Onkyo TX-NR609, TX-NR509, TX-SR309 Thread - Page 102

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This is true. My point is that those settings are not taken into account when running Audyssey.

Quick question....what does the straight decode selection actually do & is there anything I need to set on the payback devices Xbox/PS3/DVD player ect?

Ah, yes sir, you are correct, any settings I put in will be wiped out once Audessey is run.

do you have surround and surround back?
i thing you are confusing the 2?

you have a 5.1 system which will not contain "back" speakers...

Straight Decode will take the audio signal from the device and pass through to the speakers "as is". Say, for instance, your blu-ray player is sending a DTS-MA signal from the player. Straight Decode will output the DTS-MA audio without any filters, ect.., unless you have a filter manually set. I have mine set to straight decode for DTS-MA and TrueHD. I believe the device will have to be set to bitstream and not PCM.

OK thanks much. In my mind I had it backwards.

I have a Roku XS and had no problems with it connected via HDMI to my Onkyo 509; I currently have it connected to my Denon 4310 and Panasonic plasma, again with no problems. Perhaps the Roku2 is somehow different?

Yeh. I have 2 other rokus also besides my Roku2XD. Both first gen that i have no issues with but neither of them are dd+ capable and that is where my handshake issue is occuring. Stream in 2.0 and no issues occur.

WOW! I was not expecting what I got when I got this new device. I don't want to sit here and beat down the Roku2 but the difference in video quality is stunning in my opinion. The colors all seem correct and there is no black level issues. I never expected to see this difference. This is making my Netflix subscription that much more enjoyable. I have been a fan of Roku since I hopped on to this technology but I must say that I would have to recommend my new device hands down over the Roku2 for video quality. Now that being said if you are looking for quantity of content then Roku is king. This device does not have near the content that Roku has but makes up for it in video quality. I also now have You tube, Vudu, and Spotify. Apps Roku does not have. And guess what else. I HAVE NO HANDSHAKE ISSUES. ALL HANDSHAKE ISSUES COMPLETE WHEN SWITCHING INPUTS ON MY REPEATER ( AVR) . This device does have a power button so I am assuming that it does actually turn itself on and off. Maybe this is what is causing the handshake issues on the Roku since the HDMI signal is always present. Well 2 weeks of frustration has finally ended and I am ECSTATIC. Sorry Roku but you have been dethroned in my house. Correct colors and no black level issues. Just WOW. I really never expected it.

Watched Mission Impossible: Ghost Protocol last night in Dolby TrueHD 7.1. Awesome. Great audio. Surround effects were impressive. Audio was crisp and clear with nice deep lows. Turned the volume up to the THX setting (84, I think) when the movie soundtrack was playing during credits at the end and it really rocked.
Man, what a difference a good audio track makes! I believe that was my first TrueHD 7.1 native BD and the difference is marked. Made my 609 sing...

On bluray. Transformers Dark of the Moon also has a kick azz soundtrack. Btw. Dont worry I have had my morning coffee. ;-)

A friend has just had a TX-NR609 installed in a specially converted 2nd bedroom
around 4.5m x 3.5m...and he has a 6.1 speaker setup.
He didnt do any adjustments..but just began playing Movies
via DVD and Blu-ray.
His volume listening level for these is 70.

Is this a normal level? (as the volume only goes to 99..I thought it seemed excessive)
I have a 606 and listen to movies at around 40-45(similar size room)

In the manual it seems to talk about a THX Reference level for the sound that is
output when manually calibrating the speaker levels.
That reference level is 0db..or 82 in absolute level terms.

So does that mean if you listen to a movie below that level ie 82 it wont sound correct?

and does this mean when you adjust the output level of
each speaker channel manually...
it will be in relationship to the volume being at 82(ie the test tone level)??

Finally if trying to use the Audyssey set-up and associated microphone
is it still the case as the manual shows that the first measuring spot is
the middle position??

..or should it be 1,2,3(ie left to right or right to left)

and if one doesnt own a tripod..to sit the Microphone on
..is it okay to use a tall box to sit it on?

Yes. Although he should run Audyssey to set the reference level.


It won't sound the way the mixer intended (as you would hear in a movie theater); however, for the vast majority reference level is TOO LOUD and generally listen at -20db to -10db for movie content (-30db to -20db for TV). However, using Audyssey Dyn EQ will compensate for listening below reference level by boosting the sub and surround audio which is why it should be set to ON for all sources, all the time.


It will be in relation to the current Master Volume setting. Also note the test tone level is 75db.


Yes, the #1 mic position should ALWAYS be the middle or "main listening position" as that is where the distance and level settings are obtained. Doesn't matter whether #2 is to the left or right of #1 as long as #3 is on the opposite side of #2.


Absolutely not ... get a camera tripod or mic boom stand ... easily found on Amazon. That said, I'm guessing the vast majority of buyers of a 609 use whatever is handy, not realizing that the audio fidelity actually suffers as a result.

^^^Thanks

I guess I should at least say a little more about my experiences with Accessories4Less, since a lot of people seem to use them.

Customer Service: It wasn't too bad. The only reason I say it wasn't great was because their salesmen also handle any issues you have and they immediately act like you're an idiot that doesn't know how to read a manual. If you disagree with them, they get snippy.

Other than that, they were very prompt. When sending a replacement powered sub a couple of months back for my Onkyo HT-S5400, it came in like 2 days. They paid shipping for the old one back to them.

When returning the 609, they told me the refund would not include shipping, but then it did. Refund was prompt, only a few days after they received the unit back from me.

So while my experiences have soured me a bit on factory-certified refurbished merchandise, if you do go that route, A4L is not a bad outfit to deal with.

Did the 609 ever get an airplay update?

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No. No Onkyo AVR currently features Airplay.

Correct. Yes.


Not sure what you're asking? Set Dyn EQ to ON and then set the master volume at whatever level is comfortable for you.

No Airplay like feature either?

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An even better option then on board Airplay, which is limited to audio only, is using either an AppleTV (which can also do video, the newer ATV3 able to pass 1080p) or an Airport Express. There are also 3rd party DLNA streaming options as well as well as converting the audio to a FM frequency and playing it using the AVR's FM TUNER.

Just got my 609 2 days ago and so far so good except for the sound quality off Zone 2. I have 4 speakers (Onkyo satellite's) in each corner of a Pool Rm and they sound very flat (even with the Treble set to +10). These are connected to the high level (speaker wire) outputs of the receiver.
At this point, I realize I cannot get good sound out of Zone 2, so my question is what do I need to do to fix this?
-Do I need to get an external Amp and connect it to the low level (Zone 2) output?
-Are there any other options?

Any advice would be appriciated!

BTW, I also tried a pair of Polk speakers and they didn't sound any better.

The key is currently. I have their latest 2012 specs and AirPlay is coming to the TX-NR515 and 616 as the TX-NR515AE and TX-NR616AE. I don't know how they plan to implement it, but it is there as part of the network functionality and protocol set. Also I found out that DAB+ is in the works (also added to the tuner protocol). Since the features up to the 818 have been announced, I would assume that HD Radio and DAB+ will make their appearance on one or more of the 1010, 3010, or 5010 models.


Onkyo also last year had an AirPlay universal port accessory go through the FCC.

I have a 609 with RIHD enabled. When I turn on my receiver and then TV, it always switches to the tv input on the receiver after about 5-10 sec. Happens even if I choose another active input before this. How do I make this stop as it is annoying?

I have ARC and lip sync disabled.

If you find out, let me know too. I don't mind once, but it insists.

It's caused by the HDMI-CEC connection between the TV and the 609. Either disable RIHD or HDMI-CEC on the TV.

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Yea, I ended up doing that because I couldn't find another solution. I wanted RIHD because I like turning on my receiver and have my tv turn on too, but I'm getting a harmony remote so now I won't need RIHD

Does it do this also when you turn the TV on first and allow it to "talk" to the 609? I have not had this issue. For instance, if the last thing I watched was xfinity cable, then, when I turn my TV on the next morning, the 609 clicks on with the TV and is at the cable input, just like it was before turning it off.

Now I just checked again to make sure. I turned on the 609 first and made sure it was on the cable input. Then, I turned on the TV and the 609 did not switch over.

It only jumps to the "TV" input if I do something with the TV to make it switch, like activating Netflix, DLNA player, or SD card input on the TV.
If the 609 is on "Cable" and I turn on the BD player, it will switch automatically to that input.

This leads me to believe it may be a communication issue with your devices and not anything inherently wrong with your 609.

Now I do have an issue with the R590 receiver (from the HT-S5400 package) in the bedroom where if I run a macro on my Harmony to go to standard cable running through my Philips DVR via component hookup, the Onkyo will switch back to TV and I'll have to reset it to the proper input manually. But that may not have anything to do with your setup, it may be that it doesn't communicate properly when a non-HDMI source is used (and of course, the R590 lacks upconversion)...

It does not jump to TV input if I turn on my TV first and wait about 5 sec before turning on my receiver.

You mentioned you have RHiD enabled. Are you saying when you turn the TV on the 609 does not turn on automatically?