of 3067
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Originally Posted by Mavinwow View Post

Your replacement panel will have a model sticker as well as manufacturing date of the panel on the back of it. Once installed you will not be able to see the sticker without taking the back panel off the TV. I would take a picture of the sticker prior to installation.

Ok... take a picture and what? I want to identify the panel type before Samsung rep opens up my TV and installs it. Would it have something similar to this on the back of the panel?

55A1UF0E
A — panel manufacturer (A = Samsung; D = CMO; L = AUO; I = CPT)
1 — frequency (6 = 50/60 Hz; 1 = 100/120 Hz; 2 = 200/240 Hz)
U — panel (A = AntiGlare; T = TN; U = Ultra Clear)
F — resolution (F = Full HD; H = HD; U = UD)
0 — 1st, 2nd panel and so on (1st = 0; 2nd = 1 ...)
C — backlight unit (C = CCFL; L = LED; E = Edge LED)
Edited by mknlb50 - 10/25/12 at 7:43am
post #2966 of 3067
I have owned the UN55D6050 for about a year now and I thought I would post my current settings as my tastes have changed somewhat.


For my cable STB I go

Picture mode: Standard
Backlight: 12-14
Contrast: 95
Brightness: 45
Sharpness: 30 (wow what a difference from the default 50. I used to think the 50 looked good but not anymore)
Color: 55 (I bumped this up a little bit to get a little more pop from the colors. The default 50 is probably just fine)
Tint: 50/50

Advanced
Black tone: Dark
Dynamic contrast: Medium
Shadow detail: 0
Gamma: 0
Color space: Auto (The default Native setting makes skin tones appear more red.)
White balance: off
Flesh tone: 0
Edge enhancement: off
Motion lighting: off
Led motion plus: off

Picture options:
Color tone: Standard (I go back and forth between this one and Warm 1. Warm2 is just too muddy for regular TV viewing despite being more accurate.)
Digital noise filter: off (wow I had this on Auto for so long and turning it off has made a difference to the clarity of the picture)
Mpeg noise filter: off (wow I had this on Auto for so long and turning it off has made a difference to the clarity of the picture)
HDMI Black level: low
Film mode: auto 2 (or greyed out)
Auto motion plus: Clear

System
Eco sensor: off


For Game Mode on Xbox 360 I Go

Picture mode: Standard(Game)
Backlight: 12-14
Contrast: 95
Brightness: 45
Sharpness: 30 - I may lower this even more
Color: 65 (When enabling game mode the color becomes horrific, upping it to 65 definitely helps)
Tint: 50/50

Advanced
Black tone: off
Dynamic contrast: off (The default Medium may add some input lag I am not sure so I just leave it off)
Shadow detail: +2
Gamma: 0
Color space: Auto
White balance: off
Flesh tone: 0
Edge enhancement: off
Motion lighting: off
Led motion plus: off

Picture options:
Color tone: Warm 1 - In game mode I believe Warm 1 helps the color in games like Modern Warfare 3
Digital noise filter: off
Mpeg noise filter: off
HDMI Black level: low
Film mode: auto 2 (Greyed out)
Auto motion plus: Off(Greyed out)

System
Eco sensor: off

My Blu Ray Player is out of service so I will update Movie settings later on. Overall I am fairly happy with this set and do not see any improvements in the 2012 ES6100 comparable model. I also had a 55NX720 from sony for awhile that I really liked but I really did not like its menu and smart hub interface. I kept coming back to the Samsung. My only real complaint about the D6000 is the side angle viewing. It really starts to look like **** at not very extreme angles. My brother's CCFL LCD from Samsung a few years ago does much better at side angles and the default picture settings are better. Unfortunately the CCFLs seem to be a thing of the past frown.gif I will probably not consider a new TV again until they fix the side angle shots or OLED comes out.
post #2967 of 3067
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Originally Posted by mknlb50 View Post

Samsung rep came by yesterday to verify the issue and is going to order the panel, but for the most part Samsung sends him either a refurb or a new lcd panel. So I'm assuming he won't know if he's getting an inferior AMVA panel or not. And I also think that going into the service menu won't help me either since I'm just replacing the LCD panel and not the motherboard.
Any help would be much appreciated!

The Samsung rep. came by today...I showed him horizontal banding via. Boardwalk Empire on HBOGo.

He switch fo a new panel and so far.....YEEEEESSS! Looks good, haven't looked for banding and hopefully I won the Panel Lottery.
post #2968 of 3067
Definitely a better panel, sharper picture...stronger backlight (with minor flashlighting).

Zero clouds, better motion processing...seems like a different type of panel.

Banding? looks better on Boardwalk Empire...very minimal.

I'm experimenting with the Eco Sensor set to 10.
post #2969 of 3067
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Originally Posted by PiratesCove View Post

The Samsung rep. came by today...I showed him horizontal banding via. Boardwalk Empire on HBOGo.
He switch fo a new panel and so far.....YEEEEESSS! Looks good, haven't looked for banding and hopefully I won the Panel Lottery.

Did they tell you what type of panel you received? How can you tell if it's an SPVA panel that you received?
post #2970 of 3067
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Originally Posted by mknlb50 View Post

Did they tell you what type of panel you received? How can you tell if it's an SPVA panel that you received?

It had the type written on the box.
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