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post #2431 of 3823
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Originally Posted by jawsont View Post

I got a 509 and I like it so far (incl. the android app to control it) - but what would be even sweeter would be if I could control the 509 via. my web browser.

I've spent a couple days searching google etc... but can't seem to find anywhere that lists a way to control your 509 via. regular ethernet via. a web-browser (e.g. Chrome). You've got to be able to since the android app allows you to do that, but I'll be damned if I can get the 509 to show anything other than the setup page when I browse to it on any port.

Am I missing something?

TIA.

The simple answer is that Onkyo did not design a web control interface.

The more complicated answer is that there are a few folks who have tackled this problem, developing applications to use ISCP (the protocol that the Onkyos utilize) to control their receivers.

Google this:
Onkyo (TX-NR 1007) Webinterface Programming

Start reading. Experiment. I don't have the link handy, but there is a blog out there from a German programmer (it's written in English), who developed a pretty nice little app that is extensible to use the newer ISCP commands.

Here's my post about it from a while back:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...7#post21172607
post #2432 of 3823
Does anyone know the VERY latest firmware version number for the TX-NR609?. This could be why I am having troubles getting it to load on to the reciever if I already have the latest version. Help
post #2433 of 3823
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Originally Posted by david0406 View Post

Does anyone know the VERY latest firmware version number for the TX-NR609?. This could be why I am having troubles getting it to load on to the reciever if I already have the latest version. Help

The latest version is: 1121-1300-0010-6104
post #2434 of 3823
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Originally Posted by SeeMoreDigital View Post

The latest version is: 1121-1300-0010-6104

OK. I have been told by onkyoproductsupport.com that the latest version is 1081-1000-0010-6104. You have given me a different number. I see you are in the UK. Is there different firmware versions for the different units in europe and asia. I am in North America. I dont know if that site is GENUINE onkyo support. The version I have stated is what is on my unit. I have been trying unsucssesfully to download the latest 12/20/2011 update from the onkyousa.com website via USB.
post #2435 of 3823
^^
If you review the file that you downloaded from the Onkyo USA website, you'll note it lists the same version number as SeeMoreDigital noted ... 1121-1300-0010-6104.
post #2436 of 3823
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

^^
If you review the file that you downloaded from the Onkyo USA website, you'll note it lists the same version number as SeeMoreDigital noted ... 1121-1300-0010-6104.

My computer wont let me actually open the file to see that number you speak of. I do take your word for it smoothie. I think I could be getting the blow off from that support site.
post #2437 of 3823
^^
Here ya go (see attachment)...

And if you still cannot read it, from the file ...

To check if your firmware is the latest version, go in to Setup -> Hardware Setup -> Firmware Update and check the 16 digit number. (1121-1300-0010-6104)

If any of the numbers differ from the latest version available, please update your unit.

The 12/20/2011 update addresses the following:
1. Improves noise during playback of DTS-HD Master Audio with particular Blu-ray disc
2. Corrects operation of speaker distance calculation in Audyssey 2EQ

 

Firmware_Update_for_the_TX609_HT360_12_20_11.pdf 104.953125k . file
post #2438 of 3823
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

^^
Here ya go (see attachment)...

And if you still cannot read it, from the file ...

To check if your firmware is the latest version, go in to Setup -> Hardware Setup -> Firmware Update and check the 16 digit number. (1121-1300-0010-6104)

If any of the numbers differ from the latest version available, please update your unit.

The 12/20/2011 update addresses the following:
1. Improves noise during playback of DTS-HD Master Audio with particular Blu-ray disc
2. Corrects operation of speaker distance calculation in Audyssey 2EQ

That's all they wrote? They've been messing seriously with the network protocol. If they are doing what they did with the Spotify functionality with the other streaming sources, 2012 will be an interesting year to see what they come out with on the app frontier.

In a nutshell, they are starting to fix all the issues that make their protocol a hassle to use for net functions. The bad news is they are trying to keep the info to themselves keeping me busy reverse-engineering the new/changed messages.
post #2439 of 3823
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

^^
Here ya go (see attachment)...

And if you still cannot read it, from the file ...

To check if your firmware is the latest version, go in to Setup -> Hardware Setup -> Firmware Update and check the 16 digit number. (1121-1300-0010-6104)

If any of the numbers differ from the latest version available, please update your unit.

The 12/20/2011 update addresses the following:
1. Improves noise during playback of DTS-HD Master Audio with particular Blu-ray disc
2. Corrects operation of speaker distance calculation in Audyssey 2EQ

Smoothie,
I do NOT have that version. I do not know what I am doing wrong. I have tried multiple times and I continue to get the 0-14 error code which is i guess the usb is not beinng recognized or it is the wrong file.

Here is what I do-
1-download zipped file to usb. It shows up on usb
2-Right click on zipped file and extract file. Unzipped file shows up on usb.
3-Right click on unzipped file and copy it. Copy shows up on usb
4 Right click on zipped and unzipped file and delete
5-I am now left with copy of unzipped file on usb
6-Insert usb into usb port on 609
7-press usb source input
8- OSD shows USB storage
9-Press setup on AVR and go to hardware
10-Go to firmware update and click on via usb
11- click enter and I get DL ERROR 0-14( not found) scrolls across display on unit
WHat am I doing wrong??
post #2440 of 3823
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Originally Posted by david0406 View Post

Here is what I do-
1-download zipped file to usb. It shows up on usb
2-Right click on zipped file and extract file. Unzipped file shows up on usb.
3-Right click on unzipped file and copy it. Copy shows up on usb
4 Right click on zipped and unzipped file and delete

Something doesn't seem quite right about this. You should have more than just one file unzipped. When you unzip it, there should be 3 files, one ending with .of1, one endign with .of2, and one ending with .of3. In fact, these should be the only 3 files existing on your USB stick for the Dec 20 firmware:
ONKAVR0008_00EAEAEA00EA.of1
ONKAVR0008_00EAEAEA00EA.of2
ONKAVR0008_00EAEAEA00EA.of3

And their names should be exactly that. If you're making additional copies, the names could get changed.

Did you download the file from this site:
http://www.intl.onkyo.com/support/fi.../tx-nr609.html

There is also a link there "How To Install" which includes other steps like turning of Zone 2, stop all playback , etc - I'm assuming you're following this guide?
post #2441 of 3823
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Originally Posted by BobearQSI View Post

Something doesn't seem quite right about this. You should have more than just one file unzipped. When you unzip it, there should be 3 files, one ending with .of1, one endign with .of2, and one ending with .of3. In fact, these should be the only 3 files existing on your USB stick for the Dec 20 firmware:
ONKAVR0008_00EAEAEA00EA.of1
ONKAVR0008_00EAEAEA00EA.of2
ONKAVR0008_00EAEAEA00EA.of3

And their names should be exactly that. If you're making additional copies, the names could get changed.

Did you download the file from this site:
http://www.intl.onkyo.com/support/fi.../tx-nr609.html

There is also a link there "How To Install" which includes other steps like turning of Zone 2, stop all playback , etc - I'm assuming you're following this guide?

Thanks. I finally got it right with the help of my 14 year old son. I now have the current firmware version on my 609.
post #2442 of 3823
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Originally Posted by david0406 View Post

Thanks. I finally got it right with the help of my 14 year old son. I now have the current firmware version on my 609.

Teenagers for the win! Tech support to the rescue.
post #2443 of 3823
jdsmoothie,

Is there any particular reason why you're not upgrading via the web?
post #2444 of 3823
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Originally Posted by SeeMoreDigital View Post

jdsmoothie,

Is there any particular reason why you're not upgrading via the web?

I think you probably meant that question for me. I just dont have the AVR hardwired to an ethernet connection. My cable service is Fios. If i just buy a router and split my cable to the set top box and one to the router and then ethernet to the 609 that might work. Would that work?? All my other devices are just connected wirelessly to the one router I have in my office. I have always thought I needed to connect the AVR to the one router I have which would be a pain in the butt. Can anyone tell me if that would work or not?
post #2445 of 3823
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Originally Posted by david0406 View Post

If i just buy a router and split my cable to the set top box and one to the router and then ethernet to the 609 that might work. Would that work??

All my other devices are just connected wirelessly to the one router I have in my office.

First of all, you would need a switch, not a router. You already have a router, you just need additional ethernet ports, which a switch will provide. This may be inconvenient if your router is in a different room and you don't want to run a 50ft cable.

You have an alternative option of buying the Onkyo wireless adapter, which will connect to your wifi router. No wires required.
post #2446 of 3823
I have the TX-NR609 and I have been noticing that when I have a full black screen such as when movie ending credits are running that the screen has a red tint to it. I suspected that it is the receiver because I did not see it before I had the receiver. I put the receiver on HDMI pass through and now the tinting is gone. Anyone else notice this red tinting on your TV.
post #2447 of 3823
Tried a Pioneer VSX-921-K for about a week, and have gone through nothing but pain with it: lip sync issues, weak audio, strange audio and video issues...and I just boxed it today for return to the store and ordered a 609 about an hour and a half ago.

My previous reciever was an Onkyo 705 which I loved dearly, but I had to upgrade to a 3D reciever so I started to shop different options and decided on the Pioneer. BIG MISTAKE!

I should be recieving my new 609 in a couple of days and I am sure that I will get lots of help from you guys in the Onkyo family.
post #2448 of 3823
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Originally Posted by King_David View Post

My previous reciever was an Onkyo 705 which I loved dearly, but I had to upgrade to a 3D reciever so I started to shop different options and decided on the Pioneer. BIG MISTAKE!

Note that although you will gain Audyssey Dyn EQ and Dyn Volume on the 609, you will downgrade from Audyssey MultEQ XT to the lowest version of Audyssey (2EQ) on the 609 which will not be able to EQ the sub as did XT on your 705. You may want to consider the 709 instead which uses the same version of XT.
post #2449 of 3823
You're not alone on the red tint thing. Put the receiver in direct or custom mode to avoid this problem. There are only about two other threads about this, one of which is mine. No one else seems to notice it. Oh well. The through mode is supposed to pass the video signal through unchanged but it's red too. I just leave mine in direct because everything else in the system already does a good job of upconverting and displaying the picture, you can only do so much processing before it starts degrading. But I agree Onkyo needs to fix this tint issue, guess we gotta wait til more people complain about it.
post #2450 of 3823
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Originally Posted by david0406 View Post

I think you probably meant that question for me. I just dont have the AVR hardwired to an ethernet connection. My cable service is Fios. If i just buy a router and split my cable to the set top box and one to the router and then ethernet to the 609 that might work. Would that work?? All my other devices are just connected wirelessly to the one router I have in my office. I have always thought I needed to connect the AVR to the one router I have which would be a pain in the butt. Can anyone tell me if that would work or not?

I went with this option for my TV, Amp & Xbox 360, it works well

http://www.amazon.com/RJ45-ABCD-Way-...8787299&sr=8-1

amp-pandora
tv-netflix
xbox-gaming
post #2451 of 3823
Considering a purchase of the 509 or 609 but have a question maybe someone could help with. I really don't need the zone 2 power or added inputs so I could probably be happy with the 509 if I could prove one thing.

Is the gui the same on the 509 and 609?

For the highest WAF, I'm looking for something that doesn't look like commodore 64 but I haven't found any good videos showing the difference in gui if any.

Thanks
post #2452 of 3823
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Originally Posted by lastplace View Post

I went with this option for my TV, Amp & Xbox 360, it works well

http://www.amazon.com/RJ45-ABCD-Way-...8787299&sr=8-1

amp-pandora
tv-netflix
xbox-gaming

Was just trying to see if I could do that without having to run a cable from router in office( bedroom) to AVR in living room. I have decided that I really dont need the AVR hardwired as I stream music from MOG through my ROKU I have hooked up through the AVR in the living room. Dont think I would really use the apps that are available except to update firmware over the net. And updating it was fairly easy if you just copy the files correctly on to a usb (duh @me lol). I also came to the conclusion that I will just move router into living room whenever I update my dinosaur office computer to one that has a wirless card ( yes its that old). Thats the only reason I have the router in that room. Thanks!
post #2453 of 3823
Just wondered if firmware updates can be loaded using that uwf-1 dongle and does anyone have any experience using one? Amazon's reviews are sorta mixed .
post #2454 of 3823
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Originally Posted by david0406 View Post

Just wondered if firmware updates can be loaded using that uwf-1 dongle and does anyone have any experience using one? Amazon's reviews are sorta mixed .

I have done several updates to my 509 via the usb dongle with absolutely no problems, but I have a good strong reliable wi fi signal. If your signal fluctuates or has dropouts from interference with other devices in your home or your neighbors have strong wi fi signals nearby, then a wired connection, even a temporary one, is the way to go. But as I said, I have had no problems using the Onkyo usb dongle; it has worked flawlessly for me. I also use it to stream 24/96 kbps flac files from my NAS and it has no problems passing those high bit rate signals along without dropouts. YMMV.
post #2455 of 3823
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Originally Posted by bharless View Post

You're not alone on the red tint thing. Put the receiver in direct or custom mode to avoid this problem. There are only about two other threads about this, one of which is mine. No one else seems to notice it. Oh well. The through mode is supposed to pass the video signal through unchanged but it's red too. I just leave mine in direct because everything else in the system already does a good job of upconverting and displaying the picture, you can only do so much processing before it starts degrading. But I agree Onkyo needs to fix this tint issue, guess we gotta wait til more people complain about it.

I'm glad it is not just me! I cannot believe anyone would not see it? This is a bummer! I'm going to push to return this receiver.
post #2456 of 3823
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Originally Posted by lastplace View Post

I went with this option for my TV, Amp & Xbox 360, it works well

http://www.amazon.com/RJ45-ABCD-Way-...8787299&sr=8-1

amp-pandora
tv-netflix
xbox-gaming

That's not what I meant by switch. That's got a physical "switch" on it. I was thinking more along the lines of one of these (obviously, it doesn't have to be exactly this one, but you get the idea):

http://www.amazon.com/Linksys-Cisco-...8808886&sr=1-9
post #2457 of 3823
So, I got a 609 to go with my Samsung UN60D6000.

I have Yamaha 5.1 with these specs (speakers are not the best but they will have to do for now):

2-way acoustic suspension magnetically shielded satellite speakers Drivers: 2-1/2" cone woofer and 1/2" dome tweeter Input Power (Max/Nominal): 100 W/30W Sensitivity: 82 dB/2 83 V/1 m

Any speaker setup suggestions for me in the Onkyo with these speakers? Just let Audissey do the work for me?

My friends with the 609 tell me to use Neo Cinema: THX cinema. I used to use direct on my 605. What do you use?

Any other suggestions?
post #2458 of 3823
^^
Run Audyssey and reset any speakers the Onkyo sets to Full Band to 80hz crossover. Any crossvers set above 80hz should be left alone. Note that these are VERY inefficient speakers and the Onkyo will likely set them in the +3db to +5db range (whereas most others would have them set in the negative range), so not to worry.
post #2459 of 3823
I spent a lot of time researching receivers and it seems that they all have issues but the Onkyo had fewer than the rest. I'd keep it unless you really need the video processing. I don't know why they even put this in there, they should've spent more time testing the firmware and other functions. If your other equipment is fairly new it should do upgrading or upconverting, I know mine does i.e. cinema modes etc. I know I found another issue, when I turn off the receiver I get vid and audio for about a minute then it goes off, changing the auto off to on didn't make any difference, but I found that if I turn on zone 2 everything works correctly. How this glitch got past their testers is beyond me. I used to test software and hardware and have always found things that others had missed so I guess I'm super critical but as long as there are workarounds I can live with some faults. I got this thing for sounds and I'm very happy with that if it last a long time.

Bert
post #2460 of 3823
I did several searches and did not find what I'm looking for. I've started using the Onkyo Remote Android app to stream music from my Galaxy S II Skyrocket to my 609. I have a 32 gig microSD in it and a Powerskin cover for plenty of battery life. Does anyone have the playlists set up in that app and if so please explain to this olpharte how to do it.
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