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post #1321 of 3821
first time to post in this site.......hope I'm in the right place....

question....just bought a 509 and really like almost everything about it....great sound and plenty 'o hdmi capabilities...........all is working great and as advertised......(switching and all inputs)

does this unit have a/b switching function??? and if not...........how would I go about playing "just" my two outside speakers and or both my inside and outside speakers??? I have 2 bose speakers inside and 2 bose speakers outside.........

one of the spec sheets I read stated that this model has an a/b switch...but I am unable to see it...

thanks..for any help...
Johnny
post #1322 of 3821
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Originally Posted by 4mula1 View Post

With my 609 Audessey setup, I did 1: middle position, 2: right, 3: left, and I have no unbalance of sound.

Interesting. Have you tried it the other way? I'm curious how your results will differ.
post #1323 of 3821
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Originally Posted by ultranaut View Post

Interesting. Have you tried it the other way? I'm curious how your results will differ.

Actually, I am afraid to. I might not be able to get it back to the way I have it now.
post #1324 of 3821
This Saturday I'll be installing the 509 I bought for a friend. Two questions which I hope are quick and easy.

1) Is the only difference between the "quick" and full Audyssey set-up one microphone position vs. three?

2) If she is never going to stream anything over it, is there any reason to update the firmware? If I need to, is there any reason to prefer connecting directly to my router with an ethernet cable over downloading the files onto a USB thumb drive, or vice-versa? (I will of course have the 509 plugged into a UPS.)

Thanks.
post #1325 of 3821
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Originally Posted by sumik View Post

Quick few question if 509 is good for my low budget of around $200.

Need new receiver cuz my 606 just died.
Will run the following things, in a very small room.
-ps3
-laptop via hdmi
-dvd
-5.1 small shelf size Polk speakers

What's a good place to buy one, did these go on sale yet anywhere ?

Two weeks ago I got one for a friend at Fry's for $199. I set it up quickly at home to make sure it wasn't DOA. So, no extended listening to give you a full answer, but I can't see how you could get much more receiver than this for $200. Unless you want to wait 6 months for the newest latest and greatest, and these being blown out somewhere for $99. :-)
post #1326 of 3821
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Originally Posted by Goes to 11 View Post

This Saturday I'll be installing the 509 I bought for a friend. Two questions which I hope are quick and easy.

1) Is the only difference between the "quick" and full Audyssey set-up one microphone position vs. three?

2) If she is never going to stream anything over it, is there any reason to update the firmware? If I need to, is there any reason to prefer connecting directly to my router with an ethernet cable over downloading the files onto a USB thumb drive, or vice-versa? (I will of course have the 509 plugged into a UPS.)

Thanks.

1) Full Audyssey has up to 8 positions on my old 705. If I understand your question correctly.
2) Firmware updates do not only update network streaming. So, I would recommend firmware updates. While others say "if it aint broke..."
post #1327 of 3821
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Originally Posted by Goes to 11 View Post

1) Is the only difference between the "quick" and full Audyssey set-up one microphone position vs. three?

Thanks.

Hi Goes to 11, "Quick" performs speaker settings only where as "Full" performs room correction and speaker settings. Also note when doing "Quick" Audyssey cannot be selected, only "Full" will enable Audyssey and options.
post #1328 of 3821
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Originally Posted by mrjohnniesue View Post

does this unit have a/b switching function??? and if not...........how would I go about playing "just" my two outside speakers and or both my inside and outside speakers??? I have 2 bose speakers inside and 2 bose speakers outside.........

one of the spec sheets I read stated that this model has an a/b switch...but I am unable to see it...

thanks..for any help...
Johnny

Hi mrjohnniesue, NR509 does not have A&B speaker terminals or selection but does have Zone 2 pre-outs. So you'll need to get a 2CH stereo amp and connect the outside speakers to it and then connect it to the Zone 2 pre-outs. And another note is only components connected to analog inputs can be played in Zone 2.
post #1329 of 3821
My DVR will convert video output to 1080i. I then have 609 convert that to 1080p. Is it better, worse or the same if I were to have DVR output native video (mostly 720p) and have the 609 convert that signal to 1080p? Thereby eliminating a double up convert and only converting the original source.
post #1330 of 3821
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Originally Posted by 4mula1 View Post

My DVR will convert video output to 1080i. I then have 609 convert that to 1080p. Is it better, worse or the same if I were to have DVR output native video (mostly 720p) and have the 609 convert that signal to 1080p? Thereby eliminating a double up convert and only converting the original source.

Hi 4mula1, hard to give an answer but try out the various combinations of settings to see which looks best, you may not notice a difference. By the way, did the new AVR correct the DVR problem you was having (default back to 480i)?
post #1331 of 3821
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Originally Posted by JChin View Post

Hi Goes to 11, "Quick" performs speaker settings only where as "Full" performs room correction and speaker settings. Also note when doing "Quick" Audyssey cannot be selected, only "Full" will enable Audyssey and options.

Hey JChin, good to know. Thanks. And 4mula, thank you, too. I guess if I were keeping it myself, I'd go the "if it ain't broke" route. But she lives a long ways away, and if it turns out down the road it needed an update, she won't know how to do it. So I guess maybe I better.
post #1332 of 3821
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Originally Posted by JChin View Post

Hi 4mula1, hard to give an answer but try out the various combinations of settings to see which looks best, you may not notice a difference. By the way, did the new AVR correct the DVR problem you was having (default back to 480i)?

Actually, I don't notice any difference with my eye. I was just wondering which would give the best picture, so in my mind I would know it was the best. And as for the previous HDMI issue, the new AVR did not resolve. And I acutally sent the new one back and kept my old one so I wouldn't have to set everything back up.
post #1333 of 3821
Here is a strange new problem that even a power cycle doesn't seem to resolve:

My BD-player audio no longer works using bitstream out, at least not when streaming a movie via Netflix. It's hooked up via HDMI, and I am 100% certain it was working previously. I have no idea what changed and I'm not in the mood to troubleshoot anymore, it works still using PCM and that is good enough for now.
post #1334 of 3821
I just hooked up my 509, putting it through basics. I noticed that it seems to take a while to sync up with the input mode from my PC.

I have NVidia audio over HDMI, and when I e.g. go into my audio settings and have it play the little test music, it drops the first part of the audio. I'll hear the trailing end of it only.

Seems it's struggling to quickly select the right input format. I tried PCM and DTS for the HDMI Fixed input, I didn't get any audio. Any ideas?

One other issue I noticed is I get a lot of video corruption from the OSD in certain circumstances. For example if I go into the setup OSD depending on what source I have, or especially the 'Net' OSD, I get weird flickering, like jittery text. This is over a high speed HDMI cable from the receiver straight to the TV (Panasonic 65S1). I'm having odd issues with this TV like HDCP doesn't work and I'm getting a new GT30 Friday, so not too worried about this one yet but wonder if anyone's seen it.
post #1335 of 3821
I have the same problem with nvidia and the 609

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Originally Posted by jvrobert View Post

I just hooked up my 509, putting it through basics. I noticed that it seems to take a while to sync up with the input mode from my PC.

I have NVidia audio over HDMI, and when I e.g. go into my audio settings and have it play the little test music, it drops the first part of the audio. I'll hear the trailing end of it only.

Seems it's struggling to quickly select the right input format. I tried PCM and DTS for the HDMI Fixed input, I didn't get any audio. Any ideas?

One other issue I noticed is I get a lot of video corruption from the OSD in certain circumstances. For example if I go into the setup OSD depending on what source I have, or especially the 'Net' OSD, I get weird flickering, like jittery text. This is over a high speed HDMI cable from the receiver straight to the TV (Panasonic 65S1). I'm having odd issues with this TV like HDCP doesn't work and I'm getting a new GT30 Friday, so not too worried about this one yet but wonder if anyone's seen it.
post #1336 of 3821
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Originally Posted by jim tressler View Post

I have the same problem with nvidia and the 609

I wonder if it's NVidia specific or just something with any PC/HDMI. I guess it's nothing much to worry about, for e.g. a movie or something it will switch once and stick to same output.
post #1337 of 3821
Same here. It works fine for xbmc and other media players
post #1338 of 3821
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Originally Posted by jvrobert View Post

I wonder if it's NVidia specific or just something with any PC/HDMI. I guess it's nothing much to worry about, for e.g. a movie or something it will switch once and stick to same output.

I don't have that problem with my HTPC, running XBMC over an ATI card (Dell Inspiron 410),
post #1339 of 3821
I've really been happy with my TX-NR609 so far. My previous receiver had problems pushing anything to the surround speakers and the connectivity options were lacking. Being able to pipe all of my HDMI video into this and have it act as the audio/video switch box as well has made life a lot easier....not to mention for the less technically inclined.

I haven't plugged it into the network yet, but I'm working on setting up a HTPC and am waiting until that's ready before I plug the Onkyo and HTPC into the network. I'm really looking forward to seeing how this is going to change the home theater setup we have. Next step is to upgrade the KLH speakers and Dayton sub to something you can call a speaker. In college they were cheap and loud, but now I'm more worried about it sounding like the audio engineer intended for the it to sound when watching Blurays.

I've been looking at Polk and Axiom currently. Definitely ready to see what I can do with this new receiver.
post #1340 of 3821
Can I stream videos from a mediaserver (WMP, TVersity, Android phone e.g.) to the 509 by selecting the 509 as the target?

[EDIT] Ok, just got an answer from Onkyo Germany via Facebook. You can but no picture - only sound
post #1341 of 3821
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Originally Posted by uwdus View Post

Can I stream videos from a mediaserver (WMP, TVersity, Android phone e.g.) to the 509 by selecting the 509 as the target?

The 509 understands DLNA, so I have played music from my XBMC HTPC (which is a media server). My friends plays audio from WMP 12 on his Win 7 PC using his 509. It won't play video, only audio, by choosing DLNA from the NET menu.
post #1342 of 3821
First I apologize if this has been asked already and I missed it. I just bought the 609 model yesterday (upgraded from the SR705). I love the receiver so far with the exception of one problem. I have a Mits 46" LED and Comcast as my cable provider (Moto DCX 3400 cable box). Running HDMI from Cable box to Receiver (HDMI 2 I think) and then of course HDMI to the TV. The problem is everytime I turn the tv and receiver on (the cable box stays on, never turns off), the receiver (I'm assuming here since it didn't do it before) pushes the cable box to go from "Native" (either 720p or 1080i) to 480p every single time. I have to power off the cable box, fix the resolution, then turn back on. Have I missed some setting on the receiver? If anyone can help, I would be so appreciative. Thanks!
post #1343 of 3821
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Originally Posted by libracolo View Post

First I apologize if this has been asked already and I missed it. I just bought the 609 model yesterday (upgraded from the SR705). I love the receiver so far with the exception of one problem. I have a Mits 46" LED and Comcast as my cable provider (Moto DCX 3400 cable box). Running HDMI from Cable box to Receiver (HDMI 2 I think) and then of course HDMI to the TV. The problem is everytime I turn the tv and receiver on (the cable box stays on, never turns off), the receiver (I'm assuming here since it didn't do it before) pushes the cable box to go from "Native" (either 720p or 1080i) to 480p every single time. I have to power off the cable box, fix the resolution, then turn back on. Have I missed some setting on the receiver? If anyone can help, I would be so appreciative. Thanks!

Yep, I have the same issue. My previous Onkyo 705 did not do this. No resolution has been found. And, I have 2 DVRs. It only does this with my DCX model, not the DCT model. I have tried turning each device on in different order, but nothing seems to work. I have a Mitsubishi WD-73737. The bulb had burnt out last week, so until replacement bulb came, I hooked up my 32" Vizio LED. Get this, the DCX did NOT do this resolution change with the Vizio. I am totally confused as I don't see how the TV could be the culprit. There is, however, an easy work around until we figure this out. There is a "format" button on the front of the DVR. Once everything is turned on, I just hit that a couple of times and it goes back to 1080i. If you figure something out, please post and let us know. I will do the same.
post #1344 of 3821
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Originally Posted by 4mula1 View Post

Yep, I have the same issue. My previous Onkyo 705 did not do this. No resolution has been found. And, I have 2 DVRs. It only does this with my DCX model, not the DCT model. I have tried turning each device on in different order, but nothing seems to work. I have a Mitsubishi WD-73737. The bulb had burnt out last week, so until replacement bulb came, I hooked up my 32" Vizio LED. Get this, the DCX did NOT do this resolution change with the Vizio. I am totally confused as I don't see how the TV could be the culprit. There is, however, an easy work around until we figure this out. There is a "format" button on the front of the DVR. Once everything is turned on, I just hit that a couple of times and it goes back to 1080i. If you figure something out, please post and let us know. I will do the same.

Thanks for the reply. I don't claim to be an expert, but it seems that the receiver is pushing the signal out (to the box), so I would think the receiver has the bug, but since you mentioned that it doesn't happen with the DCT, I think maybe the Moto has the bug. I tried to open a ticket with Comcast (not sure if you have them, but here in Colorado the Customer Service is abyssmal to say the least), so I've sent an email to someone who works in the escalation dept to see who I can talk to. I wonder if maybe the Moto just needs a firmware upgrade (if you can upgrade). I like leaving the box set to "Native", and it becomes tiresome to have to reset the box each time. The Mits you have, isn't that a DLP? I traded the 65" inch DLP model for the LED....I went smaller but I like the setup better. This receiver would be AWESOME if only I could figure this "bug" out. Sorry if I went a bit off-topic, and I appreciate knowing I'm not the only one with the issue. I'll post back when I hear from Comcast, and I'm gonna try to open a support ticket with Onkyo as well..... If anyone else has any ideas, I'd love to hear em..... -Rick
post #1345 of 3821
Hello!
I really like the TX-NR609 , but i live in Argentina where current is 220 v.
If i buy this receiver i should use a Step down transformer.
For what i've heard , this is not good at all , i've read when you step up there is an increase in noise and distortion , that AV receiver manufacturers dedicate part of the budget on the Power Supply.

Should i try a different option , for example Yamaha wich has a 110-220 power supply , or to stick with the TX-NR609 ?
post #1346 of 3821
Just finished watching my first BluRay DVD via my new 609. TrueHD kicked in and sounded amazing on the new Transformers. This unit handled everything with all the punch this movie offered. Highly recommend this movie as a test bed. The thunder of the bass is incredible while throwing the sound to every speaker in my 6.1 system.

The 609 handled my Martin Logan speakers without a hiccup. This is just an outstanding AVR.
post #1347 of 3821
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Originally Posted by ftboomer View Post

Just finished watching my first BluRay DVD via my new 609. TrueHD kicked in and sounded amazing on the new Transformers. This unit handled everything with all the punch this movie offered. Highly recommend this movie as a test bed. The thunder of the bass is incredible while throwing the sound to every speaker in my 6.1 system.

The 609 handled my Martin Logan speakers without a hiccup. This is just an outstanding AVR.

What speakers do you have?
post #1348 of 3821
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Originally Posted by duffda View Post

What speakers do you have?


Aerius i

http://www.martinlogan.com/products/aeriusi
post #1349 of 3821
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Originally Posted by ftboomer View Post


Aerius i

http://www.martinlogan.com/products/aeriusi

Wow, great speakers. I'm glad the 609 works so well.
post #1350 of 3821
Hi, I'm terribly sorry if this question has been asked before but I'm a little tipsy and my search function skills are less than stellar.

I'm contemplating getting the Onkyo TX-NR609 but I have a question that could possibly be a deal breaker depending on the responses I get from you tech-savvy lot.

If I bought this receiver, I would connect a Xbox 360, PS3, and PC to it via HDMI. I would also have a Slingbox Pro HD connected to a cable box at a remote location via component. I would sling the video to my PC which as mentioned before, is connected to the recevier via HDMI.

Here is where the curveball comes in. I also have a Hauppauge HD PVR 1212, which I would like to use to record anything my heart desires whether it be from a videogame or recording HD content from Time Warner

My ultimate question is: Would the HD-PVR work if it was connected to the component output of the Onkyo receiver? Is the Onkyo receiver capable of taking a digital source (HDMI) input, and transferring it to an analog signal (Component Output).

I know a lot of entry level receivers are unable to convert a digital input into an analog output but I'm simply too stupid to understand if this particular model can. Thousands of dollars may be at stake here, so please if you are an authority on this situation, help me out. Thanks!

Does HDCP make what I want to do impossible??
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