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post #3001 of 3823
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Originally Posted by ReesVictoria View Post

Yes, I am sure the movies are only in 5.1. When I press display, the receiver tells me that the input is coming in as 5.1 but the output is 7.1. I'm using a Sony BDP-S590 for my Blu-Ray Player and I don't see any setting on there that could be doing it. I called Onkyo Support and the guy tried to tell me that he thinks this is normal but is going to look into it and call back. Never had this problem with the 606

Go into Speaker Setup and set Back Surround to None.
post #3002 of 3823
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Originally Posted by mfrey0118 View Post

Do you have audio output set to bitstream on your blu ray player?

Yes, I have it set to bitstream. Onkyo Support called me back and told me this is a normal feature that started with the TX-NR509 and up and can't be disabled, but I'm guessing they lied as none of you guys are experiencing it.
post #3003 of 3823
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Originally Posted by kevinwoodward View Post

Did you assign zone 2 to the amp like I mentioned last week?

Not exactly sure how to do that. Are you saying to connect my back speakers to zone 2?

Edit: Just figured out what you were talking about and gave it a try. It worked but I popped in a Blu-Ray that does have a DTS HD-MA 7.1 track and found out my back speakers were now turned off. Had to turn Zone 2 off to get them working again. I'm not trying to disable the back speakers completely. I just want my movies to play in DTS HD-MA 5.1 and 7.1 when they are supposed to and not have to turn off a setting or turn on a setting each time. If having my receiver output 7.1 on a 5.1 track is not going to effect the audio quality in any way, I'll just leave it. That is what I'm really concerned out
post #3004 of 3823
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Originally Posted by Tesla1856 View Post

Go into Speaker Setup and set Back Surround to None.

Will I have to go back in and turn them back on every time I watch a movie that is supposed to have 7.1?
post #3005 of 3823
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Originally Posted by ReesVictoria View Post

Will I have to go back in and turn them back on every time I watch a movie that is supposed to have 7.1?

No, I wouldn't.

I was just trying to say ... be sure your speakers are setup properly.
post #3006 of 3823
Hey guys I have really loud hissing/sizzle on my center channel.. I tried plugging the center channel speaker wire into a different speaker and then the different speaker had the hissing. I even tried a brand new speaker wire and I still had the hissing/crackle. I tried re-running audyssey since one guy said that fixed it, it had no effect. I also tried disabling dynamic eq and thx loudness plus, didn't work. I guess my next step is to do a soft reset? If that doesn't work I guess I have to call onkyo for repair? What would you guys do?
edit: I have the 609
post #3007 of 3823
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Originally Posted by uncola View Post

Hey guys I have really loud hissing/sizzle on my center channel.. I tried plugging the center channel speaker wire into a different speaker and then the different speaker had the hissing. I even tried a brand new speaker wire and I still had the hissing/crackle. I tried re-running audyssey since one guy said that fixed it, it had no effect. I also tried disabling dynamic eq and thx loudness plus, didn't work. I guess my next step is to do a soft reset? If that doesn't work I guess I have to call onkyo for repair? What would you guys do?
edit: I have the 609

If you are sure it's not:
Speaker, wire, or source-content
... the only thing left is the 609 itself, right? If a Reset doesn't fix it, that just leaves bad hardware.
post #3008 of 3823
I really like using slacker and xm via the net function on the 609. However, it cuts out all the time. I have a very reliable high speed internet connection and get aboout 50mbps down and 5mbps up so that is not the issue. I had thought xm was having financial problems so maybe their servers werent updated but slacker cuts out too. Anyone else having these problems? Its disappointing turning it on and then half hour later it just stops.
post #3009 of 3823
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Originally Posted by Lotus00 View Post

I really like using slacker and xm via the net function on the 609. However, it cuts out all the time. I have a very reliable high speed internet connection and get aboout 50mbps down and 5mbps up so that is not the issue. I had thought xm was having financial problems so maybe their servers werent updated but slacker cuts out too. Anyone else having these problems? Its disappointing turning it on and then half hour later it just stops.

Do you have Auto Standby turned on? If you leave the audio on for a long time without touching the remote once that may be the cause.
post #3010 of 3823
I have Pandora cut out every once and awhile on mine too. It comes back, but it is noticeable and I have a 30/5 connection.
post #3011 of 3823
i can get the 609 at a very decent price. Is it worth getting?
post #3012 of 3823
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Originally Posted by RAVEN56706 View Post

i can get the 609 at a very decent price. Is it worth getting?

Absolutely worth it in my opinion.
post #3013 of 3823
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Originally Posted by raistline View Post

Do you have Auto Standby turned on? If you leave the audio on for a long time without touching the remote once that may be the cause.

I use Pandora and I have auto-Standby enabled. It only powers off if I leave it paused for too long. Otherwise it will continuously play.

Side note, I have not had any problems streaming pandora, no "cutting out" problems. I have it connected cat5 to the router, not WiFi. I once had "error initializing" once, but cycling the power fixed that.
post #3014 of 3823
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Originally Posted by RAVEN56706 View Post

i can get the 609 at a very decent price. Is it worth getting?

Besides having HDMI CEC issues with my refurbished 609 (I now have a new one that has been fine so far), I highly recommend this unit for the price point. Watched "Tower Heist" last night on BD and the DTS HD Master audio was awesome.
post #3015 of 3823
^ whats HDMI CEC issues?
post #3016 of 3823
^^
Some HDMI devices have HDMI handshake issues (audio, video, or both) when connected to HDMI repeaters (ie AVRs). This is most common with cable/sat boxes (with all brands of AVRs) which then requires bypassing the HDMI connection to the AVR and connecting directly to the TV, with optical from the cable/sat box to the AVR for surround audio.
post #3017 of 3823
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Originally Posted by RAVEN56706 View Post

^ whats HDMI CEC issues?

Stands for Consumer Electronic Control. It's just the industry's standardized name for things like VieraLink (Panasonic), RHiD(Onkyo), etc...
post #3018 of 3823
How are all of you setting the video through the amp...through/direct or something like 1080p? I am trying to figure out if there's a solution for my HTPC using Windows Media Center. I currently have it on Through, but I have various issues when turning on the receiver and the TV where it reconnects and sometimes the handshake doesn't seem to work right because WMC complains about Copy Protection and other crap. It usually requires closing out WMC and reopening.
post #3019 of 3823
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Originally Posted by xcrunner529 View Post

How are all of you setting the video through the amp...through/direct or something like 1080p? I am trying to figure out if there's a solution for my HTPC using Windows Media Center. I currently have it on Through, but I have various issues when turning on the receiver and the TV where it reconnects and sometimes the handshake doesn't seem to work right because WMC complains about Copy Protection and other crap. It usually requires closing out WMC and reopening.

I have a similar issue where my PC wont connect sometimes to show the desk on the TV. I have to restart my PC to fix it.

I have settings set to through on HDMI Out and through on the picture setting as well.
post #3020 of 3823
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Originally Posted by xcrunner529 View Post

I am trying to figure out if there's a solution for my HTPC using Windows Media Center. I currently have it on Through, but I have various issues when turning on the receiver and the TV where it reconnects and sometimes the handshake doesn't seem to work right because WMC complains about Copy Protection and other crap. It usually requires closing out WMC and reopening.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1386439

I really like my Gefen HDMI Detective Plus. All HDMI negotiation and HTPC resolution/EDID problems are gone now.

Also, I think Through/Upscale (etc.) settings only apply to analog inputs (Component, etc.) ... not HDMI.

Semi-Related: Don't use VGA input unless you have to. HDMI or DVI (with converter) works better.
post #3021 of 3823
It turns out the static from my center channel is something that onkyo issued a recall for.
Check your serial numbers guys
http://www.onkyousa.com/001a_modelreturn_entertype.cfm
onkyo is sending me a box and prepaid shipping label to have my unit repaired.
post #3022 of 3823
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Originally Posted by david0406 View Post

Well Roku states that one of my devices is probably NOT "fully" HDMI compliant and generally this issue is not the fault of the Roku2. My devices are TX-NR609 and Samsung PN42C450. I have tried every input on the AVR. Changed the inputs on the TV. Tried every resolution including "through" and "direct" . Surely my 609 is "fully" hdmi compliant as for my TV it is a 2009 or 2010 model. The Roku2 works fine except when I engage DD+ on Netflix and then start switching back and forth between inputs. I tried the Cat2 cable I received yesterday to no avail. Now if I stream netflix in 2.0 stereo this issue does NOT occur. Handshakes complete with no problem. Now my TV is ONLY a 720p tv. Whether or not that is any issue or not I dont know. All resolution settings are at 720p. They also state that they encounter many problems with the Onkyo receivers. Bottom line I asked if they thought my Roku was defective. They stated it is generally the other devices. Any thoughts?? I have no handshake problems with either of my other devices . Set top box and Bluray.
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Well I have a new WD live streaming device arriving tomorrow that is Netflix DD+ capable. We will see if the Roku2, ( which Roku support states "it's usually other devices) or my Onkyo NR-609 ( which Onkyo support states " Roku is having problems with ALL manufacturers") causing my HDMI switching issues. I will follow up.
post #3023 of 3823
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Originally Posted by ReesVictoria View Post

I'm guessing they lied as none of you guys are experiencing it.

I wouldn't say I'm not experiencing it. I have a 7.1 setup so if my incoming signal is DTS MASTER HD 5.1 and the unit converts it to DTS 7.1, I won't change anything because that's what I want.
post #3024 of 3823
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Originally Posted by uncola View Post

It turns out the static from my center channel is something that onkyo issued a recall for.
Check your serial numbers guys
http://www.onkyousa.com/001a_modelreturn_entertype.cfm
onkyo is sending me a box and prepaid shipping label to have my unit repaired.

Ah, some positive customer service news from Onkyo...
post #3025 of 3823
Coming up on two weeks now and this new 609 has performed practically perfectly. Only issue I had was video dropped out one day for a few minutes and turning it off for a minute or two then turning it back on solved the issue and it has not repeated.

I have deep color turned on in my blu ray player, etc, and no handshaking issues, but more importantly for me NO HDMI CONNECTIVITY ISSUES.

So far so good and I'm back to diggin' my receiver!

Although before I had immediately used the Audessey calibration, this time I took speaker measurements manually and did the levels myself. I have bass and treble to +2db, sub is 0. I have some tweaks in the 5-band EQ also, boosting 25hz in the sub and midrange boosts of +1db for the other speakers. I think it sounds really clean. Bass stays sublte yet strong, tight, not overpowering or booming (using an Onkyo 10" self powered downfiring sub). Mids and highs sound good, and are strong and clear. With intellivolume at +5db, I can listen comfortably at reasonable volume in the 30-40 range, and I kick it up to high 50's, low 60's when having friends over for movie night.

The Marvelle Qdeo chip is growing on me all the time (my first unit with one). I really appreciate how upconverting my 1080i Comcast xfinity singal to 1080p on my 60" Plasma noticeably reduces motion judder. My panel is calibrated, so I keep the video processing stuff to Through and I only allow upconversion.

If this continues to play out this way, I'm going to have to come down squarely on the anti-refurbished side of the debate, as all my experiences with A4L resulted in defective units.
post #3026 of 3823
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Originally Posted by mfrey0118 View Post

. . . I have deep color turned on in my blu ray player . . .

My understanding is that there are as yet (still?) no deep color sources, and no displays capable of reproducing it. So what is the purpose of having this setting on? This is a question, not a criticism--want to be sure I'm not uninformed.

If it is true that having it on serves no purpose, it is my recollection that several issues in this thread have been identified which are corrected by turning deep color off. So that would be something for you to consider.
post #3027 of 3823
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Originally Posted by Goes to 11 View Post

My understanding is that there are as yet (still?) no deep color sources, and no displays capable of reproducing it. So what is the purpose of having this setting on? This is a question, not a criticism--want to be sure I'm not uninformed.

If it is true that having it on serves no purpose, it is my recollection that several issues in this thread have been identified which are corrected by turning deep color off. So that would be something for you to consider.

A common problem with 2011 Onkyos was a handshake issue with BD players that had Deep Color set to on while the Onkyo also had it set to on. Setting it to off on either the Onkyo or the BD player usually took care of the problem. I was simply stating my new 609 has yet to exhibit this issue.
post #3028 of 3823
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Originally Posted by mfrey0118 View Post

Although before I had immediately used the Audessey calibration, this time I took speaker measurements manually and did the levels myself. I have bass and treble to +2db, sub is 0. I have some tweaks in the 5-band EQ also, boosting 25hz in the sub and midrange boosts of +1db for the other speakers. I think it sounds really clean. Bass stays sublte yet strong, tight, not overpowering or booming (using an Onkyo 10" self powered downfiring sub). Mids and highs sound good, and are strong and clear. With intellivolume at +5db, I can listen comfortably at reasonable volume in the 30-40 range, and I kick it up to high 50's, low 60's when having friends over for movie night.

A couple things to keep in mind .... (1) all settings are ignored prior to running Audyssey, (2) raising Intellivolume to +5db for "all sources" is no different then simply raising the master volume +5db (ie. the setting is designed to offset input source volume differences "between" different sources).
post #3029 of 3823
Hi all…I read this entire thread prior to purchasing the 609 about a month ago...great info! I have a Time Warner HD DVR and Sony Blu Ray running through the 609 and one HDMI out to the Sony 60” LED. So far so good except one thing…

My wife likes using the TV speakers so I have HDMI pass through on. I use the 609 when watching shows and the auto switching / RHID control between the tv speakers and 609’s 5.1 setup works fine.

I noticed something odd the last few days with the HDMI pass through. If the receiver is off while watching TV, I see the hdmi icon on the 609 flicker off. Then I see a quick flash of the volume level and the hdmi icon comes back on. This continues in different intervals…10-25 seconds or so. Strange.

I needed to get a new cable box yesterday for other reasons…I went from a Time Warner Samsung to a Scientific Atlanta…same exact thing with the receiver flickering while off.

Anyone else ever see this? I am on the latest firmware. I can buy a new hdmi cable to see if it fixes it but figured I would post to see if someone else saw it. I haven’t noticed any issues with the TV picture or sound being impacted but the 609 is definitely acting flakey.

Thanks
Steve
post #3030 of 3823
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

A couple things to keep in mind .... (1) all settings are ignored prior to running Audyssey, (2) raising Intellivolume to +5db for "all sources" is no different then simply raising the master volume +5db (ie. the setting is designed to offset input source volume differences "between" different sources).

Not sure what you mean by "all settings". The EQ, Crossovers, LFE, Speaker Distances and Speaker Level controls all work just fine without running Audessey, as per the manual. The only thing I can't control is any sound delay/room corrections/sub alterations without Audessey.
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