Official Samsung UNXXD7000 Owners' Thread - Page 29

Is this what you call lag? My 650 55", w/samsung set top box from Time Warner and Pioneer 23thx when I change channels will black out first. I change channels using the set top box's remote and first it goes black then the picture and sound will pop in and out for a second then go black again whle displaying the status banner and spend what seems a long time in nether world before it comes back.
Don't know which component is responsible but suspect the tv. Anything I can add to correct this? this thread seems more active so ...!

Very disappointing indeed that it doesn't do Amazon Instant Video. , as the UN55C7000 is listed as a compatible device and also since I'm likely to cancel my netflix when the prices jump next month.

I am not sure if it is me but it feels like the clouding is almost gone (so less that I had to strain to look for it in pitch black room with black screen). I did "massage" the areas a bit but I didn't think it will really help. Is it possible that these actually change after few hours of use?

If it is going to be at this level, then I have to say that this TV is very good and will stick with it. (The PQ has been outstanding otherwise).
I will upload few shots later as well.

Good for you! I just got my replacement (un55D7000) today from Amazon. The bleeding seems less, but clouding still there. What is your picture setting for the clouding to go away?

I have posted my last TV settings earlier. I think a modified version of it is available in the first post of this thread as well. I did change couple of things like Warm2 setting to Warm 1 and adjusted brightness. I did drop the Backlight to 8 as the picture was very bright in dark room condition (which was still very bright).

I'm pretty sure this happened to me as well. I could see the clouding almost straight away when the set was installed Sat afternoon, but since then I have not seen it again - even in really dark scenes. Could it be that the later built sets have ironed out a few of the issues?

I'm absolutely so happy with the D7000. I have plugged in numerous settings and at first I was jumping between movie and natural mode but now can't go anywhere near natural mode. Watching bluray on this TV is just amazing. I just love the clarity and the colours are so vivid but accurate at the same time.

The only negative about this unit is that it seems you really have to sit right in front of it. Viewing off centre really leads to a great loss of contrast/colour very quickly. It doesn't even have to be that off centre. I don't think this is a Samsung issue just an LCD issue I guess.

I feel sorry for the people having clouding issues and I hope they get them sorted out because it really is a very nice TV.

I'm actually thinking of getting it professionally calibrated some time soon - if I do I will post the results.

How long does it take for the clouding to go away? My replacement (got today) still has clouding issue, especially obvious when using the Smarthub apps such as NetFlix and youtube etc (see attached picture). this was also true for the one being replaced. wondering how long to wait to call Amazon to have a replacement again or return.

I saw some straight away but not as bad as yours.

I don't know how it went away but it happened very quickly and I have only seen it once. Maybe it went after I played with the picture settings - not sure.

Is there any particular scene of a movie or a menu on the TV where the clouding is really bad. I want to see if it's really gone or if what I'm playing just doesn't show any clouding.

Try playing a DVD/BD and pausing on a totally black frame (movie beginning, fade to black, end credits, etc.). The flash lighting and clouding effects are best seen when the screen is totally black.

Given that almost everyone agrees this model produces an outstanding picture, don't some of the discussions involving these issues - that can only be seen when there is no picture - seem a little silly?

Andre'

I am assuming you have the backlight down to 10 or 9 etc as per the settings ?
Mine had some clouding but no flash lighting when I got it (UN60D7000 which itself was a replacement) . I thought I saw some hint of it on completely black screen in a pitch black room even with backlight at 10. But after I messed around with the settings and massaging the area of the screen (I know it was desperate ), I was fully expecting to see the clouding the next day. I tried it again the following night and the clouding was barely noticeable (in pitch black condition). There is no hint of any clouding or unevenness when there is any ambient light regardless of the picture.

The picture itself has been very very good. so I am quite happy with where things are at currently.

Just as Andre suggested, also very obvious when opening smarthub apps such as NetFlix or Youtube when it is retrieving.

I did get the blacklight down to 8 and followed the best settings I could found here. The clouding is still there tonight. I may try to massage these area, . But there are lots of areas, . not sure if it is possible.

From your experience, it looks like the TV is really set by set. If mine still has the problem after a week, I will ask for another replacement and hope for good luck...

Ouch, that is a lot for backlight 8
You are right, This seems like russian roulette and is definitely differs from unit to unit. I guess the saving grace is Amazon's amazing customer service..

does anyone know what is included in the update numbered 1015? I turned my tv on today and it asked if i wanted to update from 1012 to 1015. I can not find what is included anywhere but it seemed to make my pq worse then it used to be. please help!!!

Odd, The website only lists 1012 as the latest firmware for D7000. For D8000 series I see update for 1016.. Dont see anything for 1015.

FWIW, This is what it says for 1016

1. Title
Firmware for LED TV D8000 series.(ver 1016)

2. Applicable Model
UN46D8000Y,UN55D8000Y,UN60D8000Y

3. Carrier or Corporate Customer
all customers

4. Description
-This firmware will decrease flickering problem on 3D mode. (only 3D model)
-change the way to get out of Store Demo Mode
-change the type of information of Info banner
-prevent escaping issue when pressing volume button on video apps(Netflix, Vudu,..)

Yes, agreed - it is a bit silly.

In my case I can't see it anymore but was curious to see if there is a particular movie that really shows it up.

As I said before, I am extremely happy with the Samsung but feel for those who are having issues with it because it does deliver an outstanding image when all is OK with the panel.

yeah i know it's odd. i looked at the website and only saw the one i used to have. i don't know what it was for. if anyone else has had this update offered to them let me know. I wonder if it fixes something with the newer tv's that the older tv's don't need

I noticed my TV (a replacement recieved on 16th) did this too though I could not find the update on Samsung's website. I did not notice big change of PQ yet, or maybe I have not tried hard to.

Hi guys, can anyone please tell me how to stop the TV from, mmm, how do I expain this... OK imagine on the screen is just a bit of white text on the bottom, like you get when you get display details up when watching a blu-ray or video on a PS3... the rest of the screen is black (empty). Now, the visible text is reasonably white but becomes far more white/bright when something else then comes on the screen. I have noticed on darker scenes what during a scene change you can see the screen go a bit darker very quickly.

A perfect example is at the beginning of Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire when the WB logo comes out of the black in the centre of the screen. The PS info text is no where near as bright as when you got to the next scene where the scene is lighter.

I have reduced the effect a bit by putting the Shadow Detail to 0 but its still very evident.

What causes this and can it be turned off? I have disabled all Eco and power settings, dynamic contract etc.

EDIT: just noticed that I still get the effect even when the Samsung TV menus are on display (and they dim too and go bright) so its not the amount of info on the screen but rather its determined by the actual source!!?? And Shadow Detail seems to have the most influence over this effect.

Link to youtube vid Samsung 55D7000 Brightness Fluctuations - YouTube

The brightness difference can easily be seen by viewing an hdmi source (but the source turned off) and then adjusting the Shadow Detail setting - you will see how the hdmi text top right and the Shadow Detail status bar changes drastically in brightnes - or at least mine does... does anyone elses?

FYI mine is a UK 55D7000.

Thanks!

Hi everyone, I have a couple of questions that I'm hoping someone can answer for me - there's a lack of reviews on the 7000 series, but many on the 8000 series and I'm not really sure how similar they are (I know there's really only about 3 things in the actual specs that are different.)

The CNET review for the 8000 says that it has average/bad shadow detail and was one of the worst they tested - is the same true of the 7000 models?

A few pages back someone mentioned that this set had undefeatable Motion Plus which I presume refers to the LEDs flashing on and off and not the motion interpolation of the AMP. However, another review mentioned (I don't remember which, sorry) said that only during 3D playback was Motion Plus on and unable to be turned off.

The Hometheater.com review mentions that 3:2 pulldown is applied to any 24Hz 3D playback - true? If so, why/is this normal for all 3DTVs (including the 6400?) There's no 3:2 pulldown applied to normal 24Hz Blu-Ray playback is there? It would kind of defeat the purpose if there was, haha.

Last, the Cinema Black function is only available on the 8000 series, right? Does the 7000 series have any sort of Smart LED type features/how is the micro dimming on this set? Good?

Sorry for the long post, and if any of this has been answered and I missed it (I did read mosts of this thread) feel free to let me know where I can find the answer.

Thanks in advance!

This makes no sense to me at all. I just saw one of these yesterday and I felt the viewing angle was better than any LCD I'd seen this year.

Which size did you buy?

I tried to take couple of shots of my UN60D7000. The TV looks better than the pics.



Here is one showing no flashlighting or clouding.

I have the 46" size.

I see a massive reduction in colour and contrast when not viewing it from exactly front on. The colours look very very different and loose a lot of contrast.

If I'm sitting on my couch exactly in front of the screen and then move say 2-3 ft to the right there is a very big difference.

OK, so that explains a lot. I was observing the 55", it's quite quite possible the panels are different. I'm curious whether 55" owners feel their viewing angles are good or not. Or 60" folks (since I'd only really want that size anyway).

Hi guys, could someone please confirm this on your sets for me, it'll only take a few seconds...

...The brightness difference can easily be seen by viewing an hdmi source (but the source turned off so screen is black) and then adjusting the Shadow Detail setting - you will see how the hdmi text top right and the Shadow Detail status bar changes drastically in brightness - or at least mine does... does anyone elses?

Thanks in advance, Rich

EDIT: looks like its called auto-dimming or CE dimming?

I have the 60'' and the angle of viewing is pretty decent (Certainly no difference if I move few feet from the center). I start seeing drop in contrast only at past 45 or 50 deg .

Thanks for this. I have put this set back on my list of "maybes". I really need a decent viewing angle. And the contrast in a "lit room" of the Samsungs is outstanding.

Not good news! I got a replacement yesterday and it is worse than the previous one. Can't believe they make the tv like this, with obvious problems in lot of the sets. Am sure it is not common like this in other brands. I'm attaching couple of shots of the new tv, this was taken in the morning (blinds down), in addition to the clouding, there are those few black spots/bars i see in the right side below the center. Dont know what that is.

Anyways, I guess I have had enough, going to give the tv the benefit of doubt, keep it for a week and if it is not better going to send it back and probably get a plasma or the lg passive 3d led.

Sadly, Samsung quality control is horrendous Rajesh. They are going for a new definition of LCD: lowest common denominator. They say snazzy designs, not picture quality as much and don't really seem focused on quality at all. Not one of their higher end LCDs or plasma lines is problem free in 2011.

This site is a tremendous resource, if sometimes providing so much information that it makes you scared to purchase. I was so afraid of the flashlighting and clouding issue that I nearly didn't buy my D7000. I did anyway (thanks, btw, to Droozy for posting the settings, saved me a ton of time). Anyway, very happy with my 60D7000. Picture is great, and not sure I even would ever have known to look for flashlighting or clouding and I haven't noticed.

I do have one substantive question. Since updating to 001015, I have noticed on many channels that the sound and pictures are not sync'd. Didn't notice this at all on the prior update. I am running sound through by Denon 887 with a HDMI (the TV is not in its permanent location during a remodel), not one of the new cables but what I was running on my old plasma. No other components are attached at the moment, just the sound running through the Denon and to a single center channel speaker. Running a DirecTV HD receiver (model number who knows, but from about two years ago).

Any ideas? I assume the next firmware update would take care of this. I have bought new HDMI cables for when the TV moves to the family room (1.4 standard, high speed with Ethernet Channel). Could try those now if that would make a difference.

I thank you in advance if there are any ideas.