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post #1381 of 3629
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Originally Posted by Charles R View Post

Any chance the TX-NR609 is discontinued? It's no longer at Amazon and I see Fry's has it on sale locally for $299 (in lieu of the RC360).

Probably not since its just hitting its prime. Crutchfield has had them on sale afaik since they were released.

I currently have the nr1007 and don't like it bc it runs so hot I don't even use my a/c anymore... thinking about getting the 709. I wouldn't have to pay more bc I got the 1007 that was a floor model. What u guys think? Have all y'all had better luck and less failures? How about sound quaility vs the 07?
And this is probably a dumb ? But anyone coming from a denon can commit on there diffefernces/experiences?
post #1382 of 3629
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Originally Posted by Charles R View Post

Any chance the TX-NR609 is discontinued? It's no longer at Amazon and I see Fry's has it on sale locally for $299 (in lieu of the RC360).

Amazon still has it.

http://www.amazon.com/Onkyo-TX-NR609...8007043&sr=8-1
post #1383 of 3629
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Originally Posted by 4mula1 View Post

Amazon still has it.

http://www.amazon.com/Onkyo-TX-NR609...8007043&sr=8-1

You're right... sorry. Before searches were coming up empty.
post #1384 of 3629
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Originally Posted by Charles R View Post

Any chance the TX-NR609 is discontinued? It's no longer at Amazon and I see Fry's has it on sale locally for $299 (in lieu of the RC360).

Also, the price at Fry's should be good until Friday of next week (the 14th).
post #1385 of 3629
I saw the Fry's Ad this morning with the RC360 on for $299. Decided to go into work and do some quick AVScience research on the receiver. Ok, so I figured I could live without the THX certification and just get RC360. Went to Frys at lunch and looked to see if by chance they had the TX-NR609 and sure enough they did at $299. In fact they were out of the RC360s. I grabbed a 609 and saw another guy looking for the RC360 and explained the differences. He also bought a 609. Thanks to the AVScience community for the good reports on this receiver. Will get it installed this weekend with my new Optoma HD3300 projector and BD6700 Blu-Ray.
post #1386 of 3629
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Originally Posted by afrogt View Post

I sure hope you plan to have some room for ventilation! AVRs need room to breathe.

I should have about 2.5" above and very open air on all 4 sides. I might have to go to work on my tv stand to make more room, as part of the front comes down enough to obstruct the volume knob and possibly the display.

Someone mentioned fry's having the 609 for $299. I saw this on their site this morning and added it to my cart. A couple hours later I finally got the courage to pull the trigger and found the shopping cart was empty and the 609 isn't even listed on their website anywhere.
post #1387 of 3629
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Originally Posted by Jorge M View Post

It's a defect alright. Mine is on the latest firmware and still does it. I don't know what you mean by hardware defect, but I can tell you this:
  1. Like you, I have a TiVo HD connected via optical
  2. My old (pre-HDMI) Onkyo was connected the same way and had no issues
  3. I think this is a design defect, not a defect with only some units (but too few are in our position to encounter it)
  4. I think it could be solved via firmware, but Onkyo just doesn't care (see #3)
Rob, you said here that Onkyo is not initializing the output buffers this year. Could that explain our problem, or did you mean network buffers?

I called Onkyo support and they had me verify I'm on the latest firmware and reset the receiver and check if the problem was still there - which it was. Another tech is supposed to call back but I'm not sure what else can be done if this is a known issue. Thinking I may have to return this one to Amazon and get something different.
post #1388 of 3629
A number of the stores in the SFO Bay Area have 609s on the shelf for $299. Interestingly, the stores seem to be out of the RC360.
post #1389 of 3629
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Originally Posted by jablon10 View Post


I called Onkyo support and they had me verify I'm on the latest firmware and reset the receiver and check if the problem was still there - which it was. Another tech is supposed to call back but I'm not sure what else can be done if this is a known issue. Thinking I may have to return this one to Amazon and get something different.

Well. In regards to the post you quoted, the buffers I spoke of were the network buffers. If they didn't bother to initialize the output buffers, then I don't think it's too far out of line to assume they didn't do the same with the input buffers.

This is important because if they don't, and they also read the data off the network into such a buffer then copy it assuming it is a null terminated string, I can easily see where they can get buffer overruns and corrupt their stack.

Actually, typing that gives me an idea. I need to check my message format and compare it to the Onkyo app's format to make sure they and I understand message size the same way. I follow the protocol sheet, but I do know some other control apps send over a differently calculated size and the AVR still accepts the message as valid. It really should not do that. They also should have implemented a message checksum like Yamaha, but they didn't. I can't complain too much since Onkyo's protocol is by far the most complete and consistent among the past 5 or so years of their receivers compared to other brands.
post #1390 of 3629
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Originally Posted by rworne View Post

Well. In regards to the post you quoted, the buffers I spoke of were the network buffers. If they didn't bother to initialize the output buffers, then I don't think it's too far out of line to assume they didn't do the same with the input buffers.

The problem I have with the NR609 is not network related. The receiver puts out a high pitched noise at the end of Tivo recordings or sometimes when I change channels.
post #1391 of 3629
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Originally Posted by jablon10 View Post

The problem I have with the NR609 is not network related. The receiver puts out a high pitched noise at the end of Tivo recordings or sometimes when I change channels.

I used a couple of 509s with TiVo and luckily never saw this issue.
post #1392 of 3629
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Originally Posted by 4mula1 View Post

But, what is weird, is that when I had the Vizio LED connected to the DCX via the 609, it did not change resolution on me. And, the moment I connected the DLP back, it would change to 480i the moment the indication that the HDMI handshake was taking place.

I'm working with one of the engineers at Comcast to try and find a workaround (or a bug fix). One of the questions he had (and I'm not sure of) is if this receiver has the capability to be setup to just pass the native output without trying to adjust the output? It does seem to happen after the receiver makes the handshake. If anyone has any ideas on this as well, all help would be very much appreciated.
post #1393 of 3629
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Originally Posted by Charles R View Post

I used a couple of 509s with TiVo and luckily never saw this issue.

That's encouraging to hear. What kind of Tivo's and how were they connected to the AVR?

Has anyone else had good/bad experiences with Tivo's and a recent Onkyo AVR?
post #1394 of 3629
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Originally Posted by Charles R View Post

I used a couple of 509s with TiVo and luckily never saw this issue.

Or are "lucky" enough not to hear it. It is really high-pitched, high enough that my wife sitting next to me doesn't hear it at all (it's outside of her hearing range). Then again, it's sometimes accompanied by pops and clicks -- I think you would've definitely heard those if you had the issue.
post #1395 of 3629
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Originally Posted by Jorge M View Post

Or are "lucky" enough not to hear it. It is really high-pitched, high enough that my wife sitting next to me doesn't hear it at all (it's outside of her hearing range). Then again, it's sometimes accompanied by pops and clicks -- I think you would've definitely heard those if you had the issue.

My wife never heard them either. I used two 509s with my TiVo Premiere for several weeks... two months tops and hundreds of shows without an issue via HDMI.
post #1396 of 3629
Hi all-

I am hoping somebody here can answer a quick question for me. I ordered the 609 and set everything up. After setting it all up, I noticed that the volume knob is lit white, with an almost violet tint. I am coming from an Onkyo 705 that has a blue volume knob and this 609 was listed as having a bright blue light. Is there something wrong with mine, or is that what the colr is supposed to be.

Thanks!

p.s. I know alot don't care about the color, or don't want it on at all, but I came to love the blue light
post #1397 of 3629
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Originally Posted by srj45 View Post

Hi all-

I am hoping somebody here can answer a quick question for me. I ordered the 609 and set everything up. After setting it all up, I noticed that the volume knob is lit white, with an almost violet tint. I am coming from an Onkyo 705 that has a blue volume knob and this 609 was listed as having a bright blue light. Is there something wrong with mine, or is that what the colr is supposed to be.

Thanks!

p.s. I know alot don't care about the color, or don't want it on at all, but I came to love the blue light

Yours sounds pretty much what mine looks like. Or, looked like, until I figured out how to just turn the light off.
post #1398 of 3629
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Originally Posted by Charles R View Post

My wife never heard them either. I used two 509s with my TiVo Premiere for several weeks... two months tops and hundreds of shows without an issue via HDMI.

I have the audio issues and I've got a Tivo HD connected with component video and optical audio. My HDMI port on the Tivo came loose on the motherboard.... but that's another story.
post #1399 of 3629
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Originally Posted by rjdenver View Post

Yours sounds pretty much what mine looks like. Or, looked like, until I figured out how to just turn the light off.

Thanks for the response rjdenver. I wonder why the cnet review says it bright blue. Does anybody have 1 that is blue instead of white?
post #1400 of 3629
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Originally Posted by srj45 View Post

Thanks for the response rjdenver. I wonder why the cnet review says it bright blue. Does anybody have 1 that is blue instead of white?


Yeah, mine's blue\\white but I have the dimmer set to it's lowest point (position 3, I think) via ORemote.
post #1401 of 3629
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Originally Posted by Charles R View Post

My wife never heard them either. I used two 509s with my TiVo Premiere for several weeks... two months tops and hundreds of shows without an issue via HDMI.

So it seems hooking the TiVo up via HDMI might avoid the problem. Like jablon, my TiVo HD is connected to the 609 via component video and optical audio. (I'm assuming the HD and the Premiere function much the same software-wise, as do the 509 and 609).

Thanks for helping us narrow it down, Charles!

Jablon, we could test this theory by connecting via HDMI. I can't do it, though, because of my TV. I assume you're in the same boat or you would've used HDMI to begin with?
post #1402 of 3629
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Originally Posted by Jorge M View Post

Jablon, we could test this theory by connecting via HDMI. I can't do it, though, because of my TV. I assume you're in the same boat or you would've used HDMI to begin with?

The HDMI port on my Tivo is broken, so I can't test it out.

Onkyo support finally said they can't do anything and I should return it to Amazon if I'm in my return window. Looks like this thing is going back. I'll post an update if I end up getting another NR609.
post #1403 of 3629
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Originally Posted by rworne View Post

FYI: I have no idea what they charge for this wireless adaptor, but there is also a device sold by Netgear that is used to connect an Ethernet only device to wireless networks. This costs about $40. I have no idea what the Onkyo device will cost, but I suspect it won't be that cheap.

I did a little snooping around in Google searching for the chipset inside the UWF-1. I don't recall at the moment what it was but I found other dongles using the same chip. I bought a TP-Link model TL-WN722N for $15 and my 609 recognized it right away. I entered my PW and was up and running in a couple of minutes.
post #1404 of 3629
I bought the Actual Onkyo version of the WiFi USB adapter from Amazon the same time I bought the 609 and it was only $23
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Can the NR609 convert from 1080p to 1080i? I have monitor output set to 1080i yet i am seeing to images on my Elite 720

My Elite 720 is component so i have a hdmi to component converter in line. My Direct TV signal is perfect but my Mac mini and the net screen on teh NR609 result in two pictures side by side on the tv with a bar down the middle. Please help.
post #1406 of 3629
I have the 609. The right rear surround sound makes a popping sound sometimes during dvd playback. It doesnt seem to do it during blu ray or music. I have switched the speaker and speaker wire so either the sound is built into multiple dvds I have or its the receiver. Anything I can try to fix this issue before sending it to bestbuy for replacement? Its not a huge deal but to a hear a faint popping now and again drives me crazy. Thanks
post #1407 of 3629
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Originally Posted by ftboomer View Post

I bought the Actual Onkyo version of the WiFi USB adapter from Amazon the same time I bought the 609 and it was only $23

The UWF-1, It's cute and it's neat but unlike the uglier, cheaper TP-Link it's a one trick Pony.
post #1408 of 3629
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Originally Posted by libracolo View Post

I'm working with one of the engineers at Comcast to try and find a workaround (or a bug fix). One of the questions he had (and I'm not sure of) is if this receiver has the capability to be setup to just pass the native output without trying to adjust the output? It does seem to happen after the receiver makes the handshake. If anyone has any ideas on this as well, all help would be very much appreciated.

Yes, it has the ability to just "pass through" the signal. I have not tried that yet to see if it eliminates the issue. But, even if it did, I would not want it set that way, as I want the 609 to up convert to 1080p.
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Earlier this month, the latest firmware update was dated 09.15.2011. Now that 10.04.2011 has come out, the previous update was changed to 09.14.2011. So, I did 09.15.2011 update as soon as it was posted. This weekend, I downloaded and attempted to install the 10.04.2011 update. Only to be told that I have the current and up to date firmware. What the heck is Onkyo doing?
post #1410 of 3629
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Originally Posted by 4mula1 View Post

Earlier this month, the latest firmware update was dated 09.15.2011. Now that 10.04.2011 has come out, the previous update was changed to 09.14.2011. So, I did 09.15.2011 update as soon as it was posted. This weekend, I downloaded and attempted to install the 10.04.2011 update. Only to be told that I have the current and up to date firmware. What the heck is Samsung doing?

You mean Onkyo? :-)

From what I'd read, they messed up the firmware version number in the docs and had to release a new set of documentation. If you updated to September's firmware you have the latest one.
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