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post #2761 of 3296
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Originally Posted by leftyguitar1963 View Post

1st of all why do u feel it necessary to load the latest version? others have stated if it's working without issue to leave it well alone.

The only thing the 10.2x seems to deal with is 'flickering' during 3d viewing. If your 3d looks fine w/out issue then leave it as is.......

Is there any way to go into the menu system and find out what is the current firmware version running on my set other than trying to upgrade to find out?

Nevermind...I see it off to the right in the Software Upgrade menu...Duh!

One more thing. Once the Eco Sensor is set in the System menu, is it disabled whenever you manually adjust the backlight level under Picture settings? It appears to work that way.
post #2762 of 3296
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Originally Posted by leftyguitar1963 View Post

1st of all why do u feel it necessary to load the latest version? others have stated if it's working without issue to leave it well alone.

The only thing the 10.2x seems to deal with is 'flickering' during 3d viewing. If your 3d looks fine w/out issue then leave it as is.......

They've not updated the changelog in months.
Some of the more recent updates are updates for Netflix etc, rather than actual TV stuff.
post #2763 of 3296
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Originally Posted by funnyguy00 View Post

I still can't get an upgrade to my D7000 from firmware 1019 over the internet. Not is says no update available. But I've read of newer versions.

How do I download the firmware online to do a USB upgrade? On the support page there only seems to be the manual and the any share software available for download?

http://www.samsung.com/ca/support/mo...FXZC-downloads
post #2764 of 3296
[quote=nitra;21928182]Do not fall for HDMI marketing, a good HDMI cable will not run more than $20, it's simply 1's and 0's, it's a binary connection. Believe it or not, Walmart sells some very decent plain black cables that can be had for $10CAD, they have various sizes. Gold plated, gas filled, will not change the fact that the signal is 1's and 0's, it is not possible to enhance the picture or quality of HDMI signals, either it gets there, or it doesn't. If, with your current cables, you see stars bursts or white dots on the screen or experience drop outs, change the cables.


Its funny you say that Nitra I was Just watching The movie "Green Zone" on Blu-ray and noticed that almost all the dark scenes in the movie had this very pronounced "snowy" effect. It was actually quite annoying! Would this be the result of a poor quality cable? or was it just the blu-ray? Thanks.
post #2765 of 3296
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Originally Posted by Devin1886 View Post


Its funny you say that Nitra I was Just watching The movie "Green Zone" on Blu-ray and noticed that almost all the dark scenes in the movie had this very pronounced "snowy" effect. It was actually quite annoying! Would this be the result of a poor quality cable? or was it just the blu-ray? Thanks.

Reading the Bluray review, it was the disc that did that, working as intended.
http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Green-Zone-Blu-ray/11196/
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...56&postcount=6

Here's a quote from the cinematographer regarding the grain:
"We were underexposing to get what I call 'a night feel,' but using a T2.8 zoom lens in such dark conditions, when you're already 2 or 3 stops underexposed, can get scary. We were doing all the things you're not meant to do with film stock in order to tell the audience that this is a place of death. The grain became part of the story." ""
post #2766 of 3296
Hi All,
We recently got the un60d7000. The picture is great, but there is a slight annoyance. When changing channels, the left and right sidebars of the tv seems to load the channel a split second faster than the middle of the tv. It does not happen when we had the tv hooked up to a standard definition receiver, but once we got the HD receiver from the cable company, the issue occurs.

Hope that makes sense. We would prefer not to return it because we got a good deal and it was the last new one in store. Is there anything I can do on my end to resolve this? Any input appreciated.
LL
post #2767 of 3296
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Originally Posted by dividend View Post

Hi All,
We recently got the un60d7000. The picture is great, but there is a slight annoyance. When changing channels, the left and right sidebars of the tv seems to load the channel a split second faster than the middle of the tv. It does not happen when we had the tv hooked up to a standard definition receiver, but once we got the HD receiver from the cable company, the issue occurs.

Hope that makes sense. We would prefer not to return it because we got a good deal and it was the last new one in store. Is there anything I can do on my end to resolve this? Any input appreciated.

That's not the TV doing it. Call the cable company, or ask in their forums.
post #2768 of 3296
I haven't seen that type of abnormality either. I can say that after two weeks of heavy viewing, this set is really starting to break in and looking great!
post #2769 of 3296
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Originally Posted by nitra View Post

Reading the Bluray review, it was the disc that did that, working as intended.
http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Green-Zone-Blu-ray/11196/
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...56&postcount=6

Here's a quote from the cinematographer regarding the grain:
"We were underexposing to get what I call 'a night feel,' but using a T2.8 zoom lens in such dark conditions, when you're already 2 or 3 stops underexposed, can get scary. We were doing all the things you're not meant to do with film stock in order to tell the audience that this is a place of death. The grain became part of the story." ""

Thanks for your reply. Its too bad that some Blu-rays are like that. We pay more for a Blu-ray disc so that we get the best picture but yet some discs are so plagued with this issue that it may as well be a DVD Rip! Its just disappointing when you expect to watch a crystal clear movie and it turns out that half of it is not any better than DVD quality. Oh well, nothings perfect I guess.
post #2770 of 3296
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Originally Posted by leftyguitar1963 View Post

1st of all why do u feel it necessary to load the latest version? others have stated if it's working without issue to leave it well alone.

The only thing the 10.2x seems to deal with is 'flickering' during 3d viewing. If your 3d looks fine w/out issue then leave it as is.......

My issue has nothing to do with 3D, I don't even own the glasses yet. As I posted before, I see flashes, like someone taking flash photography. I just wanted to be at the latest firmware before getting samsung support involved.
post #2771 of 3296
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Can that also be used on the UN60D7000 ?
post #2772 of 3296
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Originally Posted by funnyguy00 View Post

Can that also be used on the UN60D7000 ?

Guess not...they don't show any Firmware uploads for the 60...
http://www.samsung.com/ca/support/mo...lDownload=true
post #2773 of 3296
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Originally Posted by Bri in Mtl View Post

Guess not...they don't show any Firmware uploads for the 60...
http://www.samsung.com/ca/support/mo...lDownload=true

I contacted support about my flashing problem. They said if the TV says there is no newer firmware needed, then there isn't. So I assume 1019 is the latest for my UN60D7000VFXZA.
post #2774 of 3296
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Originally Posted by funnyguy00 View Post

So I assume 1019 is the latest for my UN60D7000VFXZA.

Actually, it's 1023. I just upgraded.

http://www.samsung.com/us/support/ow...N46D7000LFXZA?

Click on see all downloads near the top, left-center.
post #2775 of 3296
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Originally Posted by cglenn View Post

Actually, it's 1023. I just upgraded.

http://www.samsung.com/us/support/ow...N46D7000LFXZA?

Click on see all downloads near the top, left-center.

It's 1023 for us 46" folks but not the 60" which is 1019.
post #2776 of 3296
Well I just received my new Samsung UN55D7000. I just got it all set up using Nitra's settings. I have noticeable clouding and flash lighting. The "soap Opera" effect is distracting, probably just looks that way because I'm just used to my 60hz Sony LCD. I guess my question would be, is there a break in period? Will the clouding and flash lighting subside? and What can I do about the "soap opera" effect? Thanks in advance.
post #2777 of 3296
Having read here about the 'soap opera' effect, when I got my 46" 7000 last week, I noticed it right away. Actually, to me it's more a video tape vs. film issue, and actually since soap operas were taped and not filmed (not sure what they do in this digital age), this comparison may be more on target.

Anyway, I played with everything, and I think I found the culprit.

It is the Auto Motion Plus setting. Try setting it to Clear. That is what worked for me.

BTW, am I correct that there is no manual way to turn on the TV, that only a remote control can turn it on?
post #2778 of 3296
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Originally Posted by Devin1886 View Post

Well I just received my new Samsung UN55D7000. I just got it all set up using Nitra's settings. I have noticeable clouding and flash lighting. The "soap Opera" effect is distracting, probably just looks that way because I'm just used to my 60hz Sony LCD. I guess my question would be, is there a break in period? Will the clouding and flash lighting subside? and What can I do about the "soap opera" effect? Thanks in advance.

Here is a link on reducing the Soap opera effect:

http://hdguru.com/a-solution-to-the-...a-effect/2119/
post #2779 of 3296
At the bottom of that article they do say an alternate method is to set auto motion plus to clear. Nice to know this LCD-LED amateur can figger it out.

When I was searching thru menu items for the solution, I used a scene in a DirectV broadcast TV show that had the video tape effect and a moderate speed camera pan that had the jerky effect. When I set auto motion plus to off, I lost the video tape effect but I still had the jerky effect. When I tried the custom setting, I really couldn't get it to pan smoothly without the video tape effect.

I know all this varies by viewer, but this should put you in the right menu to get what looks best for you.
post #2780 of 3296
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Originally Posted by cglenn View Post

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BTW, am I correct that there is no manual way to turn on the TV, that only a remote control can turn it on?

There's a touch row of buttons on the backside, right hand side of the screen.
post #2781 of 3296
Well, that's embarrassing. Thanks.
post #2782 of 3296
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Originally Posted by cglenn View Post

Well, that's embarrassing. Thanks.

ROFL...It's actually pretty cool how the buttons light up as you run your hand up and down the panel. Let's you know where you are!
post #2783 of 3296
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Originally Posted by cglenn View Post

Having read here about the 'soap opera' effect, when I got my 46" 7000 last week, I noticed it right away. Actually, to me it's more a video tape vs. film issue, and actually since soap operas were taped and not filmed (not sure what they do in this digital age), this comparison may be more on target.

Anyway, I played with everything, and I think I found the culprit.

It is the Auto Motion Plus setting. Try setting it to Clear. That is what worked for me.

BTW, am I correct that there is no manual way to turn on the TV, that only a remote control can turn it on?

Thanks for the info. I will try that when I get home. I also read about some sort of massage technique that can be done to reduce clouding? Has anyone tried this? Does it help? I also am waiting on my high speed HDMI cables to come in. I'm using some cheap Phillips brand cables right now, they do the trick but will there be any difference in picture quality when I switch to the "high speed cables"? I seem to have got the picture settings to where I want them, but the flash lighting in the bottom right corner is even worse now. What can I do to help reduce this? Thanks in advance.
post #2784 of 3296
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Originally Posted by Devin1886 View Post

Thanks for the info. I will try that when I get home. I also read about some sort of massage technique that can be done to reduce clouding? Has anyone tried this? Does it help? I also am waiting on my high speed HDMI cables to come in. I'm using some cheap Phillips brand cables right now, they do the trick but will there be any difference in picture quality when I switch to the "high speed cables"? I seem to have got the picture settings to where I want them, but the flash lighting in the bottom right corner is even worse now. What can I do to help reduce this? Thanks in advance.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...2#post21928182

Do not fall for HDMI marketing, a good HDMI cable will not run more than $20, it's simply 1's and 0's, it's a binary connection. Believe it or not, Walmart sells some very decent plain black cables that can be had for $10CAD, they have various sizes. Gold plated, gas filled, will not change the fact that the signal is 1's and 0's, it is not possible to enhance the picture or quality of HDMI signals, either it gets there, or it doesn't. If, with your current cables, you see stars bursts or white dots on the screen or experience drop outs, change the cables.

If it works now, highspeed cables will do nothing, the signal gets there, or it doesn't. It's not possible to enhance the quality of HDMI.
If you are having the above issues, or HDMI sync issues, replace the cables. The Phillips cables may be cheap, but they are actually high quality, and believe it or not, they are likely spec'ed mroe then enough for 1.4a.
There was very little change in spec from 1.3 to 1.4a. I've not encountered a 1.3 cable that didn't work at 1.4a specs.
High speed, deep color, all marketing.
The only real difference might be a cable with "Ethernet" and I'd guess that your cheap Phillips cables have it as well. Even they $10 black HDMI cables at Walmart have it. It's all marketing BS.
post #2785 of 3296
We could support one of the forum's sponsors, Monocable. I had no HDMI cables, and I ordered from them. The 24AWG 4 footer cost $5.67. It's as thick as an s-video or component monster cable, with a woven black exterior. It even looks quality.
post #2786 of 3296
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Originally Posted by cglenn View Post

we could support one of the forum's sponsors, monocable. I had no hdmi cables, and i ordered from them. The 24awg 4 footer cost $5.67. It's as thick as an s-video or component monster cable, with a woven black exterior. It even looks quality.

+1
post #2787 of 3296
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Originally Posted by nitra View Post

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...2#post21928182

Do not fall for HDMI marketing, a good HDMI cable will not run more than $20, it's simply 1's and 0's, it's a binary connection. Believe it or not, Walmart sells some very decent plain black cables that can be had for $10CAD, they have various sizes. Gold plated, gas filled, will not change the fact that the signal is 1's and 0's, it is not possible to enhance the picture or quality of HDMI signals, either it gets there, or it doesn't. If, with your current cables, you see stars bursts or white dots on the screen or experience drop outs, change the cables.
If it works now, highspeed cables will do nothing, the signal gets there, or it doesn't. It's not possible to enhance the quality of HDMI.
If you are having the above issues, or HDMI sync issues, replace the cables. The Phillips cables may be cheap, but they are actually high quality, and believe it or not, they are likely spec'ed mroe then enough for 1.4a.
There was very little change in spec from 1.3 to 1.4a. I've not encountered a 1.3 cable that didn't work at 1.4a specs.
High speed, deep color, all marketing.
The only real difference might be a cable with "Ethernet" and I'd guess that your cheap Phillips cables have it as well. Even they $10 black HDMI cables at Walmart have it. It's all marketing BS.

Thanks for the info Nitra. Do you know of any ways that can diminish the flash lighting I'm getting. Like I said I did read somewhere in this forum that you can actually massage the screen with a microfiber cloth in an up and down motion to help with flash lighting or clouding. Has anyone used this technique? Also, what settings (if any) can I adjust to help reduce the flash lighting? Thanks .
post #2788 of 3296
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Originally Posted by Devin1886 View Post

Thanks for the info Nitra. Do you know of any ways that can diminish the flash lighting I'm getting. Like I said I did read somewhere in this forum that you can actually massage the screen with a microfiber cloth in an up and down motion to help with flash lighting or clouding. Has anyone used this technique? Also, what settings (if any) can I adjust to help reduce the flash lighting? Thanks .

I would also like to know, because I was tempted to return mine but after a trip to my local BJ's to look at what to replace it with oh my. I was looking at the sharp LC-70LE735U, but my Samsung picture quality still blew it away with all its issues. I looked at Samsung plasma but the picture was too dull for me. The only other option is Sony 929, but i don't want to spend that much for a tv with its own issues. So if there is a solution would someone please share the knowledge with us.
post #2789 of 3296
I too am considering exchanging mine, but like you say, the picture is fantastic. Its those dark scenes where you can really see the clouding and flash lighting. Its too bad. I'm kind of indecisive right now. The picture is great, but as soon as the screen goes dark I'm immediately disappointed. Can someone chime in who has had a similar experience? Curious to hear from those who have had this issue and what actions were taken to resolve it. Is Samsung strong on customer service? Would they exchange it for me? Or would it be a hassle to get a replacement? If anyone has had there set replaced please let me know how the process went and if you were satisfied with the exchange. Thanks in advance.
post #2790 of 3296
They have a breakin period of 3-4 weeks, they generally get better.
The flashlighting can be helped by keeping the backlight lower, 8 on these sets is generally equal to 14-16 on the other backlit type sets.

Use 8 for the backlight, enable the ECO sensor, set it to bottom out at 5.

You will find most if not all of the issues you're seeing with flashlighting will be gone.
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