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post #1 of 16
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So this seems to be in the news today. Some company called Zediva has been in beta for a year, but is now public. DVD rentals at $1.99 or $1 if you buy 10 (BD coming soon).

From what I can gather, they seem to be exploiting a loophole in that they actually buy a physical copy, but stream it to you. Thus you rent it, and get a 4 hour window to watch it, since it's one DVD and player per customer. Interesting premise, I guess. Doesn't seem like the best technical solution, but it gets them around the 28 day window since they are just buying copies at retail, I suppose.

Anyways, site is down due to demand right now. I am sure it won't last long. They won't be able to afford to fight the lawsuits and I'm sure the cease and desist orders are already there.

Site: http://w1.zediva.com/splash/waitlist.php

Engadget article: http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/16/z...r-hour-window/

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Netflix and Redbox have been the new hotness in rentals for the last few years but both have significant drawbacks. With Redbox, it's the box and the morons who are constantly standing in front of it paging through every single movie in the thing and for Netflix's Watch Instantly it's a lack of new releases available for instant viewing. Now there's a new startup, Zediva, that takes on both of those issues by sticking with DVDs, but instead of shipping them to customers or placing them in kiosks, just streams them on demand from one player, to one viewer (unlike Netflix, sometimes movies are "rented out" if there are no copies available at the moment -- renting a flick gives you control of the DVD player, with fast forward and reverse, for four hours) for $1.99 a rental or 10 for $10.

Apparently it's been in beta for a year but is now available to all and is currently offering new release DVDs the same day they go on sale by simply purchasing them at retail. There's no HD content yet but it claims Blu-ray titles will be offered soon. The Associated Press talked to a copyright lawyer who points out the case of a hotel that implemented a similar system but was sued into oblivion before calling Zediva "cute, but illegal"
post #2 of 16
Just caught this story on the google news feed.

Here is another story in the New York Times

Haven't decided yet if this is idea is utterly brilliant or complete madness. I am leaning towards madness. The Times article points out that Zediva would need millions of DVD players to truly compete with Netflix and Redbox.

Most DVD's include "private home use only" right? Also, doesn't the FBI Anti-Piracy warning mention unauthorized "distribution" as well?
post #3 of 16
I assume it's only DVD quality, no HD, so I'm not interested. It would have been more interesting if they started using blu-rays, but they probably don't have limited bandwidth.
post #4 of 16
If nothing else, at least it is a funny and entertaining story.
post #5 of 16
Zediva...sounds more like a pharmaceutical drug that is advertised on TV
post #6 of 16
Zediva is no longer accepting new users as per their website!
post #7 of 16
Cause they don't have enough of the machines I would assume.
It's a horrible idea. They will be gone in no time.
post #8 of 16
the following email was received today

Dear Zediva Wait-List Member,

We appreciate your interest in renting new movies on-line with Zediva. If you are receiving this email, you are confirmed on our waiting list.

We have received many questions about when we will start welcoming new customers.

Please allow us to explain:
With all the press attention and new customer sign-ups last week, our overworked troop of DVD changing monkeys got rather upset with us. After heated negotiations, we have conceded to their demands, and will be expanding the jungle gym complex outside of the datacenter.

With everyone happy and working hard, we plan to invite a first wave of new customers within a few days. It's going to take us a little while to get through a long list of interested customers. Please be patient with us.

A few important details:
How it will work: When we are able to accommodate you, we will send you an email with an authorized sign-up link. DO NOT 'unsubscribe' to this email if you wish to receive an invitation to join.
We are not able to tell you where on the list you are, or specifically when you will receive an invitation to join.
Please follow us on Facebook and/or Twitter for updates and information.
We are a new business, and we feel very privileged that you have shown an interest in using our service. We plan to work very hard to build our capacity, and make your wait worthwhile. We don't care how many bananas it takes! Thank you for your early interest in Zediva.

Regards,
The Zediva Team
post #9 of 16
Thread Starter 
Hehe....monkey jokes. Let us know if you get in.
post #10 of 16
Mon., Apr. 4, 2011, 2:14pm PT

By Josh L. Dickey

The Motion Picture Association of America on Monday filed a federal copyright infringement lawsuit against movie streaming service Zediva, which the studios say illegally exhibits films to its members.

Zediva claims it operates like a brick-and-mortar DVD rental store, making it exempt from licensing fees, according to an MPAA release.

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118034945
post #11 of 16
Thread Starter 
Shocked!

Oh wait...no I'm not.
post #12 of 16
I think the law is on the side of Zediva because they are not violating DMCA, they are protected under the First Sale Doctrine.
I personally think their business is a stupid concept because you have to wait to watch a movie, not to mention they have to own hundreds(if not thousands) of standalone players.
post #13 of 16
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Yeah I agree completely....dumb idea, but legal IMO. The studios will just bankrupt them with lawsuits though, regardless of the legality.
post #14 of 16
Kinda of a low tech way of streaming though.
post #15 of 16
It is certainly a wacky approach. I can't see how they can possibly satisfy more that a few thousand customers with this approach. But we all know the studios will fight any challenge to any perceived copy write violations.
post #16 of 16
Thread Starter 
Well, that didn't last long:

http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/02/z...hollywood-pop/

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Zediva's loophole-exploiting DVD rental service has just been dealt a lethal blow by Judge John F. Walter. The recent court-ordered preliminary injunction effectively halts the company's ability to rent its library to users across the internet's great streaming divide. Citing irreparable damages to both the nascent video on demand market and Hollywood's bottom line, the federal judge found Zediva's business in violation of studios' exclusive right to public performance of copyrighted works.
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