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post #31 of 410
I will probably pick this up when it hits the bargain bin, which it will.

Their "we're the first to work with a real guitar" BS during the e3 stuff was just boring. No, you are not. Other companies have tried and if HMX could have figured a better way to launch the Squire this would be laughable because they actually put together something really special that about 5000 people maybe get to play.

So yeah, being able to work with any guitar will be cool but in no way can this capture the same amount of info RB3 is doing with its special guitar setup. For better or worse that may be. We'll see. I have some gripes about how HMX did the note charting but this looks like a bigger mess to me.
post #32 of 410
Their schtick is not that it's the first to use a real guitar. It's that you can use YOUR OWN guitar. ANY guitar.

I didn't want to buy RB3's guitar b/c I couldn't justify spending $300 when I had a perfectly good guitar sitting in my bedroom. $300 for a Squier? $170 for a 102 button plastic guitar?

If the reviews come out bad, I won't buy it. But I'll at least give it a chance before saying that it doesn't work.
post #33 of 410
Oh the guy on G4 was VERY dismissive of everything HMX has done. That is what drew my ire.

I'm certainly not writing off the game or saying it won't work, but it can't track finger positioning so it isn't quite what RB3 does with its admittedly high priced system. My primary interest in these games is singing and even though I have the RB3 pro set up it isn't my primary focus, in fact I kind of like just using training mode with it to learn songs rather than play the game. That can be brutally precise and unfun but you do learn to play the riffs mistake free. I bet Ubisoft's will be more forgiving and more fun but I wonder if it will do a better job of turning out people that can actually play? We shall see.

I think HMX needs to take their pro set up outside of the game environment and make a full learning only program and that would have the most potential of all.
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Skepticism is fine. But outright criticism of a product that's not even out seems strange. It reeks of sour grapes. I'd understand if you tried it out at E3 and came away unimpressed. Otherwise, joining a discussion to criticize an unreleased product is not something I'd recommend.
Sorry to be so blunt, but please climb off your high horse and show me where the **** I criticized this game.
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I'm certainly not writing off the game or saying it won't work, but it can't track finger positioning so it isn't quite what RB3 does with its admittedly high priced system.
Why does finger positioning matter? I play guitar and I can tell you that if you tell two people to play a song by ear they are going to play different chords differently. Neither are wrong. You can play an A major open or barred on the fifth fret. I look at tabs for solos sometimes and almost never play the song the way the tab says because a certain finger position feels better to me than the way it's tabbed.

It's about the notes played, not the fingering. I'm not saying this is definitely going to be good, but a game that restricts your freedom to play a note how you feel comfortable sounds like it sucks.

I'm definitely interested in this game if it is another tool to learn new songs. I think it could be very beneficial if it is precise enough to tell you that when you are supposed to be making a full bend you are a little flat or sharp.
post #36 of 410
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Why does finger positioning matter?

As a learning tool I think it matters, in practicality, no. At least if we're talking power chords and single notes. I still wonder if this game is going to correctly measure accuracy of more complex chords. RB's fingering system at least takes tuning out of the equation. Will Rock Smith require you to retune before each song?
post #37 of 410
Why would you need to retune before each song? Most songs are in standard tuning, and I imagine if they have some songs in a different tuning they will be grouped together. If you have to retune before each song, your guitar just sucks and you'd have to do that whether playing a game or just playing the guitar.
post #38 of 410
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Why would you need to retune before each song? Most songs are in standard tuning, and I imagine if they have some songs in a different tuning they will be grouped together. If you have to retune before each song, your guitar just sucks and you'd have to do that whether playing a game or just playing the guitar.

Well the game isn't going to be able to demand a full note bend if the notes aren't 100% in tune before every song is it? It's software so it gets programmed with a certain tolerance. So my prediction is it is going to be too loose and allow for a lot sloppier playing than RB's engine which is too strict but imho better geared towards learning.
post #39 of 410
I get what you're saying about giving some tolerance because of tuning issues. And I give you an A++ for using the word "loose" in the correct way
post #40 of 410
I saw some Q&A vids from the developers...









post #41 of 410
actually really looking forward to this and using a real guitar. bring it on! of course taking lessons would be better but i don't have the time. maybe this can be a do it whenever i have an hour or so on any given day. 80 bucks isn't much if i can get comfortable with the guitar over time. maybe it will make me learn much faster when i actually do take lessons and pay much more money
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They need to come out with a DJ game that can be used with real turntables
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post #46 of 410
I may be the world's biggest Harmonix fanboy, but I will go ahead and give this a try.

But at $79.99 not sure how it will do with the general public.
post #47 of 410
I really want to try out this title, seeing that I have a guitar just sitting here. But after seeing all the games coming out this fall and winter, my budget is stretched really thin. If there's a great preorder offer, I could pull the trigger. Otherwise, I can wait and see how things shake out. too many great games, too little money!

In terms of the general public. This will appeal to people that already have guitars. And Ubisoft is betting on word of mouth to get other people to buy guitars. Otherwise, being a niche product isn't such a bad thing. Karaoke is still big with the Lips, Singstar, and Karaoke Revolution fans.

It's sad how fast the band genre backlash hit. It's amazing that people were picking up full band packages (even RB packages) for $20-30 when they were $200+ just a couple years ago. Even DJ Hero was a victim by association, and I'm really enjoying DJ Hero 2 (picked up the turntable combo for $20 recently).
post #48 of 410
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But at $79.99 not sure how it will do with the general public.

It will be in the bargain bin within 2 months at which point I will snatch it up.
post #49 of 410
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But at $79.99 not sure how it will do with the general public.

I'm sure their marketing is targeted at guitarists rather than the general public.
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I'm sure their marketing is targeted at guitarists rather than the general public.

Yeah, and we're already accustomed to getting screwed on prices for guitar-related items.
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2 free songs if you preorder thru Gamestop or Best Buy...





I guess this vid proves you don't need to prove press credentials to get a review copy...




wish we didn't have to hear all the cheerleading to get detailed hands-on info (or video).
post #53 of 410
Like I've been saying all along, I sure hope this turns out well but I'm not buying into the hype. The details as they emerge are looking promising, so that's a good thing.
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I like how the end of the video advertises 2 free songs, then an asterisk states "while supplies last."

I didn't know digital songs could be affected by short supply.


Does anyone know (wink, wink, onlysublime, the current AVS cheerleader for this game) if those 2 free songs will be available for download for people that refuse to use those 2 stores for pre-order. Or someone that isn't going to pre-order at all and wait until there's a sale? Because I will get this game, and I'd really like to get Freebird, but I'm not so interested in paying $80 for the game.

Also what are the DLC prices, have they announced?
post #56 of 410
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I like how the end of the video advertises 2 free songs, then an asterisk states "while supplies last."

I didn't know digital songs could be affected by short supply.


Does anyone know (wink, wink, onlysublime, the current AVS cheerleader for this game) if those 2 free songs will be available for download for people that refuse to use those 2 stores for pre-order. Or someone that isn't going to pre-order at all and wait until there's a sale? Because I will get this game, and I'd really like to get Freebird, but I'm not so interested in paying $80 for the game.

Also what are the DLC prices, have they announced?

yeah, I haven't done any research into the DLC. I'm sure they're going to sell the songs if you don't preorder. Seems silly to waste money like that.
post #57 of 410
Best Buy's website says they also include 3 dlc effect pedals:

The Powerchorder instant power chord harmony pedal allows players to easily execute complex shifting power chord riffs and 5th harmony leads simply by playing single notes.
The Trem-Olé! vintage surf/Rockabilly/Western movie tone effect pedal couples a fixed speed, selectable tremolo with a slap-back delay.
The Robo Crunch high-tech, low-fi synth simulator combines a bit reduction effect with a slow moving flanger.
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They need to come out with a DJ game that can be used with real turntables

It's called Serato ; ) (kidding)
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