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TX-NR609 - 7.2-Channel Network A/V Receiver
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* HDMI Support for 3D Video and Audio Return Channel
* Marvell Qdeo™ 4K Upscaling and Processing
* Network Capability Delivers Internet Radio and Network Streaming
* THX® Select2 Plus™ Certified
* Audyssey DSX™ and Dolby® Pro Logic® IIz Add New Dimensions to Surround Sound
* Direct Digital Connection of iPod/iPhone via Front-Panel USB Port
* Onkyo Remote App for iPod/iPhone

TX-NR509 - 5.1-Channel 3-D Ready Network A/V Receiver

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* HDMI Support for 3D Video and Audio Return Channel
* Network Capability Delivers Internet Radio and Network Streaming
* Direct Digital Connection of iPod/iPhone via Front-Panel USB Port
* Onkyo Remote App for iPod/iPhone
* Audyssey 2EQ for Room Acoustic Correction
* Convenient Overlaid On-Screen Display via HDMI
* Optional iPod Dock / HDradio module via proprietary U.Port

TX-SR309 - 5.1-Channel 3-D Ready Home Theater Receiver
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* HDMI V1.4a repeater , 3in / 1out, 1080p compatible
* Support for 3D Video and Audio Return Channel
* TrueHD/DTS-HD decoding to support the latest Blu-ray technology
* 4 DSP Gaming Modes: Rock, Sports, Action, and Role Playing
* On-Screen Display via HDMI
* Burr-Brown DACs for improved jitter and clearer sound

Comparison Chart is Shared here.
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/73958065...NR509_TX-SR309


post #2 of 3823
Thread Starter 
I was considering HT-RC270 when I saw the new receivers on the Onkyo site. TX-NR609 looks really attractive. Anyone have any opinion on the new receivers Onkyo has announced? This seems to have the Marvell Qdeo processing now. Any incite on the performance of this video processor?
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Thread Starter 
Come on guys... Need some help here. I am torn between RC270, NR708, and NR609. Should I wait for NR609 or settle for NR708?
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So the 609 only has Audyssey 2EQ?? Little disappointed they didn't use Multi EQ
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Originally Posted by dhark View Post

So the 609 only has Audyssey 2EQ?? Little disappointed they didn't use Multi EQ

Well they do need to leave stuff for the mid range and higher end models. Can't have it all.
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I'm leaning towards the 609....

I need the DLNA aspect, I need the powered zone 2 for patio speakers.
I only need 5.1 for my normal day to day viewing.
The Iphone remote app will be useful.
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I was considering a 308 because it has ARC and 3D to go with my Samsung plasma. It is for a bedroom setup, so I did not want anything fancy. I was just waiting for the street price to drop, but apparently it is out of stock, and the price has gone up where it is in stock.

I am disappointed in the 309, because they removed the banana plug connectors (for the front speakers), and the HD radio port, despite adding OSD, it seems like a lesser unit now. Any thoughts?

Darren
post #8 of 3823
Be careful with the zone 2 use on Onkyo Receivers. They are only good for analog sources.
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509 just started to appear online but I was waiting for TX-NR609. Not really sure if the marvel chip will be of any help. And haven't had any Onkyo receivers yet
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With a sub $350 street price for a network enabled receiver that handles 3D, the TX-NR509 looks like a winner to me. Any owners care to post a mini-review?
post #11 of 3823
Anyone else notice the 609 has a VGA input?
No more ATI driver issues or trying to get HDMI audio, straight VGA with toslink out for a bulletproof HTPC setup.

i think it is time for my upgrade
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TX-SR309, 509 and 609 are out for a week now and nobody is making any comment on these receivers. Are these receivers any good? I am thinking about getting TX-SR309. Does anyone have any feedback on this receiver ?
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Just ordered the NR 609 from Amazon for 499. Should receive it on Apr 1 and will report back.

Funny the receiver was not available at Amazon until this morning. Yesterday I ordered Denon 1911 and am trying to cancel that order now as I am getting the 609.

Denon is great, but the limitations for me (based on reading) were:
- does not support 7.1 + 2 zone connection (not sure if 609 supports that - if anyone knows please let me know, otherwise will try when I receive it)
- only 4 HDMIs (609 has 6)
- no networking (NR 609 does not have airplay???, only windows)
- no Audyssey DSX (only Dolby Pro IIz) - not sure which is better, but I would rather have both

Drawbacks of NR 609 for me:
- no Audyssey MultiEQ (cheap bastards)
- no Airplay support, hopefully they will fix/ upgrade in the future.
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I am planning on making this my first legit receiver purchase and I would love to know what you think.

Thanks

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Originally Posted by nadorp View Post

Just ordered the NR 609 from Amazon for 499. Should receive it on Apr 1 and will report back.

Funny the receiver was not available at Amazon until this morning. Yesterday I ordered Denon 1911 and am trying to cancel that order now as I am getting the 609.

Denon is great, but the limitations for me (based on reading) were:
- does not support 7.1 + 2 zone connection (not sure if 609 supports that - if anyone knows please let me know, otherwise will try when I receive it)
- only 4 HDMIs (609 has 6)
- no networking (NR 609 does not have airplay???, only windows)
- no Audyssey DSX (only Dolby Pro IIz) - not sure which is better, but I would rather have both

Drawbacks of NR 609 for me:
- no Audyssey MultiEQ (cheap bastards)
- no Airplay support, hopefully they will fix/ upgrade in the future.
post #15 of 3823
Received the receiver today - love amazon $4 next day delivery.

I am totally blown away - compared to my 2 year old entry level yamaha that had a power down issue. I suspect I might have setup the Yamaha receiver wrong, this is how good 609 is.

Very quick to setup, love the on-screen menu, my 5.1 yamaha speakers sound incredible, understands Dolby and DTS that comes from my PC from Creative X-FI sound card (for mkv movies), video adjustments are great.

I have a very tall (30 feet) and wide living room - somewhat difficult setup, but the receiver brought my speakers and content to life.

I have not tried internet radio yet.

Onkyo remote app for iPhone is useful.

Playing iPhone 4 through the usb is great, connects quick and easy. It even displays covert art, although after a delay after you start the song, and the quality is not the best as it looks like it is widening the picture a bit.

DLNA from my windows PC also works well. Scrolling through pages is a bit slow, but I have a very very very big library so not surprising.

No complains so far. Except for the absence of Airplay :-((, but I knew that.

I just bought another pair of surround speakers to use as front height speakers for Audyssey DSX and Dolby D Pro IIz. Should arrive over the weekend and will test out.

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Originally Posted by nadorp View Post

Just ordered the NR 609 from Amazon for 499. Should receive it on Apr 1 and will report back.
post #16 of 3823
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Originally Posted by cab2349 View Post

Be careful with the zone 2 use on Onkyo Receivers. They are only good for analog sources.

I really hope that's not true on 609. Who uses analog sources these days?
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Yeah I am dissapointed it only has Audyssey 2EQ... I wish the 609 had at least Multi EQ XT...
post #18 of 3823
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Originally Posted by nadorp View Post

I really hope that's not true on 609. Who uses analog sources these days?

Since you have the receiver, can you confirm?
Thats gonna be a big bummer for me.....because of where I want to use this rec.
post #19 of 3823
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Originally Posted by nadorp View Post

I really hope that's not true on 609. Who uses analog sources these days?

That's generally how Zone 2 works. Not really a big deal as all you need to do is connect a set of stereo cables to the analog input on the receiver from the source. Doesn't affect the main listening area.
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Does NR609 support biamp? Seems yes from the mannul but it is not listed in the feature list on Onkyo's website... Anyone here tried? Any comment on the sound quality for music?

Now the price of NR609 is very close to RC207, not sure if the later is still considered a better deal if I don't care pre in/out that much - not usre if multiEQ makes that big a difference...
post #21 of 3823
They already have firmware updates posted for this models.
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Time to move my trusty Sansui G-7500 to the garage system and update to a network enabled AVR with 3D HDMI switching. Currently, I have a 2.0 setup with Monitor Audio RS6's connected as the 'A' speakers inside and 2 Boston Acoustic Voyagers connected as the 'B' speakers outside on the patio. This setup is able to play the same source inside and/or outside. I want to replicate this capability with a 5.1 AVR, play the same source inside and/or outside.
Looking at the new Onkyo TX-NR509 for $350, the owner's manual is HERE.

A couple of questions...

1. Confirm this is the correct speaker connection.
Connect the:
* MA RS6's as main speakers
* Voyagers as surrounds
* Set the AVR to output Stereo

2. How can I shut off the Voyagers when I don't want it playing outside?

Thanks.
post #23 of 3823
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Originally Posted by flatmm View Post

Does NR609 support biamp? Seems yes from the mannul but it is not listed in the feature list on Onkyo's website... Anyone here tried? Any comment on the sound quality for music?

Now the price of NR609 is very close to RC207, not sure if the later is still considered a better deal if I don't care pre in/out that much - not usre if multiEQ makes that big a difference...

I saw biamp in the menu, but have not tested that.

Sound Quality for music is great IMHO playing from iPhone through USB.
post #24 of 3823
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Originally Posted by afrogt View Post


That's generally how Zone 2 works. Not really a big deal as all you need to do is connect a set of stereo cables to the analog input on the receiver from the source. Doesn't affect the main listening area.

Thanks, I think I overreacted. Manual says analog only. Really not a big deal.
post #25 of 3823
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Originally Posted by defkon View Post

Yeah I am dissapointed it only has Audyssey 2EQ... I wish the 609 had at least Multi EQ XT...

Is this doing anything else apart from detecting the distance, level, polarity and crossover value? I adjusted that anyway to my liking - you can hear your adjustments as you do them so it is really easy through the on screen display.

I was put off first by absence of Multi EQ, but I do not care now.

Unless I am missing something...
post #26 of 3823
Just got this receiver and just love all the configurations. I am probably doing something wrong, but can not display the 4000k video setting. The best I can do is 1080/24P. My tv is an Bravia XBR 60LX900 3D. Connection is via HDMI out to HDMI into TV. The service manual has so much to read through.
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4000K?

You dont have a 4K TV.
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Originally Posted by kemac View Post

4000K?

You dont have a 4K TV.

Marvell Qdeo 4K Upscaling and Processing....
post #29 of 3823
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Originally Posted by jcord51 View Post

Marvell Qdeo™ 4K Upscaling and Processing....


Which means you need a 4K display or projector to take advantage of this feature, your TV is only capable of 1080P.
post #30 of 3823
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Originally Posted by kemac View Post

Which means you need a 4K display or projector to take advantage of this feature, your TV is only capable of 1080P.

In the words of Kelly Bundy you are a few Ks short of taking advantage of it. Youll need to cut some more out Ks out of the ads

On a more serious note..
The 4K is more of a marketing tool than anything, I do not beleive there are any current consumer 4K display devices. They could have an 8K chip in there, but you will only be able to display the max resultion of your TV (720p, 1080p, ect).
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