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post #1591 of 3823
Anyone using the 609 with a Harmony One remote, can you provide any advice on activities you use to fully use the Harmony One with this receiver?
post #1592 of 3823
As a reference for anyone trying to figure out a way to control their AVR, I just thought I'd post my very ugly, unfinished proof of concept...

You can use it to control your TX-NR609 (or 509/709/etc.) with a simple bash script on a Linux (or any unix system with a bash like shell and netcat (nc)) system.

I might look around for a basic Android tablet though... :P

Code:
#!/bin/bash
#
# Simple script to control my Onkyo TX-NR609 from any linux host
# using just bash (or sh) and netcat (nc), works on my Nokia N900.

# Set the IP and PORT of your AVR
IP=192.168.1.132
PORT=60128

########################################
if [ $# -lt 1 ]; then
        echo "$0 mute, unmute, off, on, vup, vdown, ..."
    exit 1
fi

# Command to send: 
for i in "$@"; 
do
    case $i in
    forcemute)
        COMMAND='!1AMT01'
        echo "Muting"
        ;;
    forceunmute)
        COMMAND='!1AMT00'
        echo "Unmuting"
        ;;
    mute)
        COMMAND='!1AMTTG'
        echo "Toggling Mute"
        ;;
    mutestat)
        COMMAND='!1AMTQSTN'
        echo "Mute Status"
        ;;
    off)
        COMMAND='!1PWR00'
        echo "Power off"
        ;;
    on)
        COMMAND='!1PWR01'
        echo "Power on"
        ;;
    vup)
        COMMAND='!1MVLUP'
        echo "Volume up"
        ;;
    vdown)
        COMMAND='!1MVLDOWN'
        echo "Volume down"
        ;;
    pwrstat)
        COMMAND='!1PWRQSTN'
        echo "Power Status"
        ;;
    z2on)
        COMMAND='!1ZPW01'
        echo "Zone 2 on"
        ;;
    z2off)
        COMMAND='!1ZPW00'
        echo "Zone 2 off"
        ;;
    z2stat)
        COMMAND='!1ZPWQSTN'
        echo "Zone 2 Status"
        ;;
    z2vdown)
        COMMAND='!1ZVLDOWN'
        echo "Zone 2 Volume Down"
        ;;
    z2vup)
        COMMAND='!1ZVLUP'
        echo "Zone 2 Volume Up"
        ;;
    z2vstat)
        COMMAND='!1ZVLQSTN'
        echo "Zone 2 Volume Stat"
        ;;
    *)
        echo "$0 mute, unmute, off, on, vup, vdown, ..."
        exit 1
        ;;
    esac

    ############
    # String to send is :
    ISCP="ISCP\\x00\\x00\\x00\\x10\\x00\\x00\\x00"
    LENGTH=$(echo "\\x$(printf "%0.2x" $(echo $COMMAND | wc -c ))")
    MID="\\x01\\x00\\x00\\x00"
    CMD=${COMMAND} # Just to show the command's structure. :-P
    END="\\x0D"
    ##########
    # Mute example :
    # echo -e 'ISCP\\x00\\x00\\x00\\x10\\x00\\x00\\x00\\x08\\x01\\x00\\x00\\x00!1AMT00\\x0D' | nc $IP $PORT

    # (-i 1) allows you to get the status information sent back, not used at the moment...
    echo -en "${ISCP}${LENGTH}${MID}${CMD}${END}" | nc -i 1 $IP $PORT

    # A little pause if more than one argument is used, you can't send commands too quickly it seems!
    if [ $# -gt 1 ] ; then
        sleep 1;
    fi 
done
post #1593 of 3823
define activities? I used the one and then upgraded to the 900 - both work great. The most helpfull thing I did was create an activity for the NET radio settings.
post #1594 of 3823
Quote:
Originally Posted by benz1980i View Post

I worked it out myself. Reset setting back to defult by holding down "VCR" then pressing the power button. I inserted the USB wifi and it worked this time

Does this reset just the network settings or does it reset eveything back to default? I don't feel like starting over from scratch if I don't have to.
post #1595 of 3823
Quote:
Originally Posted by |R| View Post

# A little pause if more than one argument is used, you can't send commands too quickly it seems!
if [ $# -gt 1 ] ; then
sleep 1;
fi
done

Yes, you need to be careful. Onkyo says 50ms, but I give it 100ms. To fast and you manage to corrupt the stack in the receiver.
post #1596 of 3823
Quote:
Originally Posted by beekermartin View Post

I attempted to connect to the internet using a hard wired connection and it didn't work. I then plugged in the wifi usb dongle again and nothing happens. I have to assume somehow the network settings got corrupted. Is there a way to reset it?

To reset the receiver (reset everything back to factory default, auto setup will need to be rerun):
- turn receiver on
- while holding down the [VCR/DVR] button
- press the [ON/STANDBY] button
- “Clear” will appear on the display and the receiver will enter Standby mode

But before doing so, try removing ethernet cable, power down, and unplug receiver power cord from wall outlet for a few minutes. Then reconnect ethernet cable, power cord and power up receiver.
post #1597 of 3823
Quote:
Originally Posted by JChin View Post

To reset the receiver (reset everything back to factory default, auto setup will need to be rerun):
- turn receiver on
- while holding down the [VCR/DVR] button
- press the [ON/STANDBY] button
- Clear will appear on the display and the receiver will enter Standby mode

But before doing so, try removing ethernet cable, power down, and unplug receiver power cord from wall outlet for a few minutes. Then reconnect ethernet cable, power cord and power up receiver.

So by doing this it resets the entire receiver to the factory defaults? I imagine that means I will have to start over from scratch, naming the inputs, running Audyssey, setting the video output resolution, etc.
post #1598 of 3823
Quote:
Originally Posted by spitfirees20 View Post

Hey Everybody,

I've been combing the threads, but I can't seem to find anybody else with the same issue as me, or at least a recommendation to fix it. All I have hooked up to my TX-NR509 is my mac mini via HDMI for video and 3.5mm to RCA for audio, but the video coming out of my tv and speakers isn't synced up. I can't just add a delay to the receiver for audio because I also use this setup as a computer for gaming, so the lag is unacceptable. What options do I have to fix this? Should I just do audio through the reciever and then run the HDMI straight from the mac mini into the tv, or is there some other setting that I somehow haven't found yet?

Thanks in advance.

Hi spitfirees20, I believe the mac mini headphone jack can output digitial (check to mac mini manual). And if the macmini headphone jack can output digital, you can use an mini to toslink cable to see if that would help with delay.
post #1599 of 3823
Quote:
Originally Posted by beekermartin View Post

So by doing this it resets the entire receiver to the factory defaults? I imagine that means I will have to start over from scratch, naming the inputs, running Audyssey, setting the video output resolution, etc.

Thats correct .
post #1600 of 3823
Well I am planning on installing the most recent update. Maybe that will fix the network error I am having. If not I will reset the receiver and start over. Is there any other way to reset the network settings besides resetting the entire receiver???
post #1601 of 3823
Quote:
Originally Posted by beekermartin View Post

Well I am planning on installing the most recent update. Maybe that will fix the network error I am having. If not I will reset the receiver and start over. Is there any other way to reset the network settings besides resetting the entire receiver???

I didn't see most of the thread aside from the full reset. But pulling the AC plug also resets the network stack. It doesn't erase any of your settings, but simply powering off the unit will not clear a hosed network. I'd try that first.
post #1602 of 3823
Quote:
Originally Posted by Milehigh View Post

Anyone using the 609 with a Harmony One remote, can you provide any advice on activities you use to fully use the Harmony One with this receiver?

Yes actually. Got it set up with the Harmony One using the Logitech software. I moved a couple items to the first page on the LCD screen (Setup, Return, etc) and everything is working great!
post #1603 of 3823
Quote:
Originally Posted by JChin View Post

Hi spitfirees20, I believe the mac mini headphone jack can output digitial (check to mac mini manual). And if the macmini headphone jack can output digital, you can use an mini to toslink cable to see if that would help with delay.

Sorry, the problem was with the video being delayed, not the audio. I actually fixed it last night by first moving hdmi directly into the tv, and then going into the display settings of the mac and changing it from 24hz to 60hz, which reduced almost all of the lag. Thanks for the suggestion!
post #1604 of 3823
Quick question on Zone 2 usage, it will not play Net stuff like Pandora or MP3 stored in Windows Media player? I tried the Net command but did not get any music from Pandora where I have a registered account.
post #1605 of 3823
So I bought the Onkyo wi-fi usb dongle, plugged it into the 509 and I ran the network setup. Instant connection. Did the update. No issues so far.
post #1606 of 3823
Quote:
Originally Posted by Milehigh View Post

Quick question on Zone 2 usage, it will not play Net stuff like Pandora or MP3 stored in Windows Media player? I tried the Net command but did not get any music from Pandora where I have a registered account.

You pretty much need to get it going on the main Zone - select server and channel. Once it starts playing, you can switch zones. Zone 2 only allows for basic playback control (skip, repeat, play, pause).
post #1607 of 3823
So once it's running on the main zone, I can switch to Zone 2 and select the same source and all is good? Also, once that is done, the main zone can be moved to a different input?

Quote:
Originally Posted by rworne View Post

You pretty much need to get it going on the main Zone - select server and channel. Once it starts playing, you can switch zones. Zone 2 only allows for basic playback control (skip, repeat, play, pause).
post #1608 of 3823
Basically yes. Although you will get sporatic info on what's playing, but it will work.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Milehigh View Post

So once it's running on the main zone, I can switch to Zone 2 and select the same source and all is good? Also, once that is done, the main zone can be moved to a different input?
post #1609 of 3823
Does anyone know if it's possible to use HDMI control without using HDMI passthrough? I'm interested in controlling the receiver's volume through the TV (as the TV is better located to receive the IR signals) but I have no interest in passthrough or automatic on/off switching (and the associated power draw). If I set HDMI control to "on", HDMI passthrough is automatically set to "auto" and grayed out.

Help!
post #1610 of 3823
Not sure if this is the right forum, but let's give it a shot... since installing my 609 with all HDMI inputs and the single out to the Panny plasma, and installing a new PVR Comcast cable box, I no longer get closed captioning. Would this be enabled on the cable box? The TV cc setting worked before on component cables, but not now with HDMI... thanks for a pointer in the right direction, I can be hard of hearing at times
post #1611 of 3823
I just switched from HT-R330 receiver, which I bought as part of HT-S580 HT system, to TX-NR509. I can use my old speakers that were part of the system, but one thing I didn't realize is that the subwoofer and Zone 2 outputs are not amplified (is that correct ?). As a result, I can't use my existing unpowered subwoofer, neither my two speakers that were connected to the R330 as "speaker B" (similar to Zone 2), without buying a pre-amp. This is a bit annoying to me that the older receiver gave me more options/functionality out of the box.

Can you guys give me budget options to both situations:
1) Inexpensive powered subwoofer recommendation
2) Inexpensive preamp

I didn't want to spend any more money but I have to now. Obviously I'm not an audiophile or anything, but just like to have good HT quality sound which I enjoyed for 5 years with my R330.
post #1612 of 3823
Quote:
Originally Posted by Milehigh View Post

Not sure if this is the right forum, but let's give it a shot... since installing my 609 with all HDMI inputs and the single out to the Panny plasma, and installing a new PVR Comcast cable box, I no longer get closed captioning. Would this be enabled on the cable box? The TV cc setting worked before on component cables, but not now with HDMI... thanks for a pointer in the right direction, I can be hard of hearing at times

Not sure if this helps but I also have a 609 and a Panny plasma. I have DirecTV and use the CC function through the DTV receiver. Haven't tried to use the Panny's CC since I'm pretty sure it would involve digging the Panny remote out of wherever it is. I would think you could access CC through your Comcast box though.
post #1613 of 3823
Quote:
Originally Posted by Plottster View Post

Not sure if this helps but I also have a 609 and a Panny plasma. I have DirecTV and use the CC function through the DTV receiver. Haven't tried to use the Panny's CC since I'm pretty sure it would involve digging the Panny remote out of wherever it is. I would think you could access CC through your Comcast box though.

I checked what my Harmony One gives me for IR codes, and CC for the cable box is not included... I'll dig into the manual for the PVR, but would suck if that is a manual operation and not doable with a remote.
post #1614 of 3823
Quote:
Originally Posted by Milehigh View Post

I checked what my Harmony One gives me for IR codes, and CC for the cable box is not included... I'll dig into the manual for the PVR, but would suck if that is a manual operation and not doable with a remote.

Maybe you could program it as an activity via the Panny instead of the Comcast box?
post #1615 of 3823
Anyone had an issue where the TX-NR609 won't play anything over the network?

It will connect, buffer, but than say "Cannot play!" with a /!\\ sign.

It will say this anywhere in the "Net" mode, be it:
DLNA (even though I can browse), vTuner (it buffers), last.fm (it shows what is about to be played, buffers)...

I had this happen after playing a few FLAC songs, and suddenly it didn't want to play anymore... Turned the Amp on/off, and still the same problem.

EDIT: Well, after resetting it came back, something must be getting corrupted or I inadvertently activated/deactivated something really strange!
(By the way, it's VCR+Power to reset)
post #1616 of 3823
Quote:
Originally Posted by qsoundrich View Post

Also wondering if I can listen to one source while watching a different source.

509 owner here with same question. Is it possible?
post #1617 of 3823
Just playing around the other day, I was listening to FM while the TV was still on... is that what you mean by using different sources?
post #1618 of 3823
Anybody got 'network control' to work with their ipod/iphone?
i downloaded to app 'onkyo remote2' but it cannot find the 609 when it searches

i have turned the feature on in the menu and thery are noth on the same network

thanks

EDIT:

got it working! was a home network problem

WOW what a great feature!!!
if you haven't tried it give it a go
post #1619 of 3823
Quote:
Originally Posted by Milehigh View Post

Not sure if this is the right forum, but let's give it a shot... since installing my 609 with all HDMI inputs and the single out to the Panny plasma, and installing a new PVR Comcast cable box, I no longer get closed captioning. Would this be enabled on the cable box? The TV cc setting worked before on component cables, but not now with HDMI... thanks for a pointer in the right direction, I can be hard of hearing at times

You definitely have to go into the settings on the Motorola PVR and enable CC. I also have a Comcast-supplied PVR, and had a friend coming over who can't hear. It drove me crazy until I figured it out. Accessing the Moto's set-up menu is a little tricky, if I remember right it involves a button press on the front of the box while it is powered off. I'm sure you can find instructions for your box on Comcast's website--I think that's how I got it.
post #1620 of 3823
Quote:
Originally Posted by ins0mniac View Post

. . . but one thing I didn't realize is that the subwoofer and Zone 2 outputs are not amplified (is that correct ?). . . .

Can you guys give me budget options to both situations:
1) Inexpensive powered subwoofer recommendation
2) Inexpensive preamp

I didn't want to spend any more money but I have to now. Obviously I'm not an audiophile or anything, but just like to have good HT quality sound which I enjoyed for 5 years with my R330.

Yes, you are correct about the subwoofer and Zone 2. Your Onkyo receiver/speaker package was quite unusual in powering the subwoofer. Is $80 for a sub cheap enough? http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...DE=WEBGOO0163C

I wouldn't call this Sony audiophile quality, but it would get the job done. The next model up the Sony line is $40 more. As for an inexpensive preamp, you need an AMPLIFIER, not a preamp. You should be able to find a nice used receiver in some shop where you live, or on E-bay, for less than 50 bucks, and it will do the job. I've got two old ones stashed in a closet, if I wasn't a hoarder . . .
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